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    The Exit Five Podcast

    The #1 resource for B2B marketing professionals. Each week, hosts Dave Gerhardt and Dasha Shakov sit down with B2B marketers to break down everything from strategy and leadership to the channels and tactics that drive growth, plus what it takes to build a career in marketing. You’ll find real ideas you can put to work right away, and the gut check and inspiration to keep getting better at your job.

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    #217: Marketing Leadership | Why Product Marketing is the Foundation of Great Marketing Leadership with Jessica Andrews, VP of Marketing at Copper Feb 06, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, Matt Carnevale sits down with Jessica Andrews, VP of Marketing at Copper, a CRM built specifically for agencies, consultancies, and media companies, designed to help relationship-driven businesses find ideal clients, win new business, manage projects, and nurture customer relationships. The two discuss Jessica’s journey from Senior Product Marketing Manager to VP of Marketing, how she’s navigated imposter syndrome, and her strategies for leading a successful marketing team.

    Matt and Jessica cover:

    • Strategies for shifting from IC to a marketing leadership role
    • Why product marketing is the foundation of great marketing
    • How product marketers can position themselves for leadership

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Introduction to Jessica
    • (00:44) - - Transitioning from product marketing to VP of marketing
    • (04:41) - - Dealing with imposter syndrome and learning to trust your instincts
    • (07:24) - - The shift from execution to strategy in a leadership role
    • (09:06) - - Why taking time to think is crucial for marketing leaders
    • (10:29) - - The power of networking and learning from other marketing leaders
    • (12:30) - - How talking to agencies helped shape Copper’s marketing strategy
    • (13:49) - - Why product marketing is the foundation of great marketing
    • (15:28) - - The importance of cross-functional alignment in marketing leadership
    • (18:06) - - Understanding the mindset of sales teams and how to collaborate effectively
    • (21:00) - - The challenge of getting buy-in for product marketing initiatives
    • (24:26) - - Balancing being a strategic partner vs. an order taker
    • (27:06) - - How to respond to last-minute requests and set expectations
    • (29:28) - - Strategies for building strong relationships with sales and product teams
    • (32:40) - - How to become T-shaped and prepare for marketing leadership
    • (34:58) - - Learning demand gen and paid ads
    • (37:08) - - Why marketing leaders need to understand revenue and business impact
    • (39:16) - - Advice for product marketers who want to grow into leadership
    • (40:02) - - Closing thoughts and final takeaways

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #216: Website Teardown | How to Nail your B2B Pricing Page with Emily Kramer (Co-Founder & Advisor of MKT1), Bill Wilson (CEO & Founder of Pace Pricing), and Karan Sood (Director Sales Operations at Rakuten Kobo) Feb 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Is there anything more terrifying for a marketer than having to work on the pricing page? How do you handle packaging, listing out features, and deciding whether to put the actual price, or “contact sales”?

    In this session from our Ultimate Roast of B2B Pricing Pages, Emily Kramer (Co-Founder & Advisor of MKT1), Bill Wilson (CEO & Founder of Pace Pricing), and Karan Sood (Director Sales Operations at Rakuten Kobo) share their secrets to a killer B2B pricing page. Then, they do a live teardown of real pricing pages that you can learn from.

    Emily, Bill, and Karan also cover:

    • How to make your pricing page clear and transparent
    • The most common mistakes SaaS companies make with pricing
    • How to structure pricing tiers and communicate value effectively

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Introduction to Bill, Emily, and Karan
    • (01:16) - - Why pricing pages are critical to conversions
    • (03:29) - - The FAST framework
    • (05:27) - - The four key functions of a pricing page
    • (09:20) - - Common mistakes companies make with pricing page clarity
    • (12:35) - - The role of social proof and risk reversal in building trust
    • (14:48) - - Should B2B companies display pricing on their website?
    • (17:22) - - How to structure pricing tiers for clarity and conversion
    • (19:39) - - Live pricing page roast: Mention
    • (30:38) - - Live pricing page roast: Flagsmith
    • (38:51) - - Live pricing page roast: Contact Monkey
    • (42:05) - - Why request pricing forms create unnecessary friction
    • (44:26) - - Should you display pricing if your competitors don’t?
    • (46:28) - - The importance of value-based pricing in B2B
    • (50:54) - - Final takeaways and recommendations

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #215: Social | LinkedIn Profile Best Practices for 2025 with Kanika Sharma, Founder of Copywriting Teardowns Jan 30, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, Matt Carnevale sits down with Kanika Sharma, a conversion page copywriter and Founder of Copywriting Teardowns. Kanika audited over 100 LinkedIn profiles in the Exit Five community and shares her biggest takeaways on how marketers can optimize their profiles to attract the right audience and drive conversions.

