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DCS Lab: Schnitzel Take 2 Apr 09, 2026

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Dave wasn't thrilled with the results of his last take on schnitzel with a salsa-seca crust, so it's time to revise.
This time, Dave takes schnitzel inspired by a Los Angeles restaurant and makes it even more Los Angeles-inspired by making it gluten-free.
He also makes a delicious lemon puree as a pairing, as well as crispy cabbage, as one might see with a tonkatsu. Dave makes a bulldog sauce as well.
Let's see if this version is up to Dave's standards and is ready to be served to our upcoming guest, Mina Kimes.
Watch Dave's first attempt at salsa-seca schnitzel: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ciFvplWyPnEtb7ucguQaZ?si=Pt3j-InoTtyhe7E6i_jCdQ
Watch our cabbage-and-more-filled mandu guk with Eric Nam ep: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1fk34wjSON8AF3N2STwKa4?si=b3bade9577d344d9
Watch our lemony episode with Marc Johnson: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1e8dKopMUm4EXSrQErwcII?si=Fl5wwWJkSuib2R0JlbTl_g
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Tteok Mandu Guk, Traitors, and Being Korean American Today with Eric Nam Apr 06, 2026

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It's a steaming hot day, but Dave makes a celebratory dish of tteok mandu guk, a Korean rice cake and dumpling soup, for his guest, singer and actor Eric Nam.
They discuss being Korean American today and how much has changed since they were young, their Korean language proficiency, and, of course, Eric's recent stint on Traitors.
Dave and Eric talk about their favorite Korean foods, how great banchan is, and why the dishes of gimbap and hoe might take off in the future.
Find Eric Nam on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericnam
Find Eric Nam on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericnam
Listen to Eric Nam: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2FLqlgckDKdmpBrvLAT5BM
Learn more about Sun Nong Dan: https://sunnongdanusa.com/
Watch Eric on Traitors: https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/the-traitors
Watch Chef Edward Lee on Culinary Class Wars: https://www.netflix.com/title/81728365
Learn more about the Yonsei Korean Language Institute: https://www.yskli.com/course.php?mid=E01_01
Check out The Sopranos: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141842/
Check out Avatar: The Last Airbender: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417299/
Learn more about Super Peach: https://www.momofuku.com/restaurants/super-peach
Learn more about Bibigo: https://www.bibigousa.com/
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Braised Tofu, A5 Wagyu Steak, Aging, and Laughter with Joel McHale Apr 02, 2026

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Dave cooks a protein-focused dish for a "master of meat": actor, comedian, & host Joel McHale...but Dave doesn't cook red meat like Joel may be used to.

After having some of Dave's delicious Wu's Garden-inspired braised tofu, Joel hops (literally) into the kitchen to make a gorgeous Miyazaki A5 wagyu steak.

Amongst the cooking, Dave and Joel debate how often you should eat meat, talk about getting older and their health, and reveal why some people call Joel's home "Crazy House" (Hint: Joel likes knives. A lot.).

Follow Joel McHale on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joelmchale/
Check out House of Villains: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26695859/
Check out Animal Control: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21376524/
Check out The 1% Club: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29797830/
Check out Crime Scene Kitchen: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14409846/?ref_=tturv_ov_bk
Check out Scream 7: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27047903/
Learn more about Aroma Cafe: https://www.aromacoffeeandtea.com/
Watch Dinner Time Live for the episode with Joel McHale and Harvey Guillén: https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864
Learn more about GoRuck: https://www.goruck.com/
Learn more about McCall's: https://www.mccallsmeatandfish.com/
Listen to Fat Boys: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3537Phr9t8GWkY2GtxDpnt?si=niNJQ7eaT6SM9kK8UXMGxQ
Learn more about Koda Farms: https://www.kodafarms.com/
Learn more about El Gaucho Seattle: https://elgaucho.com/seattle/
Learn more about Troisgros: https://www.troisgros.fr/en/
Learn more about Regalis Foods: https://www.regalisfoods.com/
Learn more about Craft: https://www.craftrestaurant.com/
Learn more about Moo's Craft BBQ: https://www.mooscraftbbq.com/
Check out Truffle Boy: My Unexpected Journey Through the Exotic Food Underground by Ian Purkayastha: https://amzn.to/4lMBZuR
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Hot and Sour Egg Drop Soup, Cooking with Lemons, and Iterating on Dishes with Marc Johnson Mar 30, 2026

