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    The Business of Dance

    Welcome to the ‘Business of Dance’ with your host Menina Fortunato. Tune in as we dive into insightful interviews with industry experts, sharing personal journeys and career advice for aspiring pro dancers. This podcast is your key to turning your dance dreams into reality.

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    62 - Frank Gatson: Revolutionizing Pop Culture (Michael Jackson, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Destiny´s Child) Mar 23, 2025
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    Episode Summary:

    Frank Gatson, a legendary choreographer with a career spanning decades. Frank shares his incredible journey in the dance world, beginning with his humble beginnings in Milwaukee, where he first discovered his love for dance. He reminisces about his early experiences, including dancing in "Smooth Criminal" with Michael Jackson, working with Beyoncé throughout her solo career, and choreographing iconic performances for artists like Brandy, Rihanna, and Usher.

    Frank delves into the challenges and triumphs of his career, offering valuable advice for aspiring dancers. He emphasizes the importance of humility, hard work, and perseverance in the industry. He also talks about the necessity of strong technique and how it has shaped his approach to choreography. Frank advocates for the recognition of dancers and choreographers, urging the dance community to demand respect and recognition for their contributions, particularly in award shows.

    This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to understand the journey of a successful choreographer and gain insight into the behind-the-scenes world of iconic performances.

    Show Notes:


    • (0:00) – Introduction to The Business of Dance podcast

    • (1:15) – Menina introduces Frank Gatson Jr. and highlights his incredible career in the dance industry.

    • (3:30) – Frank’s early dance journey and his time with drill teams in high school.

    • (7:00) – The influence of Up with People on Frank's career and choreography style.

    • (10:30) – Frank’s experience working with Michael Jackson on the “Smooth Criminal” video.

    • (14:00) – Behind-the-scenes of creating Beyoncé’s iconic “Single Ladies” choreography.

    • (19:00) – Frank discusses his work on the intergenerational performing arts and athletic center with Brandy.

    • (23:30) – Frank’s advice for aspiring dancers, including staying true to your craft and technique.

    • (28:00) – The importance of dedication, humility, and continuous learning in the dance world.

    • (32:00) – Frank’s thoughts on overcoming obstacles and staying motivated in a competitive industry.

    • (36:00) – How to handle pressure and manage expectations when choreographing large shows.

    • (41:00) – The significance of building relationships in the dance industry.

    • (45:00) – Frank’s final advice on making a lasting impact and maintaining artistic integrity in dance.

    • (49:00) – Menina wraps up the episode, expressing gratitude for Frank’s insights and time.

    Biography:

    Frank Gatson Jr. is an acclaimed director and choreographer whose career was shaped by his early work with Michael Jackson on the Smooth Criminal video. He played a pivotal role in the careers of major artists like Beyoncé, Destiny’s Child, Rihanna, Brandy, En Vogue, and Mary J. Blige, directing and choreographing their music videos, tours, and live performances. His work with Beyoncé remains especially iconic.

    Frank has also directed commercial campaigns for brands such as L’Oreal, Pepsi, Converse, and Reebok, and earned recognition with a 40-minute feature on The Oprah Winfrey Show. Beyond music and commercials, he managed Tyrese, Luke James, and June’s Diary.

    Currently, Frank is focusing on his latest project, the Intergenerational Performing Arts & Athletics Center (IPAAC) at the YWCA Southeast Wisconsin, calling it "the most amazing moment in my life." His influence on pop culture remains profound, making him a respected figure in the entertainment industry.


    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/frankgatson


    61 - Chantal Robson: Madonna, One Direction, N´sync, Usher, Becky G, Madison Beer Mar 16, 2025
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    Episode Summary:

    Chantal Robson, a choreographer, creative director, and producer with an impressive career working with pop icons like NSYNC, Britney Spears, Madonna, and Demi Lovato. Chantal shares her remarkable journey from Australia to the heart of the entertainment industry, offering invaluable insights into her evolution from a professional dancer to a leading figure in creative direction and production.

    Chantal discusses her early days in dance, the pivotal moments that led her to choreograph and direct, and how she seamlessly transitioned into the role of creative producer for massive productions like The Grammys, Billboard Music Awards, and America’s Got Talent. She reveals behind-the-scenes stories, including the challenges and triumphs of producing large-scale events, directing award shows, and her creative process for shaping unforgettable performances.

