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    The CITIUS MAG Podcast | A Running + Track and Field Show

    Track and field’s biggest names on the track, in the coaching ranks and within the industry sit down and open up in-depth to share brilliant insights and vivid snapshots from their professional/personal accomplishments and experiences in the sport.

    Hosted by CITIUS MAG founder Chris Chavez.

    The show was named one of “The Best Running Podcasts” by Runner’s World.

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    Olympic Champion Cole Hocker On Life After Gold + Early 2025 Race Plans Dec 04, 2024
    Show notes

    “A lot of the time it comes down to whether I’d rather set a world record in February or win the World Championships and defend my title in September. There's a lot that goes into it, but I think I'm fast enough to go after a world record in a few events.”

    My guest for today's episode is none other than Cole Hocker, the 23-year-old American middle distance star who shocked the world at the Paris Olympics by winning gold in the men's 1500m. While the pre-race buzz centered on Jakob Ingebrigtsen and Josh Kerr, it was Cole who flew under the radar and stormed to victory in an Olympic record of 3:27.65.

    If you go back into our podcast archives, you can find an episode that we did with Cole in Paris just 48 hours after his victory. It was really cool to have that moment etched in time and to hear how fresh his thoughts and feelings were. We touch on life since Paris in this conversation.

    From his breakout performance in Tokyo to the Olympic triumph in Paris, Cole has established himself as one of the best middle distance runners in the world. We reflect on his incredible 2024 season and learn how he's gearing up for another big year with the World Championships in Tokyo on the horizon. Plus his participation in Grand Slam track's inaugural season.

    Cole is also here to announce that one of his first races in 2025 will be the 3000m at the iconic Millrose Games this February in New York City. You can get your tickets at the Armory's website.

    Host: Chris Chavez | ⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram

    Guest: Cole Hocker | @colehocker on Instagram

    Time stamps:

    4:02 - Highlights since becoming the 1500m Olympic champion

    6:25 - Plans looking ahead to 2025

    8:05 - What recovery looked like for him post-Olympics

    9:00 - Racing the 3000m at Millrose Games announcement

    10:33- How he’s getting ready to move up to the 3K

    11:50 - Why he’s racing the 3K instead of the mile at Millrose

    17:13 - Going after the 3K world record

    18:31 - Looking ahead to race plans for the 2025 season

    22:42 - Ways he’s hoping to continue improving

    25:44 - Deciding to sign with Grand Slam Track

    28:35 - When he’ll start race-specific training

    29:24 - His upcoming 600m race with Fred Kerley

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    BYU Coach Diljeet Taylor After Winning The 2024 NCAA XC Championships Women's Team Title | Recap & Reflections Dec 02, 2024
    Show notes

    “The pieces were there – but getting them to mesh and come together, we had to embrace the imperfect. We had to have these women realize that if you're scared of something, the only way to get over that fear is to conquer it. That was what this championship was for a lot of the women.

    My guest for today's episode is Diljeet Taylor, Head Coach of BYU’s women's cross country and track team. She's one of the most inspiring leaders in the sport. Coach Taylor just wrapped up a storybook season by guiding BYU to the 2024 NCAA Cross Country women's team title. It's their second national championship under her leadership and the program's sixth overall.

    This victory wasn't just about redemption. It was about resilience one year after a devastating 14th place finish at NCAAs – the lowest moment of her coaching career. Coach Taylor and her team embraced the imperfect, leaned into their depth, and executed when it mattered most.

    From butterfly mantras to pajama parties to brilliant race strategies, Coach Taylor proved that with belief and preparation, anything is possible. In today's conversation, we talked about BYU’s incredible turnaround, her approach to coaching All-Americans and building a winning culture, and why this year was a testament to her mantra, ‘Embrace the imperfect.’

    Host: Chris Chavez | ⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram

    Guest: Diljeet Taylor | @diljeetdosanjhtaylor on Instagram

    Time stamps:

    3:33 - Reflections coming off BYU’s team title at NCAAs

    5:03 - Finishing 14th at the 2023 Championship to winning in 2024

    8:47 - What she said to her athletes after NCAAs last year

    10:16 - How her coaching style has changed

    12:27 - Lexy Halladay-Lowry’s progression + working through an injury to finish 14th

