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Hour 2 - We Recruit Our Problems Sep 28, 2026

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In Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, Clay Travis takes on the intersection of politics, culture, sports, personal responsibility, the 2026 midterm elections, transgender athletes, the Democratic Party and the changing political allegiances of American voters. Clay begins by previewing stories about the growing China-Taiwan threat involving artificial intelligence and explaining why he still reads print editions of the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, arguing that newspapers can expose readers to subjects that social-media and internet algorithms might never put in front of them. That leads into his reaction to a New York Times opinion piece by Roxane Gay advocating for the WNBA to make space for transgender women. Clay strongly challenges the argument, using it to launch a broader discussion about transgender athletes in women's sports, feminism, biological sex and fairness in female athletics. He contrasts Gay's position with his own definition of feminism, arguing that women and men should each have the opportunity to maximize their individual talents.

A major theme throughout Hour 2 is personal responsibility and accountability, illustrated through comments from Notre Dame football coach Marcus Freeman. After Freeman publicly acknowledged that he regretted the way he had addressed a player during a game, Clay praises the coach for admitting his mistake and discusses Freeman's philosophy of keeping internal team disputes "in the kitchen." Clay connects that example with another coaching maxim, "we recruit our problems," expanding the concept beyond college football to argue that many difficulties in life arise from individual decisions rather than outside forces. He says leaders, bosses, politicians and individuals become more trustworthy when they acknowledge mistakes instead of reflexively blaming others. Clay then applies that argument to the Democratic Party, contending that Democrats failed to conduct an honest assessment of their losses after the 2024 presidential election and instead avoided confronting problems with their political message.

Hour 2 of Clay and Buck shifts back to electoral politics as Clay discusses Republican divisions during President Donald Trump's second term, arguing that intraparty ideological and "purity" fights threaten the coalition that produced Trump's 2024 victory. He references the Charlie Kirk assassination and Tyler Robinson while criticizing infighting over the case and connecting the controversy to the broader cultural battle over transgender issues. Clay then turns to Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear, playing Beshear's comments about transgender students, youth healthcare and participation in school sports. Beshear argues that sports should remain fair while emphasizing compassion, parental decision-making and his concern about putting government in charge of athletics. Clay sharply disputes Beshear's reasoning, arguing that government intervention became necessary because of disputes over transgender participation in women's sports. He also discusses state-level policies and anticipated Supreme Court decisions involving transgender athletes, presenting the issue as an important cultural and electoral dividing line between Republicans and Democrats.

The political strategy conversation expands with Nicki Minaj, whose comments about President Trump, Democrats and the media become another major focus of Hour 2. Minaj argues that repeated negative media narratives about Trump can become accepted as fact by younger or less-informed audiences and encourages people to conduct their own research. Clay says celebrity political endorsements matter not necessarily because celebrities possess special political expertise, but because stars such as Minaj can reach enormous audiences outside traditional conservative media. He uses her comments to argue that Republicans must expand the Trump coalition, particularly among young voters and people who do not routinely follow politics, rather than simply "preaching to the choir." Clay worries that voters energized by the 2024 presidential election may pay less attention to the 2026 midterm elections, while highly committed Democratic voters continue participating in midterms, special elections and local contests.

That discussion leads into education, school boards and gender identity in public schools. Clay recounts a story from his wife about a family that moved from the Ann Arbor, Michigan area to Nashville after their elementary-school child encountered a school discussion about choosing gender identity. He connects the anecdote to the political battles over public education that intensified during COVID and argues that parents need to pay closer attention to local school boards and cultural issues being discussed with children. Returning to Nicki Minaj, Clay plays additional comments in which she argues that Black Americans who depart from Democratic political orthodoxy can face criticism and smear campaigns. Clay connects those remarks to what he sees as a wider political realignment involving Black men, Hispanic men and Asian men, suggesting that culturally moderate or conservative minority voters could become increasingly uncomfortable with the modern Democratic Party.

