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    The Dive Down

    The Dive Down is a weekly podcast for people who love Magic: The Gathering but like talking about other things too. From videogames, to parenting, to 3D printing, and beyond. Each week hosts Dave, Stan, and Shane discuss the latest Magic formats they’ve been playing, videogames they’ve been beating, movies they’ve been watching, music they’ve discovered, and the daily embarrassments they endure along the way. Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Proudly sponsored by Heavy Play, a new card gaming accessories brand that’ll improve your gameplay and game day. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2025 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com/ We’re also sponsored by ManaTraders, the best Magic card rental service for both Magic Online and paper! Get 25% cashback after 3 months of using ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown or use Manatraders coupon code THEDIVEDOWN

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    Episode 58: Diving Deeper: #2020Goals Jan 31, 2020
    Show notes

    First up this week, we take a spin through what's been popping up in Pioneer and Modern since the release of Theros: Beyond Death. In our Dive Down section, each of us talks about our goals for improving our game or relationship with MtG in 2020 (#2020Goals #squadgoals #whathappensnextmightsurpriseyou). Finally, we wind down with some of Stan's tales of fantastic planeswalkers and where to find them — in London and Amsterdam, at least.

    The Break Down: A Trip to the Spice Station
    The Dive Down: Getting Better in 2020
    The Wind Down: Player's Club International

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Timecodes:
    3:09- Break Down begins
    4:36- TBD and the state of Modern
    17:48 -TBD and the state of Pioneer
    33:12 - Dive Down Begins
    34:39 - Stan's Goals: Focusing on a specific archetype
    53:43- Zak's Goals: Sequencing
    1:06:39 - Shane's Goals: Mulligans
    1:23:03 - Dave's Goals: Take it Easy
    1:37:39 - Wind Down begins

    Links from this week's episode:
    –
    Modern
    Titan Field w/ Dryad by toondoslav https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2705484#paper
    Zur’s Weirding.dek by Nephtyz https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2698557#paper
    GW/Abzan Heliod by Spoonmanaron https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2698538#paper
    –
    Pioneer
    Pioneer Showcase Challenge lists https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12076816#paper
    Breach Lotus Storm by Taruto1212 https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2705456#paper
    Abzan Rallistocrats by Uniq https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-league-2020-01-23#paper

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Support The Dive Down


    Episode 57: Oh Lord He Comin': Chonky Red ft. Todd Anderson Jan 24, 2020
    Show notes

    This week The Dive Down crew welcomes special guest Todd Anderson to join us on our first Pioneer-focused Deck Dive — Chonky Red! Listen to find out why it's not an aggro deck, how tightly you should hold your Rabblemasters, and how to really bring the glory.

    The Break Down: Todd and All Things Todd
    The Dive Down: Chonk and All Things Chonk
    The Wind Down: Listener Questions

    You can find Todd at: https://www.twitch.tv/strong_sad or https://twitter.com/strong_sad

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Timestamps:
    3:30 - Housekeeping
    4:30 - The Break Down: An interview with Todd!
    33:12 - The Dive Down begins: Chonky Red!
    34:52 - What is the Chonk?
    36:30 - Why all those lands?
    42:00 - What makes this deck popular?
    45:00 - The development of the Chonk
    53:30 - The construction of the Chonk - the aggro creatures
    1:09:00 - The burn spells
    1:12:24 - The creatures that are also burn spells!
    1:22:09 - The goldfish cards
    1:31:26 - The… Chandra
    1:35:33 - Sideboard considerations
    1:42:23 - The future of the Chonk
    1:46:02 - The Wind Down: listener questions!
    1:52:23 - Where to find Todd

    Links from this week's episode:
    Todd's recent Chonky Red article on SCG, including his most recent decklist: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/its-not-big-its-chonky-all-things-chonky-red-in-pioneer/

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

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    Episode 56: Bans & Theros: Beyond Hyped, Vol. 2 Jan 17, 2020
    Show notes

    We take another look at Theros Beyond Death, and share some of our picks to click in Pioneer and Modern!
    The Break Down: Irrelevant top 8s and, oh yeah, HUGE MODERN BANS
    The Dive Down: Theros Beyond Death Picks to Click - Again!
    The Wind Down: The Dive Down Nation's favorite cards from Theros Beyond Death

