The CyberCall Podcast

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Risk, Revenue, and Responsibility: The vCISO’s Real Job Jul 14, 2025

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In this episode of The CyberCall, we're cutting through the noise and rethinking the true purpose of the vCISO role. It’s not just about frameworks, policies, and tech stacks, it’s about tying risk to business outcomes (risk to revenue).

The vCISO’s true value goes way beyond compliance checklists and technical jargon; it’s about being a business partner/enabler, protecting critical revenue streams, and building executive trust.
Leading vCISOs start every client conversation by asking: How does this business make money? That focus shifts security from a cost center to a driver of ROI and resilience.

This week we are joined by several folks: Brian Blakely who has three successful MSP exits, built & sold Cosant Cyber, a team of vCISOs and is currently running the professional services arm of Compliance Scorecard as their Chief Risk Officer. David Primor, CEO & Founder of Cynomi and former Executive Director of Technology for the Israeli National Cyber Directorate. Nett Lynch, CISO of Kraft Kennedy and for head of the vCISO practice at VC3 and as always, Phyllis Lee, VP of Content at CIS, with 25 years of experience at the NSA.

The Ingram Micro Cyber Incident & Building Security Maturity - F12’s ISO 27001Journey Jul 08, 2025

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Supply chain attacks doubled according to the 2025 Verizon DBIR. This week the channel awakens to Ingram Micro being attacked by the SafePay Ransomware group. Incident Response (IR) expert, Chris Loehr, EVP of Solis joins The CyberCall, to share perspective on the GlobalProtect VPN compromise.

That’s why today on today's CyberCall, we’re talking about what MSPs can do right now to get serious about third-party risk—and why ISO 27001 may be the most important next step for your business.

We're joined by Calvin Engen, CTO & Co-Founder of F12, who walks us through their recent completion and journey:
✅ What it really took to earn ISO 27001
✅ What changed inside F12 along the way
✅ How it’s shaping trust with their clients now

Special co-host guest: Chip Buck, CTO & Co-Founder of SaaS Alerts joins Phyllis Lee, VP of Content and Andrew Morgan, Founder of The CyberCall.

The Intersection of AI, RPA & Cyber - What Your MSP Needs to Know Jul 03, 2025

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In this must-listen episode of The CyberCall, hosts Andrew Morgan, Phyllis Lee & Gary Pica are joined by Aharon Chernin, Founder & CEO of Rewst — to explore how Artificial Intelligence (AI), Robotic Process Automation (RPA), and Cybersecurity are colliding in today’s MSP landscape.

Tune in to learn what your MSP needs to know now to stay ahead!

Connect with Right of Boom:

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CIS Controls - Version 8.1 Update Overview Aug 09, 2024

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With the release of NIST Cybersecurity Framework 2.0, CIS felt strongly that an update to The Controls was necessary to crossmap to CSF 2.0. Specifically the strongest driver, was the release of the Govern function.
Co-hosts:
Phyllis Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllis-lee-21b58a1a4/
Brian Blakely: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bblakley/
Eric Woodard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-woodard/
Sponsored by Right of Boom cybersecurity conference: https://www.rightofboom.com/

CIS Control 18 - Penetration Testing - Sponsored by Hacket Cyber Jul 25, 2023

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Penetration testing is something that more companies and organizations should be considering a necessary expense. Pen Testing is an important aspect of discovery and identifying potential critical vulnerabilities within your organizations external network, internal network, applications, or systems. They provide a valuable insight on how your digital and human assets perform.
In this episode we review the criticality of scoping a Pen Test, along with differences between Pen Testing, Red Teaming and Vulnerability Assessment. Why should you choose one over the other and when would one proceed the other.
Sponsored by: Hacket Cyber and post game interview with Founder James Carroll. Hacket Cyber is a security consulting firm specializing in penetration testing, ethical hacking, and industry-leading cybersecurity services. Our offerings are purpose-built for the MSP, MSSP, and VAR channels. https://hacketcyber.com/partner/

James Carroll LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchax/
Co-hosts:
Ryan Weeks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanweeks/
Phyllis Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllis-lee-21b58a1a4/
Wes Spencer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesspencer/

CIS Control 17 - Incident Response Management - Sponsored by Exigence Jun 02, 2023

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The biggest takeaway from CIS Control 17 is that planning and communication are critical when responding to an incident. The longer an intruder has access to your network, the more time they’ve had to embed themselves into your systems. Communicating with everyone involved can help limit the duration between attack and clean-up.