    14:22 - What the evening was like with the team the night before NCAAs

    21:03 - Why the team got off social media the month leading up to NCAAs

    23:06 - “The Night Before Nationals” book

    25:46 - Frank Gagliano’s impact on her as a mentor

    26:55 - Overcoming last year’s disappointment at NCAAs

    29:12 - Goals and expectations heading into this year’s race

    34:05 - How the race played out

    37:27 - How the team celebrated winning

    42:38 - Looking ahead to next year’s team

    45:01 - What she hopes her legacy will be

    48:49 - Connecting with other female coaches

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    BYU Coach Ed Eyestone After Winning The 2024 NCAA XC Championships Men’s Team Title | Recap, Reflections, & Insights Nov 25, 2024
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    “The only magic thing about running is consistency. Consistent competence equals eventual excellence. That's kind of my mantra. So we try to stay healthy so that we can be consistent. We just keep on getting the miles in, getting the workouts in, and over time, good things happen. What was special about 2024? Who knows other than having the right athletes in the right position, the right belief and faith in their parts and goals, and going, ‘Hey, maybe we can do this.’”

    My guest for today’s episode is BYU director of track and field and cross country Ed Eyestone, the architect of one of the greatest years ever for American distance running.

    From Olympic medals and top-10 marathon finishes to NCAA titles, 2024 was nothing short of historic for Coach Eyestone and his athletes. Just this weekend, Ed capped it all off by leading the BYU men to their second NCAA cross country title in six years, holding off a stacked field at the Thomas Zimmer Championship Course. It’s been a dream season for Eyestone, whose year began with Conner Mantz and Clayton Young finishing 1-2 at the Olympic Marathon Trials and ended with BYU completing a historic NCAA sweep—both the men’s and women’s teams claiming national titles for the first time since 2004.

    We dive into Ed’s coaching strategies, his reflections on this monumental season and how he’s built a culture of resilience and excellence at BYU. From the roads to the track to the grass, no one’s had a better 2024 than Ed Eyestone, and we can’t wait to hear his take on how it all came together.

    Host: Chris Chavez | ⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram

    Guest: Ed Eyestone | @edeyestone on Instagram

    Time stamps:

    3:30 - Returning to campus after BYU won the NCAA XC Championship team title

    5:13 - Feelings and emotions after winning the NCAA team title

    7:16 - Strategy + plan for the men heading into the race

    10:54 - Using a whiteboard during the race to communicate with the team

    12:29 - Using olive oil to stay warm during the race

    14:18 - Backstory on the affirmations notecard on his arm during the race

    19:25 - Similarities between the men’s and women’s programs at BYU

    23:23 - Why everything clicked for the team in 2024

    27:53 - How the 2024 season was a dream come true

    30:44 - His process-oriented coaching philosophy

    33:19 - What the team got up to in the final days before the race

    36:48 - Casey Clinger’s impact on the team + how going on missions affects training

    42:42 - How his coaching style has changed + how he structures workouts

    45:56 - Thoughts on upcoming changes to the NCAA

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    2024 NCAA CROSS COUNTRY CHAMPIONSHIPS RECAP: BYU SWEEPS, GRAHAM BLANKS REPEATS, DORIS LEMNGOLE KICKS | BIGGEST WINNERS + LOSERS Nov 23, 2024
    Show notes

    Harvard senior Graham Blanks successfully defended his NCAA Division I cross country championship on Saturday, winning the 10,000-meter race in 28:37.2, narrowly edging New Mexico's Habtom Samuel.

    BYU became the first school since 2002 to win both men's and women's team titles at the same championship.

    Men's Championship

    Blanks' Victory: Blanks is the 13th runner in history to defend his title, cementing his legacy on the Thomas Zimmer course.

    BYU's Team Triumph: The Cougars scored 124 points for their second men's title, led by Casey Clinger's 6th-place finish and Creed Thompson's 12th. All BYU scorers placed in the top 50.

    Team Standings: Iowa State (137 points) finished second, followed by Arkansas, Wisconsin, and Northern Arizona. Defending champion Oklahoma State placed eighth.

    Women's Championship

    Doris Lemngole: The Alabama runner won the 6,000-meter race in 19:21, improving on her runner-up finish from last year. Pamela Kosgei of New Mexico was second in 19:27.8.

    BYU Women Dominate: The Cougars scored 147 points to win their sixth title, with Lexy Halladay-Lowry finishing as the top scorer in 14th place overall.

    Team Standings: BYU edged out West Virginia, with Providence, Northern Arizona, and Oregon rounding out the top five. Defending champion NC State finished eighth.

