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Scott Ball / Creator of Twitch Poker / President of End Game Talent Apr 08, 2020

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Scott Ball, the creator of Twitch Poker and president of End Game Talent, shares his journey with epilepsy and how it has impacted his life. He shares the process of getting poker on Twitch and how it has revolutionized the poker industry as a whole. Tune in to learn how Scott’s business has been impacted by coronavirus, what he does to improve his own game, and why streaming is tough – and find out why he believes poker sites need Twitch to succeed.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 26:30 – Introducing Scott Ball, his athletic career, how epilepsy has impacted his life, how he started playing poker, Twitch, and how he helped get poker on Twitch.
26:30 – 43:40 - How poker is changing over time, why being a streamer is tough, the early days of poker on Twitch, and how Twitch has revolutionized the poker industry.
43:30 – 01:08:30 - On becoming a poker player, the role of streamers who help grow poker, the deal with bid wars on streaming platforms, some Twitch financials and sponsorships.
01:08:30 – 01:25:30 - On his hopes for poker, a hint about cool things going on in Twitch, his biggest online win, and how business has been impacted by coronavirus.
01:25:30 – 01:34:00 - Scott’s favorite casinos, the origin of his nickname “Rumcake”, on poker sites needing to be on Twitch to succeed, and the people in poker Scott admires.
01:34:00 – 01:49:30 - On what inspires Scott, marketing, what he thinks about squads, his favorite thing learned from Twitch, and how he improves his own game.

3 Key Points

Twitch is all about hanging out with the streamer and other viewers.
Content creators and influencers can generate super-fans through Twitch.
Experiment to decide.

Contact/Resources

Mathias “CasinoDaddy” Joelsson / Business Man / Streamer / Rec Poker Player Apr 02, 2020

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Mathias “CasinoDaddy” Joelsson, a businessman, streamer, and recreational poker player, shares how he and his two brothers began their streaming empire. He talks about what it’s like doing business with family, how the industry has changed, and gets into the latest on Swedish gaming legislation. Tune in to get the scoop on how he supports the game and his community – and learn his two top tips for becoming a successful poker player.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 12:00 – Introducing Mathias, how he and his brothers started and continue their streaming empire, how he manages bonuses and affiliates, his viewership, and some big wins.
12:00 – 26:30 – How he got into poker, what it’s like doing business and playing with family, the latest on Sweden gaming legislation, and how the industry has changed.
26:30 – 45:00 – On playing live events, his dream to play in the U.S., his future business plans, his favorite casino, what he thought of the show Tiger King.
45:00 – 01:00:00 – On respecting the game, having limits, caring about the community, how COVID-19 has impacted his businesses, and why they started their IT company.
01:00:00 – 01:12:00 – On how much poker he’d like to play, how to avoid addiction, two tips for becoming a successful poker player, and poker vs. slots.
01:12:00 – 01:25:00 – His favorite part about business, the truth about “free money”, why some content is filtered only by wins, and the difference between predatory and honest streaming.

3 Key Points

Don’t think that you can’t improve because you always can.
Play the tournaments that your bankroll can afford.
There’s no such thing as “free money”.

Contact/Resources

Partner - Party Poker
Website - Jeff Gross Poker
CasinoDaddy - Twitch

Mike Matusow / Professional Poker Player / LIVE MTT Earnings $9,750,072 Mar 31, 2020

Show notes

Mike “The Mouth” Matusow, a poker pro with $9,750,072 in live MTT earnings, shares the crazy twists and turns of his poker journey. He talks about his hiatus, money-loaning philosophy, and debilitating injury – and speaks up about his thoughts on re-entries and re-buys. Tune in to hear Mike’s experience with drugs, how he ended up in jail, and what he thinks about the coronavirus situation – and learn how he tries to stay positive through it all.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 31:00 – Introducing Mike, what he’s been up to, how his podcast came to be, how much poker he’s playing nowadays, his long-time poker journey, and how he learned he was good.
31:00 – 01:02:30 – What Mike thinks about re-entries and re-buys, some back-in-the-day stories, why he took a hiatus, his injury, and his money-loaning philosophy.
01:02:30 – 01:32:00 – Mike’s relationship with Phil Helmuth, how he ended up with Full Tilt, what happened, some historical moments in his career, and why he doesn’t play high rollers.
01:32:00 – 02:00:00 – On his communications with Mike Postle, who he wants to “destroy”, his thoughts on politics, his experience with drugs, and his book Check Raising the Devil.
02:00:00 – 02:30:00 – On being cheated, what he’s been through, being in jail, crazy comps, staying positive, and some more politics.
02:30:00 – 03:13:00 – Coronavirus, the new normal, quarantine, who we need to care about what he thinks about Twitch, and the recipe for disaster in California.

