In-depth discussions of all things Catholic – theology, art, history and more – featuring Thomas Mirus with a variety of notable guests.
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In-depth discussions of all things Catholic – theology, art, history and more – featuring Thomas Mirus with a variety of notable guests.
A production of CatholicCulture.org.
Abriana Chilelli had to drive her children past a lewd strip club advertisement every day on their way home from school in downtown Denver. But instead of taking a fatalistic attitude and a detour, or worse, just accepting it, she got in touch with a city councilman and within days, the pornographic image was gone. We discuss her story and the lessons she learned about how we can still accomplish positive change in our communities, and the importance of teaching children the true meaning of their bodies.
Links
Abriana Chilelli https://twitter.com/AbrianaChilelli
Book mentioned in interview: Good Pictures, Bad Pictures https://goo.gl/XHNJzn
Book reviewed: A Bad Catholic's Essays on What's Wrong with the World by Marc Barnes https://amzn.to/2MZhQkl
Sample essay https://www.firstthings.com/article/2017/08/make-hell-hot-again
Marc Barnes's website https://bad-catholic.com/
1979 Wise Blood film adaptation https://amzn.to/2yJjd3N
Timestamps
00:48 Book review: A Bad Catholic's Essays on What's Wrong with the World by Marc Barnes
7:59 John Huston's film adaptation of Flannery O'Connor's Wise Blood
9:46 Abriana Chilelli interview
10:50 The lewd advertisement on Abriana's commute home from her children's school
15:07 Her attempts to get it taken down, and final success with help from a city councilman
19:54 What she learned: Don't assume nothing can be done; the problem of Catholic fatalism and the need to be in the public square and build relationships
22:00 Thomas's frustration at lewd public service ads on the NYC subway
24:36 #MeToo and America's reckoning with the consumption of women's bodies
26:06 Tact and truth: communicating your complaint in a way that accomplishes something
30:53 Abriana's work as curriculum director for Catholic schools in the Archdiocese of Denver; how to teach children about the meaning of their bodies
34:20 How pornography influences gender ideology
36:03 This week's excerpt: Pope Francis, Amoris Laetitia, Ch. 4, p. 151 https://goo.gl/yLgtwU
It would not occur to most of us to imagine that monetary has a moral component. Catholic prelates are as silent about matters like fiat money, central banking and inflation and as are the secular ethicists. But the production of currency is not just a matter for the technocrats, and the Catholic tradition once had something to say on the topic. Economist Guido Hülsmann has combined the moral-economic analysis of the scholastics, particularly the 14th-century bishop Nicholas Oresme (who wrote that debauching the currency is worse than either usury or prostitution), with the insights of the Austrian school of economics in order to formulate an authentically Christian Ethics of Money Production for the modern age.
Links:
Guido Hülsmann's website http://www.guidohulsmann.com/
Jörg Guido Hülsmann, The Ethics of Money Production: Buy https://amzn.to/2lifyQT or read for free https://mises.org/library/ethics-money-production
Thomas's series of articles on Prof. Hülsmann's book https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/articles.cfm?id=694
Read Nicholas Oresme's De Moneta for free https://mises.org/library/de-moneta-nicholas-oresme-and-english-mint-documents
Timestamps:
3:13 Interview with Guido Hülsmann
Part 1: Money and Banking
3:51 Silence of Catholic social teaching on money production; using scholastic tradition, esp. Nicole Oresme, as a source
5:38 What is the "Austrian school" of economics and why would the Catholic mind find it compelling?
10:58 Competing definitions of money: commodity or sign?
14:54 Origin and evolution of banking; from simple money warehousing to fractional reserve
21:00 Varying origins of fractional reserve banking in Europe
25:10 Absence of legal and contractual clarity throughout the history of fractional reserve banking; attempts by states to keep banks from going bankrupt leading to the creation of central banks
Part 2: Inflation and Its Consequences
34:53 Three unprecedented modern developments: the abandonment of precious metals, the imposition of fiat money, constant inflation
40:19 The first economist was a scholastic: Bishop Oresme on inflation and the debasement of coinage
48:56 Render to Caesar: does all money belong to the government? Oresme says governments may not alter previously existing moneys without the consent of the entire community
50:54 Inflation worse than usury and prostitution according to Oresme; deceptive practices by governments
54:01 Similar economic consequences of debasement of coinage and modern inflation: Enrichment of earliest recipients of new money at the expense of latest recipients
57:54 A uniquely modern recurrence: the business cycle as a result of fractional reserve banking
1:00:43 Central banks incentivizing commercial banks to irresponsible behavior leading to the 2008 financial crisis
1:08:26 Cultural consequences of inflation: a debt-based economy, borrowing and investment prioritized over saving, materialism and short-term thinking
1:12:45 This week's excerpts: Aristotle, Jean-Baptiste Say, Etienne Gilson
The Dominicans have just celebrated the 150-year jubilee of their ministry on Manhattan's Upper East Side. Fr. John Maria Devaney, O.P., host of the Order's Word to Life program on Sirius XM, takes me through the history of the Dominicans in NYC (which involves quite a bit of history of the city itself). From Rose Hawthorne to Andy Warhol, it is a fascinating and grace-filled legacy.