    Historical Context

    BYU’s sweep marks the first dual-team victory since Colorado’s achievement in 2002, highlighting their depth and dominance.

    Blanks joins an elite group of repeat champions in the 86-year history of the NCAA men's cross country race.

    The Big Picture

    BYU's historic team wins and standout performances from Blanks and Lemngole underscore the competitiveness and unpredictability of collegiate cross country’s biggest stage.


    2024 NCAA CROSS COUNTRY CHAMPIONSHIPS PREVIEW SHOW + PREDICTIONS (LIVE FROM MADISON, WISCONSIN) Nov 22, 2024
    Show notes

    For the third time in three months, the cross country world will descend upon Madison, Wisconsin on Saturday, and the stakes couldn’t be any higher. 31 men’s teams and 31 women’s teams punched tickets last weekend and a handful of star individuals round out each field. Both team races feature heavy preseason favorites looking to reclaim their top spots after late season losses, while both individual races are deep at the top with a handful of runners eyeing national titles. Fans are planning to pack the course in Madison, and they could be treated to a picture perfect setting with snowfall potentially in the forecast. More information on how to watch the meet, with ESPNU coverage kicking off at 9:30am E.T. Below we break down all four races, with a few sleeper picks to keep an eye on amidst the chaos that is NCAA cross country.


    You can read our official preview here: https://citiusmag.com/articles/ncaa-division-1-cross-country-championships-2024-preview


    Abdi Nageeye After Winning The 2024 New York City Marathon (2:07:39) | Race Recap + Reflections + Bonus Interview From 2023 (Live From Eldoret, Kenya) Nov 19, 2024
    Show notes

    “Especially after 36K, I was telling myself, ‘Even if they speed up, I have to go deep today…’ I was telling myself, ‘This is my moment.’”

    My guest for today's episode is Abdi Nageeye, whose journey in 2024 could only be described as redemption at its finest. The Dutch marathoner and 2021 Olympic silver medalist who just three months ago grappled with his appointment after withdrawing late in the Olympic marathon in Paris, roared back to claim the biggest victory of his career at the TCS New York City Marathon.

    In a thrilling showdown against one of the strongest fields in race history, Nageeye deployed patience, strategy, and a powerful finishing kick to secure his first World Marathon Major title in 2:07:39 seconds, making history as the first Dutchman and the first European since 1996. To win the New York City Marathon from his self coach training in Eldoret to a race plan honed by years of experience on the course, Abdi turned heartbreak into triumph.

    We dive into his reflections on Paris, his mental and physical preparation for New York City, and what this victory means for him moving forward. But first, you'll also hear a never before released interview with Abdi from my trip to Kenya in June 2023, where we discussed a bit more of his backstory and upbringing from being born in Somalia to settling in the Netherlands as a refugee and spending time in Syria before finally being adopted by a Dutch family.

    I initially planned for this to be released last fall, but didn't have a chance to, but I'm now glad it's finally out. It's fun because towards the end of that first interview, I asked him what he wants to accomplish and he finally gets it done. Part one is my interview with him in Kenya and then part two is my interview with him reflecting on New York.

    Host: Chris Chavez | ⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram

    Guest: Abdi Nageeye | @abdinageeye on Instagram

    Time stamps:

    2023 Interview live from Eldoret, Kenya:

    3:37 - Reflecting on training

    5:02 - Why he likes to train in new places, what he enjoys about training in Kenya

    9:05 - His backstory + stories from growing up

    18:10 - Why he considers Africa to be his home

    20:33 - Being embraced by the Netherlands

    22:06 - Why shifting to the roads panned out so well for him

    25:49 - What he learned from training with athletes like Eliud Kipchoge

    28:20 - Future goals for his running career

    2024 Interview after winning the NYC Marathon:

    34:51 - How training has been going since the NYC Marathon

    38:17 - What life has been like since our first interview in 2023

    41:00 - Current training setup

    43:28 - Paris Olympics marathon experience

    47:55 - Thoughts after dropping out of the Olympic marathon

    54:44 - NYC Marathon race breakdown

    59:03 - The final miles of the race

    1:01:03 - Thoughts when Tamirat Tola was closing on him and Evans Chebet

    1:02:36 - The point when he knew he was going to win

    1:06:13 - Emotions after crossing the finish line

    1:08:12 - Looking ahead to future races

    1:11:18 - Reflecting on his marathon career so far

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    NCAA CROSS COUNTRY REGIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS PREVIEWS + PROJECTIONS Nov 13, 2024
    Show notes

    Chris Chavez and cross country expert Isaac Wood are back to recap conference weekend and preview each regional meet going down across the country this Friday. Join us for our thoughts and predictions on who will qualify for the big dance in Madison, Wisconsin on November 23rd.