Finally, Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show looks ahead to both the 2028 presidential election and Hour 3 of the program. Clay predicts that Kamala Harris could again emerge as the Democratic presidential nominee and forecasts a heavily identity-focused campaign, potentially against Vice President JD Vance as the Republican nominee. He argues that some longtime Democratic voters remain attached to a version of the party they remember from the Bill Clinton or Barack Obama eras rather than its current positions. That sets up the upcoming conversation with Alan Dershowitz, whom Clay plans to question about leaving the Democratic Party after decades of affiliation, including how Jewish voters view today's Democratic Party. Clay also previews further coverage of the Lindsay Clancy case, including the holdout juror and the juror's attorney, while promising to ask Dershowitz for his legal analysis of the case.

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Hour 3 - Why I Left the Democrat Party Sep 28, 2026

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In Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, Clay Travis is joined by renowned criminal defense attorney Alan Dershowitz for an extensive conversation about his departure from the Democratic Party, his new book Why I Quit the Democrats, and So Should You: Confessions of a Reluctant Republican, the future of Jewish voters, Israel, DEI, meritocracy, identity politics, transgender athletes in women’s sports, higher education and the Lindsay Clancy trial. Dershowitz explains why he first became an independent and then a self-described “reluctant Republican,” saying he wants Republicans to retain control of Congress even though he does not agree with every position in the party. He identifies attitudes toward Israel and Hamas, as well as what he sees as the Democratic Party’s movement away from merit-based decision-making toward diversity, equity and inclusion, as major reasons for his political transformation. Clay and Dershowitz discuss whether other longtime Jewish Democrats could make a similar political shift, particularly in battleground states such as Michigan, and Dershowitz argues that Republicans are now better aligned with his priorities involving America, Israel and world peace.

The Dershowitz interview in Hour 3 develops into a larger debate over meritocracy versus identity politics. Clay raises the dispute over transgender athletes participating in women’s sports, while Dershowitz argues for maintaining separate competition for biological men and women and praises the quality and popularity of the WNBA. Looking at the Democratic Party historically, Clay asks what figures including John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Bill Clinton would make of today's party. Dershowitz argues that the modern Democratic Party differs fundamentally from the party he supported for decades and says Bill Clinton has remained particularly supportive of Israel even if he has not broadly repudiated his party. Dershowitz also describes criticism and professional consequences he says he has encountered since his political evolution, including difficulties getting his new book into bookstores and receiving speaking invitations at Harvard University. He contends that American higher education has increasingly elevated identity politics over the marketplace of ideas and academic merit.

Clay and Dershowitz continue their discussion of DEI and Democratic politics by examining Kamala Harris, the 2024 presidential election and the future of the party. Dershowitz argues that Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro’s Jewish identity and refusal to distance himself from Israel hurt his vice-presidential prospects, and he discusses Jewish Democratic figures including Shapiro, JB Pritzker, Jon Ossoff and Rahm Emanuel in the context of future presidential politics. Clay then brings up Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and Joe Biden’s pledge to nominate a Black woman to the Supreme Court. Dershowitz criticizes announcing racial and gender criteria before choosing a nominee but pushes back on Clay’s suggestion that Jackson represents mediocrity, describing her credentials positively and arguing that the proper standard should be selecting the most qualified person regardless of race or gender.

The legal conversation turns to the Lindsay Clancy case and mistrial, with Clay asking Dershowitz to assess the jury’s inability to reach a unanimous verdict and the lone holdout juror. Dershowitz says the case raises difficult questions involving criminal responsibility and mental illness and that reasonable people can disagree over the proper verdict. He expresses surprise that the jury split so heavily, with a single holdout, and notes that lone holdouts in his experience are often associated with acquittal rather than conviction. Dershowitz predicts the legal process could ultimately result in a plea agreement and says he expects Clancy to remain in a psychiatric institution regardless of the eventual legal resolution.

