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    The Fifth Column

    Your weekly rhetorical assault on the on the news cycle, the people who make it, and occasionally ourselves. Kmele Foster (Freethink), Michael Moynihan (Vice), and Matt Welch (Reason) talk and laugh and drink their way to at least quasi-sanity in a world gone mad, often with the aid of clean and articulate guests. Weekly Members Only subscription edition often comes with listener mail and professional-quality (if inappropriate) singing. Analysis. Commentary. Sedition.

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    The Revolutionaries (w/ Charles C. Mann) - #1 Jan 01, 2026
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    Introducing The Revolutionaries, a new Fifth Column miniseries for the Semiquincentennial

    Exactly 250 years ago yesterday, George Washington’s Continental Army attempted to drive the redcoats out of Canada, thereby protecting the rebels’ northern flank, by launching a two-pronged assault on Quebec.

    It was a disaster.

    There was snow and ice everywhere (who knew that Canada might be cold on New Year’s Eve?), Major General Richard Montgomery was shot and killed, second in command Benedict Arnold (yeah, that one) was injured, 30-50 more Americans died, around 400 were taken prisoner; just a total fiasco. The Hudson River, valley, and related north-south waterworks all the way up to Montreal would, instead of staying firmly in Yankee control, prove to be a heavily contested corridor until literally the last day of the Revolutionary War.

    All of which to say is, EVERY day is a Semiquincentennial day in the year of our Lord 2026, and I am absolutely here for learning and sharing weird & wonderful things about our 250th.

    To that end, I’m delighted to introduce a new miniseries-within-the-pod, called The Revolutionaries, in which I’ll be yakking with historians, podcasters, and other oddballs to tell us some crazy, misunderstood, and lesser-known stories about our awesome if not exactly crystal-pure revolutionary past. The idea is not only to learn new (and fun!) history, but also pick away a bit at the historiography – why some important characters and stories get forgotten; and how even the hagiographic celebrations of various Founders flatten the far more captivating and complicating detail.

    What better historian to kick us off than none other than Charles C. Mann, author of the groundbreaking books 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus, and 1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus Created? Mann walks us through a fascinating revolutionary precursor: The Pueblo Revolt of 1680, in which early Americans, through coordinated violence, shook off the misrule of European imperialists.

    Special shout-out to Arch Stanton for the fab animated intro, and Fleetwood Hack auteur Eli Lake for the theme song. Enjoy!

    * Woulda been awkward if Charles had played for the Redskins

    * How science changes history

    * Man vs. the Amazon

    * Massive urbanism under the canopy

    * The myth of pristine wilderness

    * “we’re like beavers”

    * Sometimes called “the first American Revolution”

    * “huge impact in the history of the United States as a whole, because it’s the reason we have California”

    * “Pueblo” = catch-all; they spoke different languages

    * “Jeffersonian, independent villages…very democratic”

    * “to become a member of the council, they sit you in a chair in the center of the village, and everybody makes fun of you and pelts you with garbage”

    * Chaco Canyon abandonment = No Kings

    * “very leery of centralized authority, so much so that the Spaniards find them hard to deal with, because they don’t have like a governor or a king, and they’re constantly complaining.”

    * Spaniards didn’t even call themselves Spaniards, BTW

    * Silver and gold, because small cargo-holds

    * “Spain becomes fantastically wealthy. They spend it all on wars and Dutch bankers”

    * Whoops, no silver and gold in New Mexico

    * Juan de Oñate = Juan de jerk

    * “The Franciscans are obliged to convert people by enslaving them to build churches so that they can be converted in the churches….And weirdly, the Pueblo don’t like it.”

    * Spaniards: much bigger New World bastards than the English

    * “they got off on the wrong foot”? Too soon, Charles

    * Don’t mess with Po’pay

    * The knotted-rope code

    * A simultaneous revolt against 32 missions!

    * 2 days, 400 dead Spaniards

    * How Po’pay was NOT like Washington

    * 12 years a non-Spaniard

    * Autonomy even after the Reconquista

    * Thank the Pueblo that Spain never found gold and silver in Cali & Nevada

    * Cool history happens when tribes produce archaeologists

    * The West is the best

    * American ethnic cleansing

    * The Wizard and the Prophet: Two Remarkable Scientists and Their Dueling Visions to Shape Tomorrow’s World, by Charles C. Mann

    * Revolution Song: A Story of American Freedom, by Russell Shorto

    * Cadillac Desert: The American West and its Disappearing Water, by Marc Reisner

    * Rivers of Empire: Water, Aridity, and the Growth of the American West, by Donald Worster

    Intro sequence by the one and only Arch Stanton!

    Outro music (audio podcast only) by the great Eli Lake!


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe

    Year Is Over (If You Want It) - #538 Dec 30, 2025
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    -Eggnog: What’s Actually in This Shit?

