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COS 117 What We Get Wrong with the “Slightly Overweight” Dog (Sponsored by Hill’s) Jan 27, 2022

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This episode is made possible ad-free by the sponsorship of Hill’s Pet Nutrition! Dr. Andy Roark has a 4yo FS Labrador that is 6-7/9 body condition score. He’s wondering why he struggles to motivate clients to make changes that will get this dog back to an ideal condition. Dr. Mike Robbins is in to discuss what vets get wrong in these conversations, how vets and technicians can make better recommendations to motivate these clients, and the missed opportunities we all have in doing nutritional assessments.

LINKS: Hill's Quick Reco Tool for personalized feeding fecommendations made easy: https://quickreco.com/ Hill's Veterinary Resources for Patient Weight Loss: https://www.hillsvet.com/pet-solutions/weight-management-pet-food American College of Veterinary Nutrition specialty website: https://acvn.org/ WASAVA for Diet History Form: Full Form: https://wsava.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Nutritional-Assessment-Checklist.pdf Shortened Form: https://wsava.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Diet-History-Form.pdf Veterinary Technician Nutrition Specialty Program/Info: https://nutritiontechs.com/ Veterinary Healthcare Team site: www.endpetobesity.com/vet Pet Parent Friendly site: www.endpetobesity.com

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Michael T. Robbins, DVM, Dipl. ACVN received his veterinary medical degree in 2015 from the University of Tennessee and completed a rotating internship at the BluePearl Veterinary Hospital in Louisville, KY. This was followed by a residency in small animal clinical nutrition at North Carolina State University College of Veterinary Medicine. He then stayed on with the Clinical Nutrition Service for 7 months following his residency to further hone his skills prior to accepting the position of Scientific Communications Specialist with Hill’s Pet Nutrition. During his time at NC State, Dr. Robbins was involved with developing specifically tailored assisted feeding tube diet blends, outlining feeding plans for all ICU patients, creating appropriate homemade diets for those patients with specific and complex nutritional needs (as well as extremely particular taste preferences), while also providing nutritional advice to referring veterinarians. He also assisted with teaching responsibilities of third and fourth year veterinary students as well as rotating interns. In 2021, Dr. Robbins received his diplomate status with the American College of Veterinary Nutrition which has recently been altered to American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine (Nutrition). His current responsibilities with Hill’s are to deliver education to veterinary staff, students, and those involved with Hill’s tours; provide technical support to Hill’s Veterinary Consultation Service; assist with review of technical documents; support the execution and development of digital education and social media strategy; and build relationships with Key Thought Leaders.

COS 116 Intern/Resident Pay and What it Means for Vet Med Jan 20, 2022

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Dr. Sam Morello is on the podcast to discuss her recent publication in JAVMA, Comparison of resident and intern salaries with the current living wage as a quantitative estimate of financial strain among postgraduate veterinary trainees. Dr. Morello makes the case that early career pay plays a role in our ability to increase diversity in the profession, support women and families, reduce the frequency of burnout and increase doctor retention in the clinical space.

LINKS: Original Article: https://avmajournals.avma.org/view/journals/javma/aop/javma.21-07-0336/javma.21-07-0336.xml Uncharted Podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-uncharted-veterinary-podcast/id1449897688

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Sam Morello received her BS and DVM from Cornell University and completed a large animal surgical residency at the University of Pennsylvania’s New Bolton Center. She spent over a decade in academia as an Associate Professor Surgery focused on musculoskeletal and upper airway diseases. In addition to her clinical research on those topics, Dr. Morello has extensive experience investigating and speaking on professional sustainability, economic, and personal life issues in veterinary medicine with a particular focus on gender. She has been an invited speaker nationally and internationally and at veterinary schools across the country. Projects have focused on women and other underrepresented groups in veterinary surgery and human orthopedics, on work-life issues for veterinarians, residency-selection and compensation, and how gender stereotypes affect perceptions of veterinary medicine to those outside. Her goals are to provide data to improve mentorship, inform career decisions, and to guide those in management and leadership roles to shape the policies that best serve the profession. She serves as the Assistant Director for Continuing Education for the American College of Veterinary Surgeons, a member of the AOVet North America Faculty where she serves on the Education Committee and leads a task force on Faculty and Leader Development for the internationally run AO Access program, a program she helped to design and launch dedicated to improving diversity, opportunity, and mentorship among global community of human and veterinary orthopedic surgeons. She also serves on the board for the Women’s Veterinary Leadership Development Initiative. Sam is now self employed as a consultant, based in Madison, Wisconsin, and recently joined the Cornell Center for Veterinary Business and Entrepreneurship as a Courtesy Associate Professor.