A major portion of Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show then features Clay’s interview with President Donald Trump from the Texas-Tennessee college football game in Knoxville. Trump discusses the atmosphere at Neyland Stadium, his enthusiasm for college football and efforts to protect the structure of college sports through federal legislation, citing broad bipartisan Senate support and expressing confidence that House Speaker Mike Johnson can move legislation through the House. The conversation covers Arch Manning, Peyton Manning and Eli Manning, along with Trump's enjoyment of major American sporting events and his role as honorary chairman of the Presidents Cup golf tournament. Asked about the potential for a Major League Baseball work stoppage, Trump says he would be willing to help mediate between MLB players and owners if appropriate, while briefly discussing international diplomacy and the Russia-Ukraine war, including Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

The Trump sports conversation also dives into some of the worst trades in sports history, including Babe Ruth, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and the blockbuster Herschel Walker trade, as well as the Dallas Mavericks’ trade involving Luka Dončić. The discussion then pivots from sports to crime and public safety, as Clay asks Trump about falling crime and whether similar policies could be applied in Chicago. Trump discusses his administration’s efforts in Washington, D.C., Memphis and New Orleans, credits federal involvement and the National Guard with significant reductions in crime, and argues that these changes have not received sufficient media attention. Trump and Clay also discuss soaring NFL franchise valuations and the broader value of professional sports teams before Trump turns to the U.S. economy, domestic investment and new factory construction, touting what he describes as massive investment commitments to the United States.

After the Trump interview, Clay briefly reacts to Texas defeating Tennessee 20-17, questioning Tennessee’s offensive execution after recovering an onside kick. Hour 3 then returns to the Lindsay Clancy case after Clay plays remarks from an attorney representing the holdout juror. The attorney emphasizes the three children as the victims of the case and strongly condemns Clancy. Clay praises the holdout juror for refusing to change his position despite days of deliberations and subsequent public criticism, and he says the show would welcome the juror as a guest. Clay closes the hour with a broader argument about courage, conscience, truth and individual responsibility, using the juror as an example of how a single person can resist intense pressure and affect the outcome of an important proceeding. He ends the Monday program by noting that Buck Sexton, who was attending the burial of a family member at Arlington National Cemetery, is expected to return Tuesday.

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It's a Numbers Game: Everyone Is Talking About a Blue Wave. The Data Tells a More Complicated Story Sep 28, 2026

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Is a massive Democratic blue wave really coming in the 2026 midterm elections—or are the headlines getting ahead of the data?

Ryan Girdusky breaks down the latest 2026 midterm polling, the congressional map, Senate races, and the first early-voting numbers as Election Day approaches.

Ryan examines predictions of huge Democratic gains and explains why political polarization makes nationwide electoral waves different from those of previous generations. He looks at Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin and other key states, including what early turnout may—and may not—tell us about Republican and Democratic enthusiasm.

Plus, Ryan digs into the battle for the Senate, including Texas, Ohio, Alaska and Iowa; discusses Nate Silver’s analysis of Democratic gains in red states; and explains why turnout among lower-propensity voters could matter enormously this November.

Later, Ryan answers listener questions about Nikole Hannah-Jones and education, affordability and housing, the Trump tax cuts, immigration and former Border Patrol official Greg Bovino.

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David Rutherford Show: Black Rifle Coffee's Jarred Taylor on His Insane New Book, the Game Behind It & Helping Vets Sep 28, 2026

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Former Navy SEAL David Rutherford reconnects with Black Rifle Coffee's Jarred "JT" Taylor, years after their last sit-down, to talk about the most ambitious thing JT has ever built.

It started with a promise to a friend. When Colonel Pete Donnelly died, JT remembered the question Pete always asked him: "What do you got for me?" Three days later he started writing. Twenty-two days after that he had a first draft of Deep Scythe: Zero Hour, a military thriller about a carrier air wing that answers only to JSOC, where every character is a real pilot JT flies with in Digital Combat Simulator.

