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    The Covert Narcissism Podcast

    Covert narcissistic abuse crushes one’s soul. This podcast is devoted to understanding covert narcissistic abuse, its effect on the victims, and how to heal.

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    Latest Episodes:
    The Bone Dry Exhaustion of Life with a Covert Narcissist (Special Throwback Episode) Jul 20, 2023
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    A narcissistic person cannot even do step A to help a relationship. You can wear the entire alphabet out multiple times, and they still haven't even found step A. Not even a tiny step. Nothing!

    The level of exhaustion that comes with this is unbelievable. It is a bone dry emptiness. I had absolutely nothing left in my tank. I was on empty!
    So why do we wear ourselves out so much trying to make the relationship work? Why do we work so hard at it? What if we put all that effort into ourselves? It is time to offer yourself the same effort that you have offered to this abuser. You deserve it!!

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

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    I Want Out! Now What? Part One Jul 16, 2023
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    “I can’t live like this anymore. I want out. I’m done.” So you say this to your spouse, totally exhausted and meaning every word. You are done.

    But then this strange thing happens. Here you are, still in the home with them. You might have said these words and left for a while, or maybe they left for a while. But evening comes, and here you are in the home together. Now what? Do I cook dinner for the family? Are we going to sit at the table and eat? Are we going to watch tv?

    It can feel like that conversation never even happened. The covert narcissist will often in fact just go back to normal life as though nothing changed. It can feel like you just walked right into the Twilight Zone!!

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.facebook.com/renee.covertnarcissism


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    Interview About Covert Narcissism (Special Throwback Episode) Jul 13, 2023
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    Victims of covert narcissism have so many questions running through their mind. While I do get asked many questions, some questions show up in almost every conversation.

    How did you realize you were with a covert narcissist?

    What is a covert narcissist?

    What does a relationship with a covert narcissist look like?

    What do I do now?

    Where can I find help?

    I was recently interviewed regarding covert narcissism. In this interview, I answer these questions and more. Here are clips from that interview. I think you will find it helpful for your own journey of healing!

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.facebook.com/renee.covertnarcissism


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    The Wounds from Childhood Jul 09, 2023
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    Everyone carries wounds from childhood. No matter how healthy and attentive your parents were, you did not get through childhood unscathed. No one does. Everyone has some wounds. That does not make you damaged or bad. It just makes you human.

    When we have an emotional need that is not met as a child, we often abandon that need in order to survive. Maybe it wasn’t met because our parents were busy. Maybe it wasn’t met because our parents were limited in their own emotional development. Maybe they just didn’t know.

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.facebook.com/renee.covertnarcissism

    But these unmet needs cause us to form core beliefs about ourselves. Beliefs such as, “I am bad. I’m unlovable. I’m not worthy. I’m not good enough. I’ll be abandoned.” Today I am going to explore how these wounds take shape later in life for both the covert narcissist and their victim.


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    Just Hard to Relax - Living in a Courtroom with a Covert Narcissist (Special Throwback Episode) Jul 06, 2023
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    Living with a covert narcissist is like trying to live in a war zone or in a courtroom when you are the one on trial.

    My son is traveling this week with his dad, who is a covert narcissist. I have been nervous about this trip and sincerely hope that everything goes well for them. I texted my son on their second day out and asked how it was going. His words spoke volumes. He said that it is going ok but it is just hard to relax.

    This is exactly how life is with a covert narcissist. You never feel like you can simply relax. This is because you feel like it is never okay to just be you. You can’t voice your own opinion about anything. Everything is met with resistance and invalidation.
    You feel like you are living in a courtroom, always on trial, always under attack, always needing to defend your opinions and thoughts. Nothing is ever safe. You remain in a constant state of hypervigilance.

    Covert narcissists belittle you for having opinions and thoughts. They put you down, make you feel bad, and confuse you to what reality actually is. They expect you to accept their reality. Anything outside of this is likely to be targeted.

    Your mind is always trying to stay ahead of the conflicts. So you build opening arguments in anticipation of a problem. You see potential problems everywhere!
    Once in a problem, your mind goes to survival mode. You feel like you are under examination. You try every angle you can to find peace. You might even experience some reactive abuse, where you flare out at your abuser out of desperation.

    Last, you never find resolution. So you walk away with your mind now making multiple closing arguments, most of which will never be voiced.

    Yet the cycle starts all over again. Your mind is back on watch, trying to anticipate the next problem.

    In this episode, I give you some valuable suggestions for finding internal peace after a relationship with a covert narcissist. There is no clear way to do healing, no one right path that fits every victim, no step-by-step instructions. You have to find what fits for you. Taking control of your own healing is one of the valuable steps to taking control of your life again. I hope these suggestions help you find your own path of healing!