    -Massachusetts Pidgin

    -Kmele’s Kwanzaa Plans

    -“What We Got Wrong” (Nothing)

    -Eddington vs. Sinners

    -Spending Hundreds of Dollars to Get Drunk at Zootopia 2

    -Pearl Harbor: Live at Budokan

    -Moynihan Stroke Watch

    -The Ryan Lizza Self-Emasculating Saga… Continued

    -Mediaite’s Biggest Losers List

    -Batya! Recap (Now in Animation!)

    -Was Moynihan Wrong About the Epstein Files?

    -Far-Right Post-Pinochet Pragmatist

    -Why Aren’t We Drinking Whiskey?

    -Donald Takes It to 11

    -The 2020 Madness Hangover

    -Halle Berry vs. Gavin Newsom (Real, or Kmele Fanfiction?)

    -Nixon Recaps All in the Family

    -Thomas Massie, Thinking Man’s MTG

    -Trump’s Most Surprising Second-Term Win

    -Putin Does Coercive Dictatorship Really Well

    -Happy New Year, You Degenerates

    Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifthdom? This episode premieres over on our YouTube channel at 12PM EST.

    The Fifth Column (A Podcast) is a reader-viewer supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.

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    Sweet Baby Jesus! Are We Really Arguing About Sodomy with John Fugelsang? - Members Only #292 Dec 23, 2025
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    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com

    Twas the episode before Christmas, and all through the show, The hosts were debating how the political winds blow. Matt Welch was present, the whole crew was there, With Moynihan and Kmele, live on the air.

    The guest was John Fugelsang, with a name meaning “Birdsong,” Who’d been banished to Cali to write for so long. With a book about “Hate” and the “Flock-Fleecing Fr…


    Black Irish, Ice Queens, and Body Snatchers (w/ Tina Nguyen) - #537 Dec 18, 2025
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    We’re joined by Tina Nguyen, Senior Reporter at The Verge, covering “Big Tech vs. Big Government death matches.”

    ⁃ All I want for Christmas is Wendy Williams-branded booze

    ⁃ Someone is a bit cracked out…

    ⁃ Big tech versus big government

    ⁃ (David) Sacks of cash

    ⁃ Susie goes wilding

    ⁃ The swamp is a viper pit

    ⁃ Hate the media. Need the media

    ⁃ A non-denial denial of a non-denial denial

    ⁃ MAGA’s son and heir

    ⁃ He has a thrill running up his leg

    ⁃ The Bezos bust

    ⁃ Trump crashes through the normie barrier

    ⁃ Seth Rogan and the Orwell abomination

    ⁃ The body snatchers are back!

    ⁃ That said….this will be the greatest documentary since Hoop Dreams

    Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifthdom? This episode premieres over on our YouTube channel at 12PM EST.

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    Not Even Matt Drudge Can Make Today Better - On Rob Reiner, Bondi Beach, and DJT (Members Only #291) Dec 16, 2025
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    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com

    * RIP Rob Reiner

    * Sorry about the horrific murders but…Go Bills!?

    * It was a great American who created Spinal Tap

    * Reaction from conservative pundits vs. conservative politicians

    * Trump’s derangement syndrome

    * And he doubles down…

    * The Islamist attack in Australia

    * Assimilation and integration: Europe vs. America

    * We’re just better at it

    * They’re going to speak English and…


    Nobody Likes a Gossip Cop (w/ Dan Abrams) - #536 Dec 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Dan Abrams is the CEO and Founder of Abrams Media Chief Legal Analyst for ABC News, host of On Patrol: Live on Reelz, host of SiriusXM radio’s “The Dan Abrams Show,” host and executive producer of “Court Cam” on A&E Network.

    He is also the author of numerous New York Times bestselling books about forgotten trials in history and is also the founder of Mediaite.

    * In defense of legacy media. Sort of.

    * Hating journalists while feeding journalists

    * From “terror TV” to ❤️Qatar❤️

    * Just Jared

    * The King of Korruption

    * The legacy of lawfare

    * Alvin Bragg: Trump’s best friend

    * Prosecuting Hitler, Chavez, and Trump

    * The Inspectors General Massacre

    * Kash’s lady jacket

    * Post-Kavanaugh radicalization

    * Rogan optimism

    * Did Dan help destroy American civility??

    * Is Alan Keyes making sense?

    * From gossip cops to actual cops...

    * Does Dan produce “cop-aganda”??

    * No, but Dan likes cops

    Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifthdom? This episode premieres over on our YouTube channel at 10am EST.

    The Fifth Column (A Podcast) is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.

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    Members Only #291 - Leader of the Asshole Nation (w/ Kevin O'Leary) Dec 10, 2025
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    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com

    Michael Moynihan sits down with entrepreneur, actor, and bon vivant Kevin O’Leary to talk about politics, money, and being an asshole.

    * The economics of...hockey? (He’s Canadian. It makes sense)

    * Mr Wonderful vs. Idiot King

    * Pierre misses the open net

    * Swiss watches and Swiss gold

    * Sell the damn chips to China!

