The Contemplative Science Podcast

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Into the Dark: Science and Practice of Dark Retreat w/ Ian Gardner Aug 28, 2026

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What happens to the mind when light—and many of our ordinary sensory anchors—disappear? In this episode, I speak with Acraya founder Ian Gardner about the ancient and contemporary practice of dark retreat. We explore what extended darkness can do to perception and consciousness, the experiences that can emerge as external stimulation falls away, and the importance of preparation, screening, support, and integration. We also discuss the emerging science of dark retreat and Ian’s attempt to bring this unusual contemplative practice into a modern, carefully supported setting.

If you’d like to explore dark retreat practice more deeply, Andrew Holecek has an excellent Sounds True course, Into the Luminous Dark, that offers a rich and practical introduction to the tradition.

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Authentic Intelligence: The Brahma Vihāras and the Future of Secular Dharma w/ Dave Smith Jul 21, 2026

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What role do loving-kindness, compassion, appreciative joy, and equanimity play in the development of insight?In this episode, Mark speaks with Dharma teacher Dave Smith about the Brahma Vihāras, secular Buddhism, and the place of ethics in contemporary Insight Meditation. They also discuss Dave’s course Actual Intelligence, which explores the human capacities needed to navigate an age increasingly shaped by artificial intelligence.

Ecodharma, Dzogchen, and the Politics of Transformation w/ Adam Lobel Jun 10, 2026

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In this episode, I’m joined by Adam Lobel, PhD, a meditation teacher, scholar-practitioner, and professor of ecopsychology and Buddhist psychology. Adam’s work brings together contemporary philosophy, Dzogchen Tibetan Buddhism, ecopsychology, and transformational politics, asking how contemplative practice can respond to a society undergoing profound ecological, cultural, and spiritual change. We discuss ecodharma, cultural therapeutics, the role of Buddhist practice in ecological and social justice movements, and what it might mean to meet our metamorphosing world with clarity, compassion, and courageous action.

Minds, Models, and Invisible Beings w/ Zach Buck Apr 27, 2026

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Why do people across cultures report encounters with spirits, deities, ancestors, demons, angels, or other seemingly independent beings? And how might the science of predictive processing and active inference help us understand these experiences without simply dismissing them as “mere hallucinations”? In this episode, I speak with Zach Buck about spiritual entities, psychedelic experiences, and the predictive mind. We explore why the brain may sometimes model invisible agents as real presences, especially in altered states of consciousness, ritual contexts, contemplative practice, and emotionally charged moments. Rather than reducing these experiences to pathology or treating them uncritically as literal encounters, Zach offers a middle path: an active inference account that asks how perception, culture, expectation, embodiment, and uncertainty work together to shape experiences of spiritual agency.

Establishing Right View: Meditation, Meaning, and Staying on Track w/ Nicholas Buscall Mar 02, 2026

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In this conversation, Humanistic Integrative Psychotherapeutic Counsellor Nicholas Buscall and I explore why establishing a “good view”—a clear, grounded orientation to what meditation is (and isn’t)—can make practice safer, steadier, and more transformative. We talk about how meditation training can drift into confusion or unhelpful striving, and how a therapist’s perspective and regular check-ins can help you track your development, notice red flags early, and keep practice aligned with well-being, values, and real-world functioning.

Where Science Meets Silence w/Brother Phap Linh Jan 12, 2026

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n this episode of The Contemplative Science Podcast, I’m delighted to welcome back Brother Phap Linh, a Buddhist monk ordained at Plum Village in 2008. Before monastic life, Brother Phap Linh studied at Cambridge and worked as a composer, chef, and math tutor—bringing a rare blend of creativity, analytical rigor, and lived practice into his contemplative path.

Inspired by the teachings of Thich Nhat Hanh, Brother Phap Linh entered monastic life as a response to global suffering, grounding his work in mindfulness, ethical living, and community practice. Today, he finds deep joy in guiding others—both monastic and lay—toward greater presence, compassion, and collective well-being.

Our conversation explores the evolving relationship between Buddhism, spirituality, and science: how mindfulness is studied, where scientific models illuminate practice, and where lived experience resists easy measurement. Together, we reflect on what contemplative traditions can genuinely offer modern science—and what science can responsibly contribute to the deep work of inner transformation.

A thoughtful, grounded dialogue at the meeting point of practice, theory, and lived wisdom.

Purposeful Behaviour Through a Buddhist Lens w Nadav Amir Nov 24, 2025

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In this episode, we explore the role of goal-setting and purposeful behaviour in Buddhist contemplative practice. While many traditions emphasize letting go, Buddhist training is also deeply structured by intentionality, effort, and purposeful cultivation. Nadav Amir brings a computational neuroscience perspective to these questions, examining how minds generate goals, how agency emerges, and how these processes relate to frameworks from early Buddhist epistemology and ethics. Together, we discuss paradoxes of striving, the tension between effort and non-attachment, and what modern neuroscience can tell us about intention on the contemplative path.

How Compassion Works w/ Paul Condon Nov 03, 2025

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In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Paul Condon to explore his new book How Compassion Works and the science behind cultivating compassion that lasts. We discuss what compassion really is, how it can be measured and taught, and why sustaining compassion matters for individuals and communities alike. Paul shares insights from his research on compassion training, its impact on mental health and social connection, and how these practices can be taught in a rigorous, evidence-based way without losing their heart.

The Inner Science of Pain: Compassion, Contemplation, and Healing w/ Richmond Stace Aug 20, 2025

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What if understanding pain was a contemplative act? Richmond Stace, creator of Pain Coaching, brings together neuroscience, psychotherapy, and contemplative insights to rethink chronic pain not just as a biological condition, but as a human experience shaped by meaning, attention, and awareness.

Being Deeply Well: Dharma, Discomfort, and the Healing Path w/ Melina Bondy & Arti Mehta Jul 28, 2025

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What does it really mean to be deeply well—not just symptom-free or spiritually polished, but truly grounded, embodied, and alive? In this episode, Dharma teachers Melina Bondy and Arti Mehta explore this question through the lenses of contemplative practice, psychotherapy, somatics, art, and community care. Together we reflect on how meditation and the Dharma shape our understanding of wellness—not as an escape from life’s struggles, but as a courageous turning toward them. We discuss how to stay with discomfort without bypassing, the role of the body in healing, and the tensions between spiritual ideals and lived experience. We also ask: Can wellness itself become a form of resistance? What does it mean to be well together? And how can we honour both safety and challenge in our communities? This is a rich and honest conversation about the nonlinear path to being deeply well—and what it takes to share that path with others.

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