"The Cognitive Revolution"

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Scouting Frontiers in AI for Biology: Dynamics, Diffusion, and Design, with Amelie Schreiber Dec 14, 2024

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Nathan welcomes back computational biochemist Amelie Schreiber for a fascinating update on AI's revolutionary impact in biology. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we explore recent breakthroughs including AlphaFold3, ESM3, and new diffusion models transforming protein engineering and drug discovery. Join us for an insightful discussion about how AI is reshaping our understanding of molecular biology and making complex protein engineering tasks more accessible than ever before.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:00:46) About the Episode

(00:04:30) AI for Biology

(00:07:14) David Baker's Impact

(00:11:49) AlphaFold 3 & ESM3

(00:16:40) Protein Interaction Prediction (Part 1)

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(00:19:18) Protein Interaction Prediction (Part 2)

(00:31:12) MSAs & Embeddings (Part 1)

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(00:34:49) MSAs & Embeddings (Part 2)

(00:35:57) Beyond Structure Prediction

(00:51:13) Dynamics vs. Statics

(00:57:24) In-Painting & Use Cases

(00:59:48) Workflow & Platforms

(01:06:45) Design Process & Success Rates

(01:13:23) Ambition & Task Definition

(01:19:25) New Models: PepFlow & GeoAB

(01:28:23) Flow Matching vs. Diffusion

(01:30:42) ESM3 & Multimodality

(01:37:10) Summary & Future Directions

(01:45:34) Outro

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Building Government's Largest Civilian AI Team with DHS AI Corps' Director, Michael Boyce Dec 11, 2024

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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan interviews Michael Boyce, Director of DHS's AI Corps, about bringing modern AI capabilities to federal government. We explore how the largest civilian AI team in government is transforming DHS's 22 agencies, from developing shared AI infrastructure to innovative applications like AI-powered asylum interview training. Join us for an insightful conversation about the intersection of artificial intelligence and public service, and discover why AI professionals should consider a career in government.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:01:00) About the Episode

(00:03:38) Introducing Michael Boyce

(00:05:49) What is Homeland Security?

(00:09:52) History of AI at DHS

(00:13:15) Generative AI at DHS

(00:16:03) Structure of the AI Core (Part 1)

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(00:20:51) Structure of the AI Core (Part 2)

(00:22:04) Opportunities for AI at DHS

(00:25:34) Bureaucracy Hacker

(00:30:34) The Manager's Role (Part 1)

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(00:38:04) Internal Chatbot Project

(00:43:28) AI Role Playing for Training

(00:49:55) A Request for Startups

(00:57:46) Generative AI for Quality Check

(01:03:20) AI Training at DHS

(01:06:07) Metrics and the Future of AI

(01:13:26) Non-Generative AI at DHS

(01:19:08) AI and Automation at DHS

(01:23:03) Join the AI Core

(01:28:39) Outro

Emergency Pod: o1 Schemes Against Users, with Alexander Meinke from Apollo Research Dec 07, 2024

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In this emergency episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan discusses alarming findings about AI deception with Alexander Meinke from Apollo Research. They explore Apollo's groundbreaking 70-page report on "Frontier Models Are Capable of In-Context Scheming," revealing how advanced AI systems like OpenAI's O1 can engage in deceptive behaviors. Join us for a critical conversation about AI safety, the implications of scheming behavior, and the urgent need for better oversight in AI development.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:00:53) About the Episode

(00:08:10) Introducing Alexander Meinke

(00:10:17) Red Teaming GPT-4

(00:17:07) Chain of Thought Access (Part 1)

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(00:22:48) Chain of Thought Access (Part 2)

(00:26:07) Multimodal Models

(00:29:33) Defining Scheming

(00:33:51) Taxonomy of Scheming (Part 1)

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(00:42:29) Taxonomy of Scheming (Part 2)

(00:43:09) Instruction Hierarchy

(00:49:04) Types of Scheming

(01:00:49) Covert Subversion

(01:14:25) Deferred Subversion

(01:28:24) Sandbagging

(01:35:48) Magnitudes & Trends

(01:48:18) Chain of Thought Reasoning

(01:57:02) Closing Thoughts

(02:05:19) Outro

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Automating Scientific Discovery, with Andrew White, Head of Science at Future House Dec 05, 2024

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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan interviews Andrew White, Professor of Chemical Engineering at the University of Rochester and Head of Science at Future House. We explore groundbreaking AI systems for scientific discovery, including PaperQA and Aviary, and discuss how large language models are transforming research. Join us for an insightful conversation about the intersection of AI and scientific advancement with this pioneering researcher in his first-ever podcast appearance.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:01:13) About the Episode

