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    The Blogger Genius Podcast

    I’m Jillian Leslie, host of Blogger Genius and founder of MiloTree (https://milotree.com/) —the simple, all-in-one platform that helps bloggers and creators SELL digital products, GROW their email lists, and BUILD their social media followings. I’m also an online business strategist and Stanford MBA.

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    #003 How to Find New Revenue Opportunities With Amy Locurto Feb 07, 2018
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    Amy Locurto has been successfully blogging for almost ten years, and has seen so many trends come and go. In this episode, we discuss how to experiment and find new revenue opportunities as a blogger (selling products, affiliate sales, brand partnerships, membership sites), so you can stay in it for the long haul. Transcript - How To Focus On Your Strengths As a Blogger: Resources: Living Locurto Living Locurto Fun Club MiloTree Intro: [00:00:11] Welcome to the Blogger Genius Podcast brought to you by MiloTree. Here is your host, Jillian Leslie. Jillian: [00:00:11] Today my guest is Amy Locurto from Living Locurto. She is a blogger, a graphic designer, and an entrepreneur. Welcome to the show, Amy. Amy: [00:00:22] Hi, Jillian. I'm so happy to be here. Jillian: [00:00:25] So Amy and I, gosh, we've known each other for a lot of years. Andwe are friend in real life, and what I love about you is how you put it out there... about your business and about everything. Amy: [00:00:43] Yes, I'm an open book. Jillian: [00:00:47] So let's talk about Living Locurto. I know you have been at it for a long time. So how did you start it? And briefly how has it evolved over time? Amy: [00:00:59] Oh, OK well, first of all, let me give an overview of what Living Locurto is about, for those of you that have never visited my blog. It's a DIY lifestyle, party and food blog, that features fun recipes, crafts, home decor, and travel. I love to travel, so I mix that in with my fun creative ideas. So it's very whimsical, it's bright. And, you know, we have a lot of bad things going on in life, and I want my blog to just be a place where you can go and find fun and cute things, and get away from it all. So that's kind of how I started it. I started in 2008, so I wanted this to be a fun place to go. I've stuck with that this whole time. Jillian: [00:01:43] I will say, that Amy makes some of the most creative food crafts out there. Amy: [00:01:52] Oh, thank you. Yeah, I started blogging in 2008, and that's when D.I.Y. there was basically just DIY, and parenting blogs, and there weren't a lot of food or party decor blogs at the time. And back then D.I.Y. meant home decorating. I love to decorate but that wasn't my passion. So I'm like, how am I going to do this? How to keep up with these bloggers. I don't even like to shop, you know. But I would always make things, so because I work with really corporate clients all day long, in my graphic design firm, I use my blog as a creative outlet, to share fun and creative things that I was doing at home with my kids, and back then, I was designing things for them, such as birthday party invitations and decor and homemade gifts for teachers. Lunch bag tags, chore charts, and things like that. So I started sharing those printables on my blog and that's when everything really started to take off. Jillian: [00:02:56] And you were one of the first bloggers to really promote printables. Downloadable files that people can print out themselves. And anybody can DIY with printable. Creating a printables business Amy: [00:03:10] Yeah, we used to call them downloads back then. And at the time, there were four to five other professional graphic designers doing this, and we all knew each other we had our own little tribe. It was really fun to have a group of friends all over the world who could understand my passion for doing these over-the-top birthday parties and creative designs. My real friends in real life thought I was crazy. Amy: [00:03:40] And you know it was funny because the five girls that were really... I remember, there was one girl and she had freedownloads.com and or something like that. She was like... I just wanted to be like her. I don't know what happened to her. But there are so many of us that went on to do other things and there's a few of us still left that do do this blog thing. Amy: [00:04:02] Now how did you start monetizing your blog? Did you open an Etsy shop or how did you start thinking about money? Amy: [00:04:11] I started my own shop. I thought what is this? Etsy. I'm not going to give them a percentage of my profits. Amy: [00:04:18] I found a way to charge for my downloads on my own blog. And so I thought