The Cone of Shame Veterinary Podcast

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257 - Is Purpose - Driven Leadership A Double Edged Sword Feb 29, 2024

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Josh Vaisman joins Dr. Andy Roark on the Cone of Shame Veterinary Podcast to talk about positive psychology and purpose driven leadership. Together they look at both sides of purpose, how it can be motivating to a team and how it can also be weaponized. They also touch on how purpose should not be prescribed and why it shouldn't be set in stone forever.

LINKS Josh Vaisman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-vaisman-mappcp-pgd-8371877 Flourish Veterinary Consulting: https://www.flourish.vet/ Lead to Thrive Book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lead-to-thrive-josh-vaisman-mappcp-pgd/1143946758

ABOUT OUR GUEST Josh believes all veterinary professionals deserve to feel fulfilled by their work, each and every day. Through his company, Flourish Veterinary Consulting, he combines more than 20 years of veterinary experience, a master’s in applied Positive Psychology & Coaching Psychology, and education in Positive Leadership and Positive Organizational Scholarship and a passion for guiding leaders to cultivate work environments in which people can thrive.

256 - How To Reinvent Yourself Feb 22, 2024

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Dr. Sarah Boston returns to the Cone of Shame podcast, this time to discuss her career journey, which includes major pivots from academia to comedy. Between slaying dragons, climbing ladders, and dealing with expectations, Dr. Sarah Boston and Dr. Andy Roark provide great insight into reinventing yourself. LINKS Dr. Sarah Boston & Comedicine Podcast: https://www.drsarahboston.com/ Lucky Dog: https://www.amazon.com/Lucky-Dog-Being-Veterinarian-Saved/dp/1770893512 Uncharted Roadshow in Atlanta: https://unchartedvet.com/product/on-the-road-atl/ Leadership Essentials Certificate: https://unchartedvet.com/uvc-april-2024/ Charming the Angry Client Course: https://drandyroark.com/charming-the-angry-client/ Dr. Andy Roark Swag: https://drandyroark.com/store/ ABOUT OUR GUEST Dr. Sarah Boston is a veterinary surgical oncologist who is an ACVS board certified small animal surgeon and an ACVS Founding Fellow of both Surgical Oncology and Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery. She practises with VCA Canada in the Toronto area. Up until recently, she has spent most of her career in academia as a tenured faculty member at both the University of Guelph and the University of Florida. Dr Boston is also a best-selling author of the book, Lucky Dog: How Being a Veterinarian Saved my Life and one of the creators of The Cageliner, a satirical online newspaper for veterinary professionals that she is currently woefully neglecting. She is also a stand up comedian and in spring 2023, she graduated from the Humber College Comedy Performance and Writing Program. She is the host of the podcast Comedicine, where she interview healthcare professionals who are also comedians. She is a nerd. She believes that we all need to laugh more.

255 - Lar Par, GOLPP And Our Missed Opportunities Feb 15, 2024

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On this week's episode, Dr. Andy Roark is joined by Dr. Mary Gardner to discuss one of her personal passion projects, raising awareness about geriatric onset laryngeal paralysis and polyneuropathy (GOLPP) in senior dogs. Dr. Mary Gardner shares her experience with the disease and how that's led to her commitment to educating both pet owners and veterinary professionals on various treatment options.

LINKS: All About GOLPP Website / https://www.allaboutgolpp.com/ Dr. Mary Gardner on Instagram / https://www.instagram.com/drmarygardner

ABOUT OUR GUEST There is nothing better to Dr. Mary Gardner than a dog with a grey muzzle or skinny old cat! Her professional goal is to increase awareness and medical care for the geriatric veterinary patient and to help make the final life stage to be as peaceful as possible, surrounded with dignity and support for all involved. A University of Florida graduate (AND ANDY’S CLASSMATE!), she discovered her niche in end-of-life care and is the co-founder and CIO of Lap of Love which has over 350 veterinarians around the country dedicated to veterinary hospice and euthanasia in the home. Dr. Gardner is co-author of the textbook “The Treatment and Care of the Veterinary Patient”, co-author of a children’s activity book focused on saying goodbye to a dog called “Forever Friend”, and the author of a book dedicated to pet owners “It’s Never Long Enough: A practical guide to caring for your geriatric dog”. Dr. Gardner also won VMX Small Animal Speaker of the year in 2020!