(00:04:37) Andrew White's Journey

(00:10:23) GPT-4 Red Team

(00:15:33) GPT-4 & Chemistry

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(00:20:19) Biology vs Physics

(00:23:14) Conceptual Dark Matter

(00:26:27) Future House Intro

(00:30:42) Semi-Autonomous AI

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(00:37:00) Lab Automation

(00:39:46) In Silico Experiments

(00:45:22) Cost of Experiments

(00:51:30) Multi-Omic Models

(00:54:54) Scale and Grokking

(01:00:53) Future House Projects

(01:10:42) Paper QA Insights

(01:16:28) Generalizing to Other Domains

(01:17:57) Using Figures Effectively

(01:22:01) Need for Specialized Tools

(01:24:23) Paper QA Cost & Latency

(01:27:37) Aviary: Agents & Environments

(01:31:42) Black Box Gradient Estimation

(01:36:14) Open vs Closed Models

(01:37:52) Improvement with Training

(01:40:00) Runtime Choice & Q-Learning

(01:43:43) Narrow vs General AI

(01:48:22) Future Directions & Needs

(01:53:22) Future House: What's Next?

(01:55:32) Outro

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The Evolution of AI Agents: Lessons from 2024, with MultiOn CEO Div Garg Dec 03, 2024

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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan welcomes back Div Garg, Co-Founder and CEO of MultiOn, for his third appearance to discuss the evolving landscape of AI agents. We explore how agent development has shifted from open-ended frameworks to intelligent workflows, MultiOn's unique approach to agent development, and their journey toward achieving human-level performance. Dive into fascinating insights about data collection strategies, model fine-tuning techniques, and the future of agent authentication. Join us for an in-depth conversation about why 2025 might be the breakthrough year for AI agents.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:00:40) About the Episode

(00:04:10) The Rise of AI Agents

(00:06:33) Open-Ended vs On-Rails

(00:10:00) Agent Architecture

(00:12:01) AI Learning & Feedback

(00:14:01) Data Collection (Part 1)

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(00:20:51) Data Collection (Part 2)

(00:22:25) Self-Play & Rewards

(00:25:04) Model Strategy & Agent Q

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(00:34:39) Understanding Agent Q

(00:43:16) Search & Learning

(00:45:39) Benchmarks vs Reality

(00:50:18) Positive Transfer & Scale

(00:51:47) Fine-Tuning Strategies

(00:55:16) Vision Strategy

(01:00:16) Authentication & Security

(01:03:48) Future of AI Agents

(01:16:14) Cost, Latency, Reliability

(01:19:30) Avoiding the Bitter Lesson

(01:25:58) Agent-Assisted Future

(01:27:11) Outro

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Beyond Preference Alignment: Teaching AIs to Play Roles & Respect Norms, with Tan Zhi Xuan Nov 30, 2024

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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores groundbreaking perspectives on AI alignment with MIT PhD student Tan Zhi Xuan. We dive deep into Xuan's critique of preference-based AI alignment and their innovative proposal for role-based AI systems guided by social consensus. The conversation extends into their fascinating work on how AI agents can learn social norms through Bayesian rule induction. Join us for an intellectually stimulating discussion that bridges philosophical theory with practical implementation in AI development.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:01:09) About the Episode

(00:04:25) Guest Intro

(00:06:25) Xuan's Background

(00:12:03) AI Near-Term Outlook

(00:17:32) Sponsors: Notion | Weights & Biases RAG++

(00:20:18) Alignment Approaches

(00:26:11) Critiques of RLHF

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(00:35:50) Beyond Preferences

(00:40:27) Roles and AI Systems

(00:45:19) What AI Owes Us

(00:51:52) Drexler's AI Services

(01:01:08) Constitutional AI

(01:09:43) Technical Approach

(01:22:01) Norms and Deviations

(01:32:31) Norm Decay

(01:38:06) Self-Other Overlap

(01:44:05) Closing Thoughts

(01:54:23) Outro

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Is an AI Arms Race Inevitable? with Robert Wright of Nonzero Newsletter & Podcast Nov 27, 2024

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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores the complex intersection of AI development and international relations with Robert Wright, publisher of the Nonzero Newsletter. They examine the growing militarization of AI, US-China relations, and the concerning trajectory of what Wright calls "the chip war." Drawing from Nathan's recent experience at The Curve conference and an AI wargame simulation, they discuss the risks of an AI arms race and search for alternative paths to avoid catastrophic conflict between global powers. Join us for this crucial conversation about the future of AI governance and international cooperation.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:00:59) Sponsors: Incogni