COS 115 The Burnout Paradigm Shift (Sponsored By Cubex) Jan 13, 2022

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Description: This episode of the Cone of Shame Veterinary Podcast is made possible by Cubex - Protect your people, practice and profits. Dr. Carrie Jurney, President of Not One More Vet (NOMV) is visiting today to talk about the changes we have seen in the veterinary mental health space during the COVID pandemic. In the last 2 years NOMV has grown radically, and has become one of the most recognizable groups working to improve wellness and mental health in our industry. Carrie and Dr. Andy Roark discuss where mental health initiatives are going, and how they will look very different in years to come.

LINKS: Uncharted Podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-uncharted-veterinary-podcast/id1449897688 Charming the Angry Client On-Demand Staff Training: https://drandyroark.com/on-demand-staff-training/ What’s on my Scrubs?! Card Game: https://drandyroark.com/training-tools/ Dr. Andy Roark Swag: drandyroark.com/shop All Links: linktr.ee/DrAndyRoark

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Dr. Carrie Jurney is a veterinary neurologist in the San Francisco Bay Area and owner of Jurney Veterinary Neurology. When she's not in the clinic, she's the president of Not One More Vet, a global mental health support group and charity for veterinary professionals. In her spare time, she is a metal artist, Burning Man Camp lead, and podcaster on the Veterinary Superfriends Podcast.

COS 114 Eliminating Problems Is Not The Answer Jan 06, 2022

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“Eliminating problems is not the answer to mental health and wellness challenges.” If you spend 100% of your time weeding a garden, and 0% of your time planting it, ultimately you will have a frustrating and barren garden. This is the basic premise that Josh Vaisman brings to the podcast as he and Dr. Andy Roark discuss how we cannot remove challenges until we are happy, and what other approaches we should consider.

LINKS: Zack Mercurio Homepage: https://www.zachmercurio.com/ Strategic Planning Workshop Series: https://unchartedvet.com/upcoming-events/ Uncharted Veterinary Conference April 21-23, 2022: https://unchartedvet.com/uncharted-april-2022/ Uncharted Podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-uncharted-veterinary-podcast/id1449897688

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Josh believes all veterinary professionals deserve to feel fulfilled by their work, each and every day. Through his company, Flourish Veterinary Consulting, he combines more than 20 years of veterinary experience, a master’s in applied Positive Psychology & Coaching Psychology, and education in Positive Leadership and Positive Organizational Scholarship and a passion for guiding leaders to cultivate work environments in which people can thrive. Fun fact – Josh is also an avid beekeeper who teaches beginning beekeepers how to tend to their buzzing buddies."

COS 113 “I Wouldn’t Change a Thing” Dec 30, 2021

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From Angell Memorial Animal Hospital in Boston to the Los Angeles Zoo, Dr. Mark Goldstein has had a fascinating career. Today he joins Dr. Andy Roark to reflect on his life as a veterinary professional, his fight against pancreatic cancer, and the lessons he has learned from people and pets. ***TW: There is a brief but graphic mention of suicide in this podcast.***

LINKS: Lions and Tigers and Hamsters: What Animals Large and Small Taught Me About Life, Love, and Humanity (Amazon.com): https://www.amazon.com/Lions-Tigers-Hamsters-Animals-Humanity/dp/0757321860/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HJ6JGQDKF5F0&keywords=mark+goldstein&qid=1640620179&s=books&sprefix=mark+goldst%2Cstripbooks%2C252&sr=1-1 Strategic Planning Workshop Series: https://unchartedvet.com/upcoming-events/ Uncharted Veterinary Conference April 21-23, 2022: https://unchartedvet.com/uncharted-april-2022/ Uncharted Podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-uncharted-veterinary-podcast/id1449897688