Then JT went further. Readers can join the Wet Boys, go through flight school, earn a call sign, and fly the actual missions from the book with the actual characters on the radio. David and JT get into why putting veterans back on comms "wakes them back up," how an 80s paratrooper learned to fly an F-16 in the sim in about a month, and why JT thinks artists who fight AI have the wrong mindset.

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The book: https://weexecutethings.com (Deep Scythe: Zero Hour on Amazon, Kindle, and Audible)
Timestamps:
00:00 - Cold open: "You wake him back up"
00:48 - Jarred Taylor returns to the show
03:42 - From VHS edits to writing without limits
09:11 - The drunk submarine trick for writer's block
10:31 - Colonel Pete Donnelly and A15 Publishing
15:50 - The book he owed Pete: a draft in 22 days
19:46 - The premise: a carrier that answers only to JSOC
23:08 - Read the book, then fly with the characters
25:56 - Inside flywetboys.com: flight school and call signs
34:44 - The Andy Stumpf surprise
36:29 - Two soundtracks, AI music, and the Top Gun mood
38:43 - How to start flying DCS without going broke
41:08 - Why veterans come alive back on the radio
46:26 - DCS and the 24/7 living war server
53:02 - The $4.5M report and the case for AI
54:57 - Where to find Deep Scythe and the Wet Boys

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Buck Brief - The N95 Lesbian Bar Meltdown Is Absolutely Insane Sep 28, 2026

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A Massachusetts lesbian bar is going viral after its decision to lift a long-standing N95 mask requirement for just one night a week triggered outrage, boycott threats and a chaotic community backlash. Buck breaks down the controversy surrounding The Last Ditch in Greenfield, Massachusetts, from the reaction to the relaxed mask policy to the bar's extensive community rules and the Zoom meeting that reportedly descended into chaos. What started as an attempt to bring in more business has turned into one of the strangest culture-war stories of the year.

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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Is Your Pediatrician Keeping Secrets From You About Your Child? Sep 28, 2026

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What happens when parents no longer have full access to their child’s medical information?

Tudor Dixon is joined by Alleigh Marré, Executive Director of the American Parents Coalition, for a conversation about parental rights, pediatric medical privacy, and the role parents play in major health decisions involving their children.

Tudor and Alleigh discuss policies that can limit parental access to some adolescent medical information, the American Academy of Pediatrics and its approach to gender-related care, and the broader debate over confidentiality between doctors and minors. They also examine Planned Parenthood, cross-sex hormones, youth sports, schools, summer camps, and the political battles surrounding gender policy.

Plus, Alleigh explains what parents can ask their pediatricians, schools, sports organizations, and elected officials—and why she believes mothers and fathers need to become more involved in decisions affecting their children.

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Clay Travis Show: President Donald Trump on College Football, Sports, Crime & the Economy Sep 26, 2026

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Clay Travis catches up with President Donald Trump during the Tennessee/Texas game for a wide-ranging interview.

President Trump joins Clay to talk about his love of sports, the importance of protecting college athletics, and the bipartisan effort in Washington surrounding the future of college sports. Trump also weighs in on Arch Manning’s NFL potential, his favorite sports memories, and some of the worst trades in sports history, including Babe Ruth, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Herschel Walker, and the blockbuster Luka Dončić trade.

The conversation turns to the possibility of a future Major League Baseball work stoppage, with Trump discussing whether he would be willing to help broker an agreement between MLB owners and players.

Clay and President Trump also discuss crime in Washington, D.C., Memphis, New Orleans, and Chicago, before closing with a conversation about the U.S. economy, investment, and the soaring valuations of professional sports franchises.

It’s a unique conversation with President Donald Trump and Clay Travis covering college football, the NFL, MLB, the NBA, politics, crime, and the economy.