    * The importance of the Hill staffer

    * Kevin just made thi…


    UNLOCKED Members Only #290 - AI George Washington, LSD Margaritas, and Tara Reid Dec 09, 2025
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    It’s been a bit since it was just Michael, Kmele, and Matt at the table so we’ve decided to unlock this Members Only episode and invite everyone in. For (literally) hundreds more Members Only episodes, become a paying subscriber.

    •Heliocentric anime

    •50 Cent, documentarian

    •Boycott Black Murder

    •Glenn Beck is doing it for the kids

    •John Stossel walks into a bodega

    •And now, a few words from the father of our country

    •American Revolution hot takes

    •That New York Times border crisis story

    •Kamala Harris was not the border czar

    •NIMBY

    •When Kmele gets homeless

    •Rosemont Illinois will not forget Tara Reid

    •LSD margaritas

    •The Pentagon press corps

    •Exploding boats

    •Geographically constrained neoconservatism

    •Matthew Yglesias is right

    •Previewing Moynihan’s 1-on-1 with Kevin O’Leary

    •Holding out hope

    Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifthdom? This episode premieres over on our YouTube channel at 10am EST.

    This episode is unlocked, but paying subscribers get them ALL.

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    #535 - America's Top Breshnevist (w Brace Belden) Dec 04, 2025
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    We’re joined by Brace Belden, co-host of the TrueAnon podcast.

    •They don’t make heroin anymore

    •The Taco Bell connection

    •King of the libertarians

    •Kmele almost dies

    •You say Somali, I say Somalian, let’s call the whole thing off

    •The people cut out of the Minnesota Somali fraud story

    •Does Ben Shapiro think we’re white?

    •A Maoist small businessman

    •Certain liberties

    •Curtis Yarvin discovers YouTube

    •Yarvin = Slavoj Žižek of the right?

    •Libertarian Escape (the Piña Colada Song)

    •The cathedral

    •Brace, Citarella, and the new intellectual left

    •Mamdani “is fully a Democrat”

    •Nationalize Mr. Fruit

    •Body count

    •War is a force that gives us meaning

    •Call of Duty: Median Soldier

    •Brace is on the DHS shit list

    •Kmele spent more time at Occupy than Brace did

    •In China, the trains run on time

    •The DSA clappers

    •Don’t let’s start on Venezuela

    •Wistful for Colin Powell

    •Where are the drugs!?

    •The Grifters

    •The neoneocons

    •Thumbing the scale

    •Jeffrey Epstein, quintessential striver

    •The Chomsky connection

    Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifthdom? This episode premieres over on our YouTube channel at 10am EST.

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    UNLOCKED: Atheist in a Foxhole, w/ the Great Sebastian Junger Dec 03, 2025
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    Periodically around these parts the audience demand for unpaywalling certain subscribers-only episodes becomes too clamorous to ignore. So it was with Members Only #286, our gripping conversation with celebrated author Sebastian Junger about his harrowing new book, In My Time of Dying.

    “Please consider making this a non-members only episode,” wrote beloved subscriber James G. “Ditto,” seconded Daniel Cavelli. “I wanna send this to many people.” Similar beseechings from random_academic, Jake O’Finkelstein, [Dr.] Jeff Singer, Lara Merkel Ross, and Oren, who added: “I have a friend who barely survived a massive heart attack last month. And I can think of many others who will be inspired by this incredible conversation.”

    To our longtime paying customers: We hear you! Please share the episode widely, either as a one-off or a come-on!

    To our many brand new paying subscribers, brought here by a generous gift, welcome to this weird & wonderful community, and please enjoy full run of the Comments and Chat. And to those seeing/hearing us for the first time, or just flying in the very back of the plane, here is the type of content that can come with a paid subscription. As our dear old D.C. pal Maura Flynn put it, “You make my support increasingly worthwhile and I encourage everyone who can to contribute on the highest possible level. Great stuff, rock on!”

    You know what to do.

    •You can always start drinking again

    •Enough to make ⅔ of these grown men cry

    •Sebastian’s (most recent) near-death experience

    •Danger in, insight out

    •Momento Mori

    •There’s nothing so dangerous as a wounded Apache

    •Don’t have an aortic rupture in Truro in July

    •ICU humor

    •Hi dad

    •An existential digression

    •Better than the one with Will Farrel

    •Ideological Duolingo

    •Hot tip from an immigration officer

    •Old-time antisemitism

    •Bestselling author sleeps with chainsaw

    •Sarajevo & the Spanish Civil War

    •Men’s Journal and the good old days of war reporting

    •The folly of Afghanistan and nation-building on the cheap

    •Some things are sacred

    •Investigating near death experiences

    •Don’t test Santa Claus

    •Etymology of a curse

    •Atheists, physicists, and consciousness

    •God of the gaps

    •Yes, we are literally talking about quantum physics

    •The science of myth

    •The reason for the need the idea of heaven

    •Restrepo

    •Why we all need a tribe

    •Things were better when they were bad

    •If you’re not sufficiently terrified, you’re not getting it.

    •A tribute to dangerous jobs

    •Making meaning in a meaningless universe

    •A Bostonian goodbye

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