I'll test this out. If they love it so much and they're sharing it all, they'd probably be willing to pay for it, right. So I had a really popular free download that I turned into a $0.99 download and you would have thought I was like a horrible horrible person in the world, trying to sell a digital product. Amy: [00:04:48] People just thought well why? Why would you do tha? And I thought well why not? I spent a lot of time designing this and you like it. So you buy it. And people did. And then I opened a store from that. I just started a whole new website called Printables by Amy. And so I kind of jumped on that wagon. You know, I think about six months into my blog, I focus mainly on my shop and collecting emails and things like that. So I could sell my products. And I'm glad I did, because now I still have that shop. It still brings traffic to my Web site. It's in Google. And if I had started on Etsy I don't think it would have been as lucrative. Jillian: [00:05:36] And are you still getting sales? Amy: [00:05:39] Yes. Still to this day. It was all evergreen product birthday parties, it's still there and I used those for a lot of other things. I still use those designs and they're super cute. It's party packs and little downloads and decorations for birthday parties. Jillian: [00:06:04] I love the you saw this opportunity and you jumped on it and then you said, I'm going to start monetizing Why not? And you did and that it is still bringing you revenue. Amy: [00:06:15] Yes it does. It's pays the bills. That was just a chance that I took because I thought why not? It doesn't really cost anything to do this, so if I'm going to make some money, I'll make some money. And so that's how I made money back then, because the ad revenue was pretty much nonexistent back right. Because people didn't understand what a blog was, so nobody was advertising on our Web site. So we had to contact businesses and talked them into putting an ad in our sidebar. Jillian: [00:06:48] I remember that. So, today how do you monetize? You've got your printable business, you've got your graphic design firm, but let's kind of put that aside. How do you make money doing Living Locurto and all of your online ventures? Amy: [00:07:11] My main source of income on living Locurto comes from my ad revenue and my client work. Working with brands Amy: [00:07:16] So yeah I work with several brands and I create unique content for them, or I work with them to promote a specific product on my own blog and my social channels. Jillian: [00:07:28] So this is like sponsored content? Amy: [00:07:30] Yes. Yes. Jillian: [00:07:32] Did they contact you? Did they contact you directly? Amy: [00:07:37] Yes. I've been very lucky with that. I have an "about" page on my website that says "work with Amy" and it gives a whole rundown, kind of like my press kit or media kit, right online so they can see how they can work with me, what I'm doing now, what I'm looking for. Amy: [00:07:56] And are we a good fit? Contact me. And people find me through that. Jillian: [00:08:02] That's great. Amy: [00:08:02] I have reached out to a few brands that I've met at conferences and things like that, just to tell them a little more about me. But it's not like I said, I've got this idea... It was just more of an introduction. So I've been really lucky in that way. I don't I don't do a lot of pitches. I try to make everything very very open and honest on my website so they know that I do want to work with brands. Jillian: [00:08:32] And what would you say is the ideal brand that would work with Amy Locurt? Jillian: [00:08:38] Mmm well, I do a lot of work with movies. promoting movies and that is super fun because they're usually fun movies. Amy: [00:08:46] Like I just did a promotion for the Lego Ninjago movie. And I do a lot of work for food companies. I've worked with Coca-Cola. I've worked with so many brands. so yeah, anybody that wants to do something fun and creative, mainly food companies. I think that works really well with me, or entertainment like the movies or something for kids. That's kind of my audience. Jillian: [00:09:17] Got it. So now let's talk about social media, and you make some awesome videos. Tell me about it and you are also a YouTuber. Amy: [00:09:30] Kind of. Jillian: [00:09:31] So can you talk about your social media strategy and how it's evolved, and how video today fits into that? Amy: [00:09:41] OK. I'm glad you asked this because I had to really think about this when you sent me the questions. I'm like when did I get on YouTube? I and I had a look back. Getting started in YouTube Amy: [00:09:50] I got on YouTube over eight years ago, because I needed a place to upload a video for some Photoshop tutorials that I was doing because, mind you, I've