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    The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics

    Consumers are weird. They don’t do what they say they will do and don’t act how we think they “should.” Enter Melina Palmer, a sales conversion expert with a personal mission to make your business more effective and brain friendly. In this podcast, Melina will take the complex concepts of behavioral economics (the study and science of why people buy – or not) and provide simple, actionable tips you can apply right away in your business. Whether you’re a small business or thriving corporation, Melina’s tips can help your business increase sales and get more customers.

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    76. The Brainy Benefits of Gratitude Nov 29, 2019
    Show notes

    Happy Thanksgiving! This episode is coming out the day after Thanksgiving, also known as Black Friday – a day of crazy deals and holiday shopping (which I have written a few articles about recently on my Inc column) including, Why Black Friday Is the Perfect Holiday Sale According to Neuroscience, Why Year End Is Actually a Bad Time to Send Gifts to Clients, and Why Offering a Deal at the Holidays Isn't Right for Every Business and Should Always Be Done Thoughtfully.

    I've also been thoughtful about a year-end deal from The Brainy Business - and we're having one! In honor of this episode, it will be called the Gratitude Discount (details below). Last year at this time, episode 23 was all about reciprocity and the benefits that come from giving gifts. While today's episode is about gratefulness, there is a reason I brought up last year's reciprocity episode to kick us off today. Gratefulness and reciprocity have an important thing in common…a tie that can bond them together…which is a feeling of happiness and joy.

    Doing things for others, giving things away, can help you to feel happier. And, as you learned in that episode on reciprocity, people want to give something in return; they can feel good from receiving AND from giving. It creates a nice virtuous cycle that I like to extend beyond the holiday season…though this is the perfect time of year to talk about this sort of thing. Reciprocity is the act of helping someone else to be a little happier. Giving away things, even in business, needs to be genuinely about that thing and not what you will get back. This episode explores how our brain filters for gratitude and how those principles can be applied in life and business.

    Show Notes:

    • [02:07] Check out episode 23 on reciprocity (fab favorite!).
    • [03:25] Gratefulness and giving can help us feel happier.
    • [04:17] Giving away things, even in business, needs to be genuinely about that thing and not what you will get back.
    • [05:13] Dan Gilbert shares what really makes us happy in his TED Talk. He found our brains systematically misjudge what will make us happy.
    • [06:29] Studies found that a year after winning the lottery or becoming a paraplegic people had the same happiness levels.
    • [07:11] People don't know what will make them happy. One of the most important things the human brain does is allow us to synthesize the future.
    • [07:55] Natural happiness is a product of getting what you want. Synthetic happiness is what we get when we DON'T get what we wanted.
    • [08:35] Synthetic happiness – not getting what you want but still being happy about where you are – is just as enduring and every bit as real to the brain as if you got exactly what you wanted (or thought you wanted).
    • [08:57] We really and truly do create our own reality, and understanding how your brain looks at these situations can help you to be happier through a filter of gratitude.
    • [10:30] Our brains reinforce our decisions.
    • [11:27] You can be grateful and appreciate things and have them make you happier even if you don't remember going through the process before.
    • [11:55] There is such a thing as too much choice. "Freedom to choose is the opposite of happiness."
    • [14:31] Not getting what you want can make you just as happy – or happier – than if you had gotten what you set out for. Synthesized happiness is the same as natural happiness.
    • [14:59] Lots of choice and opportunity to ruminate are a recipe for unhappiness.
    • [15:16] Gratefulness comes before happiness. Gratitude is tied to happiness and helps people feel more positive emotions.
    • [16:42] The benefits of gratitude filtering can impact all areas of life in a positive way.
    • [17:34] When you are "filtering for gratitude" as I call it, you are resetting the way your subconscious is looking at the world around you – encouraging it to find good things happening so you will have something to write about at the end of the day or week.
    • [18:08] Students who hand wrote a letter of gratitude had a huge boost in their happiness.
    • [19:27] Our brains pay attention to what we write down, and it allows us to slow down and be thoughtful.
    • [20:26] The BE Thoughtful Notebook will be released in early 2020. Get on the list!
    • [21:01] Gratitude can also improve relationships. Sharing the good makes it easier to share the bad.
    • [22:11] Do you want to be happier? Do you want to sleep better and be more creative? Do you want to make those around you happier, and increase performance on the job and off? Do you want better relationships and memory retention?
    • [22:27] Then it's time to filter for gratitude and start writing down what you are grateful for.
    • [22:49] The year end deal! Claim your spot and get discount pricing before it goes up at the end of the year!
    • [26:09] If you get the pricing course and workshop bundle before the end of the year, which is only $699…you get the Brainy Mindset Course FREE! Use code BRAINY100OFF to get it for $599!

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    Links and Resources:

    • Here's Why Black Friday Is the Perfect Sale, According to Neuroscience
    • Holidays Can Be the Worst Time to Send Client Gifts, According to Research. Here's What to Do Instead
    • Does Your Business Need to Offer Holiday Deals? Contrary to Popular Belief, Maybe Not
    • Episode 23. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Reciprocity
    • Daniel Gilbert
    • The Surprising Science of Happiness Dan Gilbert TED2004
    • Stumbling on Happiness
    • Episode 75. The Littery – Interview with CEO Michael Manniche
    • Episode 9. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Loss Aversion
    • What Does It Take To Be Grateful?
    • In Praise of Gratitude
    • 5 Reasons Writing by Hand Is Good for the Brain and for Well-Being
    • 4 Benefits of Writing By Hand for National Handwriting Day
    • Three Ways That Handwriting With A Pen Positively Affects Your Brain
    • 9 Incredible Ways Writing By Hand Benefits Our Bodies And Brains
    • How Arianna Huffington, Tony Robbins and Oprah Winfrey Use Gratitude as a Strategy for Success
    • Successful People Do This at the Beginning of the Day—Do You?
    • BE Thoughtful Notebook
    • Gratitude Discount Claim your spot and get discount pricing before it goes up at the end of the year! Get the pricing course and workshop bundle before the end of the year for $699 and get the Brainy Mindset Course FREE!

    Use code BRAINY100OFF to get an additional $100 off and get it all for $599!


    75. The Littery - Interview with CEO Michael Manniche Nov 22, 2019
    Show notes

    Litter is found just about everywhere you find people. Discarded wrappers and dropped pieces of paper aren't meant to be cluttering up our parks, running trails, and sidewalks. Yet, litter is everywhere. It's a problem that hasn't been solved. Today's guest is someone who looked at this problem and used intuition and research to create a solution.

    I am so excited to have Michael Manniche, CEO and founder of The Littery as my guest. When I learned about The Littery in a post on LinkedIn, I knew instantly it was a perfect example of behavioral economics being used to create a business to help the planet and people from all countries living on it by turning litter…into lottery tickets.