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Dave completes his Greek avgolemono-to-Chinese sour egg drop soup journey with a final iteration of lemony chicken soup. He makes it for a friend of the show, culinary consultant on Dinner Time Live, Marc Johnson.
Marc and Dave talk about the process of getting a dish from its initial to its final version, how they met, Marc's career path, and Marc's recent marathon.
They also compare their different ways of thinking about food and how they develop dishes when faced with constraints.
Watch Dinner Time Live: https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864
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Learn more about WING: https://wingrestaurant.hk/
Learn more about Barbs B Q: https://www.barbsbq.com/
Learn more about Black's BBQ: https://www.blacksbbq.com/
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DCS Creative Lab: Sour Egg Drop Soup and Tteok Mandu Guk Mar 26, 2026

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In this DCS Creative Lab session, Dave tests two dishes that will make their way to the counter soon for future guests.
Dave further iterates on a dish he served to Chris Bianco, the Greek lemon-and-chicken-based avgolemono. Now, he's taking it to China for a version of sour egg drop soup.
Dave also pivots a dish to an impromptu tteok mandu guk, a Korean rice cake and dumpling soup.
How will these dishes turn out? Only one way to find out!
Watch our previous episode with avgolemono served for Chris Bianco: https://open.spotify.com/episode/21y5QlRQzEEM3yliX9jaWU?si=5lr9eevGST6RB_Y0Ae2ZoA

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Avgolemono, Chicken and Rice, and Caesar Salad With Chris Bianco Mar 23, 2026

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Dave tries his hand at a Greek dish, avgolemono, and turns it into 3 dishes for a surprise drop-in guest, chef-owner of BIANCO restaurants, Chris Bianco.

They talk about pressure cookers, the ultimate Italian soups, and lemon-forward food, amongst other topics.

Dave finishes with an idea to take this dish from Greece to another country in a future episode.

Learn more about Bianco: https://www.pizzeriabianco.com/

Host: Dave Chang

Guests: Chris Bianco

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer, Noelle Cornelio

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Jake Loskutoff

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DCS Creative Lab: Braised Tofu and Schnitzel Mar 19, 2026

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On this DCS Creative Lab, Dave tests dishes that might make their way to the counter soon for future guests.

He tests out a braised tofu dish that he plans to serve to a big carnivore. Dave also tests out a chicken schnitzel based on an L.A. hot spot, but with his own salsa-seca-inspired twist.

Find out how each dish turns out, and tune in to upcoming episodes to see how he changed and improved the dishes in their next iterations.

Watch Dinner Time Live: https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864

Watch Dave's win (with Mina Kimes's help) on 'Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tmkOI6bWKs

Watch the episode Dave mentions of 'Celebrity Feud': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpiOu1DV3rs

Learn more about Mei Xin Restaurant Yokohama: https://www.hotpepper.jp/strJ001260607/

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Host: Dave Chang

Guests: Chris Ying, Producer David Meyer

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer, Noelle Cornelio

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Jake Loskutoff

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The Best French Fries at Home, New Mexico Green Chile Stew, and Food Science With Chef Chris Young Mar 16, 2026

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Dave makes a version of New Mexico green chile stew for his friend, chef and scientist Chris Young.

Chris also walks Dave through how to make the best french fries at home—from the freezer!

Dave and Chris talk about their mindsets regarding the intersection of food and science, what they look for in restaurants now that they're older, and taking creative risks.