    Throughout the episode, Chantal emphasizes the importance of staying true to oneself, understanding the business side of dance, and embracing the journey even in the face of rejection. She also provides practical advice for aspiring dancers and creatives on how to approach auditions, build valuable relationships, and gain experience through assisting and learning from industry veterans.

    This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to take their dance career to the next level, whether on stage or behind the scenes. Join us for this inspiring conversation with one of the industry's finest!

    Show Notes:

    • (0:00) – Introduction to The Business of Dance podcast

    • (1:15) – Menina introduces Chantal Robson and her incredible career in the dance industry.

    • (3:30) – Chantal’s early dance experience in Australia and move to the U.S.

    • (6:00) – Chantal’s first break as a backup dancer and her transition to professional dance.

    • (8:45) – Transitioning from dancer to choreographer and creative director.

    • (12:00) – Behind-the-scenes of large-scale events: The Grammys, Billboard Music Awards, America’s Got Talent.

    • (17:00) – Creative process and managing the pressure of producing large shows.

    • (22:00) – Handling rejection and staying true to yourself in the dance world.

    • (26:00) – Gaining experience and building relationships through assisting.

    • (31:00) – The role of social media for dancers in today’s industry.

    • (35:00) – Balancing artistic vision with commercial success in dance productions.

    • (39:00) – Final advice on staying confident and authentic in your dance career.

    • (42:30) – Menina wraps up the episode with gratitude for Chantal’s insights.

    Biography:

    Chantal Robson is a Creative Director, Choreographer, Producer, Educator, performance coach and Visionary who has worked with some of the top global talents including, One Direction, N’sync, Demi Lovato, Becky G, Britney Spears, Usher, Madonna, Gloria Trevi, Victoria Justice, Madison Beer, Leah Kate and more.

    Moving from Australia at a young age, Chantal started as a professional dancer and quickly moved into choreography and associate creative producing many live stage shows and performances. From choreographing 4 years of JUST DANCE VIDEO GAMES for Disney to producing and directing on multiple awards shows (Grammy’s, Billboard’s, VMA’s, Kid’s Choice, etc) and live concerts for Demi Lovato, N’sync, Britney Spears and Gloria Trevi to stage shows for Disney and Franco Dragone productions- INDIA.

    Chantal has also recently worked with Silent House on the amazing “Awakening” at the Wynn Hotel and produced the 2023 F1 Opening. In TV Chantal has been a Choreographer on American Idol, eight seasons as supervising choreographer and associate creative producer on “America's Got Talent” (NBC) and three seasons as creative producer for “World of Dance” (NBC). Chantal continues to work and develop artists, choreograph, produce and direct live stage shows and TV.


    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/chantalrobsoncreative

    https://www.facebook.com/chantal.l.robson

    Website

    https://chantalrobson.my.canva.site/chantal-robson-website


    60 - Chuck Maldonado: Missy Elliott, Pink, Usher, SYTYCD, Dancing With The Stars, X-Factor Mar 09, 2025
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    Episode Summary:

    Chuck Maldonado, a highly sought-after choreographer and creative director. Chuck shares his inspiring journey from a late start in dance at the age of 29 to becoming a key figure in the industry. He reflects on his early experiences with street dance and formal training, which eventually led to his involvement in the Centennial Olympic Games, where he worked with legendary choreographer Kenny Ortega. Chuck also discusses how key relationships, including a connection with Lisa Left Eye Lopez, helped propel his career forward, leading to major choreography opportunities for artists like Missy Elliott and Pink.

    Chuck delves into his transition from dancer to choreographer, citing his work on the film Stomp the Yard as a pivotal moment. He also talks about his latest venture, The Stu, a creative studio in Burbank, where he and his business partner Aliya Janelle offer a safe and supportive space for artists to rehearse, create, and grow. Chuck emphasizes the importance of relationships, mentorship, and trusting the process in building a successful career.

