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    Eng Founder’s Takeover: Navigating the new fundraising environment, idea-mazing and overcoming pattern-matching bias w/ Lizzie Matusov #126 Apr 18, 2023
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    This is a special episode from our new show “Engineering Founders” - Lizzie Matusov, CEO & Co-Founder @ Quotient, shares her unique founder journey – from Harvard’s dual-degree grad program & Innovation Lab to founding Quotient! She also reveals strategies for fundraising, including utilizing your relationship pipeline, incorporating story arcs into your pitch, overcoming pattern-matching bias, and how fundraising today is different than it used to be. We also cover Quotient’s major pivots, tips for not becoming too attached to your first idea & making space for new ideas, defining idea-mazing & its impact on your product, and developing clarity as a founder. For more episodes of Engineering Founders, subscribe here: https://engineering-founders.simplecast.com/

    ABOUT LIZZIE MATUSOV

    Lizzie Matusov (@lizziematusov) is the co-founder and CEO of Quotient - a toolkit to supercharge engineering teams. Today, their first tool is an onboarding platform that leverages behavioral research best practices to ramp up engineers more effectively. Quotient’s mission is to democratize access to the best engineering cultures.

    Previously, Lizzie built software to improve access to medical-grade genetic testing at Invitae. She was also a software engineering consultant at Red Hat, where she built software applications for companies across various industries, including fintech and biotech. She holds a bachelor of science from UCLA, and an MBA and Masters of Engineering Sciences from Harvard.

    "Let's say in a four-month period, you check in with investors or founders that you're working with two or three times. Now what they have is not just one call to base their opinion on, but an entire story arc that they can use to say, 'All right, in August they were doing this and by October they already did this, and then by December they were here. I'm now seeing sort of a preview of what I'm backing.' I think that that really helps founders sort of help investors make decisions, right? You are de-risking for them, you are sharing more of the milestones as you're doing them.”
    - Lizzie Matusov

    ABOUT QUOTIENT

    Quotient is a toolkit to supercharge engineering teams. Their mission is to democratize access to the best engineering cultures.

    Today, their first tool is an onboarding platform that leverages behavioral research best practices to ramp up engineers more effectively. With Quotient you can build and deliver a high-quality, research-backed onboarding experience, and get data-driven insights into how your team changes and grows together.
    Check out Quotient and join the waitlist HERE - https://www.getquotient.com/waitlist

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    Check Out Engineering Founders!

    We cover the stories, pivotal moments and critical insights from former engineering leaders turned founders - that helped them take the earliest steps to launch!

    You can find it wherever you get your podcasts - Spotify / Apple / Google / Web

    SHOW NOTES:

    • The backstory behind Quotient (3:01)
    • Why the atomic unit is the team, not the individual & how that impacts Quotient (4:03)
    • Lizzie’s leadership journey before Quotient (5:25)
    • Why Lizzie chose Harvard’s dual-degree grad program as part of her founder’s journey (8:43)
    • How Harvard’s program helped Lizzie accelerate founding Quotient (12:43)
    • The community aspect of entrepreneurship & Harvard’s Innovation Lab (15:48)
    • Lizzie’s favorite grad school hacks (17:58)
    • Frameworks behind Quotient’s key pivots (20:12)
    • How Quotient pivoted to better support companies & the onboarding process (23:02)
    • Tips for making space for new ideas (25:59)
    • Defining idea-mazing & how it impacts your product / solution (28:13)
    • Where Quotient is in terms of fundraising (31:02)
    • How assumptions & expectations around fundraising have changed (32:43)
    • Collect data points that show your ability to execute, lead, & grow (34:06)
    • Strategies to help overcome pattern matching bias (36:09)
    • How Lizzie utilized story arcs while fundraising for Quotient (38:32)
    • Why clarity as a founder is vital & frameworks for developing clarity (41:05)
    • The renaming process & unveiling the new name “Quotient” (44:52)
    • Rapid fire questions (46:38)

    LINKS AND RESOURCES

    • Shantaram - Gregory David Roberts’ novel following an escaped convict with a false passport who flees maximum security prison in Australia for the teeming streets of Bombay, where he can disappear. Accompanied by his guide and faithful friend, the two enter the city’s hidden society of beggars and gangsters, prostitutes and holy men, soldiers and actors, and Indians and exiles from other countries, who seek in this remarkable place what they cannot find elsewhere.
    • The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine - Michael Lewis documents the real story of the crash that began in bizarre feeder markets where the sun doesn't shine and the SEC doesn't dare, or bother, to tread: the bond and real estate derivative markets where geeks invent impenetrable securities to profit from the misery of lower- and middle-class Americans who can't pay their debts. The smart people who understood what was or might be happening were paralyzed by hope and fear; in any case, they weren't talking.
    • The Long Way To A Small, Angry Planet - Becky Chambers’ novel following a motley crew on an exciting journey through space—and one adventurous young explorer who discovers the meaning of family in the far reaches of the universe.