Links
Word to Life, Fr. John's Sirius XM radio show https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/word-to-life/id1416667926
Dominican Friars Province of St. Joseph https://opeast.org/category/word-to-life/
The St. John Paul II Society https://www.stjohnpaul.org/
The Angelic Warfare Confraternity http://www.angelicwarfareconfraternity.org/
Book mentioned by Fr. John, Pioneer Priests and Makeshift Altars: A History of Catholicism in the Thirteen Colonies by Fr. Charles Connor https://amzn.to/2Mk6Iyo
Timestamps
2:17 Father John's background and call to the priesthood
4:34 Parish missions: the beginnings of Dominican ministry in Manhattan in 1867; Catholic demographics in New York at the time
14:57 The second church of St. Vincent Ferrer that was built after the arrival of more Irish immigrants; Dominican Sisters of St. Mary of the Springs start a school
17:20 The English sisters who served poor immigrants and started the Dominican Sisters of Sparkill
21:07 Aside on Bishop John Hughes, St. Elizabeth Ann Seton, and Dominican friars out West
26:38 The first two bishops of New York were Dominican
28:47 The gilded age of New York: opening the Priory of St. Vincent Ferrer and the Mission Church of St. Catherine of Siena
35:07 The story of Rose Hawthorne and her founding of a community of Dominican sisters to care for poor cancer sufferers (the "Hawthorne Dominicans")
41:54 Rose's cause for canonization and its importance in combatting assisted suicide; her connection to Sloan-Kettering and Dominican hospital work in NYC more generally
47:48 The vital role of Dominican nuns and sisters
49:44 The current St. Vincent Ferrer church built in Gothic style by the great architect Bertram Goodhue
52:02 The stained-glass Aristotle window; his importance to the Dominicans
56:15 Developments in the neighborhood since the 1950s
57:39 Andy Warhol's attendance of St. Vincent Ferrer
1:01:28 Catholicism in the public sphere and art circles in the mid-20th century
1:03:42 The Dominican mission of influencing NYC as a cultural hub today; the Dominican contribution to Catholicism in the US is devotional life
1:09:55 The Our Lady of Fatima statue at St. Vincent Ferrer which was sculpted by Fr. McGlynn under the direction of Sister Lucia, the piece of St. John Paul II's bloodstained cassock from when he was shot
1:14:48 The importance of the rosary to Dominicans and all Catholics
1:18:56 How Fr. Matthew Carroll got the sisters to wear their habits again
1:27:36 This week's excerpt: Pope St. John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope
One of the most creative rock bands around today is Virginia-based indie rock trio The Duskwhales. Drummer/singer Chris Baker joins me to talk about their new EP, Hospital Dreams, a set of melancholic, folky acoustic songs he wrote while battling cancer. In this episode I also discuss the Metropolitan Museum of Art's controversial Heavenly Bodies exhibit, and give a couple of movie recommendations.
Links
Listen to and purchase Hospital Dreams on Bandcamp https://theduskwhales.bandcamp.com/album/hospital-dreams
My interview with The Duskwhales about their 2017 album Sorrowful Mysteries https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otc.cfm?id=1473
Follow The Duskwhales on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/TheDuskwhales/
Timestamps
1:32 Heavenly Bodies exhibit at the Metropolitan Museum of Art
Movie recommendations
12:34 Babette's Feast
15:28 A Quiet Place
19:41 Chris Baker interview (songs used with permission)
20:39 Song: "Hospital Dreams" by The Duskwhales
24:32 The story behind Hospital Dreams: Chris's cancer
27:41 Writing songs as a way of occupying time during chemo
28:42 Song discussion: "Hospital Dreams"
29:57 You can't spell the word "chemotherapy" without "mother": Mary in " All Her Wonder" and "Turn White"
32:20 The band's first time self-recording
33:56 Plans for a trilogy of albums
35:20 Keyboardist Brian Majewski's departure and return
36:10 Hospital Dreams cover art
37:23 Chris's ill-fated but diverting Twitter campaign
38:09 The Duskwhales' future
39:02 Music Chris is currently listening to; influences on Hospital Dreams
44:25 Weekly excerpt: Hans Urs von Balthasar
There is an easy, short, perfect and sure way to save our failing Western civilization that is often overlooked in the endless slew of books and articles penned by Catholic intellectuals: Turn to Mary. Carrie Gress's book The Marian Option: God's Solution to a Civilization in Crisis reminds us that in crisis after overwhelming civilizational crisis, Mary has saved the day when her children had the humility and simplicity to beg her for help. Our age is no different.