been a professional graphic designer for many years and I started in the business thing when I was in college was right. That was back when Photoshop just came out. So I had to teach my professors how to use Photoshop. So I've always been the Photoshop guru, so I started doing tutorials for another blog I had years ago. Amy: [00:10:21] It was a photography blog, and I just needed a place to upload as well. I forgot about it because I embedded the video in my blog and then I went back, I think like a year later, and I saw that those videos weren't getting mega views from people on YouTube. I'm like oh my gosh, I didn't even think that people would find me on YouTube by just searching Photoshop tutorial or something. And that's when I was like oh gosh, this is where the direction of the Internet is going. And yeah, I got to do the things I'm doing on video, so that's when I really dove in, and you know, I got got a camera that would be better for video and jumped in had first to learn everything I could about video. I think I really started trying to grown my YouTube channel Living Locurto about four or five years ago. Amy: [00:11:19] And do you monetize on YouTube? Amy: [00:11:23] Well I mean I have ads over there, but the way to monetize there is I think, work with brands. And so that's what I've done in the past. Jillian: [00:11:36] So a brand will come to you and say, Will you make a video? Amy: [00:11:40] Yeah, well I think for YouTube, I mean that's a whole nother ball of wax. But you have to have a company that represents you over there. And so for me, I'm in a company I'm with a company called Kin Community. So they reach out to brands and if a brand wants to work with me, they'll contact me through Kin Community. That's how that works. Facebook strategies with affiliate links Jillian: [00:12:09] Can you share then how you think about video? Tell me about Facebook for you. And how how important Facebook is and how you have evolved in your strategy with Facebook. Amy: [00:12:24] Well I evolved with Facebook because I was over on YouTube and I saw the difference between the video views on Facebook versus YouTube and it was just astronomical. Like I don't get millions of views on a video over on Facebook, versus ten thousand on YouTube, which for me 10,000 you know is a lot at the time. But there's just my people on Facebook, and YouTube is a much younger audience, so I just thought I need to be where my people are. So I've started focusing more on Facebook. So it's very important just because that is where my audience is. Amy: [00:13:05] So yeah it's very important, whether you get traffic there or not, that's how you can promote anything to anyone. But it's really confusing and then you figure out something, and then they change it. That's the beast of blogging is Facebook. Jililan: [00:13:31] How often then are you posting? Is it video? Is it posts? What are you doing on Facebook? Amy: [00:13:38] On my Facebook page I try to post at least once an hour and sometimes even more than that. But there were days I slack off. You know, you can't do it all. And there's some days I'm gung ho about it. And I think my page would grow a lot more if I actually focused just on it. But I do too many things, and that's what we we do as bloggers, so there's a lot of people that have grown their Facebook pages because they focus solely on that. Jillian: [00:14:10] Does Facebook drive a lot of traffic to your blog? Amy: [00:14:15] It does. It does. It drives a lot, but it's not one of my top traffic drivers, but I'm not saying it doesn't drive any traffic, because when I look at it, I just see it in comparison to maybe Pinterest. So Pinterest is a whole lot more. But you know I looked today, and I thought, wow that is a lot of traffic from Facebook. Like I should look at that as a win. It's not a loss, and just because it's not the highest traffic coming over, it's great traffic, and you can also promote product there and I can also promote products and use affiliate links. That's a great way to make money. Jillian: [00:14:58] So let's just unpack that a little bit. Go through how you put an affiliate link on Facebook. Amy: [00:15:11] Well you can use any kind of company. There's all kinds of affiliate companies but let's take Amazon, for example. If you saw a product that you were talking about, that you liked, you can share a photo of it and say hey, you guys, tried this, like an instant pot or something. So just put your affiliate link in there, but you have to disclose that it's an affiliate link so you can say you know underneath underneath the description somewhere an affiliate link or or something just to disclose, and then if they click the link you know a cookie gets put on their computer. They might buy