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

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    Maximizing R&D spend, engineering efficiency & the journey from eng to operations w/ Madalina Tanasie #125 Apr 11, 2023
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    Madalina Tanasie joins us to share her unique leadership journey as she transitioned from eng to operations, then back to her current technical role as CTO @ Collibra. We also cover strategies to improve engineering efficiency within your organization, factors to consider when scaling eng teams, maximizing your ROI when it comes to R&D, dispelling concerns when implementing culture changes, frameworks for scaling up, and more.

    ABOUT MADALINA TANASIE

    Madalina Tanasie is the Chief Technology Officer and an Executive Committee member at Collibra, where she oversees and leads the Software Engineering, Architecture, Production Engineering, Test Engineering, and Security activities.

    Madalina has over 18 years of software engineering leadership experience and her expertise is in service-oriented architecture, cloud-native distributed systems, and product operations with a focus on engineering practices, scale, and operational excellence. Prior to joining Collibra in 2020, she was the Engineering VP for Medidata Solutions’ Unified Platform Organization, an organization she built from the ground up and led since 2010.

    She has been recognized as one of the Top 25 Software CTOs of 2023 by The Software Report.

    Additionally, she is a proud sponsor of Collibra’s Women in Technology, and an active member of CHIEF, a network focused on connecting and supporting women executive leaders. Ms. Tanasie earned her BS and Master’s in Computer Science at Polytechnics University of Bucharest.

    "The reality is that they need process and structure to eliminate the noise and to create a space for solving really, really deep challenging problems. They actually want the process for the part that is mundane and boring and disruptive. So as they discuss about what's making their life harder than it needs to be, we are coming back to a lack of process, a lack of uniformity, a lack of clear communication channels between themselves or between other departments.”

    - Madalina Tanasie

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    SHOW NOTES:

    • Madalina’s unexpected career journey, beginning @ Medidata (2:13)
    • How Madalina transitioned from engineering into operations @ Collibra (4:57)
    • Qualities that make Collibra’s culture stand out (5:46)
    • What opportunities stood out when Madalina was evaluating the Collibra role (7:35)
    • Four considerations to keep in mind when scaling eng teams (9:07)
    • The Spotify model vs. Agile model & what worked for Collibra (15:19)
    • Challenges to adopting new management models (19:18)
    • Strategies for navigating people’s expectations (20:58)
    • Insights gained from Madalina’s “listening tour” (23:20)
    • Frameworks for addressing concerns around culture while scaling (25:04)
    • Madalina’s perspectives on improving engineering efficiency (26:51)
    • The right balance between cost of ownership and R&D (30:07)
    • Collibra’s new product introduction process & its impact on R&D (31:28)
    • Questions to help guide teams throughout the new framework (33:11)
    • Rapid fire questions (34:22)

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

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    Navigating Multi-Product Expansion: Leadership & Career Insights from Figma’s CTO, Kris Rasmussen #124 Apr 04, 2023
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    We cover making intentional career shifts and leadership challenges navigating multi-product expansion with Kris Rasmussen, CTO @ Figma. He shares his experience transitioning from contractor work with Figma to a full-time role & the benefits of joining an eng org during its early stages. We also address Figma’s transition from a one-product company to a two-product company, Kris’s process for determining the eng org’s core areas of focus, challenges faced when becoming a multi-product org, frameworks for determining solutions to challenging projects, and lessons learned around releasing products with heavy collaboration.

    ABOUT KRIS RASMUSSEN

    Kris Rasmussen is the Chief Technology Officer at Figma, where he leads the engineering, security, and data science teams. Prior to joining Figma in 2017, Kris served as engineering lead and a technical advisor at Asana, where he co-authored many aspects of the framework and infrastructure that powers the company's real-time collaborative features. Before Asana, Kris co-founded RivalSoft Inc., a web-based application that gives companies an internal hub for market information and served as Chief Architect at Aptana.