    Show Notes:


    • (0:00) Introduction to Chuck Maldonado, Renowned Choreographer and Creative Director

    • (3:30) Chuck's Early Start in Dance and Overcoming Challenges

    • (8:45) Breaking into the Industry: Chuck’s Big Break at the Centennial Olympic Games

    • (14:20) How Chuck's Relationship with Lisa Left Eye Lopez Led to His First Major Job

    • (19:00) Transitioning to Los Angeles: Chuck’s Experiences with Missy Elliott, Pink, and More

    • (23:15) Chuck’s Favorite Projects: Working with Missy Elliott and Pink

    • (27:00) The Shift from Assistant to Lead Choreographer: The Making of Stomp the Yard

    • (33:45) Launching The Stew: Chuck’s New Creative Studio in Burbank

    • (38:30) The Vision for The Stew: A Safe Space for Artists and Dancers to Create and Connect

    • (42:15) Chuck’s Advice for Aspiring Dancers: Building Confidence and Overcoming Self-Doubt

    • (46:00) Mentee Q&A: Staying Inspired in Choreography, Building Industry Connections

    • (52:00) The Importance of Relationships and Mentorship in Career Growth

    • (56:00) Final Thoughts on Trusting the Process and Staying True to Your Purpose in Dance

    Biography:

    Chuck Maldonado is one of today’s most sought after Choreographers/Creative Directors in the industry. He has made such an impact in TV and films such as; Stomp The Yard 1 and 2, Step Up Revolution, House Party 5, Disney films G-Force, and Underdog. In addition, his talent and creative direction has also been used in shows such as; Dancing With The Stars, So You Think You Can Dance, X-Factor, and America’s Best Dance Crew. Additionally, Chuck has worked on numerous commercials that include; McDonalds, Wendy’s, Best Buy, AT&T, Hanes, Gap, and Target.

    He has also worked with several recording artists such as; Fergie, Chris Brown, Young Thug, P. Diddy, Ne-Yo, Usher, Pink, Khalid, and Missy Elliott. A four time award-winning Choreographer for his work on ‘Stomp the Yard,’ ‘The NAACP Image Awards’, ‘Chris Brown’s Grammy performance’, and Brighthouse’s Network Commercial. Chuck has also devoted much of his time furthering his education. A Graduate of the historical North Carolina A&T State University, Chuck received his Bachelor’s of science in Business Administration. Upon graduating college he received his first choreography job for the opening and closing ceremonies of the Centennial Olympic Games in Atlanta.

    His recent projects include Paramount animated film Max and the Midknights, Bounce TV ‘Mind Your Business, MTV Movie and TV Awards for Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, the Netflix original film ‘Word Party’, Toyota Commercials, Khalid ‘Roxy’ Tour, and “In The Time It Takes To Get There” Movie by Zach Braff. Whether Choreographing, Creative Directing, Producing and now being a Studio owner, Chuck is known worldwide as one of the best in the industry.


    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/chuckmaldonado

    https://www.facebook.com/chuck.maldonado1911

    Website

    https://thestulosangeles.com/


    59 - Industry Dance Awards | Red Carpet Arrivals at Avalon Hollywood with Menina Fortunato Mar 02, 2025
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    Episode Summary:

    Host Menina Fortunato takes listeners on the red carpet at the Industry Dance Awards. Featuring exclusive interviews with top dance industry professionals, award recipients, and performers, the episode highlights inspiring stories, career advice, and upcoming projects from some of the biggest names in dance. From honoring dance veterans to young rising stars, this episode is a must-listen for aspiring dancers and industry insiders.

    Show Notes:


    • 00:00 - Introduction Host: Menina Fortunato

    • 01:30 - Phil Wright (Co-Host)

    Hosting the event with humor and excitement while emphasizing perseverance in dance.

    • 04:20 - Allison Holker

    Presenting the Stephen Boss Legacy of Hope Scholarship and discussing her upcoming memoir.

    • 07:15 - JoJo Siwa

    Choreographing for the IDA Icons and sharing her passion for young dancers.

    • 09:30 - Krista Miller

    Celebrating her daughter’s achievements and advising parents on supporting their child’s dance journey.

    • 11:45 - Autumn Miller (Breakout Artist Award Recipient)

    Grateful for recognition, currently touring, and emphasizing humility and hard work.

    • 14:10 - Tia Stokes (Co-Host)

    Honoring young cancer fighters and promoting her upcoming documentary and benefit concert.

    • 16:25 - Mollee Gray

    Long-time IDA supporters teasing new projects and encouraging young dancers to believe in themselves.

    • 18:50 - Cast of "Dance Life"

    Attending IDA for the first time and sharing career aspirations.

    • 22:00 - The Pittman Sisters

    Winning the Social Star Award and discussing upcoming collaborations.

    • 24:30 - Cost N Mayor (Viral Trendsetters Award)

    Launching a dance card game and advising dancers to leverage digital platforms.

    • 27:15 - Brian Friedman (Educator of the Year Award)

    Reflecting on his mentorship journey and emphasizing education in dance.

