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    The David Guttman Podcast

    The David Guttman Podcast: Where Substance Meets Success
    Join David Guttman, a seasoned entrepreneur with over 30 years of experience and multiple 8- and 9-figure exits, as he redefines success through a holistic lens. This podcast brings you conversations with C-Suite Executives and high-profile leaders who balance professional achievements with integrity, purpose, and an unwavering moral compass.
    Each episode dives deep into actionable insights, life lessons, and authentic mentorship, helping you build not just wealth, but a fulfilling life. From navigating complex business challenges to fostering meaningful relationships and personal growth, David and his guests provide a roadmap for achieving balance and excellence.
    Tune in weekly for thought-provoking discussions that will inspire you to lead with authenticity, create lasting impact, and embrace a well-rounded approach to success.
    🎧 Available on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.

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    #94 Ex-BlackRock Risk Analyst Explains Why Risk Models Lie | Joe Hegener Sep 29, 2026
    Show notes

    I asked Joe Hegner, a PIMCO alum who now runs his own hedge fund, what the pension funds and central banks he advised get wrong, and his answer was not what I expected. He explains how the same portfolio can look safe or dangerous depending on who sets the assumptions, and why the downside he thinks is least likely gets extra weight in his own fund. We also get into the helicopter over Athens that tracked down Greek tax dodgers by their swimming pools, and why he doubts the EU lasts another decade. The moment that stuck with me was his dad, a former Wall Street CEO, telling him right out of college that he knew nothing and needed 10 years first.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro to the show

    01:31 - From philosophy classes to economics

    03:16 - Getting cut from JV lacrosse

    06:20 - His dad's early Wall Street exit

    10:30 - Is college still worth the money

    11:10 - AI tutors at the Alpha School

    16:40 - Why he stopped trusting risk numbers

    22:17 - Why he chose to run a hedge fund

    23:21 - His dad's ten-year rule

    24:59 - Michael Saylor and financial engineering

    26:34 - Blockchain versus crypto as an investment

    29:06 - Rising long bond yields and debt

    33:18 - The swimming pool tax hunt

    37:01 - Could the EU break apart

    40:27 - Where he'd go if things break

    41:06 - Learning my wife is not my mom

    44:36 - A coal shoveler turned company CFO

    48:14 - Longevity, faith and falling birth rates

    50:52 - What he wants his kids to say

    54:43 - Where to connect with Joe


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    #93 How A Mortgage Coach Went From 60 Hour Weeks to 6 | Anthony Marinaccio Sep 22, 2026
    Show notes

    Mortgage consultant Anthony Marinaccio, 23 years in lending and still writing his own loans, sat down with me and hit me with a claim I couldn't shake: he does the same volume of business today in under six hours a week that used to take him sixty. We got into the system behind that, from cutting 253 referral agents down to 14 to the consultant who stopped taking his money and told him he was at the wrong company. But the part that stayed with me was a man who built all of that, coming home at the end of a long day to photograph his own housework as proof, and what it finally took for him to file. He was winning awards and getting written up in Forbes while hating every day of it, and what he did next took almost every referral partner he had with it.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Introduction: Mortgage lending and burnout

    05:03 - Growing up with four sisters

    07:33 - Why he filed for divorce

    10:12 - Proving the work at home

    13:50 - What contempt does to a marriage

    14:39 - Raising daughters around phones

    20:32 - Winning awards and hating it

    21:30 - Realizing he picked the clients

    24:30 - Authenticity as the differentiator

    27:09 - Firing your worst clients

    28:19 - When revenue costs more than it earns

    36:36 - Building a brand people follow

    41:47 - How the consulting process works

    45:12 - Being at the wrong company

    49:35 - Partnering outside real estate agents

    51:17 - What a rate drop does to prices

    52:53 - Cutting the partner list down

    53:55 - Crypto and the mortgage industry

    01:00:46 - Whether AI can replace salespeople

    01:04:22 - Robots and the future of work


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    #92 How A 22-Year-Old Sold 3 Data Centers To Launch A Prop Firm | Sebastian Ness Sep 15, 2026
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    Sebastian Ness, the 25-year-old CEO who built Sure Leverage Funding out of the wreckage of a competitor that went under overnight, sat down with me and hit me with a claim I couldn't shake: some of his traders have strung together 50 or 60 payouts in a row without ever breaching an account. We got into how his risk team catches "reverse hedging," where a trader bets both sides of the same trade across two different platforms, and how his wife's credit card, not his, funded every account he traded before Sure Leverage even existed. But what stayed with me was him telling me, flat out, that two different people broke into his house trying to get into his Bitcoin wallet, and that he still doesn't see the point of holding the coin at all.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro of the Show