Establish a program to develop and maintain an incident response capability (e.g., policies, plans, procedures, defined roles, training, and communications) to prepare, detect, and quickly respond to an attack.

Our sponsor: Exigence (https://www.exigence.io) is a multi-tenant, Incident Readiness, Incident Response platform, built for MSP/MSSPs. Drive new revenue streams and meet cyber insurance & regulatory requirements for Incident Response plans and tabletops.
The Exigence platform gives you full control of critical incidents by uniquely addressing every aspect of the incident – turning an unstructured situation into one that is structured and easy to manage.

It coordinates all stakeholders and systems all the time, orchestrates complex workflows from trigger to resolution, simplifies the post-mortem, and always leverages lessons learned for doing it even better next time.

Contact Noam here: noam@exigence.io
Co-hosts:
Ryan Weeks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanweeks/
Phyllis Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllis-lee-21b58a1a4/
Wes Spencer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesspencer/
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CIS Control 16 - Application Software Security - Sponsored by Manicode Mar 14, 2023

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CIS Control 16 - Application Software Security
The way in which we interact with applications has changed dramatically over years. Organizations use applications in day-to-day operations to manage their most sensitive data and control access to system resources. Instead of traversing a labyrinth of networks and systems, attackers today see an opening to turn an organizations applications against it to bypass network security controls and compromise sensitive data. NOTE: Crowdstrike notes that Cloud based attacks and initial access via these systems has increased 112%, therefore SaaS applications, their potential vulnerabilities and misconfigurations along with initial access are all being focused on by threat actors.
**Jim Manico at minute 52:40 - do not miss!!**
Our sponsor: Jim Manico, Founder of Manicode is considered the "Godfather" of the OWASP Top 10 and trains software development teams around the globe. His firm helps organizations building secure code and creates programs to address the primary cause of insecurity, which is the lack of secure software development practices.
Contact Jim here: https://manicode.com/
Co-hosts:
Ryan Weeks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanweeks/
Phyllis Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllis-lee-21b58a1a4/
Wes Spencer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesspencer/
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CIS Control 15 - Service Provider Management Jan 22, 2023

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LastPass and the recent Rackspace Exchange incident are two prime examples of "why" this Control is Critical!!
Develop a process to evaluate service providers who hold sensitive data, or are responsible for critical IT platforms or processes, to ensure these providers are protecting those platforms and data appropriately.
Identify your business needs and create a set of standards that can be used to grade services providers that are being proposed.

Organize and monitor all services providers that are associated with your business. Keeping an inventory of all services providers will enable you to monitor them in case they update their policies.

Co-hosts:
Ryan Weeks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanweeks/
Phyllis Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllis-lee-21b58a1a4/
Wes Spencer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesspencer/

CIS Control 14 - Security Awareness and Skills Training - sponsored by Phin Security Nov 09, 2022

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MSP/MSSPs should offer solutions to provide users with frequent security awareness training to increase its overall security posture. The information provided by the security awareness training should be relevant and provide insights into recent security incidents. Training should also reiterate the necessity of using strong passwords, spotting and reporting phishing attacks, as well as properly handling personal information.

Security awareness training should include frequent phishing tests. Phishing tests allow users to learn from their mistakes and utilize their training to spot actual phishing attacks. These phishing tests should be specially crafted for different departments within an enterprise. Specially crafted phishing tests are harder to detect and demonstrate the value of security awareness training.

👏Special thanks to Phin Security for their sponsorship and interview.
Connor Swalm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/connor-swalm/
Co-hosts:
Ryan Weeks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanweeks/
Phyllis Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllis-lee-21b58a1a4/
Wes Spencer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesspencer/

CIS Control 13 - Network Monitoring and Defense - sponsor by ConnectWise Sep 29, 2022

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Network monitoring and defense is one of only two controls that does not contain any Implementation Group 1 Safeguards in Controls version 8. This control is geared towards mature MSPs, MSSPs & organizations who have a mindset of continuous improvement that involves people, process, and technology. Service providers need a well-trained staff that executes on their network monitoring, detection, logging, correlation of events in order to thwart malicious attacks.
👏Special thanks for ConnectWise sponsorship and interview.
Drew Sanford: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewsanford/
Co-hosts:
Ryan Weeks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanweeks/
Phyllis Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllis-lee-21b58a1a4/
Wes Spencer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesspencer/

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