3 Key Points

Never forget where you come from.
Don’t make debts public.
You can’t teach talent.

Contact/Resources

Partner - Party Poker
Website - Jeff Gross Poker
Mike’s Twitter
Mike’s Hendon Mob
Mike’s YouTube Channel – The Mouthpiece
Mike’s Podcast – The Mouthpiece

Mustapha Kanit / Pro Poker Player / Winamax Ambassador / LIVE MTT Earnings $11,566,695 Mar 22, 2020

Show notes

Mustapha Kanit, an Italian poker pro with $11,566,695 in live earnings and Winamax ambassador, shares how he’s handling the coronavirus in the U.K. He dives into his outlook on life and what he’s learned through poker – the good and bad. Tune in to learn about Mustapha’s commitment to excellence, why he treats poker like a business, and how he stays consistent – and hear his advice to maximize your time to leverage every opportunity that comes your way.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 23:00 – Introducing Mustapha, what the coronavirus situation is like in the U.K. and Europe, his poker journey, and his friendship with Dario.
23:00 – 47:00 – His outlook on life, lessons from poker, breaking laptops, and studying – and why he sees professional poker players as entrepreneurs with all the same stressors.
47:00 – 54:00 - On being consistent, delivering excellence, improving his game, and how he plans to maintain his health and stay young.
54:00 – 01:04:00 - On how people become the best, why he invests and is always learning, and his biggest achievements live and online.
01:04:00 – 01:26:00 - His worst poker memory, why the reason you play poker matters, his thoughts on live reads, and more on his journey and wins.
01:26:00 – 01:42:00 - His poker and non-poker goals, the story of his moustache, and what he’s recommends people do with their time to leverage opportunities.
01:42:00 – 02:04:30 – More on the coronavirus, healthcare differences between the U.S. and Europe, cultural differences, his love for lasagna, and information about Winamax.

3 Key Points

Become the best by constantly improving yourself.
Be open-minded.
Treat poker like a business.

Contact/Resources

Partner - Party Poker
Website - Jeff Gross Poker
Mustapha’s Instagram
Winamax - Website

Bill Perkins Discussing the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Mar 22, 2020

Show notes

Bill Perkins knows the power of exponentials. That’s why he’s on the show to spread awareness about the coronavirus, how cases are exponentially growing, and why it’s critical that we take it seriously. He shares what he’s personally doing to change his behavior at this time and what he predicts will happen depending on how we respond as a nation. Tune in to learn about Bill’s philosophy behind his book “Die with Zero” – and hear why Bill’s so passionate about maximizing every stage of life to the fullest.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 15:00 – Bill talks about coronavirus, exponentials, action that needs to be taken, and why we desperately need to take it more seriously and change our behavior.
15:00 – 29:30 - The issue with testing, details about being an asymptomatic carrier of the virus, the respirator problem, how’s its impacted events, and his plans for his kid’s school.
29:30 – 42:00 - Bill’s number predictions, how he’s integrating new behaviors into his lifestyle, and some information about his new book “Die with Zero”.
42:00 – 55:30 - On taking advantage of the seasons of life, living your life off autopilot, and being able to look back and appreciate a life well-spent.
55:30 – 01:06:30 - On inheritances, understanding your peak, the scary secondary and tertiary affects, and the rollouts of the National Guard.
01:06:30 – 01:15:00 - On cancelling his trip to New York, the cancellation of big events, and a reiteration of how we must change our behavior to see positive results.