    "One of the things that's helped me is just really kind of focusing on the outcome that I'm trying to create and trying to think about the most effective way to do that. All of us want to feel respected. We want to feel valued. We want to feel heard, but at the end of the day, we also want to create something that's greater than ourselves. We want to work on something that kind of outlives us and if you really want to do that, it doesn't really matter whose idea it was or who said what. All that really matters is that you come to the right solution as a group.”

    - Kris Rasmussen

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    SHOW NOTES:

    • Kris’s backstory with Figma & transitioning from contractor to CTO (1:02)
    • What factors validated Kris’s decision to join Figma full-time (4:50)
    • Leveraging the benefits of joining an eng org during its early stages (7:27)
    • Figma’s recent milestone shifts & how Kris’s responsibilities changed in response (9:09)
    • Transitioning from a one-product company to a two-product company (12:15)
    • Kris’s process for identifying the most important problems (13:57)
    • Strategies for determining core areas of focus (17:09)
    • Knowing when to shift to become multi-product (19:12)
    • How processes / org structure shifted in response to Figma’s second product (21:59)
    • Defining Figma’s vertical product-related org structures (23:22)
    • Challenges faced when getting to the multi-product moment (24:44)
    • Frameworks for determining when an idea is validated enough to staff it (29:57)
    • Kris’s process for determining a solution to a challenging R&D project (31:52)
    • Lessons learned around releasing highly collaborative products (36:06)
    • Strategies for letting go of your ego (39:46)
    • Rapid fire questions (40:47)

    LINKS AND RESOURCES

    • On Writing Well - On Writing Well, which grew out of a course that William Zinsser taught at Yale, has been praised for its sound advice, its clarity, and for the warmth of its style. It is a book for anybody who wants to learn how to write or who needs to do some writing to get through the day, as almost everybody does.

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

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    Rippling's Response to the SVB Collapse: A Story of Leadership, Crisis Management, Clarity and Communication w/ Albert Strasheim #123 Mar 28, 2023
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    Albert Strasheim, CTO & SVP of Engineering @ Rippling, joins us to share the riveting story of how Rippling’s leadership navigated the recent collapse of Silicon Valley Bank. He reveals what was at stake for his company & the hundreds of millions of dollars at stake for customers & their employees, how Rippling’s core values influenced their critical decision-making, tips for communicating with clarity both internally & externally, and tactics that allowed the team to respond with precision during crisis. Additionally, Albert shares the pre-crisis strategies, habits & systems he is most thankful for that helped Rippling leadership respond successfully throughout this critical period.

    ABOUT ALBERT STRASHEIM

    Albert Strasheim is Rippling's CTO and SVP, Engineering. Albert leads the global engineering team as it continues to expand the capabilities of Rippling’s products and the platform itself. Prior to Rippling, Albert served as VP of Engineering at Segment, where he spent more than five years building and leading the infrastructure and product teams responsible for creating Segment’s market-leading Customer Data Platform product. He was born and raised in South Africa and earned a Bachelor of Science and a Bachelor of Engineering from Stellenbosch University. Albert lives in the Bay Area and is an avid skier and surfer.

    "I think we had about $130 million on the way to employees of our clients. This was more than 50,000 people. They are not like rich Silicon Valley tech workers. It's everyday Americans making less than $55,000 a year. Some of them are living paycheck to paycheck and so missing a paycheck can have devastating consequences. We had to move really quickly to make sure these folks got paid. Basically, no matter what happened with SVB, those were the stakes. It's like people that critically needed money just wouldn't get it otherwise.”

    - Albert Strasheim

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    SHOW NOTES:

    • How Albert’s team @ Rippling responded to the Silicon Valley Bank collapse (2:56)
    • Rippling’s SVB story & how payroll was impacted by its collapse (6:24)
    • Identifying who was needed to coordinate Rippling’s response / decision making (9:49)
    • Albert discusses the millions of dollars of payroll at stake on Thursday (11:47)
    • How the SVB issue progressed into Thursday / Friday (13:07)
    • Communicating with customers during crisis & how Rippling ultimately made the payments (15:47)
    • Tactics that allow eng teams to respond with precision during crisis (19:57)
    • How leadership determined the right step in the right order to achieve the intended outcome (21:56)
    • Communicating context on how to think about a problem (23:21)
    • What the weekend looked like & the half a billion dollars of payroll at stake (24:39)
    • Internal communication systems that lead to Rippling’s success (26:34)
    • Tips for communicating with absolute clarity (28:40)
    • Albert’s SVB story: picking back up on Sunday going into the week (31:24)
    • Implementing an external communication strategy (33:07)
    • Pre-crisis habits & leadership systems that played a significant role in successfully navigating this issue (35:12)
    • Reflecting on the impact of this effort externally & internally one week out (38:17)
    • Rapid fire questions (40:27)