254 - Dental Dialogues: A Guide to Oral Care Conversations Feb 12, 2024

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Dr. Katie Kling joins Dr. Andy Roark on the Cone of Shame Podcast to discuss the importance of working with pet owners on dental disease prevention without risking their human animal bond in the process. Together they go over what to do when pet owners bring in their favorite dental products and how we as veterinary professionals can guide them to the right resources. This episode is brought to you by Hill's Pet Nutrition! LINKS: https://vohc.org/ https://www.veterinarydentalforum.org/ The Hill's Veterinary Academy is a one site solution for educating the entire veterinary team. On the HVA, you can find FREE RACE CE from leading specialists and experts, patient-centric education beyond nutrition and flexible, on-demand content that fits your schedule.

LINKS Hill's Veterinary Academy: https://na.hillsvna.com/ For more information on Hill's Prescription Diet t/d: https://www.hillspet.com/dog-food/pd-td-canine-dry?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=12261618933&cq_con=112560662610&cq_term=hills%20t%20d&cq_med=&cq_plac=&cq_net=g&cq_plt=gp&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAhc-sBhCEARIsAOVwHuTKmxq_KgsHKYAg1fcTDouLT7WZcFHbjYgrODPqvxZn7xMiB7zDP08aAgrkEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds Continuing education on gaining dental home care compliance: https://na.hillsvna.com/en_US/videos-on-demand/gaining-dental-home-care-compliance-what-works/ Veterinary Oral Health Council Seal of Acceptance products: https://vohc.org/accepted-products/

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Dr. Katie Kling graduated from Ross University School of Veterinary Medicine in 2008 and spent the first 7 years of her career in general practice in Cincinnati, Ohio and College Station, Texas prior to completing her dental residency at the University of Illinois in 2019. She stayed on at the University as an Assistant Professor until 2021 at which time she joined the Veterinary Dental Center in Aurora, IL where she now practices as a part of a dedicated dentistry team. She is happy to serve on the AVDC Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Committee and the AVDC Exam Committee.

253 - Using Fluorescent Light Energy For Dermatologic Therapy Feb 08, 2024

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Board-certified veterinary dermatologist, Dr. Ashley Bouregois, joins Dr. Andy Roark to explore cutting-edge developments in veterinary dermatology. The focus is on Fluorescent Light Energy (FLE), also known as photobiomodulation (PBM), and its revolutionary applications in addressing diverse dermatological cases. Dr. Bouregois demystifies the workings of this light energy, and provides insights into seamlessly integrating this innovative technology into veterinary practices. LINKS: Referenced Article: https://todaysveterinarynurse.com/dermatology/fluorescent-light-energy-therapy/ Phovia: https://www.phoviausa.com/ The DermVet: https://thedermvet.com/ Uncharted Veterinary Podcast: https://unchartedvet.com/uncharted-veterinary-podcast/ Uncharted Veterinary Conference: https://unchartedvet.com/uvc-april-2024/ Dr. Andy Roark Charming the Angry Client Team Training Course: https://drandyroark.com/product/charming-the-angry-client/ ABOUT OUR GUEST Dr. Ashley Bourgeois is a board-certified veterinary dermatologist passionate about providing practical knowledge to general practitioners to help itchy pets! She completed her bachelor’s degree at Iowa State University and graduated from the University of Missouri’s College of Veterinary Medicine in 2010. She then completed a one-year small animal internship at Purdue University. Upon finishing her internship, she accepted a residency position with the Animal Dermatology Clinic’s Tustin, California location in 2011. She became a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Dermatology in 2014. Dr. Bourgeois moved to Portland, Oregon in 2016 to help expand the company. She is an owner within the company and on the board of directors. She has a strong interest in autoimmune skin diseases, allergies, cytology, and otology. In her leisure, Dr. Bourgeois enjoys outdoor activities, traveling, and watching sports. She and her husband stay busy with their daughter, son, and rescue Lab/Boxer/Pit mix. Dr. Bourgeois is passionate about educating veterinarians in dermatology and work/life integration through her podcast, lecturing, and social media presence (The Derm Vet).

252 - The Battle For Privacy In Mental Health Or Substance Use Disorders Feb 01, 2024

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Dr. Beth Venit joins Dr. Andy Roark to discuss some of the laws and regulations surrounding licensed professionals facing mental health and substance use disorders. They explore how these regulations can often become barriers to seeking the necessary help. Dr. Beth Venit dives into the intricacies of the recently enacted model regulation known as Safe Haven. This innovative program is specifically crafted to assist licensees in seeking support while maintaining their ability to continue working.