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Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H1 - In Sickness and In Mental Health? Sep 26, 2026

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Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show focuses heavily on the fallout from the Lindsay Clancy case, the debate over the insanity defense, and the reaction from The View to Patrick Clancy’s decision to divorce his wife after the deaths of their three children. Clay and Buck discuss continuing scrutiny surrounding the holdout juror in the Clancy case and Patrick Clancy’s recent 60 Minutes interview, before reacting to The View co-host Sara Haines, who questioned why Patrick’s marital love did not endure after his wife became mentally ill. Clay and Buck strongly reject that argument, contending that the killing of a spouse’s children represents an extraordinary and understandable reason for a marriage to end. The hosts broaden the conversation into questions of personal responsibility, mental illness, gender politics, feminism, public sympathy for defendants, and whether someone found not criminally responsible for killing children should ever be considered safe to return to ordinary society. They argue that the public discussion surrounding Lindsay Clancy reflects a troubling willingness among some commentators to prioritize sympathy for an accused or convicted offender over the victims of violent crime.

The discussion then turns to Sunny Hostin and her revelation that, before attending law school, she served as the holdout juror in the Daniel Rakowitz “Butcher of Tompkins Square Park” case in New York City. Hostin recounts how she ultimately persuaded the jury to find Rakowitz not criminally responsible by reason of insanity, despite the gruesome circumstances surrounding the killing and dismemberment of his victim. Clay and Buck use Hostin’s account to examine what they see as fundamental problems with the legal standard for the insanity defense, particularly when a defendant takes deliberate actions after a killing that appear designed to conceal the crime. They question whether evidence of panic, concealment, or attempts to avoid detection can coexist with a claim that a defendant could not appreciate the wrongfulness of his actions. The hosts also compare the Rakowitz case with the continuing Lindsay Clancy debate, arguing that insanity defenses should face far greater skepticism, especially when children are victims.

Hour 1 expands from these criminal cases into a larger debate about crime, punishment, accountability, progressive politics, gender differences, and American culture. Clay and Buck criticize what they characterize as a strain of progressive thinking that extends greater compassion toward perpetrators than victims, contrasting the views of people insulated from crime with those living in communities more directly affected by it. Their conversation encompasses identity politics, political differences between male and female voters, social-media culture, reactions to Luigi Mangione and Charlie Kirk, and a TikTok trend they say involves women discussing abortions after learning they are carrying boys, a subject they preview for a future conversation with Isabel Brown. Buck also invokes the history of European and American witch trials while discussing changing cultural attitudes toward women accused of harming children.

A caller raises a gender-reversal hypothetical involving Patrick and Lindsay Clancy, prompting Clay and Buck to ask how the legal system and media would respond if a father had killed his three children, or if a grieving father violently retaliated after discovering his children had been murdered. From there, they compare temporary insanity and PTSD defenses, argue that functioning in society should generally carry an expectation of criminal responsibility, and debate whether mental illness should excuse particularly horrific crimes against children. The conversation concludes with a broader discussion of the death penalty, including cases where there is video evidence identifying the perpetrator, Buck’s evolving support for capital punishment despite his Catholic faith, and a brief discussion of The Green Mile and its anti-death-penalty themes.

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Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H2 - Is Kamala Running Again? Sep 26, 2026

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Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show begins with a wave of listener reaction to the Lindsay Clancy case, as Clay and Buck continue their debate over the insanity defense, postpartum depression, postpartum psychosis, criminal responsibility, mental health, gender double standards, and accountability for violent crime. Callers who say they personally experienced postpartum depression argue that experiencing disturbing thoughts is fundamentally different from acting on them, while Clay and Buck contend that mental illness or hormonal changes should not automatically eliminate responsibility for criminal conduct. They explore a series of gender-reversal hypotheticals, asking how the legal system, media, and public would react if a man blamed hormones, psychiatric medication, or a temporary psychological break for committing a serious violent crime.

The hosts argue that the public response would be dramatically different and question what they see as a gender-based double standard surrounding the Clancy case. The conversation also touches on vigilantism, jury nullification, parental reactions to crimes against children, regional differences in jury attitudes, and what could happen to Clancy if prosecutors do not obtain a conviction. A caller challenges the premise that Clancy killed her children, leading Clay, drawing on his experience as an attorney, to reject online theories suggesting somebody else was responsible and to warn about misinformation spreading through social media surrounding high-profile criminal cases.