    LINKS AND RESOURCES

    • Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building - Scaling People is a practical and empathetic guide to company building and scaling the most important resource a company has: its people. Drawing on nearly two decades of experience as a Google and Stripe executive, Claire Hughes Johnson offers actionable insights and tactical guidance on everything from crafting foundational documents to hiring and team development to feedback and performance mechanisms.
    • An Elegant Puzzle: Systems of Engineering Management - Will Larson’s explores the specific challenges of engineering management—from sizing teams to handling technical debt to developing succession planning—and provides a guide to solving complex managerial problems.

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

    Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

    Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/


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    Cost-effective scaling & engineering efficiency w/ Shailesh Kumar #122 Mar 21, 2023
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    Shailesh Kumar, Sr. Vice President of Engineering @ ClickUp, joins us to share his insights on scaling eng orgs efficiently & cost-effectively. He reveals his strategies for gaining customer insights, identifying areas to invest in, navigating cloud cost efficiency, and optimizing your software & performing a software audit. Additionally, we cover approaches to balancing headcount & team efficiency, creating clarity around a problem, increasing the net output of your eng org, identifying where / when to add headcount, and making your EPD flywheel run smoothly.

    ABOUT SHAILESH KUMAR

    Shailesh Kumar is the Sr. Vice President of Engineering at ClickUp, leading the Engineering, Security, and IT operations for the company. He has more than 18 years of experience in building large-scale organizations and cloud platforms for high-growth enterprise companies, including his role as VP of Engineering at Mulesoft (and Salesforce post-acquisition) and Head of Data Platform and Server teams at Tableau.

    "You have to force yourself in having a discipline of asking the hard questions about all those ideas. What's the impact? What's the revenue goals? What's the target market? How much time are we talking about? The ideas are plenty. There are a lot of great ideas. You have to figure out which great idea is gonna turn into the highest revenue and that's a very hard exercise. I've seen many leaders know that they have to do that, but not do that very diligently and in a very disciplined way.”
    - Shailesh Kumar

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    SHOW NOTES:

    • Shailesh’s paradigm shift regarding scaling / eng org efficiency @ ClickUp (2:32)
    • How Shailesh is navigating ClickUp through the current cost-sensitive market (4:46)
    • Cost-effective areas that eng leaders should consider (6:55)
    • Shailesh’s recent insights on how to better serve customers (8:43)
    • Strategies for identifying areas to invest in & navigating difficult conversations with customers (10:02)
    • Questions to assess challenging areas (16:44)
    • Optimize your software & perform a software audit (18:49)
    • Tips on building teams to optimize engineering efficiency (20:07)
    • How to balance headcount and team efficiency (22:37)
    • Shailesh’s approach to challenges around team efficiency (24:22)
    • Frameworks for creating clarity of a problem / vision & refocusing a team (25:59)
    • What makes an EDP flywheel run smoothly (27:39)
    • Tactics to help increase the net output of your eng org (28:48)
    • Strategies for hiring without losing efficiency & identifying where to add them (30:36)
    • Frameworks Shailesh uses before adding a new function to the eng org (33:32)
    • The story behind building out the TPM function (35:18)
    • Rapid fire questions (38:24)

    LINKS AND RESOURCES

    • Amp It Up: Leading for Hypergrowth by Raising Expectations, Increasing Urgency, and Elevating Intensity - Snowflake CEO Frank Slootman is one of the tech world’s most accomplished executives in enterprise growth, having led Snowflake to the largest software IPO ever after leading ServiceNow and Data Domain to exponential growth and the public market before that. In Amp It Up: Leading for Hypergrowth by Raising Expectations, Increasing Urgency, and Elevating Intensity, he shares his leadership approach for the first time.