    Matt and Kanika cover:

    • Why your LinkedIn profile should be treated like a landing page
    • The biggest mistakes B2B marketers make with their LinkedIn presence
    • How to structure your profile for visibility, engagement, and inbound opportunities

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro to Kanika
    • (02:03) - - Why optimizing your LinkedIn profile is so important
    • (05:51) - - Your LinkedIn profile functions like a landing page
    • (07:44) - - Optimizing your LinkedIn cover image
    • (09:26) - - Common mistakes in LinkedIn profile branding and messaging
    • (10:46) - - The role of social proof and credibility in your LinkedIn profile
    • (12:30) - - How to craft a compelling LinkedIn headline
    • (19:12) - - How to use personalized CTAs and custom LinkedIn buttons
    • (29:20) - - Why business leaders should prioritize their LinkedIn presence
    • (32:33) - - Balancing strong copy and good design for credibility
    • (34:24) - - Optimizing the LinkedIn Featured section
    • (41:21) - - How to turn The Experience section and About section into a conversion tool
    • (46:53) - - How often should you update your LinkedIn profile?
    • (49:31) - - Final takeaways

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #214: Q&A with Dave | Brand vs. Demand, Personality In Your Marketing, and The Most Successful B2B Marketing Campaigns Jan 27, 2025
    Show notes

    In this solo episode, Dave shares his POV on marketing with answers to a bunch of burning questions, including:

    • Balancing Brand vs. Demand
    • Working with the sales team vs. serving customers
    • How to inject personality into your brand
    • The most successful marketing campaigns Dave was a part of in his career
    • How to plan and brainstorm good marketing ideas
    • The biggest mistake marketing teams make
    • How to structure a marketing team
    • How did you know it was the right time to start your own company?
    • How to best differentiate in a crowded competitive market with similar feature offerings

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro to Dave
    • (02:49) - - Balancing brand, demand, and customer-centricity in marketing
    • (05:27) - - Infusing personality into marketing
    • (09:47) - - Most successful marketing campaigns and why they worked
    • (17:09) - - The concept of marketable moments and creating momentum
    • (19:11) - - Marketing at Drift and Privy
    • (21:05) - - How to plan and brainstorm campaign ideas
    • (24:06) - - Biggest mistakes marketing teams make
    • (25:38) - - Structuring marketing teams for different business needs
    • (26:25) - - The journey to starting Exit Five as a company
    • (28:48) - - Brand marketing versus demand marketing for scaling startups
    • (31:26) - - Differentiating positioning in a crowded market
    • (34:52) - - Closing thoughts

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #213: Community | B2B Community Growth Strategies with Matthew Carnevale on the Direct Podcast Jan 23, 2025
    Show notes

    This episode is from the Direct podcast hosted by Corrina Owens (Fractional ABM consultant) and Taylor Young (Director of Strategy, Professional Services at DemandScience). Corrina and Taylor sit down with Exit Five’s Head of Community, Matthew Carnevale, to discuss his journey in scaling the Exit Five community to over 5,000 members. They dive into engagement strategies, fostering connections, and creating value-driven programming for B2B marketers.

    Corrina, Taylor, and Matthew cover:

    • How to seed a community with experts and drive engagement
    • The role of events and content in fostering member participation
    • Balancing long-term community growth with short-term wins

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro to Matt
    • (01:00) - - Defining community and the difference between building community and a community
    • (03:00) - - Why Exit Five moved to a gated Circle community
    • (05:00) - - How Exit Five engages members and drives meaningful engagement
    • (08:00) - - Scaling community management with member contributions
    • (12:00) - - Balancing digital and in-person community strategies
    • (14:00) - - Advice for teams without a founder-led social presence
    • (15:00) - - Creating audience-first media assets to build community
    • (17:00) - - Balancing short-term wins with long-term community goals
    • (22:00) - - Tracking engagement and measuring community success
    • (25:00) - - First steps for starting a community
    • (30:00) - - Closing advice

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #212: Marketing Leadership | Lessons for First-Time Marketing Leaders with Michael Cole, SVP of Everflow Jan 21, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, Dave sits down with Michael Cole, SVP of Marketing at Everflow, a partner marketing platform that helps companies manage referral and affiliate programs. Michael discusses his journey from being Everflow’s first marketing hire to leading a marketing team of 16, and shares strategies for building a marketing function from the ground up.

    Dave and Michael cover:

    • How Everflow turns happy customers into referral partners
    • What it’s like to be a first-time marketing leader
    • Building a marketing function from scratch

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Introduction to Michael
    • (04:37) - - Michael’s journey to marketing leadership
    • (09:24) - - Understanding company growth before developing your strategy
    • (12:28) - - Turning happy customers into referrals
    • (16:33) - - Scaling a successful team
    • (21:53) - - Referrals vs. paid ads
    • (26:10) - - Organic vs. paid strategies
    • (28:37) - - Growing organically and spreading through word-of-mouth
    • (30:23) - - Finding complementary business partnerships
    • (36:36) - - Enhancing content creation
    • (39:36) - - Delegation and accountability in a strong team
    • (40:35) - - Strategizing for growth
    • (43:45) - - Closing remarks

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #211: Growth | The Future of GTM and Sustainable Growth with Chris Walker, CEO at Passetto Jan 16, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, Dave is joined by Chris Walker, CEO of Passetto, and a prominent voice on LinkedIn, where he has been pushing the boundaries of B2B marketing for years. Chris shares actionable insights and tactics on social media strategy, what has changed in marketing over the last five years, and how to build effective feedback loops and flywheels.