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Mark Goldstein, DVM, has spent over 40 years caring, advocating, and fighting for the welfare of animals. The institutions he worked at are all recognized leaders in their respective fields and the variety of animals he worked with and the varied responsibilities he has had are unique. He was a senior staff clinician in the medicine department at Angell Memorial Animal Hospital in Boston. After being hired to head the Boston Zoos, he led a turnaround for the failing inner city Franklin Park Zoo. “Dr. Mark” then moved west with his wife Kristine and their two daughters when he was appointed to lead the Los Angeles Zoo. During his tenure at the Los Angeles Zoo he was involved with one of the most successful release programs, the reintroduction of the California Condor back into the wild. He vividly remembers watching the first bird being re-released into the Los Padres National Forest soar free one misty beautiful morning. He followed his heart to shine a light on the importance of the human-animal bond and took the helm at the San Diego Humane Society and SPCA where he oversaw the design, development, and completion of the “San Diego Campus for Animal Care.” Many aspects of the campus, its programs and its unique partnership with the municipal animal care department have been copied numerous times both nationally and internationally. He has a BS in Animal Science and a DVM degree from Cornell University. Health Communications Inc. (HCI) recently published his book “Lions and Tigers and Hamsters” What large and small animals taught me about life, love and humanity. Dr. Mark enjoys giving presentations that are both educational and entertaining. His talks not only draw upon stories from his book “Lions and Tigers and Hamsters” but also from his 40 years of experience caring for animals and their welfare along with supporting the people who care for them. He has vast experience talking to a variety of groups from book clubs, service organizations, and at professional conferences as the keynote speaker. He was also the UCSD OSHER visiting author during the 2020 spring semester. He imparts to his audience the importance of the human-animal bond and how it helps create the fabric of a healthy community. He calls upon his experiences to share with colleagues how he feels honored to have been able to serve in what he sees as a sacred profession, the practice of veterinary medicine. He enjoys making his presentations interactive and encourages Q/A when the program allows.

COS 112 The 4 Relationship Types Clients Have with Their Pets Dec 23, 2021

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Ann Wortinger BIS, LVT, VTS (ECC) (SAIM) (Nutrition) joins Dr. Andy Roark to discuss the four relationship types pet owners have with their pets (Anthropomorphic, Integrated, Chattel, and Mixed), how these relationships present in the exam room, and how veterinary professionals can adjust their messaging to interface successfully.

LINKS: Uncharted Veterinary Conference April 21-23, 2022: https://unchartedvet.com/uncharted-april-2022/ Uncharted Podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-uncharted-veterinary-podcast/id1449897688

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Ann Wortinger BIS, LVT, VTS (ECC) (SAIM) (Nutrition), Elite FFCP Ann is a 1983 graduate of Michigan State University and got her specialty certification in Emergency/ Critical Care in 2000, in Small Animal Internal Medicine in 2008 and in Nutrition in 2013. In 2020 she attained her Elite Fear Free certification. She has worked in general, emergency, specialty practice, education and management. Ann is active in her state, national and specialty organizations, and served on the organizing committees for Internal Medicine and Nutrition. She has mentored over 20 fellow VTSs and has worked on a variety of committees and positions. She is currently an instructor and Academic Advisor for Ashworth College’s Veterinary Technology Program, as well as an active speaker and writer. Ann has over 50 published articles in various professional magazines as well as book chapters and a book, Nutrition and Disease Management for Veterinary Technicians and Nurses in its second edition in 2016 coauthored with Kara Burns. Ann received the 2009 Service Award for her state association (MAVT), the 2010 Achievement Award for the Academy of Internal Medicine for Veterinary Technicians (AIMVT), and in 2012 received the Jack L. Mara Memorial Lecture Award presented at NAVC. Her fur/feather/fin family consists of 4 resident cats, multiple foster kittens, chickens and a pond full of goldfis

COS 111 Alarmism and the Challenge of Talking About Mental Health Dec 16, 2021

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Dr. Jen Brandt sits down with Dr. Andy Roark to discuss the challenges of talking productively about mental health and suicide. They talk about what is productive when discussing mental health and what is not, the truth about the narrative that veterinary medicine is “the worst” industry for mental health and suciide, and how we might correct this narrative. Dr. Brandt discusses internal vs. external loci of control, negativity bias, and toxic positivity. They end the discussion talking about how to challenge damaging communications and venting vs emotional dumping.

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Dr. Jen Brandt, AVMA’s Director of Wellbeing, Diversity, and Inclusion Initiatives, is a licensed independent social worker, certified crisis worker, certified anti-oppression informed practitioner, and senior trainer for the Institute for Healthcare Communication. In 2000, Dr. Brandt co-founded The Ohio State University College of Veterinary Medicine’s Honoring the Bond services, one of the first programs in the nation aimed at recognizing and supporting the human-animal bond by providing education and resources to animal owners and animal care professionals. Dr. Brandt helped launch the AVMA’s Workplace Wellbeing Certificate Program to support veterinary professionals in developing the knowledge and skills needed to create healthy work systems and AVMA’s Brave Space Certificate Program which explores the impact of stereotyping, unconscious bias, and workplace harassment. In 2020, Dr. Brandt was elected as a Distinguished Fellow of the National Academies of Practice in Social Work. She received her Ph.D. and Master of Social Work from The Ohio State University and holds a Bachelor of Arts in Social Work and Sociology with a Minor in Spanish from the University of Indianapolis.

COS 110 Holiday Cat Dangers! (HOF) Dec 09, 2021

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Dr. Margie Sherk is on this Hall of Fame podcast to talk about those easily forgotten holiday dangers that we (and cat owners) need to keep in mind.