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

    Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

    Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/


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    Org specialization dilemmas & operating in regulatory environments w/ Kenny Shin #121 Mar 14, 2023
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    Kenny Shin, CTO @ Fundrise, joins us to discuss Fundrise’s journey, specialization dilemmas as an early-stage org, why specializing eng functions can help overcome plateaus in the business, plus other insights on operating in highly regulated environments like FinTech. He also reveals another dimension of the product design process – legal / regulators – and shares how regulatory environments impact the eng team’s developmental process. Plus Kenny dishes on Fundrise’s Innovation Fund, its impact on the engineering org, and how they’re re-applying tech in new sectors.

    ABOUT KENNY SHIN

    Kenneth J. Shin (@kennyshin7) is Chief Technical Officer of Fundrise, America’s largest direct-to-investor alternatives investment manager. He has served in this role since the company’s inception in March 2012.

    Fundrise’s mission is to use technology to build a better financial system for the individual investor, one that is simpler, lower cost, more reliable and transparent. They build software that enables the company to develop and manage investments uniquely well-positioned to grow and preserve their clients’ capital in any economic environment.

    Since launching America’s first online real estate investment platform in 2012, Fundrise has now become the largest direct-to-investor alternatives investment manager with more than 1.6 million active users, more than $3.3 billion worth of equity under management, and $7 billion worth of real estate transacted. From private credit to real estate private equity to growth-stage venture capital, Fundrise offers investors exposure to some of the most prized asset classes in the world.

    Prior to Fundrise, Kenny has consulted for Fortune 500 clients in financial services and technology, including Fannie Mae, Oracle, Lockheed Martin and Computer Science Corporation. Kenny has also consulted for government clients including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Defense and NATO. Kenny earned his Bachelor of Science in Computer Science Engineering from the University of Pennsylvania.

    "The entire industry generally has to try to abstract all of that complexity and regulation away from the end user and the companies that do that the best, that's one of their main value propositions.

    I think it's key to our operations because the opposite of it is you leave that complexity to a few subject matter experts in the organization and they become the bottleneck for everything.”
    - Kenny Shin

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    SHOW NOTES:

    • Kenny’s journey co-founding Fundrise (2:37)
    • What Kenny’s early risk assessment looked like (4:58)
    • Advice for young eng talent considering taking a riskier role (8:12)
    • Fundrise’s evolution & key inflection points (9:45)
    • How Fundrise tackled uncertainty during the pandemic’s early days (11:52)
    • Addressing specialization dilemmas as an early-stage org (14:45)
    • Why specializing eng functions helped Fundrise overcome its plateau (16:08)
    • Kenny’s approach to identifying new opportunities around specialization (19:53)
    • Challenges of operating in a constrained space, like Fintech (23:38)
    • Why constrained industries require orgs to abstract away more complexities (25:03)
    • How regulatory environments impact the eng team’s developmental process (26:46)
    • Incorporating legal / regulators into your product design process (29:17)
    • The Innovation Fund & its role within Fundrise’s overall strategy (31:52)
    • Unexpected ways the Innovation Fund is impacting the engineering function (34:04)
    • Rapid fire questions (36:47)

    LINKS AND RESOURCES

    • Crying in H Mart - In this exquisite story of family, food, grief, and endurance, Michelle Zauner proves herself far more than a dazzling singer, songwriter, and guitarist. With humor and heart, she tells of growing up one of the few Asian American kids at her school in Eugene, Oregon; of struggling with her mother’s particular, high expectations of her; of a painful adolescence; of treasured months spent in her grandmother’s tiny apartment in Seoul, where she and her mother would bond, late at night, over heaping plates of food.

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

    Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

    Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/


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    Resource advocacy, frameworks for saying yes / no, & removing critical points of failure w/ Megan Kacholia #120 Mar 07, 2023
    Show notes

    As eng leaders, we’re often strapped for resources – so learning how to advocate for more support is vital. Megan Kacholia, VP of Engineering @ Google, reveals her best strategies when it comes to asking for more resources, removing linchpins / critical points of failure from your eng team, encouraging others to accept changes that will benefit them, knowing when to say “yes” vs. “no” to new responsibilities (and the trade-offs that come with that decision), and navigating challenging situations as a manager.

    ABOUT MEGAN KACHOLIA

    Megan Kacholia is a Vice President of Engineering within Google's Core organization. She is a leader in the Cross-Google Engineering (xGE) effort, which is responsible for company-wide technical coordination. Her passion is building effective teams and addressing barriers to help Googlers do their best work.