    • 30:50 - Sophia Lucia

    Hosting an upcoming dance intensive and advising dancers to build strong legal and support networks.

    • 33:10 - Noah Lands (Industry Dance Awards CEO)

    Raising funds for Dancers Against Cancer and producing a new documentary.

    • 35:30 - Christopher Scott & Lance

    Choreographing major productions like "Wicked" and emphasizing dance community support.

    • 38:00 - Blake McGrath

    Announcing fatherhood and mentoring young dancers.

    • 40:30 - Marcea Lane

    Launching new dancewear and working on a film about her life.

    • 42:50 - Jennifer Jones

    Presenting the Future Visionary Award and discussing her upcoming memoir.

    • 45:20 - Jocelyn Basham

    Highlighting Dancers Against Cancer’s impact and emphasizing kindness in the industry.

    • 47:00 - Kenzie Robertson

    Excited about networking and working on new projects in LA.

    • 49:00 - Braylon Browner

    Performing a self-choreographed solo and striving to choreograph for film and TV.

    • 51:30 - Marcia Lane

    Presenting awards, launching new dancewear, and sharing business insights.

    • 54:00 - Christina Grady

    Supporting honored fighters and preparing for the Tremaine convention season.

    • 56:00 - Jennifer Jones

    Presenting the Future Visionary Award and launching new books.

    • 58:00 - Tessa & Chase

    Nominated for Teacher of the Year and choreographing for Shania Twain at the People’s Choice Country Awards.


    About the Industry Dance Awards:

    The Industry Dance Awards & Cancer Benefit Show is an annual event celebrating excellence in dance while raising funds for the Dancers Against Cancer Foundation to support dancers and their families affected by cancer.


    Connect with the Industry Dance Awards:

    Website

    www.industrydanceawards.com

    Facebook:

    facebook.com/industrydanceawards

    Instagram:

    @industrydanceawards


    58 - MSA Agent: Megan Hunt: Turning Talent into Career Gold Feb 23, 2025
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    Episode Summary:

    Megan, a Senior Talent Agent at McDonald Selznick Associates (MSA), to explore the world of dance representation. Megan shares her unique journey from being a dancer to becoming an agent and provides invaluable insights into what makes a successful client in the dance industry. She discusses the qualities MSA looks for in dancers, such as professionalism, strong communication, and the ability to respond quickly to opportunities.

    Megan highlights the importance of keeping your casting materials up-to-date, including headshots, resumes, and performance clips, and provides advice on how dancers can stand out when submitting to agencies. She also touches on the expanding role of social media and personal branding, explaining that while it's not crucial to be an influencer, having a professional presence is key.

    In addition, Megan talks about the various trends in the dance industry, including the growing embrace of diversity and the rise of specialty skills like roller skating. She concludes by emphasizing the importance of being true to oneself and finding the right team to support individual goals in the dance world. Whether you're aspiring to sign with an agency or grow your career, this episode is packed with valuable tips.

    Show Notes:


    • (0:00) Introduction to Megan, Senior Talent Agent at MSA

    • (3:00) Megan's Journey from Dancer to Talent Agent

    • (7:45) Overview of MSA and its Expansion into Different Departments

    • (12:30) What Makes an Ideal Client for MSA

    • (16:20) The Importance of Communication and Professionalism in Dance Careers

    • (20:45) How Dancers Can Submit to MSA: Materials and Process

    • (24:15) The Role of Social Media and Personal Branding in Dance Careers

    • (28:50) Trends in the Dance Industry: Embracing Diversity and Specialty Skills

    • (35:00) Building Long-Term Careers: Transitioning from Dancing to Choreography and Creative Roles

    • (40:30) The Impact of Special Skills on Dance Careers

    • (44:15) Q&A Session with Mentees: Submitting to Agencies, Getting Noticed by Choreographers

    • (50:00) Final Thoughts on Developing Your Dance Career and Finding the Right Team

    Biography:

    Megan Hunt is a Senior Talent Agent at McDonald Selznick Associates (MSA), bringing a wealth of experience from her work in both Los Angeles and New York’s entertainment industries. With a background that includes a position as Junior Agent in MSA's Education Department, Megan has built a successful career by fostering relationships and connecting talent with opportunity. She also co-hosted The Hollywood Dance Podcast alongside Tony Selznick, a co-founder of MSA and a legendary figure in the Hollywood dance community.

