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    The Dive Down

    The Dive Down is a weekly podcast for people who love Magic: The Gathering but like talking about other things too. From videogames, to parenting, to 3D printing, and beyond. Each week hosts Dave, Stan, and Shane discuss the latest Magic formats they’ve been playing, videogames they’ve been beating, movies they’ve been watching, music they’ve discovered, and the daily embarrassments they endure along the way. Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Proudly sponsored by Heavy Play, a new card gaming accessories brand that’ll improve your gameplay and game day. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2025 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com/ We’re also sponsored by ManaTraders, the best Magic card rental service for both Magic Online and paper! Get 25% cashback after 3 months of using ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown or use Manatraders coupon code THEDIVEDOWN

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    Episode 293: Boros Energy is Better than Rakdos Aggro & Duskmourn Spoilers, pt 2 Sep 19, 2024
    Show notes

    On this week's show, d00mwake recaps his RCQ win with Gerry T's take on Boros Energy, Stan recounts all the reasons he hated Rakdos Aggro, the boys review results from the NRG Louisville Modern Open, and discuss our final picks from Duskmourn.

    The Break Down: Devon Wins an RCQ!
    The Break Down cont.: 70% Winrate Seems Good!
    The Dive Down: Goods Cards From the Bad House?

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    Timestamps:
    8:13 - Heavy Play, a patient and caring member of your family
    9:09 - This week's show/housekeeping
    10:55 - The Break Down begins: Devon won an RCQ with the new Boros Energy!
    28:05 - The NRG Louisville Modern 10k
    38:46 - Stan played Rakdos Aggro in Pioneer
    45:04 - The Dive Down Begins: Duskmourn spoilers, part 2!
    46:28 - Rip, Spawn Hunter
    50:41 - Sheltered By Ghosts
    53:40 - Screaming Nemesis
    57:55 - Trial of Agony
    1:01:45 - Altanak, the Thrice-Called
    1:03:19 - Valgavoth Terror Eater
    1:08:14 - Kona, Rescue Beastie
    1:11:42 - Exorcise
    1:15:30 - Nashi, Searcher in the Dark
    1:18:20 - Hedge Shredder
    1:21:24 - Roaring Furnace
    1:24:14 - Walk-In Closet
    1:27:50 - Our top cards from Duskmourn
    1:33:41 - Wrapping up

    Links from this week's episode:
    Gerry's Boros Energy: https://x.com/G3RRYT/status/1835089558964232249
    NRG winrate matrix: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/10-000-showdown-nrg-series-louisville-kentucky-tournament-169856/winrates

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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    Episode 292: Rakdos Aggro Takes Pioneer & Duskmourn Spoilers, pt 1 Sep 12, 2024
    Show notes

    A new Pioneer metagame is upon us, just in time for a slate of new cards from Duskmourn. On this week's show, we review Pioneer MTGO Challenge results following the Amalia and Sorin bans, take a closer look at the hot new Rakdos Aggro deck making waves in the format, and peer into the latest spoilers from Duskrmourn.

    The Break Down: Rakdos Aggro, So Hot Right Now
    The Dive Down: Duskmourn Spoilers, pt 1

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    • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

    Timestamps:
    7:01 - Heavy Play is not a true crime
    9:37 - This week's show/housekeeping
    12:41 - The Break Down begins: Checking in on Pioneer
    29:19 - Rakdos Prowess in Pioneer
    37:12 - The Dive Down begins: Duskmourn previews!
    42:19 - The mechanics of Duskmourn
    56:22 - The Land cycles
    1:03:22 - The Leyline cycle
    1:10:35 - Pyroclasm
    1:12:22 - Abhorrent Oculus
    1:15:22 - Marvin, Murderous Mimic
    1:17:16 - Split Up
    1:19:25 - Kaito, Bane of Nightmares
    1:22:10 - Chainsaw
    1:25:37 - Silent Hallcreeper
    1:27:33 - Nowhere to Run
    1:29:09 - Unstoppable Slasher
    1:32:01 - Razorkin Needlehead
    1:35:44 - Wrapping up

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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    Episode 291: Dreams Do Come True: Stan Visits WOTC, Modern is Healing Sep 05, 2024
    Show notes

    What a long strange trip it's been... from Chicago to Seattle! On this week's show, Stan shares stories and highlights from his visit to Wizards of the Coast headquarters. Then we look at the first batch of Modern results since the Nadu ban, and breath a sigh of relief at a format finding its footing.

    The Break Down: The Sights and Sounds of Renton, WA
    The Dive Down: Energy Looks Good, Modern Looks Better

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    • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

    Timestamps:
    5:13 - Heavy Play is better than Mountain Dewmwake
    7:13 - This week's show/housekeeping
    12:25 - The Break Down begins: Stan went to WOTC!
    41:40 - Stan interviews Blake Rasmussen
    51:45 - Stan interviews Aaron Forsythe, Mike Turian, and Carmen Klomparens
    1:04:14 - The Dive Down begins: Post-ban Modern
    1:23:29 - Dave played Hollow One
    1:34:47 - Devon played Naya Energy
    1:48:34 - Wrapping up

    Links from this week's episode:
    Samalia Combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6612111#paper
    Devon's Naya Energy: https://x.com/d00mwake/status/1830402879229755474

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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    Episode 290: Grief is Banned. Joy is Allowed. Aug 28, 2024
    Show notes

    This week we talk about... what else? With multiple cards banned in Pioneer and Modern — and a few cards left suspiciously untouched — we talk through what happened, how we feel about it, and what we think will happen next.