3 Key Points

Wash your hands.
Don’t live your life on autopilot.
Coronavirus isn’t just the flu.

Contact/Resources

Partner - Party Poker
Website - Jeff Gross Poker
Bill’s Instagram
Bill’s Hendon Mob

Eric Afriat / Businessman / 3x WPT Champion / Total Live MTT Earnings $3,419,157 Mar 17, 2020

Show notes

Eric Afriat, a businessman and 3x WPT champ with $3,802,696 in live earnings, shares how he’s managed to dominate the tables despite having a busy life off the felt. He shares his philosophy on winning and attributes his success to the mental toughness he’s been able to cultivate over the years. Tune in to find out Eric’s thoughts on playing defensively, positioning, and implementing a strategy that isn’t based on luck – and learn the powerful mindset that takes him to final tables.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 08:00 – Introducing Eric, his entrepreneurial journey, how he got into poker, and some of his big tournament wins.
08:00 – 20:00 - On winning and improving, how he’s at a disadvantage in poker, training to be mentally tough, positioning, strategy and his opinion on the best way to play.
20:00 – 30:00 - On playing defense, having confidence, playing “position poker”, and understanding that poker is strategy, not luck.
30:00 – 42:00 - How it felt to win, the importance of a powerful and supportive wife, how his attitude has helped him win, and when he chooses not to take the risk.
42:00 – 51:00 – On playing with better players, improving his game, playing golf, frustrations at the table, and leaving it at the table.
51:00 – On playing poker as a kid, poker being taboo in his life, taking time off, healing, and his favorite hand.

3 Key Points

Have a powerful and supportive partner.
Poker is strategy.
Have a winning mindset.

Contact/Resources

Partner - Party Poker
Website - Jeff Gross Poker
Eric’s Hendon Mob
Eric’s Twitter s

Danny Tang / Pro Poker Player / Natural 8 Ambassador / Live MTT Earnings $8,400,000 Mar 06, 2020

Show notes

Danny Tang, a poker pro and Natural 8 ambassador with $8,400,000 in MTT earnings, gives some tips for mastering the short-deck game. He shares study/play ratio recommendations for beginners and opens up about how he builds mental strength and manages bad beats. Tune in to find out how Danny came up in the ranks and killed it in his most recent tournaments – and hear what the best players do that no one else does.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 21:00 – Introducing Danny, his background, how he got into poker, his game preferences, study/play ratio recommendation for beginners, and a short-deck trick.
21:00 – 39:30 - On his travels, Coronavirus, having people that push him, and how he prepares for the mental side of the game.
39:00 – 51:00 - Being a Natural 8 ambassador, the best way to get to higher stakes, and how he leveled-up quickly and won big in his most recent tournaments.
51:00 – 01:03:00 - Talking about other great players, a little hint about a possible new stop, his micro-stakes downswing and why he starts complaining just on bad beats.
01:03:00 – 01:15:30 - What top pros do that others don’t, how his rankings and their importance to him have shifted, and what he did to come up in the ranks that he doesn’t do now.
01:15:30 – 01:33:00 - On being hooked on short-deck, his routine before tournaments, favorite place to visit, and how he handles bad beats in tournaments.
01:33:00 – 01:39:30 - Getting out there, giving and taking, doing things with heart and purpose, keeping community, and reminiscing on the guys that have supported him from the beginning.

3 Key Points

Always keep learning.
It’s not always about skill; opportunity also plays a big role in moving up to higher stakes games.
Bad beats are normal – how you handle them is what makes the difference.