    You can listen to our last NCAA cross country season check-in episode here.

    Hosts: Chris Chavez | @chris_j_chavez on Instagram + Isaac Wood | @isaacew on Instagram

    Time stamps:

    1:51 - Conference weekend recap

    4:34 - Isaac’s biggest takeaways from conference weekend

    5:31 - Wake Forest’s men’s team looking strong heading into Regionals

    6:59 - Big 12s men’s recap: thoughts on BYU, OSU

    11:39 - Big 12s women’s recap: thoughts on BYU, West Virginia

    16:05 - Oregon women looking to become a title contender

    17:45 - Projected top teams at NCAAs

    20:52 - Explanation on how to qualify for NCAAs

    22:36 - Auto-qualifiers + at-large predictions: men

    30:05 - Auto-qualifiers + at-large predictions: women

    35:10 - Regions to pay most attention to on Friday

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    OLIPOP: For the past year, we’ve redefined Olipop as more than just a healthy drink known for its gut microbiome with a low sugar content and a much better alternative to regular soda. You know there are more than 16 flavors, including classic root beer, cherry cola, and lemon-lime. You know it as The Runner’s Soda. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get 25% off your orders by using code CITIUS25 at drinkolipop.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.


    SPRINT Season 2 | Episode-By-Episode Recap And Review [Your Unofficial Companion Podcast] Nov 13, 2024
    Show notes

    Chris Chavez and Preet Majithia review the second season of the Netflix documentary series, SPRINT. We share our thoughts and analysis on all four episodes and break down the top storylines throughout the season. You can listen to our review of the first season of SPRINT here.

    Hosts: Chris Chavez | ⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram + Preet Majithia | @prm_32 on X

    Time stamps:

    1:22 - Season 2 overview: cast, notable athletes missing

    3:42 - Season 1 highlights

    Episode 1: ALL AMERICAN

    5:32 - Noah Lyles

    10:21 - Fred Kerley

    13:10 - Christian Coleman

    15:40 - Gabby Thomas, Dennis Mitchell’s pro group

    17:57 - Little focus on athletes’ personalities outside of track

    19:48 - Highlights of episode 1

    Episode 2: CHANGING OF THE GUARD

    20:35 - Jamaican storylines

    22:23 - Kishane Thompson, Oblique Seville

    25:53 - Shericka Jackson

    31:27 - Julien Alfred

    Episode 3: GOING FOR GOLD: PART 1

    33:45 - Series shifts to the Olympics

    37:00 - Marcell Jacobs

    39:01 - Sha’Carri Richardson, Melissa Jefferson, TeeTee Terry

    44:10 - Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce

    48:17 - Shericka Jackson

    50:24 - Julien Alfred

    Episode 4: GOING FOR GOLD: PART 2

    56:32 - Men’s 100m final

    1:02:19 - Kenny Bednarek

    1:03:50 - Letsile Tebogo

    1:05:10 - Men’s 200m: Noah Lyles getting COVID

    1:08:36 - Women’s 200m: Gabby Thomas, Julien Alfred

    1:11:32 - How the series ends + U.S. men’s 4x100m relay

    Final takeaways:

    1:14:39 - Parting thoughts and final rating

    1:17:53 - What comes next + will there be a Season 3?

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    OLIPOP: For the past year, we’ve redefined Olipop as more than just a healthy drink known for its gut microbiome with a low sugar content and a much better alternative to regular soda. You know there are more than 16 flavors, including classic root beer, cherry cola, and lemon-lime. You know it as The Runner’s Soda. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get 25% off your orders by using code CITIUS25 at drinkolipop.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.


    Kingston, Jamaica To Host First Grand Slam Track Meet + Interview With 2x World Championship Medalist Rushell Clayton 🇯🇲 Nov 12, 2024
    Show notes

    “What made me sign on is just how it was pitched: the fastest people in the world. There’s not many leagues that sign you on as contracted racers. That’s new. And I like to be a part of change.”

    Grand Slam Track has confirmed that Kingston, Jamaica will be one of four cities that will play host to the action in the professional track league's inaugural season. In 2025, the first slam will be held at the national stadium at Independence Park on April 4th, 5th and 6th.