    • It Finally Happened
    • Sorin and Amalia Go in Pioneer
    • Nadu and Grief (?) Go in Modern

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    • Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store
    • Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com
    • Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_8LU
    • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

    Timestamps:
    6:09 - Heavy Play will not file an injunction against you
    8:08 - This week's show/housekeeping
    11:14 - The Break Down begins: Bans in Pioneer
    13:56 - Amalia is banned
    21:45 - Sorin is banned
    26:35 - What wasn't banned?
    37:06 - Bans in Modern!
    47:50 - Should Commander impact Modern?
    56:20 - Why was Nadu banned?
    1:14:20 - The One Ring - not banned!
    1:28:40 - Changes to the B&R schedule
    1:33:58 - Wrapping up

    Links from this week's episode:
    WOTC's B&R Announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-26-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement
    Michael Majors's Article: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/on-banning-nadu-winged-wisdom-in-modern

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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    Episode 289: Breached Eldrazi and Lizards, Wizards Aug 22, 2024
    Show notes

    Despite Stan getting Nadu's out of a Modern RCQ, he brushed off the dust and went back to MTGO for some Rakdos Lizards in Standard. Then Shane casts Through the Breach to cheat some Eldrazi into play, and Dave revisits a few Modern Wizards in an updated Izzet shell.

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    • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

    Timestamps:
    7:24 - Heavy Play enhances your natural abilities
    9:28 - This week's show/housekeeping
    14:27 - The Break Down begins: Stan played an RCQ
    21:04 - More data from Anaël Yahi
    23:35 - The Dive Down begins: Stan played Rakdos Lizards in Standard
    44:00 - Shane played Through the Breach in Modern
    1:08:30 - Dave played Izzet... stuff in Modern
    1:19:40 - Wrapping up

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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    Episode 288: Scoop Less, Mull More, Remember Cards That Were Good Before Aug 15, 2024
    Show notes

    On this week's show, we marvel at the return of Through the Breach in MTGO Modern events, followed by a couple level up topics about scooping and mulligans. Then Lee McLeod drops buy to educate us about some Nadu Loops, and we wrap with a walk down memory lane via Dave's box of former playables.

    The Break Down: Return of Through the Breach?
    The Dive Down: Conceding? Mulliganning?
    The Dive Down cont.: Nadu Looping with Lee McLoud!
    The Wind Down: Dave's Box of Secrets

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    • Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store
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    • Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_8LU
    • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

    Timestamps:
    6:44 - Heavy Play is not sold at Mars Cheese Castle
    7:55 - This week's show/housekeeping
    12:55 - The Break Down begins: Some more weekend challenges
    23:05 - The return of Through The Breach?
    29:05 - Cool Decks, Inc
    37:59 - The Dive Down begins: Should you concede more or less?
    54:45 - Why concede less?
    1:02:10 - Mulliganning, briefly
    1:06:11 - Learning loops with Lee (McLeod)
    1:34:00 - The Wind Down begins: Would you like to play a game?
    1:46:49 - Wrapping up

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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    Episode 287: Modern Since MH3 & First Bloomburrow Tests Aug 09, 2024
    Show notes

    This week it's a bit of a grab bag — or bags? Or grabs bag? One is the state of Modern since MH3, the other is our first tests with Bloomburrow in Modern and Pioneer. We take a dive through several recent challenges and a whole mess of concerning stats from frequently cited Modern watcher, Anaël Yahi. After that, we take a look at a few Bloomburrow cards in Modern and Pioneer — does Thundertrap Trainer slap? Is Rottenmouth Viper the truth... in Pioneer? We talk about all this and more.

    • Anaël Drops Another Banger
    • Mocked by Bird
    • Only a Snake Can Kill Another Snake

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    • Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store
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    • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

    Timestamps:
    3:51 - Heavy Play is as good as quick pickles
    5:52 - This week's show/housekeeping
    11:01 - The Break Down begins: The current state of Modern
    18:29 - The Modern Super Qualifier
    27:40 - MH3-era paper data breakdown
    41:55 - The Dive Down begins: Bloomburrow in Modern
    42:34 - Mockingbird
    49:17 - Thundertrap Trainer
    55:55 - Innkeeper's Talent
    1:02:22 - Helga, Skittish Seer/Feed the Cycle
    1:10:14 - d00m loves Rottenmouth Viper in Pioneer
    1:26:29 - Wrapping up