Learn more about Chris Young Cooks: https://chrisyoungcooks.com/

Watch Chris Young's videos on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisYoungCooks

Watch Chris' soufflé video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5u9UzZnEU&t=394s

Learn more about Combustion Inc: https://combustion.inc/

Learn more about Modernist Cuisine: https://modernistcuisine.com/books/modernist-cuisine/

Learn more about The Fat Duck: https://thefatduck.co.uk/

Check out The Fat Duck cookbook: https://amzn.to/40mo19d

Check out Harold McGee's book On Food and Cooking: https://amzn.to/4rp2NlS

Learn more about Tire Shop Taqueria: https://www.yelp.com/biz/tire-shop-taqueria-los-angeles

Learn more about Frontier Restaurant: https://www.frontierrestaurant.com/

Learn more about Sushi Sonagi: https://www.exploretock.com/sushi-sonagi-gardena/

Learn more about Arpège: https://www.alain-passard.com/en/

Check out Heston's Blumenthal's perfect French fry recipe in 'Pursuit of Perfection': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCB9jIpNGzY

Learn more about Morton's: https://www.mortons.com/

Learn more about Joe's Stone Crab: https://joesstonecrab.com/

Host: Dave Chang

Guest: Chris Young

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Abby Zidonis, Marcus Yasui, Michael Delgado, Elizabeth Styles

Editor: Jake Loskutoff

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Oxtails, "Chicken 66," and Science With Krishna Choudhary, PhD, and Lester Nare of the From First Principles Podcast Mar 12, 2026

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Dave makes Jamaican oxtails and "Chicken 66," an amalgamation of Chicken 65 and chilli chicken, for two smart guests: Lester Nare and physicist Krishna Choudhary, cohosts of one of his favorite podcasts, From First Principles.

They talk about how they began their journeys in science, formed a friendship, and found a podcast format that works for both them and the layperson listener.

They also discuss why science is important overall, Dave's unified theory of deliciousness, fresh spices versus ground, and, of course, MSG.

Check out From First Principles: https://www.ffppod.com/

Check out From First Principles' double-slit episode: https://www.ffppod.com/episodes/ep3

Read Dave's "Unified Theory of Deliciousness" article: https://www.wired.com/2016/07/chef-david-chang-on-deliciousness/

Learn more about Diamond Crystal salt: https://www.diamondcrystalsalt.com/kosher-salt

Learn more about Ajinomoto MSG: https://www.ajinomoto.com/

Learn more about Accent: https://accentflavor.com/product/flavor-enhancer/

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Host: Dave Chang

Guests: Lester Nare, Krishna Choudary

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Abby Zidonis, Marcus Yasui, Michael Delgado, Elizabeth Styles

Editor: Jake Loskutoff

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Succotash Meets Spätzle, Doing Media as a Chef, and Dave's Favorite Chili Mar 09, 2026

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Dave talks about his first experiences with TV and media as a chef and how that indirectly led to Lucky Peach.

Dave then MacGyver's off-the-cuff, making a dish of succotash and spätzle, and inadvertently finding a cultural link between them and Brunswick stew.

He finishes by answering an Ask Dave about his favorite chili pepper.

Learn more about Fallow UK: https://fallowrestaurant.com/

Watch our episode with Chef Jeremy Fox: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5hiONAYCjxCjAhK20CtWdd?si=hsiDb0NvQ4q_p0nzeqU05A

Learn more about Benu: https://www.benusf.com/

Learn more about Ana Sortun's Oleana: https://www.oleanarestaurant.com/

Learn more about Via Carota: https://www.viacarota.com/

Learn more about Fat Duck: https://thefatduck.co.uk/

Learn more about Super Peach: https://www.momofuku.com/restaurants/super-peach

Learn more about Kato: https://www.katorestaurant.com/

Watch The Mind of a Chef: https://www.pbs.org/show/mind-chef/

Watch In Search of Perfection: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1134897/

Learn more about Benton's: https://shop.bentonscountryham.com

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Host: Dave Chang

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Abby Zidonis, Marcus Yasui, Michael Delgado, Elizabeth Styles

Editor: Jake Loskutoff

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