Contact/Resources

Partner - Party Poker
Website - Jeff Gross Poker
Daniel’s Hendon Mob

Matt Savage / Executive WPT Tour director Mar 04, 2020

Show notes

Matt Savage, the American Poker Tournament Director and Executive Tour Director of the World Poker Tour, reveals what goes on behind-the-scenes at the Poker Tournament Director’s Association. He shares his opinion on table-talk, collusion, re-entries, and disclosing your hand, and explains the role of cash games in tournaments. Tune in to find out how the Coronavirus may impact future poker events and hear Matt’s crazy stories about what he’s seen at the table and the rulings he has made.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 22:00 – Introducing Matt, his price-pool explanation, what happens when guarantees are missed, and more about what happened behind-the-scenes in a bizarre situation.
22:00 – 32:00 - Matt’s thoughts on disclosing the contents of your hand, collusion, table-talk, live poker, how the rules around re-entries were structured, and the role of cash games.
32:00 – 47:00 - What they do at the Poker Tournament Director’s Association (TDA), big-blind ante, how Coronavirus impacted their event, and the risk for future events.
47:00 – 01:05:00 - On the WPT partnering with partypoker, the status of the Bay 101 and Shooting Star events, and how Matt finds the time for family and other hobbies.
01:05:00 – 01:22:00 - His poker Hall of Fame nominations, thoughts on other players who are crushing it, favorite tournaments, and appreciation for poker.
01:22:00 – 01:46:00 - The wildest thing Matt has seen, his craziest ruling, a story of when Robert Duvall put him in his place, and his opinion on the latest poker industry news.

3 Key Points

Be fearless in the pursuit of your goals.
Be patient with changes and improvements in the industry.
Wild and crazy things always happen in poker.

Contact/Resources

Partner - Party Poker
Website - Jeff Gross Poker
Matt’s Twitter
Matt’s Hendon Mob

Rafael Moraes / Brazilian Poker Legend / 4Bet Partner / Live MTT Earnings $1,627,528 Feb 27, 2020

Show notes

Rafael Moraes, a Brazilian poker legend and 4Bet Partner with $1,627,528 of live MTT earnings, shares why he’s been playing less and what he’s been doing instead. He talks about the range of buy-ins in his stable, which spots tend to be the most profitable, and how he handles downswings. Tune in to learn what Rafael does to prepare for wins – and listen to the advice he gives new players wanting to make poker a career.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 21:00 – Introducing Rafael, his origin story, poker journey, and how his career has shifted over the years into a role of teaching.
21:00 – 40:00 - On being the most profitable player in Brazil, his top online and live results, and his experience playing tournaments.
40:00 – 55:30 - On Brazilian poker fans, his favorite stops, the responsibility of professionals in poker, and why poker isn’t for everyone.
55:30 – 01:17:30 - How his game has advanced, other sports teams that he supports, his sponsorship, and what he thinks about bitcoin.
01:17:30 – 01:36:30 - The range of buy-ins in his stable, which spots tends to be the most profitable, what he does to handle downswings, and how he prepares to play.
01:36:30 – 01:54:00 - Advice from Rafael for new poker players, what he would say to warn them, what he would like to see change in the poker world, and information about 4Bet.

3 Key Points

Poker isn’t for everyone.
Have a variety of hobbies and activities.
Have a routine before you play that prepares your mindset.

Contact/Resources

Partner - Party Poker
Website - Jeff Gross Poker
Rafael’s Instagram
Rafael’s Hendon Mob

Joe Hachem / Professional Poker Player / Total Live MTT Earnings $12,672,387 Feb 27, 2020

Show notes

Joe Hachem, a professional poker player with $12,672,387 in total live MTT earnings, shares openly about the tough phase he had early in his poker career. He dives into his thoughts on the different poker sites that are out there, reminisces on how things have changed over the years, and reveals some of the investments he has made. Tune in to learn Joe’s biggest tip for live players – and hear what he means when he talks about “chip ownership”.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 – 21:00 – Joe’s journey and his biggest losses.
21:00 – 37:00 - Joe’s big win, his family, and what he thinks about different poker companies.
37:00 – 52:30 - His WPT win, investments, and advice on chip ownership.
52:30 – 01:10:00 - On his upcoming travels, games, crazy hands, and tips for live game players.
01:10:00 – 01:18:00 - On his other hobbies, alternative dream job, and poker sites.
01:18:00 – 01:39:00 - What ruins games for him, books he has read, and a cool story.

3 Key Points

Don’t look at your earnings as if they are “play money”!
Not every sport has to be bet on to enjoy watching it.
Keep your head up through tough times.

Contact/Resources

Partner - Party Poker
Website - Jeff Gross Poker
Joe’s Twitter

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