    Links from this week's episode:
    Anaël Yahi's Metrics Tweet: https://x.com/AnaelYahi/status/1820337686982369522
    D00mwake's Boros Energy List (Modern): https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/modern-challenge-64-2024-08-0312666568?player=D00mwake#deck_D00mwake
    Izzet by SvenSveeterSven (Modern): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6550302#paper
    Mono Green Scales (Modern): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6553561#paper
    Omnath + Helga by DackFayden (Modern): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6556724#paper
    D00m's Dimir Viper List (Pioneer): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/9nyVhbjTEUW28T2w-JHHEw
    D00m's Golgari Viper List (Pioneer): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/6M6aAGQTNEiUXsJWUaorOA
    D00m's Rakdos Viper List (Pioneer): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Eki38qUUfkaIB9aqTYDwoQ

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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    Episode 286: Diving Into Modern Boros Energy, ft. YungDingo Aug 01, 2024
    Show notes

    Modern Boros Energy has quickly emerged as a Tier 1 Modern deck despite the ongoing menace of Nadu taking over tournaments left and right. On this week's show, The Dive Down is joined by YungDingo to break down how the deck functions, how to sequence its various 1-drops, and the benefits of splashing into black for Mardu Energy.

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    • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

    Timestamps:
    2:56 - A Dingo ate my Heavy Play
    4:40 - This week's episode/housekeeping
    8:55 - The Dive Down begins: A wild Dingo appears!
    17:28 - Inside the Grinder's Studio
    21:52 - What is Boros Energy all about?
    26:20 - The 1-drops
    36:52 - The 2-drops
    51:30 - The 3-drops
    1:08:45 - Interaction
    1:13:40 - The Energy economy
    1:17:42 - The matchups
    1:26:56 - The future of Boros Energy
    1:31:01 - Bye, Dingo!

    Links from this week's episode:
    twitch.tv/yungdingo
    x.com/yungdingomtg
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6540163#paper

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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    Episode 285: The (Rhino) Boyz Are Back in Town & Bloomburrow End Jul 25, 2024
    Show notes

    Someone finally did it... Crashing Footfalls has revealed its beautiful face again in a post-MH3 Modern tournament, so D00mwake and Stan had to try the deck out themselves. Then we share our favorite picks from Bloomburrow in the final week of spoilers for the upcoming set.

    The Break Down: Stan and Devon talk about the same deck again.
    The Dive Down: Dave talks about the same cards again. Shane has the same doubts again.

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    • Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store
    • Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com
    • Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_8LU
    • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

    Timestamps:
    6:00 - Heavy Play, not a camarone
    7:10 - This week's show/housekeeping
    11:01 - The Break Down begins: The rhinos are back in town
    43:44 - The Dive Down begins: Bloomburrow spoilers, part 2
    44:26 - The Infamous Cruelclaw (revisited)/Sunspine Lynx
    49:53 - Osteomancer Adept
    52:36 - Lumra, Bellow of the Woods
    55:04 - Beza, the Bounding Spring (revisited)/Dourport Mage
    1:00:37 - Huskburster Swarm
    1:03:13 - Fountainport
    1:05:21 - Jackdaw Savior
    1:09:34 - Vinereap Mentor
    1:11:10 - Ygra, Eater of All
    1:15:25 - Darkstar Auger
    1:17:54 - Stormsplitter
    1:20:22 - Valley Mightcaller
    1:21:14 - Keen-Eyed Curator
    1:25:28 - Thundertrap Trainer
    1:27:30 - Our picks to click
    1:35:16 - Wrapping up

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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    Episode 284: Nadu Soars at NRG & Seasons of Bloomburrow, pt. 1 Jul 18, 2024
    Show notes

    Oh look, another Modern tournament dominated by Nadu decks! On this week's show, we break down the results from NRG Chicago, which included a Modern 10K and some cheeky side events featuring the rhino boys. Then we dive into our Bloomburrow spoilers.

    • No Surprises, All Alarms
    • Higher Highs for Nadu
    • The Cutest Little Cards Ever

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    • Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store
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    • And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/

    Timestamps:
    3:08 - Heavy Play is anything but bland
    5:13 - This week's show/housekeeping
    9:51 - The Break Down begins: NRG Chicagoland
    26:20 - The MTGO Modern Super Qualifier
    35:21 - The Dive Down begins: Bloomburrow Spoilers begin!
    41:42 - Hidden Grotto
    42:51 - Three Tree City
    46:28 - Heartfire Hero
    49:10 - Into the Floodmaw
    52:13 - Iridescent Vinelasher
    53:46 - Might of the Meek
    55:41 - Valley Mightcaller
    56:51 - Mistbreath Elder
    59:49 - Emberheart Challenger
    1:02:20 - Kitsa, Otterball Elite
    1:06:37 - Brazen Collector/Coruscation Mage
    1:09:33 - Artist's Talent
    1:11:32 - Dawn's Truth
    1:13:13 - Dewdrop Cure
    1:15:33 - Pearl of Wisdom
    1:16:17 - Rottenmouth Viper
    1:18:17 - Huskburster Swarm
    1:20:54 - Ral, Crackling Wit
    1:22:43 - Maha, Its Feathers Night
    1:25:00 - The Season Cycle
    1:27:38 - Mockingbird
    1:29:40 - The Infamous Cruelclaw
    1:31:56 - Beza, The Bounding Spring
    1:35:16 - Wrapping up

    Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?

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