    Previously, Megan was and VP in Google’s Research organization, where her team’s work spanned machine learning in research as well as production, including products such as TensorFlow, and prior to that she had a long tenure in Google’s Ads organization, where she ran the serving system for Google’s DisplayAds business. Megan has a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science from UIUC.

    "At the end of the day, we had to be able to explain it to the team. Right? And I can't go and tell the team and be like, 'Well, the opex costs are too high because you know of this reason with the headcount and this and that and I know so and so told you they love you, but really it didn't mean this thing.'

    In some ways, those details don't matter, right? What matters is these people are worried that their project's getting shut down. So when it came time to communicate that we actually were gonna shut it down. We have to do an official shutdown because we have to announce it externally. So that means we have to make sure people only have so many weeks to find a new project and all of these things. So the main thing I emphasize when I talked to them wasn't about like, 'Oh, I did all of this work to try and save your project, and I couldn't.' That was irrelevant. It couldn't be saved.

    The most important thing was about what's the impact for the people? Well, I've already lined up options and positions for every single one.”
    - Megan Kacholia

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    To learn more about Jellyfish and how they can help you increase engineering satisfaction and create happier, higher-performing engineering teams.

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    Join us for one of our in-person community events!

    That's right! We're hosting in-person community events in San Francisco, New York City, Seattle, and Chicago! Break out of your comfort zone and join us in a casual environment to connect, problem-solve, and support each other in our engineering leadership journeys.

    Don't see your city on the list? No problem!

    Reach out to Tim at Tim@sfelc.com and let's bring ELC to you - and make it happen!

    TO GET INVOLVED, EMAIL OUR HEAD OF COMMUNITY TIM AT TIM@SFELC.COM

    SHOW NOTES:

    • How Megan advocated for more resources / support at Google (3:07)
    • Convincing direct reports to accept changes & understand benefits (6:07)
    • Insights on how to drive change within your eng team (10:20)
    • Balancing accuracy & simplicity when communicating with your team (12:29)
    • Frameworks for saying “yes” vs. “no” to new responsibilities (16:41)
    • What to do when the decision to say “yes” or “no” isn’t clear (19:46)
    • Having the confidence to say “no” (20:53)
    • Find ways to give your team control within the given situation (24:38)
    • The hardest situations to say “no” to as an eng leader (25:54)
    • Megan’s approach to managing people with more experience than you (28:57)
    • How to navigate managing someone you have a pre-existing peer relationship with (31:09)
    • Knowing when to help vs. fix as a manager (35:14)
    • Tips for removing “linchpins” / critical points of failure from your eng team (37:34)
    • Rapid fire questions (41:12)

    LINKS AND RESOURCES

    • The Emperor of All Maladies - Physician, researcher, and award-winning science writer, Siddhartha Mukherjee examines cancer with a cellular biologist’s precision, a historian’s perspective, and a biographer’s passion. The result is an astonishingly lucid and eloquent chronicle of a disease humans have lived with—and perished from—for more than five thousand years.

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

    Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

    Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/


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    Gaining cross-functional leadership at large & small scale companies & investing in org maturity w/ Bhavini Soneji #119 Feb 28, 2023
    Show notes

    Bhavini Soneji, VP of Product Engineering @ Cruise, shares her leadership journey & how she gained cross-functional experience working at both large & small organizations. We cover how to gain product experience alongside engineering, deciding which elements of your org to mature/invest in, why you should examine the role of fear in your decision-making, and strategies for asking for more experience & opportunities to gain confidence.

    ABOUT BHAVINI SONEJI

    Bhavini loves using human-centered design with streamlined automation to create experiences that improve people’s lives. Previously, she has led teams through different growth stages at Microsoft, Snapchat, Headspace, and Heal. Additionally, she enjoys giving back to the community, advising C-level executives, mentoring at Techstars, First Round, and has also founded a group of Women Technology Executives in Los Angeles to support and foster this group while playing an active role in the LA CTO Forum. When she’s not working, she loves the outdoors and enjoys boogie boarding with her husband and twins.

    "Just knowing kind of the imposter syndrome that is holding you back. For me, it is like I'm always having a very high bar so am I hitting myself more and how do I be kind to myself? How do I support myself better? So I think that's one thing first, looking back and saying, 'No. I've done this, this, this. So my fears are not true, otherwise, I wouldn't be here.'”