    In today's interview, Michael shares how he first invented the name (it contains the problem and the solution). Michael has always felt that litter is totally unnecessary. He also understood that litter was a behavioral problem. The solution would need to be something strong enough to change that behavior. He then shares his research and how he has built a business model that pays people prize money to stop littering. This is a great example of how behavioral economics can be used in business and in making the world better.

    Show Notes:

    • [03:27] The problem and the solution are in name The Littery. ("litter" + "lottery")
    • [04:07] Michael has always felt that litter is totally unnecessary.
    • [04:52] He wanted to find a motivation strong enough to change the bad behavior of littering.
    • [05:48] Lotteries have been around for over four thousand years and all over the world.
    • [07:44] Michael had a theory that a lottery incentive could stop littering. He did a test in his home country of Sweden and the results were better than he expected.
    • [09:14] It's actually incredibly easy to change behavior with the right driver or motivation.
    • [11:31] To test the concept, Michael went to a movie theater. They had students measure litter on the floor, in bins, and for correct sorting.
    • [14:07] Patrons were offered an opportunity to win €5000 or free movie tickets if they put their trash in the correct place.
    • [15:41] After one month, across four locations, the litter in the bin was now 100% and correctly sorted!
    • [19:35] The success of the test encouraged Michael to leave his job, get investors, and start his company.
    • [20:29] You put an app on your phone. When you open a smart bin and throw something in, you get a digital lottery ticket sent to your phone.
    • [21:38] It's also a goal to sort recyclables correctly. There is a camera in the bin that checks the sorting process. You don't get a ticket if things aren't sorted correctly.
    • [23:33] The AI and image recognition was more difficult than Michael thought it would be. The lighting and things have to be exactly the same as it would look inside of a bin.
    • [30:02] He incorporated in Latvia (and moved to Sweden to support his dream), because he had Latvian investors.
    • [31:02] The next phase will be piloted in the Paris area. In the future they will use the city litter contract money to purchase the bins and pay the lottery prize money.
    • [32:47] The business model depends on procured contracts. Having a new solution is a challenge for procurement. This stage they are also raising funds to help finance the pilot programs.
    • [34:52] Some partners include a large waste management company and Coca-Cola.
    • [35:33] 10% of earnings will go to charity. Winners can also donate to their charity of choice.
    • [41:01] Optimism bias and framing comes into play when you think about how picking up trash can give you a chance to win a lottery.
    • [42:14] Now, when Michael looks at a cigarette butt on the ground, he sees a lottery ticket. Hopefully everyone will have that same opinion soon.
    • [44:31] Humans want to behave as the norm. We are also prone to enjoy competition. Michael has incorporated many of these things into the app.
    • [46:35] If anybody wants to invest reach out to Michael.
    • [49:02] Michael is learning that behavioral science is super intriguing.
    • [50:35] Using incentives to influence the larger group is the plan.
    • [51:41] "When litter hits the bins everybody wins."

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    Links and Resources:

    • The Littery
    • Behavioral Economics Group
    • Episode 16. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Framing
    • Episode 36. Behavioral Economics Foundations: The N in NUDGES – iNcentives
    • Episode 39. Behavioral Economics Foundations: The E in NUDGES – Expect Error
    • Episode 34. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Optimism Bias
    • Episode 23. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Reciprocity
    • Episode 21. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Habits
    • Episode 19. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Herding
    • Episode 8. What is Value?
    • Episode 9. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Loss Aversion

    74. Time Pressure: A Behavioral Economics Foundations Episode Nov 15, 2019
    Show notes

    It's that time of year when everything starts to speed up. We all have so much to do for our businesses and personal lives...how can we get it all done? This is the perfect time to talk about your brain on time pressure as we head into Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals and limited time offers at every turn.

    You may be considering if you should do a year end sale or offer in your business, or maybe you love taking advantage of the deals—or want to know why you can't stop yourself from a deal sometime. Whatever the background, we all can learn about our brains on time pressure. And it isn't just buying decisions that are impacted by this, which I will get into during the episode. You also have other impacts within your work and personal life where your precious commodity of time is limited and impacting your performance.

    Think about it. If you had all the time in the world to make a decision…what would you do? How would you go about it? I discuss time pressure and how it impacts you as a consumer. Then I will discuss some ways to think about using time pressure in your promotions and offerings, and finally, some ways to think about how it impacts your actions in life and business.