The second half of Hour 2 shifts sharply into Kamala Harris and the 2028 presidential election, after Harris makes a political appearance in Detroit and says she has not decided whether she will run for president again. Clay and Buck analyze Harris's defense of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) in the context of Black maternal health and discuss how identity politics, Black women voters, transgender politics, and progressive terminology could shape a potential Kamala Harris 2028 campaign. They revisit controversies from Harris's previous campaigns, including her past position involving taxpayer-funded gender-transition procedures for incarcerated undocumented immigrants, and debate whether her political messaging could succeed in a Democratic presidential primary while creating serious problems with white working-class voters, Rust Belt voters, swing-state voters, and the national electorate. They also react to Harris's argument that the 2026 midterm elections must come first before 2028 becomes relevant.

Clay and Buck then dig into speculation from former Harris advisers about whether she will actually enter the 2028 Democratic presidential primary. They discuss former senior adviser David Plouffe's assessment that Harris's strongest moment could be the opening day of her campaign, skepticism among major Democratic donors, and reports suggesting people close to Harris do not believe she possesses an overriding need to become president. Buck considers whether Harris could instead embrace life as a wealthy Democratic power broker, fundraiser and political kingmaker, while Clay remains convinced that her political circumstances make another presidential campaign likely. Their strategic analysis examines South Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire and Nevada, Harris's potential strength with Black Democratic primary voters, campaign fundraising, the influence of major donors, and potential Republican 2028 candidates including Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Clay argues that even Democratic donors initially reluctant to support Harris would ultimately rally behind her if she secured the nomination.

The hosts also debate Harris's political personality and public image, including whether she would prefer the post-political celebrity lifestyle associated with Michelle Obama or would continue pursuing the presidency as Joe Biden did. They examine Harris's perceived authenticity problems and argue that intensive political coaching can make candidates appear overly calculated when they focus excessively on gestures, speaking style, tone and reactions to criticism. Hour 2 winds down with additional listener calls returning to the Clancy case, including a hypothetical about whether the legal response would be different if the victims had been someone else's children and another discussion of PTSD versus postpartum mental-health defenses. A caller also revisits the cultural debate surrounding Sydney Sweeney, pointing to her performances as boxer Christy Martin and Reality Winner as examples of roles that contrast with discussion of Sweeney primarily as a sex symbol.

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Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H3 - A Lesbian Bar Did What? Sep 26, 2026

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Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show opens with breaking news that President Donald Trump plans to attend the highly anticipated Texas Longhorns vs. Tennessee Volunteers college football game in Knoxville, where top-ranked Texas and Arch Manning will face Tennessee in a marquee SEC matchup. Clay, who also plans to attend, predicts a Tennessee upset while Buck backs Texas, setting up some friendly rivalry over which school is the “real UT.” The conversation then shifts to an extensive interview with author and commentator Peachy Keenan, who joins Clay and Buck to discuss the continuing controversy surrounding the Lindsay Clancy case, Patrick Clancy’s divorce, and reaction from The View. Keenan criticizes the feminist arguments surrounding the case and contrasts The View’s questioning of Patrick Clancy’s decision to divorce his wife with what she describes as a broader culture that frequently encourages women to leave unhappy marriages. The discussion expands into marriage, divorce, feminism, gender politics, social media, true crime culture, criminal responsibility, mental illness, and online theories claiming Lindsay Clancy did not kill her children. Clay raises statistics about women initiating a large majority of divorces, prompting a broader debate about whether social and financial incentives surrounding divorce differ for men and women and how modern culture treats divorced women versus divorced men.