    - Bhavini Soneji

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    To learn more about Jellyfish and how they can help you increase engineering satisfaction and create happier, higher-performing engineering teams.

    Learn more at Jellyfish.co/elc

    Join us for one of our in-person community events!

    That's right! We're hosting in-person community events in San Francisco, New York City, Seattle, and Chicago! Break out of your comfort zone and join us in a casual environment to connect, problem-solve, and support each other in our engineering leadership journeys.

    Don't see your city on the list? No problem!

    Reach out to Tim at Tim@sfelc.com and let's bring ELC to you - and make it happen!

    TO GET INVOLVED EMAIL OUR HEAD OF COMMUNITY TIM ATTIM@SFELC.COM

    SHOW NOTES:

    • Bhavini’s leadership journey & gaining cross-functional experience (2:47)
    • How Bhavini tactically transitioned from each role into the next (7:24)
    • Watch for fears & biases throughout your decision-making (11:53)
    • Frameworks for identifying fears that are holding you back (13:41)
    • Examples of how cross-functional leadership differs at large vs. small orgs (16:32)
    • Conversation tips for getting stakeholders back on track (20:08)
    • Determining which elements of an org to mature/invest in (21:32)
    • Questions to consider when investing in technology or processes (24:03)
    • What to invest in when an organization’s scale starts picking up (26:06)
    • Why investing in the people element can be trickier than processes or tooling (29:26)
    • Strategies for asking for new experiences (32:03)
    • Bhavini’s favorite question for identifying/clarifying what you want next (34:22)
    • Rapid fire questions (35:52)

    LINKS AND RESOURCES

    • Prisoners of Geography by Tim Marshall - an award-winning journalist uses ten maps of crucial regions to explain the geo-political strategies of the world powers.

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

    Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

    Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/


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    Building platforms vs. products & leveraging OODA loops in leadership w/ Oksana Kubushyna #118 Feb 21, 2023
    Show notes

    We discuss the differences between building a platform versus a product with Oksana Kubushyna, Head of Operations, Entertainment @ Riot Games! She shares about her leadership journey building the Riot Platform Group and transitioning from a technical lead to management role, tips for empowering your team, how to utilize cross-discipline thinking, the importance of internal measurement metrics, and how Oksana strategically utilizes OODA loops in her leadership style.

    ABOUT OKSANA KUBUSHYNA

    As VP of Entertainment Operations, Oksana Kubushyna oversees operations of Riot’s Entertainment division with a goal to imagine and develop bespoke IP experiences and products - animation, film, interactive narratives, music, consumer products and beyond - that deepen players’ and fans’ connections to the universe Riot has created in League of Legends.

    After joining Riot in 2014, she quickly rose through the ranks, holding positions including Head of Infrastructure, Development Director for League of Legends, founder and Head of Riot Platform Group, and VP of Game Studios Operations, helping build the foundation for, launch and operate Riot’s new games globally.

    After a few years working on establishing Riot Games' Entertainment division and releasing the award-winning Arcane animated TV series, Oksana has shifted her focus back to Riot's Game Studios where she recently took on managing Riot's Production, QA, and Creative departments.

    She has also been a leader of Diversity and Inclusion efforts within Riot. Her passion for the advancement of women in games and tech reaches beyond Riot, and she has been honored by groups such as Girls Inc. and Wonder Women Tech.

    "So for one decision of a CEO, the entire company can take months and months of work on observing, orienting, and deciding before that decision is settled throughout the organization. Now, imagine if CEO the very next day comes in and makes another decision of the same scope, and another one, because for CEO that decisions already done. He can move on or she can move on, but the team is still like wrangling. So it's very important for you as a leader to understand the speed at which your company or your team can process your decisions and act and settle in them before you make the next one.

    - Oksana Kubushyna

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    To learn more about Jellyfish and how they can help you increase engineering satisfaction and create happier, higher-performing engineering teams.