    CLICK HERE FOR YOUR FREE DOWNLOAD! Show Notes:
    • [03:46] If you had all the time in the world to make a decision, what would you do?
    • [03:59] You would ideally be able to evaluate every important feature and aspect against each other, and devise a system for ranking values.
    • [04:39] Trying to consider every facet and every decision means you never actually make a decision.
    • [05:01] We need to structure our decisions properly and only consider what matters. The subconscious brain has to make a lot of those decisions because the conscious is too slow.
    • [05:47] The subconscious is heavily influenced by rules and concepts of personal biases and that doesn't always lead to the best results in life and business.
    • [06:03] Limited quantities, opportunities and time are all closely tied to value in the brain.
    • [06:44] When there is plenty of time available, we might be calmer and the conscious has some time to think and process. But time pressure? Move over conscious! You're too slow and I got this down.
    • [07:06] Studies have found people are less creative when they are under time constraints. They also defer making choices at all and if forced to make a choice, it's not the best one.
    • [07:25] Time pressure is a form of stress.
    • [08:24] How time pressure affects you as a consumer. People buy more during the holidays.
    • [09:34] When the brain is overwhelmed, the subconscious takes over and that can negatively impact your decisions.
    • [09:48] Studies show that the things the brain focuses on when making decisions shift and can actually reverse when time pressure is applied.
    • [10:03] When there is plenty of time available, people become risk-averse. When pressure is applied, we become loss averse and FOMO takes over.
    • [10:17] Time pressure can encourage people to buy an extra item or get something "just in case" especially when paired with a discount or benefit of some kind.
    • [10:42] Have a plan and a list if you have regrets about overspending after time discounted shopping.
    • [11:19] Make a list of everyone you want to shop for. List of dollar amount you want to spend on each person. Run this against your total budget for the holiday to make sure you are in alignment and make any necessary edits.
    • [12:12] Having a list makes it easier to hold yourself accountable to a plan.
    • [13:44] It's good to set up rules when you are in a cold state so you are prepared when you get into the hot state.
    • [15:28] Having any check in point and taking a moment to breathe can help you determine if this thing you are interested in is truly a great deal for YOU at this moment.
    • [16:16] Making promos and offers. It's important for most businesses to have promotions and offers at some time or another.
    • [16:28] Some ways you can incorporate time pressure in your offers is to have a discount or sale or gift that is only available until a certain date or time.
    • [17:04] Countdowns are very effective in showcasing a deadline and the time pressure.
    • [18:03] Another way you can look at time pressure is with a limited quantity.
    • [19:03] Look around at what makes YOU want to act. When have you bought something you didn't realize you were ready for?
    • [20:33] It's best to test and find out what works for your business. Time pressure can almost always be effective when used properly.
    • [20:59] Don't feel like you have to do a Black Friday offer just because everyone else does.
    • [21:53] If it doesn't work for your business…don't do it!
    • [22:20] Actions you take in life and business and how they are impacted by time pressure.
    • [22:51] The worst case and best case scenario become the new normal and that impacts your decision.
    • [23:12] When you have lots of time to get something done, you have a status quo of all the important things to look at and do. You make a list and work through it and have risk accounted for.
    • [23:24] When there is time pressure, your brain looks at the biggest extremes – the worst thing that could happen if you don't act and the best thing that could happen if you do.
    • [24:03] Time pressure may get you to finally act and get things done…but are they of high quality and what you would have actually wanted done?
    • [24:23] Studies have found that time pressure causes people to be less creative, less accurate, and for some people can cause them to freeze and revert to making no decision at all.
    • [26:23] Do you have any big things that are constantly moving to tomorrow or next week on the to do list? Constantly putting the important things off is a mindset block we work through in the Brainy Mindset Course.
    • [26:47] You don't need to be under constant pressure to get things done. If you know what your brain is doing, why it is putting those blocks out for you and why they are actually holding you back, you can find time to alleviate that pressure.
    • [27:55] Start by narrowing down your goals. Put in time budgets and deadlines based on what is truly in your day.
    • [29:56] Planning and breaking it down into micro-tasks or mini goals can help you to accomplish the big stuff because it gets you out of time pressure.
    • [30:09] Sometimes, time pressure and deadlines can be helpful, but it is best when you are setting those time limits yourself.
    • [30:26] Thoughtful time blocking and time pressure can help you move forward and make progress.
    • [30:59] Set rules for yourself and remember to say that you DON'T do the thing instead of CAN'T do the thing. Studies have found that the way you frame your self talk is really important.
    • [31:28] Take a step back and take time to evaluate what's really going on.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    Links and Resources:
    • Judgment and Decision Making Under Time Pressure
    • Decision Making Under Time Pressure: A Model for Information Systems Research
    • This Is Your Brain 'On Sale'
    • Decisions under Time Pressure: How Time Constraint Affects Risky Decision Making
    • Searching for a Better Deal: on the Influence of Group Decision Making, Time Pressure and Gender in a Search Experiment
    • The Effects of Time Pressure and Completeness of Information on Decision Making
    • Episode 32. The Overwhelmed Brain and Its Impact on Decision Making
    • Episode 9. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Loss Aversion
    • Episode 16. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Framing
    • Episode 63. How To Set Up Your Own Experiments
    • Holidays Can Be the Worst Time to Send Client Gifts, According to Research. Here's What to Do Instead
    • Episode 70. How to Set, Achieve & Exceed Brainy Goals
    • Master Your Mindset Free Brainy Course
    • Episode 35. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Nudges and Choice Architecture
    • Episode 45. Overview of Personal Biases
    • Episode 14. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Scarcity
    • Episode 8. What is Value?
    • Episode 19. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Herding

    73. Starbucks: A Behavioral Economics Analysis Nov 08, 2019
    Show notes

    Six months ago, I did my behavioral economics analysis of Costco, which has zoomed into the 11th most downloaded episode of this podcast. My analysis of Apple Card is right above it, so we can say they share the 10th spot. Today, I'm doing another behavioral analysis of a business: Starbucks.

    It's not a coincidence that we are getting into Starbucks right around the holiday season. They have definitely done some things very right when it comes to the holidays…and I will touch on the controversy they've seen as well. In the episode we will talk about featured drinks, red cups, nostalgia, pricing strategy, scarcity…and a whole lot more.

    If you've been listening for a while, you know I love Starbucks. Not just for their chai tea lattes and marshmallow dream bars, or because I live in Seattle…but because of the amazing things they have done as a company to shape the world we live in today.

    Starbucks is a dynamic and large company with a plethora of examples I could have chosen to talk about today.

    There isn't time for everything. Instead, I have picked some of my favorite pieces for the episode – ones I think you will find valuable and interesting and be able to apply to your own business (whatever that may be). Whether you work for a global business like Starbucks, are a solopreneur or an academic or somewhere in between…you can learn from the smart things the company has done and how they have understood human behavior.

    In the episode, we will dig into their star rewards program, as well as featured drinks and products – from PSL to the Unicorn Frappuccino, as well as the coveted red cups (which just launched a couple days ago by the time this comes out), the personality and overall brand choices in their logo, locations and on social media and, of course, pricing.

    Show Notes:

    • [04:31] Without the original brand and pricing, Starbucks would be just another coffee shop.
    • [05:04] It really is an amazing feat when you think about the commoditized industry Starbucks was facing before it launched its first store.
    • [06:04] One of the big aspects Starbucks had to overcome was the pricing anchor. The first number you hear (or a standard price) is the anchor, and the brain adjusts from that to determine what is reasonable.
    • [07:02] The way we act is driven by our subconscious, and when you ask a logical question to the conscious, it doesn't answer in a way that reflects true behavior.
    • [07:19] To justify a higher price, Starbucks needed to invent a new category.
    • [07:59] This wasn't just about coffee – it was creating community…a "third place" – an experience that was something more.
    • [08:21] Functional fixedness: when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
    • [08:48] When you look at what everyone else is doing, herding will keep you stuck.
    • [09:01] Howard Schultz and Starbucks took a step back, got out of their own way, and created a new category which changed the conversation about coffee.
    • [09:12] Asking good questions can help you get there.
    • [10:01] Ask questions that aren't about what everyone else is doing. Don't get stuck in the herding or the anchors. Instead, it is about looking to what could be, and asking "How might we?" or "Why?"
    • [10:07] For your business, look at all the things you do because everyone else does. Is that serving you well? What would make your customers excited? Delighted?
    • [10:29] Price is never about price. It's about all the things that come to for the price. Starbucks is a fantastic example of that.
    • [10:56] Studies about wine show that people get more enjoyment from drinking wine that is more expensive.
    • [11:37] When you can break free from the herd and make it about something more, your business can reap benefits beyond what you even imagine.
    • [12:13] Starbucks changed the game with all of their drink options. The first drink they made famous was the Frappuccino.
    • [13:38] The brain gets what it expects. If you expect Frappuccinos to be delicious and you get something similar by a different name, it won't be as good.
    • [14:46] Starbucks started the original pumpkin spice latte or PSL. The limited nature triggers scarcity and loss aversion.
    • [15:53] For scarcity to be a value in your business, you actually have to take something away.
    • [18:43] Starbucks is constantly testing, and they're not afraid to have something popular only available for a limited time.
    • [19:20] The new thing that started this week is the red cups. Keeping traditions alive is something that Starbucks does amazingly well.
    • [20:03] For many, the red cup has become part of a tradition on holidays. When you become a lifestyle brand, you bear the responsibility of becoming a part of peoples' lives.
    • [21:34] Starbucks had a set of filters that every brand aspect had to pass through. These included being handcrafted, artistic, sophisticated, human, and enduring.
    • [23:46] Taking the time to stop and evaluate what is really going on is important.
    • [25:11] When you think about the value of the brand, it's about the overall experience with the brand at its core.
    • [26:33] Your business should learn to watch the trends. What is going on that is cool and interesting and that everyone is talking about, and how would it look if you were to incorporate that into your offering?
    • [28:00] Star rewards are one of the smartest things Starbucks could have done for their business. In many ways, this built upon the wildly popular "treat receipt" where you can get a discount when you buy a second item after 2pm or 3pm.
    • [29:06] The star rewards model is built to create habits for users and increase visits.
    • [34:03] Star rewards are a smart balance of loss aversion, scarcity, relativity, habits, and more. All executed through a series of experiments to see what is bringing the most value to the company and its customers.
    • [34:42] Don't get sucked into your brain's natural tendency to herd. Just because everyone else is doing something one way, doesn't mean it is RIGHT to do so.
    • [34:59] Take a step back and think bigger. Look to the future and the possibilities.
    • [35:11] Scarcity is a powerful tool when used correctly. Especially when paired with loss aversion to help people choose your product.
    • [36:05] Making your brand a habit is about more than caffeine and sugar. Starbucks puts effort into getting more customers to choose them more often for more things.
    • [37:59] Next week, we are digging into the concept of time pressure.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    Links and Resources:

