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    The Catholic Culture Podcast

    In-depth discussions of all things Catholic – theology, art, history and more – featuring Thomas Mirus with a variety of notable guests.

    A production of CatholicCulture.org.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Episode 18: Acedia, the Forgotten Capital Sin--RJ Snell Oct 03, 2018
    Show notes

    Once included among the capital sins, acedia has been identified with both sloth and sadness. St. Thomas Aquinas, for example, defined it both as "disgust with activity" and "sadness about spiritual good." Today's guest, RJ Snell, argues that acedia is the chief spiritual malady of our age, underlying the malaise, nihilism and despair so prevalent in the modern West.

    Links

    R.J. Snell, Acedia and Its Discontents: Metaphysical Boredom in the Empire of Desire https://amzn.to/2xTTBhQ

    Thomas's 2015 review of Snell, Acedia and Its Discontents https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otc.cfm?id=1307

    Thomas's 2015 review of Nault, The Noonday Devil https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otc.cfm?id=1283

    Forthcoming book: R.J. Snell and Robert P. George, Mind, Heart & Soul: Intellectuals and the Path to Rome https://amzn.to/2zO9Uhk

    This podcast is a production of CatholicCulture.org. If you like the show, please consider supporting us! http://catholicculture.org/donate/audio


    Episode 17: A Civics Lesson for Catholics--Bob Marshall Sep 26, 2018
    Show notes

    Many Catholics have become cynical about the possibility of changing the political landscape, but perhaps we've given up before we've really tried. It's not just about electing the right congressmen and nominating the right justices, it's about keeping them accountable.

    In this episode, former Virginia delegate Bob Marshall shares practical insights drawn from his encyclopedic knowledge of the American political tradition and from his own achievements in politics: for example, he was behind the Hyde Amendment which stopped abortion funding via Medicaid. He reminds us that "To render to Caesar, you have to know the structure of Caesar's world."

    Did you know that Congress has the Constitutional authority to decide what kinds of cases the Supreme Court may hear? What about the possibility of amending appropriations bills to render SCOTUS decisions like Obergefell unenforceable? Have you given real consideration to the fact that local politics is the foundation for everything else? If not, you'll want to listen to this episode.

    Links

    Robert G. Marshall, Reclaiming the Republic: How Christians and Other Conservatives Can Win Back America https://amzn.to/2xSQxlg

    Jeff Mirus's review of Reclaiming the Republic https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otc.cfm?id=1565

    Bob Marshall's recent articles for The Federalist https://thefederalist.com/author/robertgmarshall/

    Msgr. John Sanders, the priest who played with Duke Ellington https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otc.cfm?id=1575

    Timestamps

    2:41 Bob Marshall's political career and recent defeat

    6:01 Why Bob wrote Reclaiming the Republic; natural law in the American founding

    9:25 Catholics ought not withdraw from politics: Biblical precedents

    13:25 Judicial branch is not the final authority on what is Constitutional; Congress's authority to decide what cases the Supreme Court can hear

    23:32 The importance of educating your representatives

    26:47 Bob's role in passing the Hyde Amendment; importance of the power of the purse

    34:13 Appropriations bills can be used to keep bad Supreme Court decisions from being enforced

    36:22 Our representatives avoid voting on the record so we can't hold them accountable

    39:24 How to get your representative to go on the record

    41:03 The oath of office—you can't fulfill it if you don't read the bills you vote on!

    44:15 Anti-commandeering laws, by which states can refuse to enforce federal laws

    48:47 Why you should vote in primary elections

    50:41 "All politics is local": issues that affect people's daily lives

    53:18 The importance of the precinct; door-to-door campaigning tips

    57:45 The role of corporations in promoting immoral policies


    Episode 16: Extremely Specific Middle-earth Q&A with The Tolkien Professor--Corey Olsen Sep 04, 2018
    Show notes

    In part two of my interview with Corey "The Tolkien Professor" Olsen, we discuss several extremely specific questions about Middle-earth, including: What is "magic" in The Lord of the Rings? Whogiddy-what is Tom Bombadil exactly? Do the good consequences of Eowyn's disobedience to Theoden justify her actions? Are orcs—possessing free will but seemingly evil by nature—metaphysically coherent?