    02:59 - Why the MyForexFunds collapse started this business

    04:39 - Would he do it again at 22

    07:48 - Bad trader turned business owner

    09:05 - Choosing a co-founder the right way

    13:44 - Managing payout risk and client trust

    15:03 - Catching KYC fraud and reverse hedging

    16:44 - Sharing fraud data with 70 prop firms

    17:53 - Are trading influencers actually good traders

    20:35 - Futures vs CFDs and where trading is headed

    23:24 - The plan for a future exit

    24:49 - Buying Bitcoin at 16 and losing faith in it

    28:54 - Two break-ins over his Bitcoin wallet

    29:57 - Using AI to run and improve the business

    32:34 - What he actually looks for when hiring

    36:38 - The biggest blind spot for successful men

    48:09 - Product roadmap and the futures launch

    49:14 - Growing the client base to 80 percent US

    52:27 - Where to Find Sebastian Ness/ Sure Leverage Funding


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    #91 How Getting Fired Built MTA Consultancy | Chris Mader Sep 08, 2026
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    He doubled a company's revenue to $150M once. Then he got called into an office and told it was his last day. If that has ever happened to you, you already know the feeling. Chris Mader ran an $85M company to $115M as interim CEO. The board had already promised him the job in writing. Then the founder needed $4M in payroll cuts, and Chris got the call anyway. I asked him how you rebuild after doing it exactly right and still losing the seat. Chris was Player of the Year in the minors. The next year he led his team in every offensive category and still got released. He turned that into MTA Consultancy, built on a rule you will recognize: he will not work for a leader he cannot believe in. You probably cannot walk away from a bad boss tomorrow. Chris built a business so he never has to again.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Introduction: excelling and still getting cut

    00:18 - Choosing baseball over football as a kid

    03:55 - Recruited to Rollins College against his will

    06:29 - Make the adjustment: Coach Boyd Coffee

    13:11 - Drafted 49th round, toughest out over Derek Jeter

    16:07 - Released after leading the team in every stat

    19:27 - Walking away from baseball crying at 25

    22:37 - Baseball is not a meritocracy

    26:02 - Rebuilding identity through sales

    28:37 - Thirty years scaling companies to $115M

    31:06 - Told he did nothing wrong, never works for anyone again

    34:25 - Starting MTA Consultancy at 52

    38:44 - Servant leadership, curiosity and humility

    45:42 - How much of the CEO job is therapy

    46:38 - Why 97.5 percent of people resist change

    56:16 - Forty clients, only three that did not work

    57:09 - Scaling toward $1M with an EA and AI

    1:04:24 - Mentorship versus coaching versus discipline

    1:08:00 - Why 80 percent of men say yes and half the women do

    1:10:52 - Pick your boss, not the job


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    #90 The Cornell MBA Who Says The Paper On The Wall Did Nothing | Joshua Lindsey Sep 01, 2026
    Show notes

    I tore up my Wharton MBA on camera a couple of months ago, so I was curious what Joshua Lindsey would say about his. He was making 50 thousand dollars a week at 25, had already helped put close to 30,000 ATMs across the Western United States, and then went back and paid his own way through an Ivy League executive program at 28. He hung the paper on the wall and told me he still isn't sure it did anything for him beyond letting him tell his friends he'd done something too. We get into how he went zero to 12 million in his first year on his own, what it cost him when his partners went rogue, and why he thinks a first-time entrepreneur is better off buying a business than starting one. If you're weighing a degree against a few years of actually doing the work, start here.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Introduction: what a kick in the teeth teaches you