    • Episode 47. A Behavioral Economics Analysis of Costco
    • Episode 42. Apple Card: A Behavioral Economics Analysis
    • A Starbucks Barista Asked Me This 1 Simple Question, and Using It May Be a Great Way to Boost Your Sales
    • Every Starbucks Growth Strategy Is Working
    • 30 Interesting Starbucks Facts and Statistics (2019) | By the Numbers
    • Episode 11. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Anchoring and Adjustment
    • How Starbucks Transformed Coffee From A Commodity Into A $4 Splurge
    • Episode 53. An Overview of Lazy Brain Biases
    • Episode 19. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Herding
    • Episode 4. Questions or Answers
    • Episode 5. The Truth About Pricing
    • Starbucks Didn't Invent the Frappuccino. Here's Who Did.
    • Starbucks Has Made An Insane Amount Of Money From PSL Sales
    • Starbucks Red Cups 2019: When Do Christmas Holiday Drinks Start Going on Sale?
    • A Brief History of Starbucks' Holiday Cup Controversies
    • Episode 43. A Guide for You to Create a Brainy Brand
    • Episode 44. Rebrand, Refresh or Reinforce?
    • Starbucks Will Be Selling Fewer Limited-Time-Only Drinks That Can Be Super Hard To Make
    • Episode 15: Behavioral Economics Foundations: Availability
    • Episode 27. Behavioral Economics Foundations: The Sense of Hearing and Sound
    • Episode 21. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Habits
    • Episode 63. How To Set Up Your Own Experiments
    • Episode 12. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Relativity
    • Episode 23. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Reciprocity
    • SPAM® Pumpkin Spice
    • Master Your Mindset Free Mini Course

    72. Friction - What It Is And How To Reduce It, with Roger Dooley Nov 01, 2019
    Show notes

    Roger Dooley is here to talk about his new book Friction. Roger is the founder of the Neuromarketing Science website, host of the Brainfluence podcast, a Forbes contributor, and the author of Friction, Brainfluence, and The Persuasion Slide. FRICTION―The Untapped Force That Can Be Your Most Powerful Advantage is about making customer's lives easier by removing friction.

    Roger is the perfect guest for me to have on this show because neuromarketing and behavioral economics are similar in many ways, and throughout the book Roger gives examples and shares concepts of behavioral economics: including relativity, nudges, framing and more. It's a great book, and a perfect interview topic for this show.

    If you're a regular listener, you've heard me talk about Richard Thaler (the Nobel Prize winner and co-author of Nudge). Here is his review of Friction. "What do Amazon, Apple Google and Netflix have in common? They made life easier for their consumers by removing what Dooley calls friction. Reading this book will arm any manager with a mental can of WD-40."

    CLICK HERE FOR YOUR FREE DOWNLOAD! Show Notes:
    • [04:08] The book Friction intentionally has a slightly gritty cover to convey a sense of friction.
    • [05:35] Roger began his career as an engineer, but he was always interested in psychology and advertising.
    • [06:03] When he was about 30, he was in charge of strategic planning for a Fortune 1000 company. This is also the time he chose the bailout and become an entrepreneur.
    • [06:14] He co-founded a catalog marketing company at the very early days of home computers. Over the years, his businesses have evolved and become more digital oriented.
    • [06:45] About 15 years ago, Roger noticed neuroscience and marketing beginning to come together. That's when he started his website about neuroscience marketing. He now has over 1100 blog posts on the topic.
    • [07:48] Books, his podcast, and his website give Roger the opportunity to explore how neuroscience and marketing come together.
    • [09:20] There has been a recent increase in business interest in behavioral science. Even Neilson has about 20 neuroscientists on board.
    • [12:50] 95% of the time businesses have too much friction in their processes.
    • [13:08] An example of when adding friction helps is a retirement plan that requires a form instead of a phone call for withdrawals.
    • [13:50] Amazon reduced friction with one-click ordering. They actually patented it. Steve Jobs paid Amazon $1 million to use one-click in iTunes.
    • [16:19] Friction is any unnecessary effort required to complete a task.
    • [22:05] Total cost, time, and effort need to be looked at when creating ways to reduce risk. Many burdens are for stuff that isn't important.
    • [23:20] Where there is high trust, there is low friction.
    • [24:08] Expense reporting can create extra paperwork. Some processes can have unintended consequences and waste time and effort.
    • [27:40] Think how things can be made easier and how many people will be affected.
    • [29:20] A more difficult form can be a screen. This is a time when more friction may be better.
    • [31:15] To increase phone leads, eliminating the web form didn't work, instead the form had to made longer and less friendly to increase phone leads.
    • [32:25] BYAF (but you are free) technique. Letting someone know they are free not to do something relieves the pressure and helps them comply with the request.
    • [34:56] Buffer took all of the friction out of scheduling social sharing. They even used to have curated content.
    • [38:09] Never say "actually" when answering a support question, because it seems to correct the person.
    • [40:36] Loyal customers are more valuable than new customers. What drives loyalty is low effort experiences. High effort experience doesn't inspire loyalty.
    • [44:23] Eliminating processes can also be an option. To board a cruise ship people had to go through a check-in process and fill out a health form. This useless process was eliminated.
    • [48:38] Open your eyes and look for things that take longer than they should. Is there something you can do to reduce the effort your customer has to take to do business with you?