    Links

    Signum University https://signumuniversity.org/

    Mythgard Institute (Signum's free programs for the public) https://mythgard.org/

    The Tolkien Professor Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tolkien-professor/id320513707?mt=2

    Corey Olsen's website https://tolkienprofessor.com/

    Timestamps

    Corey Olsen

    2:06 The ambiguity of "magic" as used by different beings and races in The Lord of the Rings

    12:13 Is Tom Bombadil God or a Christ-figure? What does it mean that "he is," and that he is "the Master"? Is Tom a Maia? West vs. east and resurrection in the barrow-wight episode

    35:04 Does Eowyn's fulfillment of prophecy in slaying the Witch-King justify her abandonment of her duties to stay behind and rule/protect her people in the King's absence? Simplistic feminist misinterpretations of Eowyn; Rohan's vs. Gondor's cultural values

    44:26 Eowyn's despair vs. Sam's; different kinds of hope; Sam's attitude towards his duty and the sense in which he lacks hope

    59:38 More on Eowyn, Rohan's debased cultural values

    1:07:02 How Tolkien developed in his concept of flat vs. round Middle-earth

    1:09:17 Are orcs evil by nature? How can that be if they have free will?

    1:15:22 What is the basis of the differences/superiorities/inferiorities among the races of Middle-earth, and how is it different from real-world racist theories?

    1:26:16 This week's reading: J.R.R. Tolkien, "On Fairy-Stories" https://amzn.to/2Cgo9Pm

    This podcast is a production of CatholicCulture.org. If you like the show, please consider supporting us! http://catholicculture.org/donate/audio


    Episode 15: Online Education with The Tolkien Professor--Corey Olsen Aug 29, 2018
    Show notes

    Corey Olsen, aka The Tolkien Professor, started out putting his college lectures out in podcast form, and ended up founding an online master's program devoted to the study of imaginative literature: Signum University. We discuss Signum, the state approval process, the current advantages and prospects of online education, some differences between Tolkien and Lewis, and reading Tolkien with children.

    Links

    Signum University https://signumuniversity.org/

    Mythgard Institute (Signum's free programs for the public) https://mythgard.org/

    The Tolkien Professor Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tolkien-professor/id320513707?mt=2

    Corey Olsen's website https://tolkienprofessor.com/

    Timestamps

    Corey Olsen

    2:38 Signum University approved by the New Hampshire Higher Education Commission

    3:02 Scope of studies at Signum University: definition of imaginative literature; Tolkien at the center

    5:54 A fundamental difference between Tolkien and Lewis

    15:23 The process of getting an educational program approved by a state board

    22:46 Corey's motivations to podcast: desire to communicate with more than a tiny academic audience, unfulfilled demand from people who want to study Tolkien seriously

    28:43 Making online education more than just an efficient correspondence course: real-time interaction and community

    33:14 Online education as an affordable alternative to bilking students and exploiting faculty

    40:00 Signum's free programs for the public at the Mythgard Institute

    47:04 How old should your kid be to read The Lord of the Rings?

    52:38 Moralizing Tolkien vs. Lewis: how they lend themselves to different ways of reading with children

    56:17 This week's reading: J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter 250 https://amzn.to/2PLXhcs

    This podcast is a production of CatholicCulture.org. If you like the show, please consider supporting us! http://catholicculture.org/donate/audio


    Episode 14: Priest & Actor--George Drance, S.J. Aug 21, 2018
    Show notes

    What's it like to be both a priest and a professional actor? George Drance, S.J. is the artist in residence at Fordham University, where he teaches acting, a resident artist in La Mama's Great Jones Repertory Company, and the artistic director of Magis Theatre Company. We discuss his religious and artistic vocation, how people in the theater world feel about working with a priest, how to take custody of your career and choose your roles with integrity, Catholic vs. worldly ideas of success, and more.

    Links

    George Drance, S.J. Fordham faculty page https://www.fordham.edu/info/25064/theatre_full-time_faculty/10013/george_drance_sj/1

    Magis Theatre Company http://www.magistheatre.org

    Timestamps

    George Drance, S.J.

    1:52 Being both a Jesuit priest and a working actor

    6:50 How Fr. George seeks God in his work

    8:11 Working in experimental theater with Great Jones Repertory and La MaMa; the legacy of Ellen Stewart

    14:25 Navigating the theater world socially as a priest; how theater people respond to Fr. George's priesthood

    18:59 Dealing with the pressure to take compromising roles; taking custody of your career as a young actor

    29:44 The advantage of having a personal practice as an actor

    33:34 There's no shame in having a day job; rejecting worldly conceptions of success

    35:51 The fascinating career of dramatist-priest Pedro Calderón de la Barca (1600-1681); his Life Is a Dream

    42:27 Magis Theatre Company: actor training and reviving forgotten classics

    48:02 Adaptation of The Odyssey for high school students

    50:15 Magis's upcoming show, Miracle in Rwanda, based on Left to Tell by Imaculée Ilibagiza