    01:42 - Furniture stores and a feast-or-famine childhood

    02:12 - Selling Scout-O-Rama tickets door to door

    03:34 - The fitness sales mentor who taught him to ask questions

    04:30 - Why he still loves sitting through a timeshare pitch

    07:22 - The promise he made himself at 26 about predatory selling

    09:43 - Value systems, ethical shortcuts and top-line pressure

    12:16 - The reverse merger he says he only half earned

    13:12 - 30,000 ATMs across the Western United States

    14:06 - Tearing up a Wharton MBA on camera

    14:48 - The Cornell executive program and the paper on the wall

    17:41 - Begging his daughter not to go to college

    18:16 - Fifty thousand to travel or two hundred thousand in Bitcoin

    20:17 - Informational interviewing and the dietitian test

    22:55 - The 17-year-old AI CEO and the cop who asked for a job

    25:48 - Whether the alumni network is still worth anything

    28:11 - Why 75 percent of his developer hires are self-taught

    30:45 - Zero to 12 million in the first year

    34:10 - Fifty thousand a week at 25 and the partners who went rogue

    39:20 - Telling a real friendship from a positioning one

    42:20 - The two founders who insisted on giving him equity

    48:33 - Buying a business versus starting one from scratch

    52:44 - True equity for every employee, four-year vesting, one-year cliff

    55:17 - The businesses under 20 million with no budget at all

    57:44 - The advice three billionaires gave instead of a business plan

    1:02:20 - The blind spot successful men share

    1:05:10 - Ten years without an unkind word

    1:07:32 - Why he enjoys conflict in conversation


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    #89 Why Everything Around You Is Quietly Building Who You Are | Ruh Fahim Aug 25, 2026
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    When Ruh Fahim sat across from me, every blood panel he'd ever taken came back "fine," yet he'd once had brain fog so bad he couldn't finish a sentence. We got into how the real problem wasn't in his labs but in the walls of his house, the food on his plate, and a story he'd carried since childhood. It's one of the clearest cases I've heard for why no one will ever care about your health more than you do.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - ​Intro of Show

    02:29 - Afghanistan to a racist Canadian town

    03:38 - Pushed into medicine by his father

    05:37 - Mold, gut infection, and stress

    07:26 - Why three doctors get it wrong

    11:25 - The 80/20 rule and ownership

    13:01 - A shoulder that kept dislocating

    14:10 - Telling his father he quit medicine

    16:21 - The family you do not choose

    24:00 - Carnivore, keto, testing everything

    28:00 - Guilt stored as ulcerative colitis

    29:57 - A society that is not mentally healthy

    34:54 - The racist kid on the patio

    38:33 - Survival mode, bread and rice

    41:18 - DMT and accepting his own death

    43:38 - Psilocybin and the prediction engine

    47:02 - Identity as skin versus clothing

    50:50 - Meeting Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

    55:38 - Observer versus participant

    58:09 - Who he refuses to coach

    1:00:48 - Billion Body and final message


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    #88 How A 20-Year-Old With No Degree Bought An Aston Martin In Cash | Frank Lopinski Aug 18, 2026
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    In this episode, I talked with Frank Lipinski, who bet on himself instead of college, built real wealth in crypto by twenty, and learned that money solves far fewer problems than most young men assume. We break down the simple twenty-minute-a-day habit that can lift you into the top 5% at almost anything, the brutal math that makes college one of the worst investments around, and the dating illusions guys cling to. He also shares the loss of his father, gone just six weeks after diagnosis when Frank was nineteen, and how it changed the way he values time, money, and everything in between.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro of Show

    01:12 - Meet Frank Lipinski

    01:59 - Why he skipped college

    04:00 - The FaZe house that inspired him

    05:00 - Failed businesses and a Facebook ban

    07:07 - Conflict with his dad

    09:30 - Discovering crypto in 2017

    12:00 - Why college is the worst ROI

    13:46 - AI, jobs, and the talent stack

    17:45 - Taking a year off after crypto

    23:43 - Moving to Scottsdale

    25:10 - Med spa business and dating

    33:40 - The dating market truth

    46:27 - Losing his father at 19

    53:01 - Marriage, kids, and tradeoffs

    59:38 - Rapid-fire questions

    1:01:13 - Why success can make you miserable


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    #87 What Wrestling Teaches You In Business | Tom Ryan Aug 11, 2026
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    Ohio State head wrestling coach Tom Ryan, the man who brought the Buckeyes their first national title, sat down with me and hit me with a claim I couldn't shake: hand him almost any seventh grader, and if that kid fully commits, he'll be winning 75% of the time by his senior year. We got into the system behind that, from the "marbles in a jar" principle to walking on at Iowa when Dan Gable didn't even know his name. But the part that stayed with me was how a man nothing in wrestling could break found his way through the hardest loss a parent can face, and the "chosen suffering" philosophy that carried him.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro of Show