In this episode, Carrie and I discuss The Marian Option, as well as her latest book, Marian Consecration for Children, the importance of women in the church, and the pernicious attempts by "Catholic feminists" to remake Mary in the image of Beyonce.
Come, Holy Spirit! Mary, Mother of the Church, pray for us!
Links:
The Marian Option https://amzn.to/2IIYvSd
Marian Consecration for Children https://amzn.to/2KHydju
Carrie's blog, My Favorite Catholic Things https://myfavoritecatholicthings.com/
Helena Daily https://www.helenadaily.com/
Books on Marian consecration for adults:
St. Louis de Montfort: True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin https://amzn.to/2IEn4zB
Preparation for Total Consecration According to St. Louis de Montfort, Fr. Hugh Gillespie, S.M.M. https://amzn.to/2Lgqom1
33 Days to Morning Glory, Fr. Michael E. Gaitley, M.I.C. https://amzn.to/2KKnZ1Q
Other books mentioned:
The World's First Love, Ven. Fulton J. Sheen https://amzn.to/2IDocU9
Jesus and His Mother, Fr. Andre Feuillet (out of print) https://amzn.to/2s17cQA
Ultimate Makeover: The Transforming Power of Motherhood, Carrie Gress https://amzn.to/2KJ7LGh
Timestamps:
Carrie Gress interview
2:55 Carrie's book panned by wacky individual
4:15 Origin of The Marian Option—nothing wrong with Benedict, but Mary is more powerful, central and directly relevant to contemporary challenges
9:17 The big picture of Mary's influence on world history; Mary's influence on the Battle of New Orleans
10:12 Little-known intercontinental links between Marian events; example: Our Lady of Guadalupe in the Reconquista, the conversation of Mexico and the Battle of Lepanto
15:26 Why the Marian Option is not just an option
17:15 How cultures flourish under Mary
18:41 Why Catholic intellectuals look to their own pet projects to save the West and not to Mary; hang-ups about private revelation; the limits of argumentation
26:01 Carrie's new book, Marian Consecration for Children; giving children a sense of their mission here and now
37:01 The influence of women on culture
40:15 The importance of women, feminine spirituality and the Church as feminine vs. modern "feminization" of the Church
47:10 The attempts by "Catholic feminists" to make their own Mary
53:54 "Equal" is not a useful word
55:09 Women are demonstrably unhappier under today's model of womanhood
57:30 Sts. John Paul II and Edith Stein on feminism
1:00:59 The dangers of trying to create Catholic versions of ideologies
1:02:48 Carrie's new content aggregate site for Catholic women, Helena Daily
1:07:00 Books on Marian consecration for adults
1:10:24 This week's excerpt: Ven. Fulton J. Sheen
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The history of Catholicism in the native American nations is little known, but is rife with lessons for lay spirituality, inculturation, and the New Evangelization. Today's guest, journalist Peter Jesserer Smith, shares some of the holy treasures of American history, such as Joseph Chiwatenhwa and Marie Aonetta, the Huron "power couple" of evangelization, and the martyrs (numbering over a thousand) of the La Florida missions.