    53:50 This week's reading: Bl. John Henry Newman, The Idea of a University


    Episode 13: Progressives Are Trying to Take Over Medieval Studies--Rachel Fulton Brown Aug 14, 2018
    Show notes

    The critical theorists and social justice warriors are trying to do to medieval studies what they've done to other disciplines, and if you don't get on board, you're a white supremacist. Over the past two years or so, the mob has targeted University of Chicago professor Rachel Fulton Brown, calling her a fascist, trying to intimidate her department into censuring her, and banning her from conference sessions. She joins me to discuss her ordeal, why even tenured professors are willing to stand up for unpopular truths, and the stakes of the battle for medieval studies.

    Links

    Rachel Fulton Brown's academic homepage http://home.uchicago.edu/~rfulton/

    Milo Yiannopoulos's essay "Why the Battle for Medieval Studies Matters to America" (profanity warning) https://www.dangerous.com/45111/middle-rages/

    Rachel's fascinating Professional Self-Portrait http://home.uchicago.edu/~rfulton/Professional%20Self%20Portrait.pdf

    Mary and the Art of Prayer: The Hours of the Virgin in Medieval Christian Life and Thought:

    Purchase https://amzn.to/2MPrGFf

    Read Chapter 2 https://issuu.com/columbiaup/docs/mary_and_the_art_of_prayer_ave_mari

    Timestamps

    2:56 Rachel Fulton Brown

    3:41 The initial blog post that made Rachel's colleagues angry

    10:15 Rachel's friendship with Milo Yiannopoulos

    15:19 The progressive witch hunt within medieval studies

    28:25 The letter 1,500 academics signed attempting to get her department to censure her

    34:40 Rachel's defenders in academia

    36:49 Why even tenured academics fear the mob

    41:23 Critical theorists coming from English literature into medieval studies

    45:27 What will be lost if medieval studies is taken over by progressives: the study of Christianity

    51:02 This week's reading: Bl. John Henry Newman

    This podcast is a production of CatholicCulture.org. If you like the show, please consider supporting us! http://catholicculture.org/donate/audio


    Episode 12: A Career in Poetry & Prose--Mike Aquilina Aug 07, 2018
    Show notes

    Mike Aquilina has been a highly successful freelance writer for over three decades. He is best known for his popular books on the Fathers of the Church, but he is also a poet and has co-written songs with the well-known blues singer Dion. We chat about the process of collaboration (whether as a ghostwriter or a song lyricist), the trajectory of poetry over the past century, and more.

    Links

    Mike Aquilina's website https://fathersofthechurch.com/

    "New York Is My Home" (a song Mike co-wrote performed by Dion and Paul Simon) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpsVSLUOCGA

    A History of the Church in 100 Objects by Mike & Grace Aquilina https://catholicbooksdirect.com/product/a-history-of-the-church-in-100-objects/

    The Fathers of the Church, 3rd Edition by Mike Aquilina https://catholicbooksdirect.com/product/the-fathers-of-the-church-3rd-edition/

    "Hindu Traditions of St. Thomas" at Mike's blog https://fathersofthechurch.com/2007/05/21/hindu-traditions-of-st-thomas/

    "Birdhouse in Your Soul" by They Might Be Giants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhjSzjoU7OQ

    Timestamps

    Mike Aquilina

    2:29 St. Thomas Aquinas's Eucharistic hymns

    5:27 Being a lyricist collaborating with a musician (Dion)

    7:05 The fun of ghostwriting

    9:18 Prose influences

    11:18 Mike's eclectic career path

    13:27 The modern idea of the artist; poetry in the past century

    31:39 Life as a full-time freelance writer

    32:46 Mike's work on patristics

    35:18 Distilling the scholarship of experts for a popular audience

    38:09 More on Mike's collaboration with Dion

    40:24 Having his lyrics sung by Paul Simon

    41:31 Chatting about favorite musicians and lyricists

    50:18 "Thomas Christians" in India and early Korean Catholicism

    53:52 This week's readings: Clement of Alexandria


    Episode 11: Music and Morals--Fr. Basil Cole, O.P. Jul 17, 2018
    Show notes

    Are music and morals connected? If so, what is the nature of that connection? Are certain musical sounds morally bad or good in themselves, or are they neutral? Could the influence of music on morality be of an indirect kind? Is there such a thing as a virtuous way of listening to music? Can music prepare us for the spiritual life? Do you have to be a good person to make beautiful music? I discuss these questions and more with theologian Fr. Basil Cole, O.P., an amateur jazz pianist who wrote his dissertation on the moral effects of music (not to be confused with another Fr. Basil who has also commented on the same subject!).