    Known for her ability to navigate complex challenges with creative solutions, Megan excels in management, production, public speaking, and client relations. Her passion for understanding people’s goals and collaborating to create meaningful projects is central to her work. A graduate with honors from Portland State University, she continued her education at The School for Radio & TV Broadcast in Orange County, California.


    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/megnhunt

    https://www.facebook.com/megan.hunt.58

    Website

    https://msaagency.com/


    57 - Rachael Markarian: 2x Superbowl Halftime Shows, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Pink, Beyoncé Feb 16, 2025
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    Episode Summary:

    Rachel Markarian, a versatile entertainment professional with an illustrious career as a dancer, choreographer, actor, and educator. Rachel takes us through her inspiring journey from her early struggles with ballet to becoming a seasoned artist working with industry legends like Rihanna, Katy Perry, Beyoncé, and more.

    Rachel discusses her pivotal moments, from moving to New York at 15 to pursuing her career in Los Angeles, and how she transitioned from dance to acting, embracing new opportunities despite injuries. She also talks about her role as an educator, her work with Energy Dance Project and CLI Conservatory, and the importance of teaching young dancers both technical skills and life lessons.

    She offers invaluable advice on handling rejection, growing confidence, building a personal brand, and balancing multiple career paths. This episode is packed with inspiration and practical insights for dancers looking to thrive in the entertainment world.

    Show Notes:


    • (00:00) - Introduction to the podcast and guest, Rachel Markarian

    • (04:30) - Rachel’s early struggles with ballet and how overcoming physical challenges shaped her career

    • (10:30) - The influence of conventions and how Rachel discovered the larger dance world

    • (16:00) - Moving to New York at 15 and gaining independence to pursue her dreams

    • (20:00) - Transitioning to LA: Rachel’s journey into commercial dance and her first big break

    • (25:00) - Behind the scenes of life on tour

    • (35:00) - Transitioning from dance to acting: How Rachel pivoted after a back injury and during the pandemic

    • (42:00) - Rachel’s work as an educator and mentor to the next generation of dancers

    • (50:00) - The secret to longevity in the dance industry

    • (57:00) - How to maintain confidence through auditions and setbacks

    • (1:05:00) - Building confidence and growing your social media following

    • (1:12:00) - Pursuing multiple career paths

    • (1:20:00) - Q&A: Answering questions from aspiring dancers and sharing advice

    • (1:30:00) - Final words: The importance of following your gut and focusing on your goals

    Biography:

    Rachael Markarian grew up outside of Boston, where she was immersed in a rich tapestry of arts and culture from an early age. New York City soon became a second home, especially after she attended a Performing Arts High School and trained at some of the city’s most prestigious institutions. Her passion for the arts blossomed, leading her to major in Theatre & Dance at Oklahoma City University. Afterward, she moved to Los Angeles, where she booked her first film role in The Haunted Mansion alongside Eddie Murphy.

    Rachael has collaborated with esteemed directors such as Michael Satrazemis, Susanne Bier, Joseph Kosinski, Ryan Murphy, Avi Youabian, Steven Soderbergh, Amy Sherman-Palladino, Christopher Guest, and many more. Her impressive list of credits includes Top Gun: Maverick, Magnum PI, Captain America: Brave New World, Tales of the Walking Dead, Sweet Magnolias, The Morning Show, All American, Queens, Bandit, First Wives Club, Dollface, The First Lady, Legion, Glee, True Blood, and The Ms. Pat Show, as well as commercials for brands like AFLAC Insurance, Microsoft, Target, and H&M. Her love for theater led her to portray the lead role of Kari in The Pavilion, a Pulitzer Prize-nominated play by Craig Wright, at the Malibu Playhouse.

    As a performer, Rachael has danced and toured with top artists, including Rihanna, Katy Perry, Beyoncé, Pink, Justin Timberlake, Kelly Clarkson, Panic! At the Disco, Kanye West, Chayanne, Cher, and The Pussycat Dolls. She has performed in two Super Bowl Halftime Shows with both Katy Perry and Beyoncé and appeared as a guest performer on shows like Dancing with the Stars, The Masked Singer, American Idol, The Grammy Awards, MTV VMAs, American Music Awards, and The Billboard Awards.