Links
Homily of Pope St. John Paul II at the Martyrs' Shrine (Huronia) on Saturday, 15 September 1984 https://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/homilies/1984/documents/hf_jp-ii_hom_19840915_santuario-huronia.html
Friends of God: The Early Native Huron Church in Canada, by Bruce Henry (tells the story of Joseph Chiwatenhwa and Marie Aonetta) http://www.wyandot.org/friendsofgod.htm
Eustace Ahasistari, Catholic Huron warrior, as described by Jesuit missionaries https://books.google.com/books?id=xqRBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA252&lpg=PA252&dq=Eustace+Ahasistari&source=bl&ots=7ifewQvpp4&sig=1sIn-WpAEKEBgaaEQOhwVvJDkfk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjehPf5ku_aAhWMnOAKHU7dDzYQ6AEIMDAD#v=onepage&q=Eustace%20Ahasistari&f=false
Articles by Peter Jesserer Smith
America's first paths of holiness: Lives of indigenous saints and martyrs https://angelusnews.com/content/america-s-first-paths-of-holiness-lives-of-indigenous-saints-and-martyrs
Hundreds of Martyrs Sow the Seeds of Faith in the United States http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/north-american-martyrs-sow-the-seeds-of-faith-in-the-new-world
St. Kateri Tekakwitha: Our Saint for All Seasons http://www.angelusnews.com/articles/st-kateri-tekakwitha-our-saint-for-all-seasons
A holy marriage gave the Church a community of native saints, and St. Kateri Tekakwitha http://www.angelusnews.com/articles/a-holy-marriage-gave-the-church-a-community-of-native-saints-and-st-kateri-tekakwitha
St. Kateri and the Four Holy Martyrs from Kahnawake http://www.angelusnews.com/articles/st-kateri-and-the-four-holy-martyrs-from-kahnawake
A proven path to holiness: Mentoring a saint https://angelusnews.com/content/a-proven-path-to-holiness-mentoring-a-saint
Cause Opens for Nicholas Black Elk, Holy Man of the Lakota http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/cause-opens-for-nicholas-black-elk-holy-man-of-the-lakota
Timestamps:
Peter Jesserer Smith interview
3:25 Why is native American Catholic history and culture important for the New Evangelization?
6:37 St. John Paul II's 1984 address at the Martyr's Shrine in Huronia
7:35 What were the missionaries impressed with in native American cultures? What aspects of native cultures resonated with the Gospel? In the Great Lakes region: family-based societies, devotion to the Creator
11:29 The lay missionary power couple of the Huron: Joseph Chiwatenhwa (a convert of St. Jean de Brebeuf) and his wife Marie Aonetta
13:51 Native American societies were set up almost more like the United States than like Europe, so the old European model of "convert the king and the people will follow" was and is obsolete
16:16 More on Joseph and Marie. Women have a lot of authority in Native societies in this region, so Marie's active involvement in evangelization is essential
20:35 Hostility from some natives because Jesuits inadvertently brought disease, leading to Chiwatenhwa's martyrdom
32:02 Joseph Chiwatenhwa was the first lay parish administrator in Canada; Native converts' devotion to the Eucharist, the Liturgy of the Hours, and the Rosary
34:18 Not everything in Huron culture was compatible with the Catholic faith. What would it have meant to be a Huron warrior who was also a Christian? Example: Eustace Ahasistari
40:00 Funny—well, it's interesting—it's not hilarious—story about Eustace Ahasistari's and St. Isaac Jogue's very different responses to torture
44:35 Reasons why these native Catholics have not been canonized; their continuing relevance
47:30 Ritual adoption and how it helped transmit the Gospel between tribes and nations—all the way to St. Kateri Tekakwitha; the importance of preserving the languages which spread the faith
52:38 The hundreds of martyrs of the La Florida missions
59:04 The lead martyr, Antonio Cuipa
1:11:18 The lessons of inculturation in native American nations are increasingly relevant at a time when more and more American Catholic thinkers are questioning the foundations of our country and proposing various alternatives
1:12:14 This week's excerpt: Mary Shelley, Frankenstein
Operation Rescue is the largest civil disobedience movement in American history. It even dwarfs the civil rights movement, with over fifty thousand people having been arrested between 1988 and 1992 for nonviolently blockading abortion clinics. Yet most people, even most Catholics, don't know the story. On the rare occasions when it has been covered by the media, it has been falsely and laughably portrayed as violent and extremist.
Today's episode is something of an oral history of Operation Rescue, told by Bill Cotter, head of OR Boston, who spent 19 months in prison for his involvement with the protests. You'll also hear from CatholicCulture.org's own Phil Lawler, who provided the public face of OR Boston while Bill was in jail, and also wrote a book about the movement in 1992.
Links
Phil Lawler's book, Operation Rescue: A Challenge to the Nation's Conscience https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Rescue-Challenge-Nations-Conscience/dp/0879735066
Operation Rescue Boston http://orboston.org/
Operation Rescue national website http://www.operationrescue.org/
Footage of police brutality against Rescuers during the "Summer of Mercy", in which tens of thousands of pro-lifers flocked to Wichita and thousands were arrested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSPto_gQ5CU
Footage of L.A. police breaking a Rescuer's arm with nunchucks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6H-8_VE6Oc
Timestamps:
Bill Cotter interview
3:00 Description of a rescue
6:49 Tactics to delay police from dragging people away
10:13 Factors that kept Operation Rescue from continuing to operate as a mass movement blockading abortion clinics after its heyday in the late 80s and early 90s: court injunctions, most people unwilling to go to jail for longer than a weekend
12:07 Most of the people involved were not activist types and the rescues were not demonstrations. They had a specific concrete goal: on that day, at that time, in that place, to prevent babies from being killed
14:31 According to Phil Lawler's book Operation Rescue, in between 1988 and 1992 over 50,000 Rescuers had been arrested—about six times as many arrests as during the entire civil rights movement! So why don't more people know about OR? (Need I have asked?)