LINKS Federation of State Physician Health Programs, Inc. (FSPHP): https://www.fsphp.org/ Model Regulations - Safe Haven Program (Download): https://www.aavsb.org/Download?url=scl/fi/la9qq8ib249c5cy25ip1o/Model-Regulation-for-a-Safe-Haven-Program.pdf?rlkey=xamzcxlzgf7msc9obkaafng75 LinkedIn: Beth Venit VMD, MPH, DACVPM: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beth-venit-vmd-mph-dacvpm-7a840ab/overlay/about-this-profile

ABOUT OUR GUEST Dr. Beth Venit VMD is a graduate from the University of Pennsylvania's School of Veterinary Medicine, Class of 2007. Throughout the area of Washington, DC, she practiced small animal medicine, both ER and GP, as both a full-time associate and a relief veterinarian for the next 12 years. In that time, she earned her Masters of Public Health from the University of Iowa and became a Diplomate in the American College of Veterinary Preventive Medicine. She then worked at the US Department of State, first as a fellow with the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and then as a full-time project manager focused on training foreign partners on biorisk management and the prevention of bioterrorism. In 2022, she joined the American Association for Veterinary State Boards as their first Chief Veterinary Officer. In her free time, she enjoys hiking in various parts of the world with her husband (past trips include hiking the Grand Canyon Rim to Rim, the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu, several 14ers in Colorado, and a successful summit of Kilimanjaro), and being lazy on the couch with her pittie mix, Eleanor Woofsevelt and maine coon/tiger mix, The Chairman Meow.

COS - 251 - A Pentobarbital Problem - Post - Euthanasia Risks Are Real Jan 25, 2024

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In this episode of the Cone of Shame Veterinary Podcast, host Dr. Andy Roark discusses the post-euthanasia risks associated with pentobarbital injection. Dr. Warren Hess, the first author on a notable paper in JAVMA on the subject offers valuable insight as their conversation dives into the environmental and legal implications veterinarians may face after performing euthanasia using pentobarbital. Dr. Hess emphasizes the importance of understanding the drug's impact beyond the act of euthanasia, addressing issues such as liability, rendering, and potential impacts on food and feed. The conversation explores the need for better education among veterinarians and clients, and the importance of documentation to protect practitioners. Dr. Hess also mentions ongoing efforts by the AVMA to provide resources and education on this critical topic for veterinary professionals.

LINKS Article Referenced: https://avmajournals.avma.org/view/journals/javma/261/11/javma.23.03.0161.xml AVMA Axon: https://axon.avma.org

ABOUT OUR GUEST Dr. Hess is an associate director in the American Veterinary Medical Association’s (AVMA) Division of Animal and Public Health and as AVMA’s Disaster Coordinator. He provides technical and scientific expertise to the Committee on Environmental Issues (CEI) , the Aquatic Veterinary Medicine Committee (AqVMC), the Council on Veterinary Service (CoVS), and the Committee on Disaster and Emergency Issues (CDEI). Dr. Hess graduated from Colorado State University in 1989. He worked in small animal practice with an emphasis on birds and other exotic animals until 2004 when he began working for the Utah Department of Agriculture and Food (UDAF) where he served as a field veterinarian, assistant state veterinarian and 18 months as acting state veterinarian. He began working at the AVMA in 2016. Dr. Hess became involved early in his career with organized veterinary medicine and was elected president of the Utah Veterinary Medical Association (UVMA) in 2000. Dr. Hess has led several state and national organizations including serving as president of the National Alliance of Animal and Agricultural Emergency Programs (NASAAEP). Dr. Hess was voted Veterinarian of the Year in 2014 by the UVMA. He was the recipient of the NASAAEP Service Award in 2017 and the American Veterinary Medical Foundation (AVMF) Paws Up Award in 2018. He is married to his high school sweetheart (Lori), and together they have 5 children and 14 grandchildren. Dr. Hess has enjoyed the companionship of horses, dogs, various birds, and marine fish. He enjoys fishing, rowing/kayaking, and motorcycles and has completed a motorcycle trip from his home state of Utah to Alaska and back with his 87-year-old father in tow.

COS - 250 - When Veterinary Consolidation Slows Down Jan 18, 2024

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Dr. Andy Roark and guest Ryan Leech have an insightful discussion about corporate consolidation in the veterinary industry. They dive into the significant changes that have occurred since the end of 2023, and how this has shaped the business landscape. The conversation covers aspects like the impact of interest rates, the shift in executive teams in veterinary groups, and the emerging trends in the sector. They also highlight the importance of adaptability and originality in the face of these market changes. The episode is teeming with valuable insights for those interested in the business behind veterinary medicine.