    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/rachaelmarkarian

    https://www.facebook.com/rachael.markarian

    Website

    https://www.rachaelmarkarian.net/


    56 - Aliya Janell: Going Viral with ½ Billion Views, Touring with Beyonce, Brand Deals, Recording Debut & Opening the Stu LA Feb 09, 2025
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    Episode Summary:

    Aliya Janell, a dancer, choreographer, and influencer who has made a major impact in the dance world. Known for her viral choreography videos, Aliya has worked with top artists like Beyoncé, Chris Brown, and Nicki Minaj. She takes us through her journey from a young hip hop dancer in L.A. to becoming an online sensation with millions of views on platforms like YouTube.

    Aliya discusses her early days training at Millennium Dance Complex, her transition from dancer to choreographer, and how she overcame imposter syndrome. She also shares the importance of social media consistency, building a brand, and balancing creativity with business. Aliya talks about the highs and challenges of tour life, particularly with Beyoncé, and the importance of diversifying your career. From teaching to opening her own studio, Aliya Janell has truly expanded the definition of what it means to be a successful artist in the modern dance world. She offers valuable advice to aspiring dancers on how to navigate their careers, manage their personal lives, and embrace the journey with authenticity and confidence.

    Show Notes:


    • (0:00) - Introduction to Aliya Janell: Dancer, Choreographer, and Dance Influencer

    • (3:10) - Aliya’s Early Dance Journey: Starting at 5 Years Old

    • (7:30) - Transitioning from Dance Hobby to Career: The Realization of Making Dance a Living

    • (12:50) - Teaching & Choreography: Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and Finding Her Voice

    • (18:30) - Going Viral: Level Up with 40 Million Views

    • (22:00) - The Role of Social Media: From Posting to Collaborating with Celebrities

    • (26:10) - Evolving into a Business: Managing Brand Deals and Developing the Entrepreneurial Side

    • (33:30) - The Importance of Consistency and Strategy in Social Media

    • (36:20) - Aliya’s Beyoncé Audition Experience: From the DM to the Stage

    • (42:00) - The Reality of Tour Life: Balancing Career and Personal Life on the Road

    • (47:30) - The Stew Los Angeles: Opening a Studio and Building a Creative Space

    • (52:40) - Music Artist: Aliya’s New Path in Music and the Importance of Monetizing Content

    • (57:20) - Managing Multiple Business Ventures: Advice for Aspiring Dancers with Diverse Interests

    • (1:03:00) - Aliya’s Advice to Aspiring Dancers: Embracing the Journey, Staying True to Yourself, and Being a Good Person

    • (1:08:30) - Final Words: Trusting Your Own Journey and the Power of a Supportive Team

    • (1:12:00) - Q&A with Business of Dance Mentees: Questions on Balancing Career and Personal Life, Building Confidence, and More

    Biography:

    Aliya Janell is an LA based choreographer, dancer, and content creator. Since the viral success of her dance masterclasses in 2017, Aliya earned herself over 2 million followers on her social media. Making high energy, sexy, athletic choreography her signature she created her own brand Queens N Lettos. Since then, she’s choreographed and danced alongside artists like Beyoncé (Renaissance Tour), Nicki Minaj (Queen Album), Jennifer Lopez (It’s My Party Tour), and many more.

    Understanding the importance of social media Aliya continued to grow her platforms and has landed partnerships with Gatorade, Fitbit, Shoedazzle, Coca Cola, Viacom and many more. As demand for her QNL classes grew around the world she’s found a new purpose to show dancers to “create their own” and be in the forefront of their own careers as Aliya did. Just this year, Aliya made the biggest move yet and opened up her very own dance studio with partner and celebrity choreographer, Chuck Maldonado. Even with all the accomplishments the past 8 years, Aliya is nowhere near done.


    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/thealiyajanell

    https://www.youtube.com/@AliyaJanell

    https://www.tiktok.com/@therealaliyajanell

    Website

    https://thestulosangeles.com/


    55 - Lucille DiCampli: Agent / Owner at LDC Artist Representation in New York Feb 02, 2025
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    Episode Summary:

    Lucille DiCampli, a distinguished talent agent with over three decades of experience in the dance industry. Lucille’s career journey began as a recreational dancer, encouraged by her father to pursue ballet. Her passion led her to Los Angeles, where she transitioned into agenting after realizing her natural ability to advocate for dancers and choreographers. Lucille shares how she helped shape the landscape for dancers’ rights, from working with unions and creating dancer contracts to co-founding the Dancers Alliance.