17:00 Lack of support and even hostility from some Catholic clergy today towards pro-life movement
18:19 Police brutality against Rescuers in West Hartford, CT and elsewhere
22:22 Bill spent 19 months in jail
27:15 Mixed response to OR in Boston
29:19 The genesis of OR; the early days; getting more and more attention
34:06 Bill's participation in Rescues outside Boston; Rescues accompanying St. JPII's visit to the US in 1987; the Summer of Mercy in Wichita
37:39 What is OR doing today?
39:54 Is it true that the young people are becoming more pro-life?
42:05 Learning about Operation Rescue is a challenge to our complacency and desensitization to the continued toleration of abortion. Why shouldn't I be in jail right now?
47:51 Importance of prayer
49:28 How people can learn more and get involved with OR
50:31 Current signs of hope for the pro-life movement; eschatological hope
Phil Lawler interview
55:12 How Phil got involved with Operation Rescue
56:35 His first impression of OR people
57:52 Phil was the public face of OR Boston while Bill Cotter was in jail
58:47 Being arrested
59:55 Phil's interactions with the media on behalf of OR, personal experience of media bias
1:02:00 How the archdiocese of Boston treated OR
1:04:07 The media and others routinely accused OR of violence; Ted Kennedy made a speech saying OR had "a policy of firebombing and even murder"(!!!)
1:04:59 The optimism of the pro-life movement at this time
1:07:52 The draconian penalties judges imposed on the protesters
1:10:24 Why do so few Catholics know about OR?
1:11:02 Couldn't the Rescuers have called the bluff on these long prison sentences and brought the whole thing to a standstill? Phil gives his own personal answer
1:13:27 Joan Andrews, the Dorothy Day of the modern pro-life movement; today's Red Rose Rescues
1:15:20 This week's excerpt: Pope Benedict XVI, Deus Caritas Est
Tony Mockus, Sr. has been Catholic his entire life, and an actor for almost as long. He has worked with countless great performers including Henry Fonda, Elizabeth Montgomery, Robert De Niro and Kevin Costner. In this interview he discusses his seven decades on the stage and screen, the life-changing experience of being wounded in Korea, the role of the Holy Spirit in artistic performance, and his love of St. Anthony.
Tony Mockus, Sr. on IMDB https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0595166/ (note that some of Tony's roles have been mistakenly logged on his son's page https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0595165/)
Timestamps:
Tony Mockus, Sr. interview
4:54 How Tony prepared to play St. Paul in the Truth & Life Dramatized Audio Bible
7:24 Spiritual wake-up call: wounded by a mine in Korea
13:30 The Holy Spirit at work in an actor's performance
23:14 Life with St. Anthony
26:39 Tony's early years in Cicero, Illinois; digression into the decline of the variety show and the nature of Northern Virginia culture
31:25 A Jesuit priest at Tony's high school forces him to try acting, with great success
36:44 Tony and Thomas both played the lead role in The Man Who Came to Dinner as high school seniors, several decades apart, but Tony's production also included a teenaged Bob Newhart
39:00 Tony's first professional acting jobs as a teen
43:22 The spiritual influence of Tony's mother and grandmother
46:12 Traveling in the show Mr. Roberts, with castmates like Henry Fonda; Tony's formation from his Jesuit education and mother and grandmother allowed him to discern what to embrace and what to avoid in the traveling show business lifestyle
48:50 A brief move to New York, then back to Chicago where he starts to work as a leading man and gets married
53:19 Evangelical work for radio with the Pacific Garden Mission in Chicago
56:52 Keeping one's moral integrity in choosing roles
59:17 Tony starts working in film and television
62:17 The fun of playing the bad guy
63:07 The Untouchables (1987): Working for director Brian De Palma; funny story about Robert De Niro
1:11:29 Two great actresses Tony worked with; generosity and professionalism on set
1:15:15 A funny David Mamet story; politics in theatre
1:20:12 Retirement
1:21:32 Acting with his son, Tony Mockus, Jr.; advice to young Catholics who want to be actors
1:25:08 This week's excerpts: J. R. R. Tolkien, Jacques Maritain