    Links

    Basil Cole, O.P. bio https://www.dominicanajournal.org/preacher-professor-and-author-extraordinaire/

    Read Fr. Basil's dissertation https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=11968

    Fr. Basil articles at CC https://www.catholicculture.org/search/resultslist.cfm?requesttype=docbrowseauth&resourcetype=1&catlabel=author&catid=85

    Excellent article on the Rosary by Fr. Basil https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=9226

    Jeff Mirus's review of Music and Morals https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otc.cfm?id=510

    Jeff Mirus's review of The Hidden Enemies of the Priesthood https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/articles.cfm?id=253

    Jeff Mirus's review of Christian Totality https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otc.cfm?id=842

    Further recommended reading (not mentioned in episode):

    Elisabeth-Paule Labat, O.S.B., The Song That I Am: On the Mystery of Music https://amzn.to/2LemFYY

    Timestamps

    3:16 Fr. Basil Cole interview

    4:05 Fr. Basil's musical background

    10:01 Refuting the claim that certain musical sounds are intrinsically morally bad or good

    12:20 Common misapplication of Plato's theory of music

    18:28 Does music imitate or express emotions?

    20:05 Why certain personalities might feel threatened by musical creativity; the necessity of risk in art and the spiritual life

    25:31 Why the philosophers have not understood music: it goes beyond reason and concepts

    31:32 How good music teaches us to "rejoice rightly"

    37:34 Music as school of contemplation

    44:34 Beauty and morality: an indirect relationship; can music promote morality through happiness?

    48:31 Temperance in listening to music

    51:17 Is mediocre music morally degrading?

    55:08 Using music to foster false identity and narcissistic sentimentality vs. true self-knowledge through contemplation

    59:16 The vice of curiositas in music: music streaming tempts us to superficial musical gluttony

    1:01:05 Curiositas: Over-analysis and musical snobbery

    1:03:28 What Frank Serpico can teach us about music and integrity

    1:06:38 Do you have to be a good person to make beautiful music?

    1:10:50 What virtues does an artist need?

    1:13:02 How to begin listening to music more deeply

    1:15:47 This week's excerpt: Sirach 32:5


    Episode 10: How to Start an Institutional Apostolate, Part 2—Jeff Mirus Jul 10, 2018
    Show notes

    This episode is for anyone who believes he is called to found a Catholic apostolate, or anyone who is overseeing one already. In this second part of a two-part interview, CatholicCulture.org founder Jeff Mirus shares more lessons from his decades of experience founding several Catholic organizations.

    In the mid-80s he left Christendom College to start a publishing company. Then circumstances forced him to transition away from full-time apostolic work which, though painful at the time, providentially set the stage for him to return on more sustainable terms, leading to the present online apostolate.

    Links

    Part 1 of the Jeff Mirus interview https://www.catholicculture.org/podcast/index.cfm?id=9

    Books mentioned

    Fr. William Most, The Consciousness of Christ

    Read online: https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/most/getwork.cfm?worknum=215

    Buy used: https://amzn.to/2N3Kgsy

    The Fr. William Most Collection https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/most/

    Timothy T. O'Donnell, Heart of the Redeemer https://amzn.to/2zpGrMC

    Warren H. Carroll, The Guillotine and the Cross https://amzn.to/2uiShSL

    Jeffrey Mirus, Reasons for Hope https://amzn.to/2L0oaXs

    Jeffrey Mirus, The Divine Courtship https://amzn.to/2zzsdsL

    Dennis Larkin, A Walk to Rome https://amzn.to/2MXqkri

    Review of St. Katharine Drexel biography https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otc.cfm?id=1266

    Show Notes:

    Jeff Mirus interview

    3:51

    1:20 Summary of Part 1

    3:50 Jeff leaves Christendom College to start a publishing company, Trinity Communications

    5:54 Why Jeff doesn't like looking backwards

    8:49 Getting Trinity off the ground using Christendom's mailing list

    10:45 Jeff's two books, Reasons for Hope and The Divine Courtship

    11:34 Efficiency of running a small company without a board of trustees and political battles

    12:50 Some of the best books Jeff published: Carroll's The Guillotine and the Cross, Fr. Most's The Consciousness of Christ, Larkin's A Walk to Rome, O'Donnell's Heart of the Redeemer

    15:37 Failure of Trinity as a publisher in 1991, Jeff's realization that he could not do apostolic work full-time