    Throughout the episode, Lucille provides valuable insights into the changing role of agents and the importance of building relationships within the industry. She reflects on her time with BBA, MSA, and now her own agency, Lucille DiCampli Artist Representation. Lucille discusses the evolution of the industry, from hardcopy photo submissions to virtual auditions, and emphasizes the significance of adapting to new trends while staying true to the essence of the profession.

    She also offers practical advice for aspiring dancers, including how to approach agents, the importance of doing homework, and understanding the different types of dance work available. Lucille highlights the significance of persistence, professionalism, and versatility in a dancer’s career, encouraging young artists to pursue various opportunities and continually hone their craft. Her passion for the business is evident, as she stresses that building long-term careers requires dedication and a collaborative approach between dancers and agents.

    Show Notes:


    • (00:00) - Introduction to the podcast and guest, Lucille DiCampli

    • (02:30) - Lucille’s journey from a recreational dancer to becoming an agent

    • (06:00) - Transitioning into agenting: How Lucille began booking talent and advocating for dancers' rights

    • (10:00) - The founding of Dancers Alliance and working with unions to improve contracts for dancers

    • (14:30) - The evolution of the dance industry: From hardcopy photo submissions to virtual auditions

    • (18:00) - Why relationship-building is key in the dance industry for long-term success

    • (22:00) - What makes a dream client: Lucille’s criteria for dancers and choreographers she represents

    • (27:00) - The importance of versatility: How to approach Broadway, film, and commercial dance opportunities

    • (32:00) - Navigating the challenges of being a dancer and choreographer in a highly competitive industry

    • (37:00) - Lucille’s advice for aspiring dancers: Building a career and doing your homework before signing with an agent

    • (42:00) - Submitting to an agency: Tips on how to approach agents and what to include in your submission

    • (47:00) - Final thoughts: Persistence, professionalism, and the future of the dance industry

    Biography:

    Lucille DiCampli Founder/Director With an agenting career that spans an impressive 3 decades, Lucille is one of the most influential agents in the professional dance world.

    She was originally with BBA on the West Coast and was the founder and director of McDonald Selznick Associates/New York Office for 10 years. Her choreography clients have worked on Broadway, television, film and recording artists tours and have earned countless Emmy and Tony nods.

    Lucille is passionate about and dedicated to focusing her energies on LDC Artist Representation’s super, and carefully curated, talent roster.


    Connect on Social Media:
    https://www.instagram.com/ldcartistrepresentation

    Website

    https://www.ldcartistrep.com


    54 - Jonathan George: Mastering Personal Branding Jan 26, 2025
    Show notes

    Episode Summary:

    Menina Fortunato interviews Jonathan George, CEO of Unleash Your Rockstar, a personal branding expert. Jonathan shares his journey from the music industry to becoming a branding specialist, helping clients gain over 150 million online followers. He emphasizes that talent alone isn’t enough; branding that talent is key to success.

    Jonathan provides valuable advice for dancers on using social media to build a personal brand. He encourages dancers to embrace vulnerability, showcasing both struggles and successes to connect with their audience. He also discusses the importance of authenticity and offers practical tips for creating content that reflects both personal and professional sides.

    The episode also explores the difference between personal and professional branding, with Jonathan stressing that personal branding is about who you are, while professional branding is about what you do. He wraps up with a success story of Harper Grace, who took ownership of her brand and transformed her career.

    This episode is perfect for dancers seeking to stand out and build a meaningful personal brand in the entertainment industry.


    Show Notes:


    • (00:00) - Introduction to the podcast and guest, Jonathan George

    • (02:30) - Jonathan's journey from winning Ed McMahon's Next Big Star to personal branding expert

    • (06:00) - How identity struggles in the music industry shaped Jonathan’s career

    • (11:30) - Why personal branding is crucial for dancers, beyond just talent

    • (15:00) - Mistakes to avoid when establishing your personal brand

    • (21:00) - Content strategy for dancers: showcasing both professional and personal sides

    • (25:00) - Overcoming perfectionism: Embracing vulnerability in your content

    • (30:00) - The power of vulnerability: How sharing struggles can connect with your audience

    • (35:00) - The difference between personal and professional branding

    • (40:00) - Success stories: Harper Grace’s journey from “world’s worst national anthem singer” to a country artist

    • (46:00) - How dancers can reach out to brands and make meaningful connections

    • (50:00) - Final advice for dancers: Step into your greatness and own your narrative

    • (53:00) - How to connect with Jonathan George and learn more about his work

    • (54:30) - Closing remarks and sign-off


    Biography:

    Jonathan George is the CEO of Unleash Your Rockstar® | Personal Brand Agency. His celebrity clients have amassed over 150 million online followers leading him to be dubbed “The Human Hitmaker.” As a specialist in positioning, packaging, and promoting authentic personal brands for success, he collaborates with Fortune 500 companies and travels the world as a sought-after speaker on the subject. Understanding the imperative need for every individual to cultivate and maintain a robust personal brand, particularly in the digital age, he authored the #1 International bestseller, "Unleash Your Rockstar | The Power of You Through Personal Branding."