Keenan also joins Clay and Buck for a discussion of a bizarre controversy involving a Massachusetts lesbian bar and its N95 mask mandate, after the establishment reportedly faced intense backlash for temporarily relaxing its masking requirements. The hosts and Keenan react to criticism that dropping the mandate discriminated against immunocompromised patrons and to extreme online responses directed at the establishment, using the story as a jumping-off point for a wider conversation about COVID-era masking, progressive politics, identity politics and political polarization. They then revisit the recent Sydney Sweeney cultural controversy, including a viral street-interview clip asking whether Sweeney’s provocative sports-betting advertising or Lindsay Clancy was “worse for women.” Keenan argues that hostility toward Sweeney reflects tensions within contemporary feminism over beauty, sexuality, body image, mental health and traditional standards of attractiveness. The segment ends on a lighter note when Buck’s young son unexpectedly enters the studio and joins him on camera.

Hour 3 then returns to Kamala Harris and the 2028 presidential election, with Clay and Buck replaying Harris’s memorable comments to children about space exploration and seeing the moon’s craters as an example of what they consider her highly scripted public persona. Clay argues that Harris’s political weakness comes from appearing overly concerned with how she is perceived, and he predicts that a prospective Kamala Harris 2028 presidential campaign would lean heavily into DEI, race and gender politics. While Clay continues to view Harris as a likely Democratic nominee, he and Buck question her ability to appeal to blue-collar white voters and Midwestern battleground states, while acknowledging she could potentially perform better in states such as Georgia and North Carolina with larger minority electorates. They also discuss whether Democrats will be hesitant to nominate another woman after the presidential defeats of Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Harris in 2024.

Attorney and political commentator Katie Zacharia joins the program for a wide-ranging discussion of California politics, Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris and the 2028 Democratic presidential primary. Zacharia reacts to Newsom telling Jake Tapper during a fly-fishing interview that he would not run for president if Harris enters the race, questioning whether Newsom may instead be positioning himself for another role or waiting to see how the Democratic field develops. The conversation examines the political relationship between Newsom and Harris, Newsom’s record as California governor, climate and energy policies, electric-vehicle mandates, electricity costs and the difficulty both California Democrats could face appealing to Middle America and key swing states. Zacharia also discusses Harris’s political activity in Michigan and her support for Abdul El-Sayed, while Clay and Buck examine Democratic fundraising, Harris’s expensive 2024 presidential campaign, potential donor enthusiasm and whether Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez could emerge as another national Democratic contender.

Zacharia then weighs in on the Lindsay Clancy case, rejecting social-media speculation that Clancy did not kill her children and arguing that online true-crime communities can blur the distinction between documented facts and amateur theories. The discussion returns to Patrick Clancy’s divorce and criticism from The View, with Zacharia defending his decision and calling for greater emphasis on the children, accountability and critical thinking. Clay and Buck broaden the subject to the influence of TikTok, Instagram, true-crime content and social-media culture on public understanding of criminal trials and controversial legal cases.

The hour's final major media discussion focuses on the proposed Paramount-Warner Bros. transaction and the future of CNN and CBS News. Clay argues that potential changes in CNN ownership could have significant political consequences if the network shifts toward more straightforward or centrist news coverage, thereby altering the media environment in which Democratic and Republican narratives compete. Zachariah discusses the proposed deal from a California business and political perspective, including antitrust concerns, California Attorney General Rob Bonta, Gavin Newsom, Paramount, Warner Bros., CNN and CBS, and predicts that a reshaped CNN could move closer to the center.

Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show closes on more personal and lighter subjects. Buck explains that he will miss an upcoming show to attend the burial of his wife’s grandfather, Rear Admiral James Flatley, at Arlington National Cemetery, recounting Flatley’s remarkable history as a Navy test pilot who landed a C-130 transport aircraft on an aircraft carrier. Clay reflects on Arlington’s significance and calls it a place every American should visit. The hosts then return to Trump’s appearance at the Texas-Tennessee football game, the Longhorns-Volunteers rivalry, Arch Manning, and Tennessee history involving Davy Crockett and Sam Houston, before wrapping up with listener talkbacks about childhood school paddling and one final round of jokes about Buck’s baby-blue cable-knit sweater

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