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    Links and Resources:
    • FRICTION―The Untapped Force That Can Be Your Most Powerful Advantage
    • Episode 12. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Relativity
    • Episode 35. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Nudges and Choice Architecture
    • Episode 16. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Framing
    • Episode 32. The Overwhelmed Brain and Its Impact on Decision Making
    • Episode 28. Behavioral Economics Foundations: The Sense of Touch
    • Episode 63. How To Set Up Your Own Experiments
    • Episode 60. Surprise and Delight
    • Roger Dooley
    • Roger Dooley on LinkedIn
    • Roger Dooley on Twitter
    • Neuromarketing
    • Nudge
    • Conversion Sciences
    • Buffer
    • Hootsuite

    71. Prefactual Thinking: How to Turn "What If" Into "Why Not" - Behavioral Economics Foundations Oct 25, 2019
    Show notes

    You may remember episode 68 on counterfactual thinking (why we 'what if' and 'if only'). That episode and the Inc.com article I wrote on how to break the negative cycle of 'what if' thinking were incredibly well received. That episode talked about the different types of counterfactuals – upward or downward, omission or commission, and usual or extreme. Today, I'm going to build on that and talk about the difference between a prefactual and a counterfactual. I'll explain how they can work differently to help you achieve goals (building on last week's episode as well).

    Goals are so important at this time of year. As the year is ending, you're looking back at what you have done, what you could have done, and also looking forward at what you can do in the future. This is all counter and prefactual thinking in action, and as I've already said, they can be a huge aid in reaching goals…or a massive hinderance. Understanding how they work is a big step toward being able to use them to your advantage, and that's really the point of this episode.

    Before we jump in, I want to remind everyone that the cart for the Brainy Mindset Course is now open! Claim your spot by November 1st. The first of our six weekly live training sessions begins on November 5th. There are also lots of worksheets and a dedicated Facebook community where I will also be answering your questions. It's going to be amazing, and we already have some fantastic people signed up and interacting in the group and getting a jump on things.

    Another amazing thing is that it's only $199 for the entire six week course, which will give you all the steps to tackle mindset including live support with me walking through it with you every step of the way. To make things extra sweet for you podcast listeners, there is an extra bonus of 25% off. This brings the total down to only $149 if you use the code BRAINY50OFF at checkout. Sign up now!

    Show Notes:

    • [06:05] Counterfactuals are looking back at something that has already happened, and essentially undoing it in some way in your mind.
    • [06:19] Ruminating isn't the same as a counterfactual. Memory reflection itself isn't enough…you need to change what happened or could have happened in your brain for it to be a counterfactual thought.
    • [06:39] Prefactuals are when you look to the future, and think about what could be. Like counterfactuals, this can either be negative positive.
    • [06:49] If you look to the future in a negative way, it has been called "defensive pessimism" and may involve anticipation of regret and building strategies to avoid that.
    • [07:27] When you think about what could happen or how you might succeed in the future, studies show you can actually have great benefits in all sorts of tasks.
    • [08:25] The brain does get benefit from dwelling and dread.
    • [08:51] Your brain loves dopamine and it drives it to do all sorts of things. Anticipation is at the core of prefactual thinking.
    • [09:48] The treat for the brain is in the pre-buildup or the prefactual.
    • [10:31] I decided to send a Gratitude Discount to people on my mailing list for my Brainy Course, unfortunately there was an email mistake and about a dozen people received %firstname% instead of their name.
    • [13:06] I could dwell on this for hours in the counterfactual/prefactual world.
    • [14:37] Counterfactuals tend to focus on things that we really have no control over.
    • [14:57] Prefactuals are more likely to focus on things in your realm of control.
    • [15:33] Instead of just predicting the possible future outcome, you want to identify a specific circumstance.
    • [16:19] My 10/10/80 A/B test gave me a chance to think a little about what could happen (prefactual) and because I didn't dwell too much on what might have been (counterfactual) I could take steps to actually make it better.
    • [18:46] I also used the power of prefactual thought to prevent this from happening again.
    • [19:41] One key to using counterfactuals and prefactuals for your benefit, is to look for the learning opportunity.
    • [21:30] When something goes wrong the inclination is to make a giant alert on the website, but you can't always do that because it will overwhelm the brain and make it so nothing else is noticed and draw attention to it.
    • [22:15] If something goes wrong, and only affects 2% of the audience, there is no need for a massive alert to everyone. (It can actually make things worse.)
    • [22:55] Knowing the true impact is really important before you send out that apology. Don't let prefactual and counterfactual thoughts blow things way out of proportion.
    • [23:31] First – take a deep breath, pause for a moment to assess the situation. Then ask some questions. How many people were impacted? What really happened? Is it fixed already? If not, when will it be fixed? What can we do now to make it better?
    • [23:47] Then take the actions that you know need to be taken.
    • [24:09] Write out what you could do to make this situation and others like it better in the future.
    • [24:23] Breathe, assess, questions, actions, reflection.
    • [25:22] One study I really liked was looking at how counterfactuals and prefactuals impacted performance in a balancing task compared to a control group.
    • [26:05] Three groups completed balancing tasks, one group used a prefactual prompt, another used a counterfactual prompt and the last was the control group.
    • [26:37] The control group stayed the same. Positive structured prefactual/counterfactual thinking did 5-6 times better.
    • [26:55] Studies have also found that people perform better on a task after doing prefactual thinking even if they have no prior experience.
    • [27:15] Role playing and visualization techniques are so important (and why they play a big piece in mindset work).
    • [27:23] Planning for the future is how you shape it into what you want it to be. Moving out of negative counter and prefactuals into the positive space is such a useful and versatile skill for everyone.
    • [27:53] Use the "Next time I'll" language to program this thinking in your mind.
    • [28:35] You will get there faster and easier if you structure your counterfactuals and prefactuals to the positive.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    Links and Resources:

    • Episode 68. Counterfactual Thinking: Why We 'What If' And 'If Only' (A Behavioral Economics Foundations Episode)
    • How to Break the Negative Cycle of 'What If' Thinking
    • The Brainy Courses Use the code BRAINY50OFF
    • Episode 2. The Top 5 Wording Mistakes Businesses Make
    • Episode 63. How To Set Up Your Own Experiments
    • Improving Physical Task Performance with Counterfactual and Prefactual Thinking
    • When Thinking It Means Doing It: Prefactual Thought In Self-handicapping Behavior
    • Fixing Your Brain: A Guide to Balancing Neurotransmitters

    70. How to Set, Achieve & Exceed Brainy Goals Oct 18, 2019
    Show notes

    How do successful people get things done? A lot of it has to do with setting and achieving goals. A topic that isn't always as easy as it sounds. Today's episode is about setting, reaching and exceeding brainy goals. We all have goals, and are all optimistic that we'll achieve them "someday," but the truth is if you don't set your goals up correctly, there is a good chance life will move too fast, and you won't achieve what you're capable of. (I've linked to episodes on time discounting and optimism bias that help explain why our brains are fine with "someday".)

    Everywhere you look, you'll find advice on goal setting and tips and tools to help you achieve what you want. Success can be as simple as taking (and adhering to) the following three steps to set and achieve your brainy goals. All you have to do is 1) define your goals limiting them to no more than three. Then 2) break those large goals into small steps that will get you there, and 3) say NO to everything else, so you can focus on what really matters. Sounds easy right?