    01:23 - Meeting at Iowa wrestling camp, 1983

    05:04 - Cut from basketball, finding wrestling

    08:38 - Jay Robinson and 120 workouts in 30 days

    09:35 - Why wrestling rewards preparation

    10:43 - The marbles-in-a-jar principle

    11:35 - Leaving a full ride at Syracuse

    17:28 - Walking on at Iowa, Gable, the Steiners

    22:13 - First head job at Hofstra, two scholarships

    26:31 - Why great coaches were great wrestlers

    29:21 - The three C's: competence, connection, character

    31:32 - Losing his five-year-old son

    35:41 - Ohio State as a new beginning

    45:35 - Wrestling as training for business and life

    50:07 - Recruiting: green flags and red flags

    52:20 - Logan Stieber and emotional control

    55:06 - Writing "Chosen Suffering"

    1:00:07 - Suffering as a synonym for love

    1:04:07 - The research behind his faith

    1:11:22 - Competing with a hand sewn shut


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    #86 Choose Your Suffering Before It Chooses You |Kyle Vadis & Chase Pettey Aug 04, 2026
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    I always thought the thing keeping people stuck was their circumstances, until I realized most of us are the wardens of our own prison, holding the keys the whole time. In this one, I sat down with Kyle and Chase to get honest about victim mentality, why 20 minutes a day can put you in the top 5% at anything, and the blind spots that quietly wreck successful people. If you've been waiting for something outside you to change, this is the conversation I wish I'd had at 30.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro of Show

    01:04 - Meeting Kyle and Chase

    02:37 - How they met doing ayahuasca

    03:16 - How Kyle tracked David down

    05:01 - Why your generation feels stuck

    07:13 - Losing a father and rebuilding identity

    10:10 - A blacked-out childhood and the door

    13:54 - Is victim mentality innate or a choice

    17:38 - Autonomy and taking back control

    19:27 - Vulnerability is not complaining

    21:58 - Don't leave me your monkeys

    22:12 - Intentionality and the 20-minute rule

    26:46 - Intention paired with competence

    29:40 - The warden of your own prison

    31:34 - Pull your failures forward

    34:51 - Choose your suffering

    35:00 - Find 10 people to lose to

    38:08 - The freedom of no attachment

    40:52 - The two biggest blind spots for men

    46:30 - Wisdom is caught, not taught

    48:31 - Radical honesty in relationships

    54:52 - Outcome-independence and wanting vs needing

    57:54 - Relationships are never static

    1:02:25 - Loving who someone is becoming

    1:05:37 - Committing only to honesty

    1:11:00 - Legacy and dying trying


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    #85 How Rob Koll Built a Wrestling Dynasty With No Money | Rob Koll Jul 28, 2026
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    Rob Koll is one of the winningest coaches in college wrestling history, and he lived inside the Foxcatcher mansion with John du Pont before the murder that shocked the sport. In this one, he told me things I've never heard him say publicly: the gunshots in the walls, why he finally left, and how he built a dynasty at a school that gave zero scholarships. This might be the most open conversation I've ever had on the show.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro of Show

    01:13 - Welcome and Rob Koll's record

    02:30 - Wrestling royalty and a father's war

    06:01 - Leading by example and 30 Acts of Kindness

    07:05 - Why the best wrestlers become coaches

    09:25 - Winning at Cornell with no scholarships

    11:28 - Getting recruits into the Ivy League

    14:00 - Inheriting the program from Jack Spates

    16:29 - Realizing fundraising was everything

    19:56 - The $5,000 check that changed his approach

    21:55 - Growing up in his father's shadow

    23:56 - Why he turned down Penn State

    26:08 - Where his coaching style came from

    27:29 - Coaching his own sons

    30:27 - Why preparation wins most of the time

    32:35 - Recruiting great kids vs good kids

    36:03 - Green flags and red flags in recruiting

    39:39 - Cockiness as a mask for insecurity

    40:29 - Learning to read in third grade

    43:46 - The 10 percent pay cut on day one

    47:08 - Recruiting parents, not kids

    50:11 - Stanford, NIL and the transfer portal

    55:45 - Is Penn State's dominance good for the sport

    58:26 - Why he left Stanford

    1:00:05 - Never worked a day in his life

    1:04:00 - What he wants to be remembered for

    1:05:53 - Over-medicating young athletes

    1:08:37 - Going 5-1 at Worlds and placing fifth

    1:11:22 - Inside Foxcatcher with John du Pont

    1:19:22 - Surrounding yourself with the right people

    1:24:44 - Troy Nickerson and his dying father

    1:32:00 - Where to follow UNC wrestling


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