LINKS: It’s All Fun and Games – How to Play, Engage with and Reward Your Team: https://unchartedvet.com/product/its-all-fun-and-games/ Uncharted Podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-uncharted-veterinary-podcast/id1449897688

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Two weeks before graduating from OVC in 1982, Margie Scherk packed all of her worldly belongings into her rusty, yellow Honda Civic named Jaundice and drove west to take her last two weeks of school at WCVM. Moving to a place she could see the mountains and ocean every day, she opened Cats Only Veterinary Clinic in 1982, at that time the second feline specific clinic in Canada. The first time they became available to sit, she sat and passed ABVP Feline boards in 1995. Since 2008 she has been teaching, writing and editing exclusively. This takes her around the world where, like a locum, she gets to see how other people practice, only in this case, under some very different circumstances and in different cultures. She is the North American editor of the Journal of Feline Medicine and Surgery, serves on a whole bunch of committees on national, international and feline projects. As a break, she loves to cook.

COS 109 Cultivating a Positive Workplace Dec 02, 2021

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Description: Josh Vaisman, cofounder of Flourish Veterinary Consulting, and Dr. Andy Roark discuss what it means to have a positive workplace, where most veterinary practices go wrong and what we can actually do to make our practices more enjoyable places to work.

LINKS: Uncharted Podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-uncharted-veterinary-podcast/id1449897688

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Josh Vaisman believes all veterinary professionals deserve to feel fulfilled by their work, each and every day. Through his company, Flourish Veterinary Consulting, he combines more than 20 years of veterinary experience, a master’s in applied Positive Psychology & Coaching Psychology, and education in Positive Leadership and Positive Organizational Scholarship and a passion for guiding leaders to cultivate work environments in which people can thrive. Fun fact – Josh is also an avid beekeeper who teaches beginning beekeepers how to tend to their buzzing buddies.

COS 108 Rowdy Kitten Won’t Stop Attacking Mom! (HDYTT) Nov 25, 2021

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Description: Dr. Andy Roark has a tough case! A rambunctious 3 month old tabby kitten won’t stop attacking his owner! He stalks her, pounces on her ankles from under the bed and rabbit kicks her hand when he gets the chance. It may sound funny, but his owner is fragile and can’t have this keep happening. Luckly, Ingrid Johnson, a feline behavior expert, is here to talk through the case and how she would tackle it.

LINKS: WORKSHOP: It’s All Fun and Games – How to Play, Engage with and Reward Your Team https://unchartedvet.com/product/its-all-fun-and-games/ Fundamentally Feline: https://www.fundamentallyfeline.com/ Uncharted Podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-uncharted-veterinary-podcast/id1449897688

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Ingrid Johnson is a Certified Cat Behavior Consultant (CCBC) through The International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC). Ingrid owns and operates Fundamentally Feline, providing in home consults for locals and virtual consultations worldwide for clients experiencing behavior challenges with their cat(s). In addition to behavior consults, Ingrid also offers medicating consultations to help clients overcome, or get ahead of, medicating challenges. Prevention and training, the best medicine! She makes her own line of feline foraging toys, scratching posts, vertical space, and litter boxes. She lectures nationwide on cat behavior at veterinary conferences such as AAFP, VMX, ACVC and the like. She is employed at Paws Whiskers and Claws, a feline only veterinary hospital, as a tech, groomer, and office manager and has been working exclusively with cats since 1999. In the Fall of 2016 a paper she co-authored, Food puzzles for cats: Feeding for physical and emotional well-being, was published in the JFMS (Journal of Feline Medicine and Surgery) and to compliment it she co-developed FoodPuzzlesforCats.com. To date it is the most popular and widely downloaded paper in the history of the journal! Ingrid’s home, cats, and environmental enrichment expertise has been featured on Animal Planet’s Cats101 show and featured in numerous publications including the website WebMD. She has created a series of educational How-To videos of her own, viewable on Fundamentally Feline’s website and YouTube channel. Ingrid regularly interviews and offers her expertise for various media outlets. She is Co-Director of Paw Project-Georgia, working towards ending the cruel practice of de-clawing cats. Cat Fancy magazine’s 2008 “Home Issue” showcased her feline friendly accommodations and the aesthetically pleasing ways you can provide for your cats innate basic needs while still having a home the humans can enjoy. Ingrid is a huge advocate for enrichment and is determined to thwart the belief that one’s home will look unsightly in efforts to provide it. Ingrid shares her home with husband Jake, five rescue cats, and Sebastian, a rescued Great Pyrenees Dog. Follow Fundamentally Feline on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and You Tube!

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