    In it, he guides you on a transformational journey to recognize your unique value and worth, position it to stand out, and package all that you are to succeed in both your personal and professional life. He believes, “Success is 20% talent. The other 80% is how you brand that talent to shine.”


    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/jonathangeorgee

    https://www.facebook.com/JONATHANdGEORGE

    Webpage

    https://sociatap.com/UnleashYourRockstar/


    53 - Christina Ricucci: 8x National Champion, Disney Star, YAGP Jan 19, 2025
    Show notes

    Episode Summary:

    Christina Ricucci, a dynamic artist who blends singing, songwriting, acting, dancing, and choreography. Christina shares her journey from starting dance at age two to competing and training rigorously, achieving national titles, and landing performances featured in Disney projects. She reflects on how Lyme disease, diagnosed in her teenage years, drastically shifted her career, leading her to explore music and acting. This illness ultimately led to the release of her first self-written single, Ophelia, marking a creative milestone.

    Now teaching dance, choreographing, and producing music, Christina offers valuable advice for aspiring artists, highlighting the importance of adaptability, passion, and creative exploration. This episode is filled with insights for anyone navigating creative careers and personal transformation.


    Show Notes:


    • (00:00) - Introduction to the podcast and guest, Christina Ricucci

    • (02:00) - Christina's early start in dance and first performances

    • (05:00) - Transition from dance to music and songwriting

    • (08:30) - How Lyme disease impacted Christina’s career and forced a pivot

    • (12:00) - Embracing other creative outlets: music, acting, and songwriting

    • (15:30) - The current role of dance in Christina’s life: teaching and choreography

    • (18:00) - Advice for young dancers exploring multiple creative avenues

    • (22:00) - Q&A with Business of Dance mentees

    • (40:00) - Christina recommends summer programs and intensives for dancers

    • (44:00) - Reflecting on competitive dance and ballet training

    • (49:00) - Christina shares memories from Showstoppers and other dance competitions

    • (51:00) - Final thoughts from Christina on following your passion and embracing creativity

    • (53:00) - Closing remarks and sign-off

    Biography:

    Christina Ricucci is an alternative singer-songwriter, actress, and dancer/choreographer based in Los Angeles, CA. She draws inspiration from life experiences, pain, love, happiness, poetry, and, of course, art, in her creative endeavors.

    As a dancer and choreographer, Christina has trained extensively in ballet, contemporary, jazz, lyrical, tap, hip hop, and musical theater. She has furthered her training at intensives with prestigious institutions such as The Juilliard School, Nederlands Dans Theater, Cedar Lake Contemporary Ballet, American Ballet Theater, Hubbard Street Dance, Complexions Contemporary Ballet, Martha Graham, Limon, and Batsheva/Gaga. Christina has choreographed award-winning pieces and has taught dance workshops and choreography across the country.

    Christina is an 8-time National Champion soloist and has toured the U.S. and Canada as a demonstrator with both the JUMP and NUVO Dance Conventions. She was awarded the prestigious National Title of “Best Dancer” from the Dance Awards, the Hope Award from YAGP, and was a Gold Medalist at the World Ballet Competition. She has also appeared on the covers of Dance Spirit magazine as their Cover Model Winner and Inside Dance magazine.

    Christina’s dance career led to her first acting job at age 12, when she was cast as a ballerina in a Disney project. After enduring several years of Lyme Disease treatment, she expanded her creative pursuits to include acting and music. She has won “Best Actress” awards at multiple film festivals.

    In 2019, Christina was the featured vocalist on Nowhere Near, an international award-winning soundtrack. Her music weaves dark pop with contemporary production, and her upcoming project includes the release of her first single, Ophelia, inspired by John Everett Millais’ painting based on Shakespeare’s Ophelia. The debut EP is expected to be released in late 2024.


    Connect on Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/christinaricucci

    https://www.facebook.com/christina.ricucci


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