    Not so fast. Our brains are wired to rebel against this simple process. (Especially, step three.) Saying NO is the hardest part, and where most humans get hung up. We want to do a little of this and a little of that…multitask…not limit ourselves. You've likely heard some of these tips before, but I'm adding the extra (and very important) layer of explaining WHY your brain doesn't want to adhere to the plan to help you fight it when it rebels against you. This show will explain the way our brains react to these steps, and if you want someone to walk through the steps with you the Brainy Mindset Course (cart opens next week!) can do that.

    CLICK HERE FOR YOUR FREE DOWNLOAD! Show Notes:
    • [04:23] We all have goals, but if we don't set them up correctly, there's a good chance we won't achieve them.
    • [04:48] The three tips for setting and achieving brainy goals are: 1) define your goals, 2) break it down into smaller steps, and 3) say no to everything else.
    • [05:22] Saying no to everything else is the hardest one for humans to do.
    • [05:37] In a few weeks, I'm going to have author Nir Eyal on the show to talk about his new book Indistractable.
    • [05:51] One of my favorite insights from his book is that you can't call something a distraction unless you know what it is distracting you FROM.
    • [06:07] The opposite of distraction is traction.
    • [07:26] When it comes to goals, you need to limit them. You cannot have 85 goals or even 10 or 5, because you can't achieve them. It's too much for your brain to handle.
    • [08:53] To limit your goals, you first need to list out every goal you would like to accomplish in the next 5, 10, or 50 years. (Use the free worksheet in from the Master Your Mindset mini-course...link below.) These are the things that you want done when they read them at your eulogy.
    • [09:09] List out everything you want to do and then think about how they might combine together and into an overarching goal.
    • [09:40] Now that everything's listed, pick three goals.
    • [10:51] Setting these goals can take some time but don't get caught in perfectionism or analysis paralysis. These are mindset blocks.
    • [11:13] Keeping you stuck is a tactic used by your brain to delay change.
    • [11:42] Your inclination is to have the top three be the most important, but still let goals 4-15 take up mental energy and be out in the world as things you are interested in. But they can't.
    • [12:16] Items 4-15 are a distraction that you should avoid at all costs.
    • [13:02] It's important to declare and OWN those top goals so everyone in your life knows what is most important and is on board.
    • [19:17] Setting three goals and then sticking to them is really hard.
    • [19:50] Once you know what the top three are, the next step is to break each big goal into small steps to get there.
    • [20:54] When it comes to the big overarching goal all of these other things are little steps to get there.
    • [21:55] Break the big lifetime goal into sub goals for the year.
    • [22:25] With tiny habits, you break your big goal into the smallest possible component, something that would be impossible to say no to.
    • [24:06] You can also use habit stacking to accomplish the small steps.
    • [24:46] Now that you have your goals, how tiny can you make the steps to reaching them?
    • [25:06] Every goal is reached in lots of small steps. It's a sum of all the effort to get there, not the end result, and if you don't plan for them, they won't get done and you won't challenge the status quo your brain loves and you won't reach your goals.
    • [26:04] The subconscious brain is the filter that determines what your conscious gets to focus on. You need to be incredibly particular about what it sees all day to help guide the filter.
    • [29:21] Use reminders on your phone – set an alarm that repeats your mantra back to you or that you read. Put sticky notes on your bathroom mirror, or paint a picture that reminds you of the goal. (Master Your Mindset free mini-course has tips and a worksheet to help you with this)
    • [30:11] Determine what three things are important to you and shout them from the rooftops and put every single egg in their baskets. That is how you set, achieve, and exceed brainy goals.
    • Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.
    Links and Resources:
    • Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com
    • Join the October 24 webinar for a discount on the Brainy Mindset Course
    • Episode 29. Resolutions and Keeping Commitments
    • Episode 67. How to Get (and Stay) Motivated
    • Episode 69. Management Mess To Leadership Success, an Interview with Scott Miller, Management Mess to Leadership Success
    • Master Your Mindset Free Mini-Course
    • Brainy Courses
    • Episode 51. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Time Discounting
    • Episode 54. Biases Toward Novelty and Stories
    • Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life
    • 3 Ways You Can Limit Everyday Distractions
    • Friction: Passion Brands in the Age of Disruption

    69. Management Mess To Leadership Success, an Interview with Scott Miller, EVP of Thought Leadership at FranklinCovey Oct 11, 2019
    Show notes

    After a year of doing this podcast, I've noticed trends in the topics I've been requested to do. My Human Behavior Lab interview with Dr. Palma was very popular. People also know that I read and do a lot of research, so I get a lot of requests for book recommendations. Today, I'm incorporating a new segment to the podcast where I interview authors who have written great books about or incorporating concepts from brain science. When I find a fit for the audience, I'll have the author on the show, so that we can really dig into the lessons and how they apply to business.

    Today's episode features a great discussion with Scott Miller, Executive Vice President of Thought Leadership at FranklinCovey, and author of the new book, Management Mess to Leadership Success. Scott is the host of the On Leadership podcast and Great Life, Great Career on iHeartRadio. He is also a fellow columnist on Inc.com. I'm super excited to share our conversation with you.

    Show Notes:

    • [06:22] Scott's book sold 20,000 copies in the first 6 weeks. (Wow!)
    • [07:25] Scott is Executive Vice President of Thought Leadership at FranklinCovey. They are the world's most prominent leadership development firm and have been in business for over 40 years.
    • [07:42] Their influence is built upon a variety of thought leadership books including The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey. They do a lot of consulting around leadership development, productivity, and executing strategy.
    • [08:07] Out of the hundreds and hundreds of business leadership books written every year, Scott never had one that spoke squarely to him, so he wrote his own.
    • [08:30] He wrote a very vulnerable and relatable book that challenges conventional wisdom. He talks about the 30 challenges that every leader faces not only in business but in life.
    • [09:01] His book is raw. He lays out his messes and his successes. It's also short and digestible, which is part of the reason it's done so well in the four months since the launch.
    • [12:13] Scott's philosophy is that we all have messes, but let's not wallow in them or make excuses for them. It's hard to improve if you don't acknowledge your mess.
    • [14:01] The 11th challenge is Check Your Paradigms. One of Dr. Covey's gifts to the world was understanding your paradigms or belief systems. Leaders don't always have the full picture. Their lens is tinted by what they believe to be true.
    • [16:21] Stereotyping and brain bias is an issue for everyone. They serve us in some ways, but we also need to know how they impact us.
    • [17:48] Challenge two is to Think Abundantly. Having an abundance mindset means you believe that there is enough to go around.
    • [22:00] Being loyal to the absent. Defending those who are absent obtains the trust of those who are present.
    • [22:49] Great leaders don't speak about people when they're absent any differently than they would if they are present.
    • [26:18] Challenge 23 and 24 are about setting wildly important goals (WIGs). WIGs are like BHAGs (big hairy audacious goals). Leaders need to be very articulate about elevating some goals over others.
    • [27:36] Properly defining goals is also super important. You can influence lead measures but not lag measures.
    • [28:37] Align your actions with the goals. To accomplish a wildly important goal, you either have to learn something new or do something different.
    • [32:40] Most people confuse opinion and emotions with facts.
    • [34:39] Assume good intent and declare your intent.
    • [36:10] Leadership in organizations has been positioned as it's easier if you just keep doing what you've been doing. Leadership is hard and it's not for everyone. Acknowledging and understanding your messes can make you a genius maker.
    • [37:13] Leadership is a combination of confidence and vulnerability.
    • [40:57] Scott is giving up some things on B level like his radio show to do more things at A level.
    • [41:45] The tips in Scott's book align well with the concepts of this podcast even if the terminology is different - I've linked to some relevant episodes and other items we discussed below.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    Links and Resources:

    • Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com
    • Management Mess to Leadership Success: 30 Challenges to Become the Leader You Would Follow
    • Everyone Deserves a Great Manager: The 6 Critical Practices for Leading a Team
    • On Leadership with Scott Miller
    • Scott Miller on Twitter
    • Scott Miller on LinkedIn
    • The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People
    • Episode 42. Apple Card: A Behavioral Economics Analysis
    • Episode 47. A Behavioral Economics Analysis of Costco
    • Episode 33. Inside the Texas A&M Human Behavior Lab
    • Episode 23. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Reciprocity
    • Episode 45. Overview of Personal Biases
    • Episode 46. Biases Toward Others – Including Groups
    • Episode 14. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Scarcity
    • Episode 68. Counterfactual Thinking: Why We 'What If' And 'If Only' (A Behavioral Economics Foundations Episode)
    • Emotional Agility: Get Unstuck, Embrace Change, and Thrive in Work and Life
    • Susan David Ted Talk The Gift and Power of Emotional Courage
    • Multipliers, Revised and Updated: How the Best Leaders Make Everyone Smarter
    • Master Your Mindset Free Mini-Course
    • Good to Great
    • Built to Last
    • How the Mighty Fall

    68. Counterfactual Thinking: Why We 'What If' And 'If Only' (A Behavioral Economics Foundations Episode) Oct 04, 2019
    Show notes

    I love the concept of counterfactual thinking. In fact, it was one of my favorite things to read about in school – I find it to be fascinating in many ways, but perhaps it's because it relates to something we all do, all the time, and don't really stop to think about why. And more importantly – we don't stop to think about if it is doing us harm or good, and how we might control this natural state of the brain.

    Counterfactual thinking is a fancy way to say "what if.." or "if only..." Maybe you have memories of your childhood or choices you made, and then think that with a little more discipline (or focus or effort or training) you could have been an actor or doctor or run that marathon.

    We all have regrets on actions taken or not taken, and these are represented in our brains via counterfactual thinking. This may seem like a hurdle to overcome, but it is actually central to being a human being – our emotions and the way we think - and can be a VERY good thing (listen to learn the 1 important step to shift from vicious cycle to goal-achieving awesomeness). Studies have found counterfactual thinking happens across all cultures and as early as 2 years old.

    CLICK HERE FOR YOUR FREE DOWNLOAD! Show Notes:
    • [02:42] Counterfactual thinking is a fancy way to say "what if" or "if only."
    • [04:05] Counterfactual thinking can be very useful for setting and accomplishing goals.
    • [04:20] There are different types of counterfactuals, and they do different things. When you are thinking about a better alternative it is called an upward counterfactual, and those with worse alternatives are downward counterfactuals.
    • [04:57] Upward counterfactual are tied very closely with regret. Anticipated regret (or prefactuals) will be the focus of a future episode. Regret and counterfactual thinking really go hand in hand.
    • [05:17] The first theoretical explanation of counterfactual thinking came from Kahneman and Miller back in 1986, and was called norm theory.
    • [05:39] When looking at counterfactuals consider if they are omissions or commissions, ruminations or undoings, usual or extreme, actions of ourselves or others, and if they cause negative impact or how they can be used for good.
    • [06:29] An omission is when you wish you had acted. A commission is wishing you had not taken an action.
    • [07:10] A rumination is where you think about what happened, but you don't have any thoughts about how things might have been different. Undoing is where the counterfactual "if only" or "what if" comes into play – what might have been if you had or hadn't done something.
    • [08:40] Usual or extreme: the way you do your counterfactual thinking will be different if it was coming in through the same door as you always do versus coming in a way you never do.
    • [11:24] Ourselves or others. Whose actions the counterfactuals are targeted at. We tend to focus our counterfactual thoughts on ourselves – what we coulda shoulda woulda done – more often than we look at others.
    • [12:24] Distress and anxiety. While there is a healthy side to counterfactuals, when used in excess it can be really damaging to the psyche.
    • [14:25] Thinking and counterfactualizing doesn't change what happened.
    • [16:02] Putting too much into 'what if' and counterfactual thinking can often make a mountain out of a molehill. It can be unhealthy and cause you more harm than simply letting it go and moving on would do.
    • [16:12] Your conscious brain can only focus on so much and the brain gets what it expects.
    • [18:16] A study was published in 1995 in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin on counterfactual thinking and undoing traumatic life events.
    • [20:58] A study found that 80% of those that lost loved ones in a car accident had ruminative thoughts of the event, and 59% said they had thought about the events leading up to the accident within the past month.
    • [21:49] Over half of the respondents were actively undoing the event in their heads – having counterfactual thoughts – within the last month, for an event from 4-7 years earlier.
    • [22:20] 69% focused on a usual activity. 28% focused on an exceptional activity.
    • [23:34] 41% of those undoing reported wishing that they had done something. 31% reported wishing that they had not acted as they did. 17% reported both.
    • [24:24] 55% focused on their own behavior, while the other 45% were focused on the behavior of the deceased. Not one person reported trying to undo the other driver's behavior (even though in most cases that person was legally responsible for the accident).
    • [26:29] The person thinking about the process is more likely to undo the actions of the focal actor – themselves or the person they knew.
    • [27:26] If you go through counterfactual "if only" and "what if" sort of thinking…remember that just because your brain is only focusing on you…it doesn't mean it is right or the only option.
    • [28:39] Undoing may, at least partially, be a distress-driven cognitive process.
    • [31:09] The more you continue to focus on undoing, the more you will have continued distress.
    • [32:28] Highly distressed people come to undo more frequently, thus perpetuating their distress.
    • [33:06] The only item that led to increased levels of distress was the frequency that someone was going through the process of undoing.
    • [33:55] Your mood and focus is created by your own brain. And while it is perfectly normal to partake in counterfactual thinking, too much can be harmful.
    • [34:30] Counterfactual thinking is a critical way we regulate our behavior and how we are able to reach our goals.
    • [34:50] When you fail to reach a goal, you are more likely to have counterfactual thoughts.
    • [35:23] Instead of having counterfactual thoughts, decide what you could do better next time.
    • [37:47] You need to allow yourself to move on and not let it take over everything else in your life and work.
    • [38:57] Next time you get into a counterfactual spin…think about how someone else might think you're the luckiest guy or gal in the world!
    • [40:17] Whether you are naturally a silver lining person or not…acting as if you were is often enough to trick your brain into starting to think that way.