    Dave and Chris also cover:

    • The future of GTM and the evolving role of the CMO
    • Why sustainable growth is the only path forward
    • The transformative role AI will play in B2B marketing

    Timestamps

    • (00:53) - - Intro to Chris Walker
    • (02:40) - - Managing different perspectives on social media
    • (07:12) - - The ROI of podcasts and social media engagement
    • (12:35) - - Why real-time feedback loops are valuable
    • (18:10) - - Shifting from "growth at all costs" to sustainable growth
    • (24:00) - - Rethinking marketing measurement and ROI
    • (30:10) - - Splitting marketing teams: strategy vs. pipeline creation
    • (37:15) - - How AI is reshaping B2B marketing teams
    • (45:20) - - Chris’s approach to creativity and focus
    • (50:05) - - Predictions for the future of B2B marketing
    • (51:43) - - Outro

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #210: Strategy | Building a Marketing Operating System with the Team at Tenon (Ben Person, CEO & Co-Founder, Jessica Skovira, VP Marketing, & Hannak Rankin, Growth Marketing Manager) Jan 13, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, Dave is joined by the team at Tenon to go behind the scenes of B2B marketing. They talk about the marketing operating system -- specifically: how to organize your 2025 campaigns, align your team, and stay laser-focused on what matters most. You’ll learn how top marketers are using work management tactics to simplify the complexity, free up time for high-value work, and boost team performance—all while showing your boss the real impact of marketing.

    Dave and the Tenon team cover:

    • The importance of aligning marketing goals with overarching business objectives to drive meaningful results
    • How to create a marketing operating system that prioritizes clarity, efficiency, and flexibility
    • Practical frameworks and templates for planning campaigns, managing tasks, and adapting to company needs and changes

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro to the Tenon Team
    • (03:57) - - How to Think About Your Marketing Strategy Challenges
    • (09:53) - - Framework for Building a Marketing Operating System
    • (14:31) - - Why You Should Align Marketing with Business Goals
    • (17:25) - - How to Ensure Campaign Alignment with Marketing Goals
    • (21:52) - - Why Proactive Planning Is Key
    • (26:43) - - How to Simplify Your Marketing Processes
    • (33:45) - - Leadership Strategies
    • (38:11) - - Tenon’s Tools for Success
    • (42:26) - - Aligning Brand Goals and Business Objectives

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #209: Content | B2B Content Strategy, Distribution Tactics, and Organic Social with Ross Simmonds, Founder and CEO at Foundation & Distribution.ai Jan 09, 2025
    Show notes

    Dave is joined by Ross Simmonds. Ross is the Founder & CEO of Foundation, a content marketing agency that strategizes, distributes, and optimizes content for some of the most successful SaaS companies in the world and works as partners for multiple publicly traded cloud companies that have redefined entire industries.

    They share lessons they both learned on their content journeys and discuss things like:

    • Prioritizing search as a distribution channel
    • Why social followers are not a vanity metric
    • Using and enabling the sales team for content distribution
    • How to repurpose your most popular content


    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro
    • (00:01) - - Underrated Content Strategy for B2B
    • (00:16) - - SERP and Mindshare Domination
    • (00:16) - - ChatGPT and Closing Thoughts
    • (00:21) - - Search as a Distribution Channel
    • (00:21) - - Why We're Doubling Down on X
    • (00:36) - - Adjusting Your Tone with the Times
    • (00:41) - - Why Followers Aren't a Vanity Metric
    • (00:42) - - How to Repurpose Popular Organic Social Content
    • (00:56) - - An Easy Content Distribution Tactic
    • (00:57) - - The Sales Team as a Distribution Channel

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    #208: Drive | How To Build A B2B Community with Dan Cmejla, B2B Community Expert Jan 06, 2025
    Show notes

    This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Dan Cmejla, B2B Community Expert and former VP of Community at Apollo and Chili Piper, shared actionable frameworks and three phases for building impactful B2B communities that drive brand growth and customer engagement.

    Dan covers:

    • How community marketing transforms brands by turning customers into primary distribution points for your story.
    • Why it’s important to map influence spaces and leverage customer relationships.
    • Strategies to build a scalable advocacy journey that turns customer love into measurable business outcomes.

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro to Dan
    • (05:12) - - Community Marketing Transforms Brands
    • (08:20) - - Defining “Community” and “Community Marketing”
    • (10:00) - - Community Phase 1: Build Baseline Presence Across Spaces that Hold Relevant Influence
    • (21:00) - - Community Phase 2: Differentiate Presence Everywhere by Building more Brand Distribution Points
    • (32:30) - - Community Phase 3: Build Amazing Spaces That Hold Influence
    • (33:30) - - How to Determine your Community Strategy?
    • (34:00) - - How to Evangelize Across Communities?
    • (35:00) - - Q&A

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    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


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