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.facebook.com/renee.covertnarcissism


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    Conditioned to Accept Their Behavior Jul 02, 2023
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    Today we are talking about conditioning, the process of training someone to behave in a certain way or to accept certain circumstances.

    In the Boy Who Cried Wolf, the villagers became conditioned to his cries. Like the boy in the story, covert narcissists set off alarm bells when they are not needed. They stir up drama and trouble when there isn’t any there. Claiming that they hate drama, they are the first ones to create it. It is almost as though they are bored with life unless the drama is there.

    They then feed off of your anger and frustration, off your reactions to them. They thrive when you are all worked up and upset. They love it when you are back in your fix-it mode to put all the pieces that they blew up back together again. Like the boy in the story, they sit back and enjoy your reaction. Overtime, you learn to tolerate their behavior and put up with things you should never be putting up with. You have been conditioned.

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.facebook.com/renee.covertnarcissism


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    Q&A Session on Parenting With a Toxic Partner (Special Throwback Episode) Jun 29, 2023
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    Parenting with a toxic partner is the single hardest thing I have ever done in life.

    It is a living nightmare!

    You are not co-parenting. You are counter parenting. You are working against the negative energy of that other parent. You spend enormous amounts of energy simply trying to counter the damage that they are doing to their own children.

    It is exhausting and impossible. Yet for the sake of your own children, it is a task that you will give everything you have in order to be successful. I hope this Q&A session from the Facebook support group, Parenting with a Toxic Partner, will help you on this journey.

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.facebook.com/renee.covertnarcissism


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    Emotional Childishness of Covert Narcissists Jun 25, 2023
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    Will they ever grow up?? Am I dealing with a child or an adult? Sometimes I really am not sure.

    I’ve talked before about the lack of emotional growth in covert narcissists. They grow physically, mentally, even socially and in other ways. But not emotionally. Their emotional growth stopped at some point in their childhood, for various reasons, typically some sort of trauma including emotional neglect.

    So they can certainly seem like a child when it comes to emotions, but they are trapped in an adult’s body and trying to function in an adult’s world. They look like an adult. At times they act like an adult. They have adult responsibilities. But they are stuck in their emotional development. In this episode, I will give you examples of this emotional childishness that covert narcissists carry into adulthood.

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.facebook.com/renee.covertnarcissism


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    Shouldn’t I Just Be Grateful that it isn’t Worse? (Special Throwback Episode) Jun 22, 2023
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    This podcast is audio taken from 2 short video clips that I made just recently. I want to share it here!

    The first piece is Shouldn't I just be Grateful that it isn't Worse? So many people have it worse than I do. Should I just be happy that I am not in their situation? Just because others may have it worse (and that is a matter of opinion itself) does not take anything away from the pain you are experiencing. If you are questioning this, please listen to this piece!

    The second part is Everything is on Purpose!! The covert narcissist will accuse you of doing everything on purpose to hurt them. You looked at them wrong "on purpose!" You asked a question wrong and you did it "on purpose!" Everything you do, in their eyes, is purposefully done in order to hurt them. They see it that way because everything they do is so heavily calculated and "on purpose." They believe that everyone functions this way.

    I am thoroughly enjoying making podcasts and wanted to share with you a glimpse of some of my previous work. I hope that this helps. I wish you so much peace on your own journey of healing!

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.facebook.com/renee.covertnarcissism


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    How Do You Handle the Guilt? Jun 18, 2023
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    Why do I feel so guilty? After all they have done to me, what is wrong with me that I now feel guilty?
    Guilt is one massive piece of the confusing puzzle when you are dealing with a covert narcissist in your life. If it is your spouse, guilty that you don’t want to be around them anymore. Guilty that you have bad thoughts about them and can’t find any good thoughts anymore. Guilty that you are pulling away when they are in a love-bombing phase. Guilty that you don’t have the capacity to give them anymore opportunities. Guilty that you are considering leaving. If it is your parent, guilty that you don’t want a relationship with them anymore. Guilty that you go no contact and cut them out of your life. Guilty that you don’t wish them happy birthday or let them talk with their grandchildren.

    I am Renee Swanson, and I help people recover from covert narcissistic abuse.

    • Are you tired of feeling isolated and alone?
    • Are you searching for people who get it?
    • Are you confused, reactive and unsure what to do?
    • Are you running in circles in your mind?
    • Are you worried for your kids and the effect this is having on them?
    • Do you want to know how not to raise another narcissist in this world?

    I can help you! I offer both group and individual coaching, which you can find at www.covertnarcissism.com

    Renee Swanson, Certified Coach and Advocate for Victims of Covert Narcissistic Abuse

    http://www.covertnarcissism.com

    https://www.tiktok.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.youtube.com/@cngreneeswanson

    https://www.facebook.com/renee.covertnarcissism

    Removing toxic people from your life is painful! It is not the option that we want, but sometimes it is the only choice we have. It can leave you haunted by guilt.


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