    DON'T FORGET to sign up for the Free Master Your Mindset Mini Course now to tackle mindset issues and be on the waiting list for the full course, on sale October 24!

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    Links and Resources:
    • The Functional Theory of Counterfactual Thinking
    • Norm Theory: Comparing Reality to Its Alternatives
    • The Undoing of Traumatic Life Events
    • Episode 62. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Game Theory
    • Fierce Conversations: Achieving Success at Work and in Life One Conversation at a Time
    • Episode 4. Questions or Answers
    • Episode 12. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Relativity
    • Free Master Your Mindset Mini Course

    67. How to Get (and Stay) Motivated Sep 27, 2019
    Show notes

    Motivation is definitely a key piece of the mindset puzzle, so it's no wonder its been taking up brain space for me recently. My Instagram followers already know I've been working on getting back into running. In this episode, I get vulnerable and share with you my very personal relationship with running. It revolves around a limiting belief that was created in my mind, as well as mindset and motivation issues.

    I also talk about the two types of motivation. Motivation can either be intrinsic or extrinsic. Essentially, that means it either comes from your own self (intrinsic) or from an outside source (extrinsic). I also talk about apps and other things that can help you with motivation (or you can use to motivate employees or customers in your business). In fact, this is where today's topic came from. While on a run I was thinking about the apps I use and how their pricing could be better aligned with motivation and the way the brain actually works. Hopefully, you'll walk away with motivation inspiration and pricing insights for your business.

    CLICK HERE FOR YOUR FREE DOWNLOAD! Show Notes:
    • [04:03] Motivation is definitely a key piece of the mindset puzzle.
    • [05:01] I'm going to get vulnerable and share a story about my relationship with running.
    • [06:14] Unfortunately, words from a misguided ballet teacher helped cement a limiting belief in my mind that I couldn't run.
    • [08:27] I wanted to run again and tried, but I still had mindset blocks. In 2013, an executive coach helped me to break through my mindset blocks.
    • [10:36] I had overcome my running mental demons, but was then hit by two cars on the freeway. This led to new mindset and motivation struggles.
    • [12:09] In August, I decided to apply all of my mindset learning and make a change. I started Couch to 5k all over again from the beginning.
    • [13:30] Running gives me clarity. The spark for this episode came from my thoughts around the running apps that I used and how their pricing could be better aligned with motivation and the way the brain actually works.
    • [13:59] Motivation can either be intrinsic or extrinsic. Essentially, that means it either comes from your own self (intrinsic) or from an outside source (extrinsic).
    • [15:12] Thinking about something from a fresh, new angle will allow you to shake off the cobwebs and old rules to refresh your motivation.
    • [16:16] A lot of people get hung up on is sales calls or some other version of drumming up new business.
    • [16:28] the act of making the call is scary – that's fear talking. You are intrinsically dwelling and keeping the whole conversation inside your own head.
    • [17:02] You could make a commitment to a friend that you will both make a certain number of sales calls by the end of the week.
    • [18:10] Loss aversion and other brain motivators can help you get over the mindset block and into motivation territory.
    • [18:29] When you are feeling a lack of motivation or want to motivate yourself, think about the mindset block that is keeping you stuck.
    • [19:25] Understanding your priorities so you can say no to things that are outside the goals is key to getting (and staying) motivated.
    • [20:37] Couch to 5k is a free app, but you have to pay to upgrade to get some bonus features.
    • [22:19] One thing I think this app really lacks is it stops tracking when their prescribed course is done.
    • [22:42] They are conditioning me to not want to put in any extra effort or push myself beyond their 30 minutes because there is no benefit to doing so.
    • [25:04] Also, I am pushed outside the app to get my pace, which decreases the value of the sell and makes me less likely to pay.
    • [26:56] If ZenLabs and Couch to 5k was my client, I would recommend that the monthly payment include access to all the apps and benefits.
    • [27:34] If it does not include all the apps, I recommend the extrinsic motivation / loss aversion model.
    • [29:30] If you don't plan (which conditions for the importance of mental preparation around fitness) you pay if you miss. Lazy Jar does exactly this.
    • [30:10] This is like stickK which I believe was the first app to use brain science for motivation in this way. This app was created by behavioral economists and has helped people reach all sorts of goals.
    • [31:18] Runkeeper allows you to store your running data. You get tons of free stats. You also get badges, and it does gps tracking.
    • [33:31] I can pay up to track how similar runs get better or worse.
    • [34:32] Little pulls from an account on a regular basis could be a motivational tactic as well.
    • [34:53] Runkeeper is definitely catered to the one time annual payment (which I believe is opposite of Couch to 5k).
    • [35:33] Isn't it funny how the big price disparity makes one thing look like a better value? How one small shift makes it look completely different?
    • [36:10] If you have a business with subscription models that depend on regular usage and enjoyment…the goal is really to keep motivation up.
    • [37:55] My 3 tips: 1) Limit your goals. Having too many goals is a recipe for motivation failure. Get your total goals down to 3 max.
    • [38:18] 2) Flip the script (reframe). Look at the mind block and ask if its intrinsic or extrinsic and then switch to the other.
    • [39:11] 3) Look at the small steps. Start by thinking big and then putting together small action steps to get there.
    • [40:00] If social media is a priority, you can break it up into small steps. Once something becomes a habit, you can incorporate more things.
    • [40:55] Keeping motivated doesn't have to be as elusive as it might seem. It's all about understanding the brain and how to work with its rules around mindset to achieve your big dreams.
    • [42:11] Sign up for the free Master Your Mindset mini-course to get a jump on conquering your mindset AND get on the waiting list for the full mindset course.

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    Links and Resources:
    • Your Sales Maven
    • Episode 66. Ultimate Pricing Confidence with Special Guest Interviewer Nikki Rausch
    • Master Your Mindset - Free
    • Jenn Bays on Instagram
    • The Brainy Business on Instagram
    • Couch to 5k
    • Episode 21. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Habits
    • Episode 22. The Power of Habit
    • Peter Myers on Twitter
    • Runkeeper
    • Episode 9. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Loss Aversion
    • Episode 29. Resolutions and Keeping Commitments
    • The Brainy Business on Facebook
    • The Brainy Business on Twitter
    • Episode 65. Can Behavioral Economics Increase Savings?
    • Episode 16. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Framing
    • Episode 51. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Time Discounting
    • Episode 34. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Optimism Bias
    • Lazy Jar
    • stickK
    • Episode 8. What is Value?
    • Episode 12. Behavioral Economics Foundations: Relativity
    • The Brainy Business Courses

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