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Timestamps:
    4:10 - Housekeeping
    5:18 - The Break Down begins - Some outdated Top 8s
    8:34 - A closer look at Golgari Yawgmoth
    14:30 - 3 Modern bans!
    33:20 - The Dive Down begins - Shadowspear
    39:53 - Nylea, Keen Eyed
    46:45 - Underworld Breach
    55:06 - Gallia of the Endless Dance
    1:00:26 - Shatter the Sky
    1:08:45 - Klothys, God of Destiny
    1:16:42 - Quick Picks begin - Thassa, Deep Dwelling
    1:18:05 - Dryad of the Ilysian Grove
    1:19:52 - Eidolon of Obstruction
    1:22:00 - Escape Velocity
    1:23:52 - Thassa’s Oracle
    1:25:40 - Gravebreaker Lamia
    1:27:52 - Fruit of Tizerus
    1:30:34 - The Wind Down - The Picks to Click Listener Survey
    1:40:22 - Closing out

    Links from this week's episode:
    Jan 13 B&R announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/january-13-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement?n
    MagicFest Austin coverage: https://coverage.channelfireball.com/event/47
    SCG Knoxville Open coverage: https://old.starcitygames.com/events/110120_knoxville.html
    Golgari Yawgmoth deck tech: https://old.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/golgari_yawgmoth_with_aaron_ba.html

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

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    Episode 55: Theros: Beyond Hyped, Vol. 1 Jan 10, 2020
    Show notes

    The crew takes a first look at Theros Beyond Death, and share some of their favorite, standout cards.
    The Break Down: MTGO Modern Championship
    The Dive Down: Theros Beyond Death Picks

    Timestamps:
    1:52 - Housekeeping
    3:26 - The Break Down begins
    6:00 - MTGO Modern Championship
    15:00 - SCG Open Columbus
    16:33 - Bryan Gottlieb’s Hot New Deck
    28:55 - The Dive Down Begins
    29:39 - Our New Card Wishlists
    38:17 - How We Evaluate Cards
    42:45 - Tectonic Giant
    49:12 - Escape Discussion
    51:12 - Ox of Agonas
    59:52 - Heliod, Sun-Crowned
    1:11:12 - Polukranos, Unchained
    1:20:05 - Whirlwind Denial
    1:26:54 - The RB and UG Titans

    Links from this week's episode:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/ekmpp3/mtgo_modern_champs_top_32_decklists/
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-champs-2020-01-05
    https://twitter.com/BryanGo/status/1213962888194318336/photo/2

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Support The Dive Down


    Bonus 4: Casual Spike Meets Aspiring Spike Dec 31, 2019
    Show notes

    In this installment of our monthly bonus episodes, Shane talks to the popular streamer Evart Moughon, better known as Aspiring Spike, about Pioneer, Modern, streaming, and playing with and against control decks.

    Find the Aspiring Spike:
    Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/moughonevart

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Support The Dive Down


    Episode 54: The Many Moods of Monastery Mentor Dec 27, 2019
    Show notes

    The lads see if Monastery Mentor has what it takes to succeed in Pioneer by testing 3 different decks!
    The Break Down: Looking over the post-Oko Pioneer Preliminaries (plus some Modern Prelims)
    The Dive Down: Making mistakes with Monastery Mentor
    The Wind Down: Holiday listener questions

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Timestamps:
    1:53 - Housekeeping
    3:20 - The Break Down begins - Pouring over the post-Oko Pioneer Prelims
    13:22 - Looking more closely at Green Ramp in Pioneer
    21:56 - A brief look at the Modern Prelims
    29:40 - The Dive Down begins - There's a Mentor in my Monastery!
    36:40 - Exploring Mentor in Pioneer
    38:46 - Shane with GW Mentor Tokens
    48:30 - The verdict on GW Mentor
    55:22 - Dave with Mardu PyroMentor
    1:09:35 - The verdict on Mardu PyroMentor
    1:11:29 - Stan with Esper Mentor
    1:20:16 - The verdict on Esper Mentor
    1:29:52 - Lessons learned on Monastery Mentor
    1:34:13 - The Wind Down - Listener questions

    Links from this week's episode:
    Shane's GW Mentor Tokens: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2587692#paper
    Dave's Mardu PyroMentor: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2590187#paper
    Stan's Esper Mentor: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2587940#paper

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Support The Dive Down


    Episode 53: Diving Deeper: 5 Pioneer Takeaways Dec 20, 2019
    Show notes

    This week we Dive Deeper into the Pioneer format, and bring you 5 ways to level up your play!
    The Break Down: The latest Pioneer bans, and WOTC's new B&R schedule
    The Dive Down: Level up your Pioneer thinking with 5 takeaways
    The Wind Down: We answer some listener questions