LINKS: Article Referenced: https://todaysveterinarybusiness.com/veterinary-consolidation-112723/ Ryan Leech: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leechryan The Bird Bath Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/the-bird-bath-podcast

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Ryan Leech is an experienced leader with a history of growing businesses through highly scalable sales models. With a background that spans multiple industries, Ryan led sales for startups that raised over $100MM in funding and ran his own sales consulting firm. In his role at Digitail, he is responsible for overseeing collaborations and integrations with industry leaders and innovators to drive digital transformation in veterinary medicine. In addition to his professional experience as Director of Business Development at Galaxy Vets and Hippo Manager Software, Ryan is also the host of "The Bird Bath" podcast.

COS - 249 - Training The Team For Recommendations And Hard Conversations Jan 15, 2024

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Dr. Andy Roark engages in a dynamic conversation with Certified Veterinary Practice Manager, and Licensed Veterinary Technician, Bash Halow. Together they delve into the art of navigating difficult conversations within veterinary practice and the significance of understanding clients' needs for effective communication. This episode is brought to you by the Purina Institute.

LINKS: Purina Institute CentreSquare: https://www.purinainstitute.com/centresquare Get the new Purina Institute Clinical Nutrition Handbook for free! https://www.purinainstitute.com/sign-up?utm_campaign=pin-acquisition2023&utm_medium=influencer&utm_source=cone_of_shame_podcast_sparkes&utm_content=cr-clinical_nutrition_handbook_sign_up_pt-na&utm_term= The Purina Institute: https://www.purinainstitute.com Bash Halow Consulting: https://www.bashhalow.com Better Solutions and Employee Engagement with Design Thinking: https://www.bashhalow.com/fight-pushback-with-new-management-approach/

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Bash Halow CVPM, LVT, is a graduate of the College of William and Mary, a certified veterinary practice manager and a licensed veterinary technician. As a veterinary business advisor and a veteran practice manager with more than 23 years of experience, Mr. Halow has helped dozens of veterinary hospitals understand how to build stronger teams and responsibly and ethically grow their businesses. He is a frequent contributor to DVM 360, Vetted and other publications like AAHA Trends and Today’s Veterinary Business. He is a member of the advisory board for the Fetch360 veterinary conferences. He has been an invited speaker at all the major U.S. veterinary conferences including AVMA, AAHA, VMX, Western, Midwest, CVC, IVECCS; state associations, and international conferences like APVC, OVMA, the Alberta Veterinary Medical Association and addressed the Veterinary Management Association at the House of Lords, London, in June 2018. He is a member of the American Animal Hospital Association, the PVMA, founder and member of the New Jersey Veterinary Hospital Management Association, founder of the Big Apple Veterinary Management Association in New York City, and proud member of the Veterinary Hospital Managers Association. Mr. Halow was the 2013 recipient of the Pennsylvania Veterinary Medical Association’s President’s Award for management education in the state of Pennsylvania. He resides in New York City.

COS - 248 - New Research What Are Veterinarians Actually Willing And Able To Do About Suicide Jan 11, 2024

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Doctoral candidate Sydney Waitz-Kudla joins Dr. Andy Roark to discuss her recent peer-reviewed publication on securing lethal means for suicide in veterinary practice. WARNING: This episode discusses suicide and the means for suicide. Listener discretion advised.

LINKS: Article Referenced: https://avmajournals.avma.org/configurable/content/journals$002fjavma$002faop$002fjavma.23.03.0129$002fjavma.23.03.0129.xml?t:ac=journals%24002fjavma%24002faop%24002fjavma.23.03.0129%24002fjavma.23.03.0129.xml Lifeboat by NOMV: https://www.nomv.org/lifeboat/ Sydney Waitz-Kudla on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sydney-waitz-kudla-40b97383

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Sydney Waitz-Kudla, M.S., received her BA in psychology from Vanderbilt University in 2015. She spent two years at the Vanderbilt Kennedy Center and two years at the University of Southern Mississippi as a Project Manager before coming to Auburn in 2019. Sydney is a fifth-year student in the AU Clinical Psychology Program and Presidential Graduate Research Fellow. Her current research is focused on means safety intervention and suicide prevention for veterinarians. Sydney loves to travel and has lived in 8 states across the US. She has two dogs named Kiwi and Mango and has been riding horses for over 20 years.

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