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When Your Client is a Survivor of Sex Trafficking May 04, 2023

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This interview starts with Prof. Emma Hetherington explaining why she thinks a huge barrier to effectively serving HT/CSEC populations is that stakeholders don't fully understand what trafficking is. In this powerful podcast, Prof. Hetherington, from the Wilbanks Child Endangerment and Sexual Exploitation Clinic at University of Georgia School of Law (CEASE Clinic), reveals how children's circumstances and behaviors need to be examined differently when exploitation and trafficking issues are involved. She discusses tips for attorneys representing HT/CSEC survivors, screening tools, the harm reduction approach, and how to build trust with youth. We hope you learn as much as we did!
Here are the resources referenced in the podcast:

Red Flags of CSEC and Child Trafficking, New York State Office of Children and Family Services: https://ocfs.ny.gov/programs/human-trafficking/assets/docs/red-flags-of-CSEC-and-child-trafficking.pdf
Trust-Based Relational Intervention: https://child.tcu.edu/blog-tbri-ffpsa/#sthash.c5E1aPKh.dpbs

For a deep dive, check out these resources:

How can the child welfare system protect young people from commercial sexual exploitation?, Casey Family Programs Strategy Brief (November 2022): https://www.casey.org/media/22.07-QFF-SC-CSEC-update.pdf
Child Sex Trafficking Warning Signs, Shared Hope International: http://sharedhope.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/General-Warning-Signs.pdf
Summary of Screening Tools: https://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/opre/IAHT%20Screening%20Brief%204.22.pdf
Criminalized Survivors: Today’s Abuse to Prison Pipeline for Girls (April 2023): https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Criminalized-Survivors_Georgetown-Gender-Justice.pdf
Sexual Abuse to Prison Pipeline: The Girls’ Story (2020): https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/The-Sexual-Abuse-To-Prison-Pipeline-The-Girls%E2%80%99-Story.pdf
Harm Reduction Series Introduction, California Child Trafficking Response Unit (2018): https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/BTB25-3E-01.pdf
Harm Reduction Series Caregiver, California Child Trafficking Response Unit (2022): https://file.lacounty.gov/SDSInter/lac/1125790_CaregiverHarmReductionI-31_22.pdf

What's Next for Your Teen Client? Mar 29, 2023

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In this episode, Angela, John and Jim talk about understanding your teen client, helping them set goals for their future, some ways to help them stay on track, and navigating the ups and downs when representing older youth.

Finding Permanency for Older Youth Feb 13, 2023

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If you're representing older youth, the issues may look the same, but the perspective is likely different. We recorded this podcast to help attorneys understand how the experiences of older children impact permanency and how to move forward. We've got some practical tips on identifying what family means to teens and strategies for attorneys to guide these youth to a place that feels like home.

Resolutions for the New Year Dec 31, 2022

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In this episode, John and Angela offer three ideas for your New Year's Resolutions.

NACC: More Ways to Connect Sep 14, 2022

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In this episode we talk with Kristen Pisani-Jacques, the NACC's training director. We reflect on some themes from the 2022 conference in Baltimore and highlight what is coming in the online conference. The NACC Online Conference is September 21-23, 2022, and features 17 sessions. You can register for the conference here.

Effects of Policing on Children of Color: A Conversation with Prof. Kristin Henning Jul 25, 2022

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This episode is sponsored by the National Association of Counsel for Children. Join us at the NACC annual conference in Baltimore, August 22-24, 2022. The theme is Bridging Theory to Practice: Learning and Unlearning to Drive Effective Advocacy. We hope to see you there!
In this episode we talk with Professor Kristin Henning, The Blume Professor of Law and Director of the Juvenile Justice Clinic and Initiative at Georgetown Law. Professor Henning discusses the traumatic effects of policing on children of color, and how children's lawyers can respond.
Professor Henning is the author of Rage of Innocence: How America Criminalizes Black Youth. She also mentioned several other resources, including Torn Apart: How the Child Welfare System Destroys Black Families--and How Abolition Can Build a Safer World, by Dorothy Roberts; Seeing What's Underneath: A Resource for Understanding Behavior and Using Language in Juvenile Court; and, for NACC members, her recent article in The Guardian, What Counsel for Children Need to Know About the Traumatic Effects of Policing (p. 31).

The Arriving Exercise Jun 28, 2022

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This episode is a companion to Trauma and the Children's Lawyer. The arriving exercise is something you can use when you are feeling stressed out or overwhelmed. It can help you to regulate yourself so you are prepared to meet with clients, go to court, or even go home. It is not recommended that you try this while driving. Thanks to Cynthia Bowkley for this helpful tool!

Trauma and the Children's Lawyer Jun 28, 2022

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This episode was developed in partnership with the National Association of Counsel for Children. Join us at the NACC's national conference in Baltimore August 22-24, 2022! Click HERE to learn more and register!
In this episode we interview two of the presenters at the NACC conference, Cynthia Bowkley and Rebecca Stahl. Click their names for a link to their webpages. Their presentation at the conference is Trauma-Informed Interviewing, but in this episode we focus more on the role of the children's lawyer in self-regulating and understanding how trauma presents in our clients. We discuss the role of somatic experiencing as a way to help people with trauma. Click HERE for the website of Somatic Experiencing International for more information.
As always, thanks for listening. If you have comments or suggestions you can message us at angela@childrenslaw.org.

Why We're Really Here: NACC's Cristal Ramirez on Youth Engagement Mar 02, 2022

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In this episode, Angela talks with Cristal Ramirez, the Youth Engagement Manager at the National Association of Counsel for Children. You won't want to miss this one! Her insights on youth engagement are valuable for everyday practice and systems work.
For our next episode, we are looking for a case to review on the show. If you are interested, please send your name, state and a few case details to angela@childrenslaw.org.

A New Child Welfare System: A Conversation with Public Knowledge Sep 28, 2021

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In this episode, Angela talks with Stacey Obrecht, President of Public Knowledge, and David Kelly, Director of the Family Integrity & Justice Works at Public Knowledge. Listen to learn about their work and plans to replace the child welfare system as we know it. To learn more, subscribe on the Public Knowledge website. Learn more about Stacey and David below.
Stacey Obrecht JD, CWLS, PMP PresidentCheyenne, WY
Since 2021, Stacey has been the President of Public Knowledge®. Stacey is responsible for providing overall direction and leadership for Public Knowledge®, with 20 years of experience working within governmental agencies, educational institutions, and non-profit organizations. She also has extensive experience in training development and implementation; leadership assessments and coaching; organizational change management; and organizational development. Stacey received her juris doctorate from the University of Wyoming and is a certified child welfare law specialist (CWLS) and Project Management Institute (PMI) project management professional (PMP).
David KellyDirector of the Family Integrity & Justice WorksHyattsville, MD
Since 2021, David has been the Director of the Family Integrity & Justice Works at Public Knowledge®. David has 21 years of experience working with nonprofit and public sectors, including roles at the U.S. Children’s Bureau leading the bureau’s work with the legal and judicial community nationally and serving on leadership teams across administrations to promote justice, inclusion and voice for children youth and families, empower communities and prevent the need for unnecessary family separation.
David has had prior roles serving as Director of Legal and Clinical Services for Covenant House NJ, Senior Assistant Child Advocate with the State of New Jersey Office of the Child Advocate and Assistant Staff Director and Staff Attorney at the American Bar Association Center on Children and the Law. David received his J.D. from the University at Buffalo Law School and M.A. in political science.

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