(00:02:20) About the Episode

(00:05:56) Introducing AI2

(00:09:56) Tulu: Deep Dive (Part 1)

(00:17:43) Sponsors: Notion | Shopify

(00:20:38) Open vs. Closed Recipes

(00:29:48) Compute & Value (Part 1)

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(00:37:02) Compute & Value (Part 2)

(00:42:41) Model Weight Evolution

(00:53:16) DPO vs. PPO

(01:06:36) Project Trajectory

(01:20:39) Synthetic Data & LLM Judge

(01:27:39) Verifiable RL

(01:38:17) Advice for Practitioners

(01:44:01) Open Source vs. Closed

(01:49:18) Outro

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Designing the Future: Inside Canva's AI Strategy with John Milinovich, GenAI Product Lead at Canva Nov 23, 2024

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Nathan explores the world of AI-powered design with John Milinovich, Head of Generative AI Product at Canva. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we dive into Canva's innovative approach to AI integration, from task automation to human augmentation. Join us for an insightful discussion about fine-tuning foundation models, AI's impact on architecture, and practical tips for AI product development at scale.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:01:13) Sponsors: SelectQuote

(00:02:26) About the Episode

(00:04:33) Introduction - Creativity vs Design

(00:08:39) AI-Assisted Experiences

(00:10:25) Automation & Augmentation

(00:15:27) Pixels to Objects to Concepts

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(00:20:40) Concept-Level Interfaces

(00:23:35) The Future of Design

(00:29:39) Human Element in Design

(00:32:49) AI Talking to AI

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(00:38:04) Purpose-Specific AI Experiences

(00:45:29) GPT-4 Image Editing

(00:51:17) Graduated Approach to Launch

(00:55:09) Fine-Tuning GPT-4

(00:59:10) Cost & Latency

(01:01:29) Hiring AI Engineers

(01:05:02) Engineering Best Practices

(01:09:00) Inspiration in the AI Space

(01:18:28) The Gen AI Application Layer

(01:24:26) Outro

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Everything You Wanted to Know About LLM Post-Training, with Nathan Lambert of Allen Institute for AI Nov 21, 2024

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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we dive deep into frontier post-training techniques for large language models with Nathan Lambert from the Allen Institute for AI. Nathan discusses the groundbreaking Tulu 3 release, which matches Meta's post-training performance using the LlAMA base model. We explore supervised fine-tuning, preference-based reinforcement learning, and the innovative reinforcement learning from verifiable reward technique. Nathan provides unprecedented insights into the practical aspects of model development, compute requirements, and data generation strategies. This technically rich conversation illuminates previously opaque aspects of LLM development, achieved by a small team of 10-15 people. Join us for one of our most detailed and valuable discussions on state-of-the-art AI model development.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:00:59) Sponsors: Incogni

(00:02:20) About the Episode

(00:05:56) Introducing AI2

(00:09:56) Tulu: Deep Dive (Part 1)

(00:17:43) Sponsors: Shopify | Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI)

(00:20:38) Open vs. Closed Recipes

(00:29:48) Compute & Value (Part 1)

(00:34:22) Sponsors: 80,000 Hours | Notion

(00:37:02) Compute & Value (Part 2)

(00:42:41) Model Weight Evolution

(00:53:16) DPO vs. PPO

(01:06:36) Project Trajectory

(01:20:39) Synthetic Data & LLM Judge

(01:27:39) Verifiable RL

(01:38:17) Advice for Practitioners

(01:44:01) Open Source vs. Closed

(01:49:18) Outro

Zvi’s POV: Ilya’s SSI, OpenAI’s o1, Claude Computer Use, Trump’s election, and more Nov 16, 2024

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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan welcomes back Zvi Mowshowitz for an in-depth discussion on the latest developments in AI over the past six months. They explore Ilya's new superintelligence-focused startup, analyze OpenAI's O1 model, and debate the impact of Claude's computer use capabilities. The conversation covers emerging partnerships in big tech, regulatory changes, and the recent OpenAI profit-sharing drama. Zvi offers unique insights on AI safety, politics, and strategic analysis that you won't find elsewhere. Join us for this thought-provoking episode that challenges our understanding of the rapidly evolving AI landscape.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:01:03) About the Episode

(00:02:57) Catching Up

(00:04:00) Ilya's New Company

(00:06:10) GPT-4 and Scaling