    Back in June when the league was first announced, Los Angeles was one of the four cities that was announced, but Kingston is the first city confirmed with dates. This is the same stadium that hosts the Racers Grand Prix and the same stadium that is packed for five days when it hosts the ISSA/Grace Kennedy Boys and Girls Championships in March.

    Grand Slam Track’s events will take place over three days with athletes racing twice. Athletes will receive points for their finishing position in each race and then the athlete with the highest points total after both events will win the slam and the $100,000 grand prize.

    So what does this mean for the league? Grand Slam Track will have a host city where the Diamond League has not tapped into with one of the most devout track and field fan populations in the world. The fandom around the sprints is a national tradition from the high school to the Olympic level and the league has already invested in Jamaican talent with three Jamaican racers in Roshawn Clark, who will contest the 400m and 400m hurdles; Ackera Nugent, who will run the 100m and 100m hurdles; and Rushell Clayton, who will run the 400m and 400m hurdles.

    So to get excited about the league and the first slam in Jamaica, we caught up with two-time world championship medalist Rushell Clayton at the Grand Slam Track Racer Summit in Los Angeles.

    Host: Chris Chavez | ⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram

    Guest: Rushell Clayton | @rushellclayton on Instagram

    Time stamps:

    6:04 - Excitement for racing in Kingsport for GST

    8:06 - Why she decided to sign on with GST

    9:32 - When the 400m hurdles event rose to a new level

    10:27 - What led to her 5th place finish at the Paris Olympics

    12:30 - Chasing after a new 400m PB

    13:05 - Thoughts on her competitors

    14:21 - Goals for 2025

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    OLIPOP: For the past year, we’ve redefined Olipop as more than just a healthy drink known for its gut microbiome with a low sugar content and a much better alternative to regular soda. You know there are more than 16 flavors, including classic root beer, cherry cola, and lemon-lime. You know it as The Runner’s Soda. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get 25% off your orders by using code CITIUS25 at drinkolipop.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.


    Joe Klecker On Preparing For His Half Marathon Debut, Training With Hellen Obiri + Thoughts On Ryan Hall's 59:47 American Record (Live From The TCS NYC Marathon Expo) Nov 11, 2024
    Show notes

    “We’re kind of on this journey to the marathon. The next logical step is a half marathon. That will be in the new year. We don’t know exactly where yet but we want to go attack a half marathon. That’s what all the training is focused on and that’s why it’s been so fun. Not that the training is easy but it’s the training that comes the most naturally to me.”

    My guest for today's episode is U.S. Olympian Joe Klecker of the On Athletics Club. He joins us with some news that he’s gearing up for his half marathon debut in early 2025 after a challenging comeback from injury.

    Joe is back and looking to tackle a new distance with a keen eye on Ryan Hall's American record in the half marathon. While his 2024 outdoor season was sidelined by a torn abductor, he's now fully focused on the 13.1 mile distance. He doesn't say it, but I think all signs point that it will likely be at the Houston Half Marathon in January, which is traditionally perfect weather and very fast. And while he's not quite ready to step away from the track just yet, Joe is already embracing the marathon mindset and this is one step forward to getting to the full distance with a personal best of 12:54 for 5K and 27:07 for 10K.

    Joe's incredible speed and dedication are setting him up for a strong entry into the longer distance. So in this episode, we'll hear about his approach to injury recovery, his plans for that debut, all with the guidance of his coach Dathan Ritzenhein and the support of his training partner and Olympic medalist, Hellen Obiri. He also shares why he's hoping for one more team on the track.

    Many thanks to New York Road Runners for allowing us to host this conversation in front of an audience at the Citizens Bank stage at the TCS New York City Marathon Expo.

    Host: Chris Chavez | ⁠⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram⁠

    Guest: Joe Klecker | ⁠@joe_klecker on Instagram ⁠

    Time stamps:

    3:43 - Getting to ride on the lead vehicle at the NYC Marathon

    5:21 - Thoughts on racing the marathon himself in the future.

    5:19 - Thoughts on teammate Hellen Obiri’s build leading into NYC

    7:09 - Details on Hellen’s workouts

    9:30 - Coming back from injury this summer

    11:04 - How his training has evolved since graduating college

    12:16 - Future races on the calendar

    15:03 - Going after the half marathon American record

    17:14 - OAC’s team culture

    22:30 - What keeps training exciting

    23:37 - How he approaches his future career in the marathon

    24:34 - Why track and the marathon feel like different sports

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