    16:34 Jeff learns to program, begins computer consulting and online apostolate, Catholic Resource Network, work for EWTN

    19:35 CatholicCulture.org's predecessor, PetersNet, begins in 1996—funded by computer consulting business

    21:24 Trinity does all the programing for Phil Lawler's Catholic World News, then a separate company

    23:16 Importance of making it so Jeff could be removed by other board members if he ever went against the Church

    24:27 Why God forced Jeff away from full-time apostolic work in order to put him in a position where he could both support his family and serve the Church without overworking himself

    25:33 Programming analogy: Elegant solutions to problems vs. using "brute force"; importance of standing back from problems and learning to delegate and work with a team

    30:12 Differences between PetersNet and CatholicCulture.org

    32:31 Ethos distinguishing CatholicCulture.org from other faithful Catholic websites when it started in 2003

    35:56 Trinity buys Catholic World News in 2006; transition from funding via for-profit company to email-solicited donations just in time for 2008 financial crisis and dissolution of Trinity Consulting

    43:19 CatholicCulture.org's reciprocal model of support; depending on Divine Providence rather than being an institution that exists to perpetuate itself

    48:03 Future of Trinity Communications and CatholicCulture.org: transitioning away from Jeff's leadership

    50:01 Final advice for those doing apostolic work: "Unless the LORD builds the house, he labors in vain who builds it." (Psalm 127)

    51:59 This week's excerpt: St. Katharine Drexel


    Episode 9: How to Start an Institutional Apostolate, Part 1--Jeff Mirus Jul 04, 2018
    Show notes

    This episode is for anyone who believes he is called to found a Catholic apostolate, or anyone who is overseeing one already. You may know Jeff Mirus as the founder of CatholicCulture.org, bu the has launched several other successful Catholic institutions as well.

    In this first part of a two-part interview he discusses how, as a young man witnessing a grave crisis in the Church, he set out to become a Catholic apologist. In the first few years of his career, he founded the interdisciplinary academic journal Faith & Reason and co-founded Christendom College. These experiences taught him valuable lessons about the situational, practical and personal problems of running an institutional Catholic apostolate.

    Links:

    Sigrid Undset, Catherine of Siena https://amzn.to/2uauGE3

    St. Augustine, Confessions https://amzn.to/2u3pIc6

    Faith & Reason Archives https://media.christendom.edu/faith-reason/

    Christendom College https://www.christendom.edu/

    Timestamps:

    Jeff Mirus Interview

    02:46 Jeff's Catholic upbringing, early sense of calling to apologetics

    7:32 College and first experiences engaging with and debating secular culture

    10:38 The crisis in the Church, realization that a prescriptive approach to the faith will eventually fail without prayer and interior life

    14:11 Desire to attain academic credentials in order not to be silenced by the cult of expertise

    17:18 Funny encounters with the 60s revolution at Rutgers

    24:11 Studying history at Princeton; professor who wanted to explain away medieval mysticism

    28:32 Formative reading during grad school: Sigrid Undset's Catherine of Siena, St. Augustine's Confessions, Christopher Dawson, Dominican defenders of the papacy

    31:59 The beginnings of lay apostolates in the late 60s and early 70s as clergy became increasingly unfaithful

    36:58 Jeff founds academic journal Faith & Reason in 1975

    38:57 Situational problem in the Church and practical problem of funding an academic journal

    43:33 The importance of keeping faith with your audience

    46:04 First encounter with Warren H. Carroll, leading to the founding of Christendom College in 1977; the state of Catholic colleges in the U.S. in the mid-70s

    52:33 Practical problem: Making sure the Catholic mission is not compromised based on who exercises control of the corporate entity (in this case, dealing with the problem of an independent college board)

    58:51 Dealing with disagreements between good people with dogmatic personalities

    1:02:22 Early discussions at Christendom about student life and what the campus culture should look like

    1:08:00 Jeff's responsibilities at Christendom 1977-83: member of both boards, Director of Academic Affairs, teaching apologetics, history, and various other subjects at short notice when another professor was missing, editing Faith & Reason, running Christendom Press, building up mailing list

    1:11:23 Financial crisis at Christendom which required Jeff to be a full-time fundraiser for two years and precipitated a personal crisis

    1:13:57 Personal problem: reliance on Holy Spirit rather than seeing oneself as a Catholic "machine" that can be put into higher gear at will

    1:16:20 Beginning family Rosary as a way of putting family first and increasing discernment

    1:22:47 Departure from Christendom College; decision to found a publisher called Trinity Communications

    1:26:34 This week's excerpt: Noam Chomsky


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