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    SHOW NOTES:

    • Oksana’s experience building & leading the Riot Platform Group (2:15)
    • Lessons learned while transitioning from product to platform (4:23)
    • How to utilize cross-discipline thinking when building out something new (7:30)
    • Strategies for transitioning from single- to multiple-discipline thinking (11:14)
    • The benefits of empowering the team around you (13:37)
    • Differences between building a product vs. building a platform (17:08)
    • Tactics for balancing building ahead of stakeholders with maintaining vision (20:32)
    • Internal measurement metrics that are key to Oksana’s team (23:03)
    • How Oksana utilizes OODA loops within her leadership style (25:55)
    • Tips for reducing the pain of the decision-making process (29:27)
    • What drawing a picture of decisions looks like (33:25)
    • Rapid fire questions (36:04)

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

    Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

    Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/


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    Increasing capacity to win in an economic downturn, cultivating a founder’s mindset & product ownership in engineering w/ Shadi Rostami #117 Feb 14, 2023
    Show notes

    Shadi Rostami, SVP of Engineering @ Amplitude, joins us to discuss key insights and strategies to increase your engineering orgs capacity to win in an economic downturn. We cover cultivating a founder’s mindset and increasing product ownership in engineering. Plus prioritization strategies, determining where to invest resources, and shifting your team’s perspective from skepticism to optimism.

    ABOUT SHADI ROSTAMI

    Shadi Rostami is SVP of engineering at Amplitude. She is a passionate, seasoned technology leader and architect experienced in building and managing highly proficient engineering teams. Prior to Amplitude, she was VP of Engineering at Palo Alto Networks. She has innovated and delivered several product lines and services specializing in distributed systems, cloud computing, big data, machine learning, and security. She has a Ph.D. in computer engineering from the University of British Columbia and a B.Sc. from Sharif University of Technology. Shadi has published several peer-reviewed conference articles and journals as well as several patents.

    "Many, many years ago, I went to my VP and I asked him, ‘Rajiv, I don't know, shall I do A or B?’ And he told me, ‘if it was your own money and your own company, which decision you would've made?’ I said, ‘I'll do A,’ he says, ‘then you know the answer. You don't need to come and ask me. Right? Put your founder hat on and tell me what decision we should be making.’ Shall we do A or shall we do B? That is the ultimate sense of ownership.”
    - Shadi Rostami

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    To learn more about Jellyfish and how they can help you increase engineering satisfaction and create happier, higher-performing engineering teams.

    Learn more at Jellyfish.co/elc


    Join us for one of our in-person community events!

    That's right! We're hosting in-person community events in San Francisco, New York City, Seattle, and Chicago! Break out of your comfort zone and join us in a casual environment to connect, problem-solve, and support each other in our engineering leadership journeys.

    Don't see your city on the list? No problem! Reach out to Tim at Tim@sfelc.com and let's bring ELC to you - and make it happen!

    To get involved email our Head of Community Tim at Tim@sfelc.com

    SHOW NOTES:

    • Examples of how engineering increases an org’s capacity for winning (1:54)
    • Strategies to drive product-led growth (4:58)
    • Why product-led prioritization is key during an economic downturn (6:56)
    • Balancing quantitative vs. qualitative data when determining where to invest resources in (9:12)
    • Set the same goal for your eng team & the product (12:44)
    • The importance of weekly learning users & other valuable metrics (15:58)
    • How a founder mindset fosters a product ownership mentality in engineers (18:47)
    • Practices to help cultivate a founder mentality (23:10)
    • Shadi’s advice for better translation between the business & engineering (27:16)
    • Tactics for reframing a conversation from skepticism to perpetual optimism (29:43)
    • Owning the product experience within the restraints of an economic downturn (33:29)
    • Signals to watch for that it’s time to pivot (36:17)
    • How to increase opportunities for your team to find luck (41:46)
    • Rapid fire questions (43:41)

    LINKS AND RESOURCES

    • Fresh Air - Fresh Air from WHYY, the Peabody Award-winning weekday magazine of contemporary arts and issues, is one of public radio's most popular programs. Hosted by Terry Gross, the show features intimate conversations with today's biggest luminaries.
    • All Things Considered - NPR’s flagship evening newsmagazine, delivering in-depth reporting that transforms the way listeners understand current events and view the world.
    • All-In - Industry veterans, degenerate gamblers & besties Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks & David Friedberg cover all things economic, tech, political, social & poker.

    This episode wouldn’t have been possible without the help of our incredible production team:

    Patrick Gallagher - Producer & Co-Host

    Jerry Li - Co-Host

    Noah Olberding - Associate Producer, Audio & Video Editor https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-olberding/

    Dan Overheim - Audio Engineer, Dan’s also an avid 3D printer - https://www.bnd3d.com/

    Ellie Coggins Angus - Copywriter, Check out her other work at https://elliecoggins.com/about/


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