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Timestamps:
    3:02 - Housekeeping
    4:19 - The Break Down begins - The latest Pioneer bans
    19:07 - WOTC's new B&R schedule, or lack thereof
    29:18 - The Dive Down begins - Observations on Pioneer
    30:18 - Non-basic lands.... can be good!
    43:17 - Taking the advantage back on the draw
    57:25 - The 3 toughness challenge
    1:11:00 - The casting cost mindshift, 1 mana cards in Pioneer
    1:19:30 - Counterspells in Pioneer
    1:26:30 - The Wind Down: Listener questions on Pioneer

    Links from this week's episode:
    The 12/16/19 Pioneer bannings: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-16-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement
    The 12/16/19 B&R annoucement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-16-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Support The Dive Down


    Episode 52: 2019: A Real Year Dec 13, 2019
    Show notes

    The guys get together in a studio to indulge themselves with discussion of our favorite Dive Down (and Magic) moments of 2019.
    The Break Down: We talk about what we have been playing and enjoying in Modern and Pioneer
    The Dive Down: The best (and worst) of 2019

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Timestamps:
    1:52 - Housekeeping
    3:33 - The Break Down: what we've been playing
    34:15 - The Dive Down begins: our 2019
    35:14 - Favorite episodes of the year
    43:45 - Favorite Deck Dives of the year
    47:01 - Worst and best card picks to click of the year
    1:03:10 - Sleeve/Believe/Heave decks of the year
    1:14:43 - Our cards of the year
    1:21:16 - Our Magic experiences of the year
    1:26:28 - The best new format of the year
    1:30:03 - Our guests of the year
    1:33:07 - Our worst takes of the year
    1:39:22 - Was 2019 a good year for Magic?
    1:44:34 - Signing off

    Links from this week's episode:
    Find Gal Schlesinger on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/yamakiller
    Listen to the Pioneer Cast, featuring Ross Merriam: https://twitter.com/CastPioneer
    Read Emma Partlow's content on TCG Player: https://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article_search_result.asp?author=Emma%20Partlow
    Find Riley Knight's content on Channel Fireball: https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/author/riley-knight/
    Listen to Faithless Brewing: https://faithlessbrewing.podbean.com

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    Support The Dive Down


    Episode 51: ROY G NIV: 5C Niv-Mizzet ft. Faithless Brewing Dec 06, 2019
    Show notes

    The Dive Down teams up with Faithless Brewing to bring you a deck dive into Five Color Niv-Mizzet!
    The Break Down: The week of Pioneer PTQs and the subsequent bans
    The Dive Down: The Five Color Niv-Mizzet deck dive!

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Timestamps:
    3:28 - Introducing Faithless Brewing
    7:52 - Housekeeping
    10:28 - The Break Down begins: Pioneer PTQs = Pioneer bans
    19:28 - The Dive Down begins: Introducing 5C Niv
    25:10 - What IS 5C Niv?
    31:28 - The gameplan
    43:24 - The cards begin: The BTL toolbox
    50:00 - The mana
    57:34 - The guild cards
    1:16:15 - Executing the game plan
    1:21:03 - The place in the meta
    1:29:10 - Sideboarding with Niv
    1:32:07 - Sideboarding against Niv
    1:36:43 - The future of Niv
    1:41:26 - Closing out

    Links from this week's episode:
    Faithless Brewing's homepage: https://faithlessbrewing.podbean.com
    Faithless Brewing on Twitter: https://twitter.com/faithlessmtg
    Faithless Brewing's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/faithlessbrewing
    December 2nd Pioneer Bannings: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-2-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement
    An example 5CNM decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2518206#paper

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

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    Bonus 3: Return of the Reply Guys Dec 02, 2019
    Show notes

    In our third bonus episode, we take questions from our awesome fans and listeners about Magic the Gathering and our personal lives.

    Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
    Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"

    Timestamps:
    2:05 - How bad does your favorite deck have to be in the metagame for you to play something else?
    5:55 - How have your paper groups changed with Pioneer? Have people started leaving Modern to play Pioneer?
    9:28 - Is The Dive Down going to transition its focus to Pioneer?
    13:11 - What are your favorite deck archetypes?
    17:35 - What were your favorite cards when you started playing, and what are your current favorite cards?
    26:29 - How did we start playing Magic?
    37:34 - What do you do outside of Magic for fun or when you need a break from Magic?
    47:24 - What's one pre-Modern card we would add to the card pool?

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

    email us: thedivedown@gmail.com
    twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

    [Support The Dive Down](patreon.com/thedivedown)

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