it, but they might come back that night buy something else, like cat food and then you'll get a percentage. Amy: [00:15:55] Then you can also put a shop on your Facebook page. They've got a section if you've got a business page which most bloggers do. There's a shop area there, so you can go in and you can add a photo and put your affiliate link in there. And you can have a whole shop of affiliates stuff. There's a lot of different ways to use it. I have one Facebook page where I don't even have a blog I just share affiliate links over there. It's just a little community it's a small Facebook page, but it's really active page. I don't even have a blog for that yet. You know, it just kind of took off. Amy: [00:16:42] But for now, I'm just putting in affiliate links. So am I making money. Jillian: [00:16:46] That's amazing. I will say you are. You are the queen of finding ways to monetize. Amy: [00:16:52] Well it's by accident too, like I think that as a blogger or an entrepreneur you have to find creative ways. You can't put all your eggs in one basket. You need to find creative ways to do things, so when I saw people years ago sharing my printables like bananas, I thought sheesh, there's only about four or five of us doing this. And so I rang them up, and I said well let's charge, let's start charging. And so we all did. And so we kind of started something new, and then eventually everybody started doing free printables. And so then you have to rebrand somehow and find another way to monetize. So there's always something creative, but I think that I like to give myself a time limit. Like I say I…

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    #002: How To Build a Multi-Brand Business With Dayna Abraham Jan 01, 2018
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    Dayna has a successful blog, an online store, and is an author of multiple books. She started each one separately, and only later figured out how they all fit together. In this episode we discuss how to build a multi-brand business and find the throughline.


    #001: Kyndra Holley - How She built a Business Out of a Struggle with her Weight Dec 19, 2017
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    My guest is Kyndra Holley of Peace, Love, and Low Carb. Kyndra has struggled with her weight her whole life, and by documenting her journey into low carb eating, she has created both a successful food blog and business. In this episode we discuss the steps she took to grow her business, how her path wasn't always straight, but lead her to where she is today. This post is brought to you by MiloTree, the smart popup you embed on your blog or site to grow your social media following on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and Pinterest, plus your email list. Try it today and get your first 30 days free! Transcript - How To Turn Your Personal Struggle Into a Successful Business: Resources: Peace, Love and Low Carb Peace, Love and Low Carb cookbooks MiloTree Lulu AdThrive Jillian: [00:00:11] Hey! Today my guest is Kyndra Holley from Peace, Love and Low Carb. As a low carb eater myself, I have to say I was immediately drawn to her content, and I'm so happy she's here today to be on the show. So welcome. Kyndra: [00:00:32] Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Jillian: [00:00:35] I want to start by asking you how you started, and really what inspired you. What's the story? Because I know there is a story behind Peace, Love, and Low Carb? How a personal struggle became a business Kyndra: [00:00:49] I usually start by saying it kind of happened by accident, which sounds strange but I didn't say I'm going to build a business, a brand, and start a blog, and write books. Kyndra: [00:00:58] I just was a girl who really struggled with her weight her whole life. And I stumbled upon low-carb through a friend that I worked with. She was like, "Hey I heard about Atkins. Let's do it." And so I was like, "OK, I'm in. She started her blog by photographing what she was eating Kyndra: [00:01:13] And from there I just kind of started photographing everything that I was eating and I made it my mission to recreate all of my favorite comfort foods as low carb versions instead of giving them up. Kyndra: [00:01:25] And I just started taking pictures of them with my phone. Facebook was getting really huge and I started a Facebook page. And meanwhile, I was blogging but I had it set to private setting like a diary, so I hadn't even unlocked that people. I was kind of documenting my weight loss journey on my blog. Jillian: [00:01:46] What year was this? Kyndra: [00:01:48] I started my blog in 2011, but my first go around with low carb was much earlier than. Jillian: [00:02:06] So then you made your blog public? Kyndra: [00:02:08] I just kind of started sharing what I was eating and what I was cooking for John and me. And then from there it just took on a life of its own. Jillian: [00:02:15] That's so impressive. And one thing that I love about your site, is how you have a very strong point of view. And you've been able to really build a business around that point of view. And can you share how you... you're not just a blogger, you're also an entrepreneur and you sell cookbooks and meal plans and how did you start to think about that and build out those other lines of business? Kyndra: [00:02:44] You know I'm a chronic researcher, and I'm just an entrepreneur by nature. You know, I joke and I say that I came out of the womb ready to build a business. And for me, it's all research and passion based. Kyndra: [00:02:58] So once I decided to make a go of this and this is going to be my career, I just completely jumped in and I started researching everything. Snd then I thought, hey, I can compile these ideas into a meal plan. People need that. You know trying to provide solutions for the questions that I get every single day. Jillian: [00:03:15] I love that you are solving people's real problems. And where would people be reaching out to you? Was it on social media? Were they e-mailing you? Where were they connecting with you? Kyndra: [00:03:26] Oh geez. Everywhere. Comments directly on my blog. Even e-mail. Social media. Any spot that has an inbox. Mine was getting blown up. Jillian: [00:03:36] Interesting. So what was the first product you built to support your blog? Her first self-published recipe book Kyndra: [00:03:44] The first time, I self-published a book. I didn't even try to get on with the publisher. I just said I'm going to do this. I have a really great friend who is a graphic designer, and I said, "Would you be willing to do this with me?" Kyndra: [00:03:57] And he said yes, and I just self-publish a full length recipe cookbook. Jillian: [00:04:02] Were these recipes that were living on your blog, or did you develop the recipes for the book? Kyndra: [00:04:07] Some were on the site, some of the ones that were popular and were starting to get traction. I put them in the book and then I made a lot that were exclusive just to the book, as well. Jillian: [00:04:16] And then where did you start selling it? Kyndra: [00:04:19] I signed up through Lulu. It's a place where you can self-publish. And then I added it to Amazon. I'm just kind of used those channels and it's kind of harder to open up for wider distribution. And I just really was winging it all. And in hindsight I could have done it better. I mean that's kind of how it always goes right. Jillian: [00:04:42] And then how did you promote your first book, like how did you get sales? Kyndra: [00:04:48] Well, I got really lucky timing-wise because I like to call it the glory days of Facebook. Kyndra: [00:04:52] Before Facebook started adding all of these algorithms, I literally just posted and then within an hour, hundreds would sell because at the time, Facebook showed your post to all of your followers. And so I really didn't need to do much beyond that. It was kind of like just this really sweet spot in Facebook history. Jillian: [00:05:14] Yes. And then that inspired you to go on to write other books to build other products? What was that evolution like? Kyndra: [00:05:23] So from there, after that, that was kind of the only product that had for a while. I did some other smaller kind of niche books, like one just for side dishes. Again kind of solving problems, you would say. Kyndra: [00:05:36] Yeah, I can cook a steak, but what I serve with it that's low carb, you know? But then I went into a period where I really focused on the business of blogging. Treating her blog like a business Kyndra: [00:05:47] If you treat something like a hobby it's a hobby forever. So I believe that if you want to do something as a business, you treat it like it's a business while it's still just a hobby. Jillian: [00:05:57] Absolutely. Again it's all about mindset. Absolutely. So what did that shift look like for you, or how did you take what was a what somebody might say is like a small side hustle, and actually say, no, I'm going to pull this front and center. Kyndra: [00:06:12] You know I was still working full time in restaurants. Kyndra: [00:06:16] I have almost a 20-year background in the restaurant business, which I do think really helps me be successful in my own business, but I just again, I just started researching everything. If I didn't know it. I looked it up. I'm a person who if you ask me something and I don't know the answer, you can rest assured the next time somebody asks that question, I'm going to give them a whole dissertation about it so that you know. Kyndra: [00:06:41] So I just really kind of started looking into how to monetize and just totally fine tuning my craft, learning, growing, and in the beginning, I was even doing all the HTML coding for my site and I had no background in it. Jillian: [00:06:57] I love that. Now let's talk about what your revenue streams look like currently. Where do you make money? Kyndra: [00:07:08] They're all over the place. I am a firm believer that you don't put all your eggs in one basket, so I make a lot of money from the digital products that I sell through my site, and that just goes straight to me, affiliate programs with brands and companies that are aligned with my mission and vision and use their products. Jillian: [00:07:30] So what's an example then of an affiliate product that is on your site that you support? Monetizing through affiliate marketing Kyndra: [00:07:37] It can go a couple of different ways. So Amazon is a big affiliate program. So in my recipes, like take for example, I have a flourless chewy chocolate cookie recipe that has just gone crazy on my site. I like the products that I use, for example, the exact chocolate chips that I use, the only flour that I use, and then that brings in a small portion of revenue. People buy through those links. Jillian: [00:08:01] And with Amazon. It's really just they need to click over to Amazon and then if they buy a TV that day, so you make an affiliate fee. Kyndra: [00:08:12] Yes absolutely. And that's really great around the holidays, as well as people Christmas shopping. Jillian: [00:08:17] That's a good tip! Ok ok so you're also making money through affiliate sales. Kyndra: [00:08:26] And then a lot of times I'll do brand partnerships. They have their own affiliate programs built in. So if I have a, you know, a brand that I really like, I work a lot with a company called Low Carb Foods. And again they're just a small family-based business that they're really providing solutions, so they're putting out low carb products with clean ingredients that are diabetic friendly and I like them as people, I like their products. Monetizing through brand partnerships Kyndra: [00:08:52] So you'll see links to those I'll do it on my Instagram Stories or on my blog. But then another avenue with those brand partnerships is sponsored posts. So I'll say here is a package that you will get. I will do a review of your product on my site. Ill feature it in a recipe and it will go out in my newsletter. Do social media blasts. And then there's a package ready for that. So it's another revenue stream outside of their affiliate program. Jillian: [00:09:22] Now are you reaching out to these brands or are these brands reaching out to you? Kyndra: [00:09:26] You know, this is that's kind of funny because that was a real learning curve as well, as I grew this and it kind of goes with the lesson of never to sell yourself short. So in the beginning, I was reaching out to companies and was saying, here is the traffic on my site. Here is what I can give you in terms of exposure. Kyndra: [00:09:42] Please just send me your free product. So I valued myself by just letting them send me a free product and then promoting it all over the place. Kyndra: [00:09:52] And so these days it's more of filtering opportunities that are coming through me. And then there's a series of questions that I go through like, a mental checklist when I get these e-mails of brands and companies that would want to work with me and partner with Peace, Love, and Low Carb. Jillian: [00:10:08] Got it. So in the beginning we were reaching out to them and you were selling yourself short by just accepting product. And then over time, as you became more established, brands started reaching out to you. And you would then say great I'd like to work with you. Here is my package. Kyndra: [00:10:25] I have a media kit on my site, and it has several different options for ways to work together, as well as an option to set up a custom package. Jillian: [00:10:33] And do you have the pricing on your website? Kyndra: [00:10:36] You know I didn't used to. But then I thought it's not something to be ashamed of, my social clout and all my stats are there across all social channels. Why not go ahead and put the pricing on there. Then it kind of cuts down on the e-mails to take a look at the pricing, and they say hey I would never pay that. Or I only send free product. They don't e-mail and so it's less to filter through. Jillian: [00:10:56] I like that. I like that. OK. I just want to say a couple things that I notice that I think are really special about what you're doing. One, you are a food blogger but you're a niche food blogger. And I think that that has probably worked to your advantage because I know exactly what I'm going to get. If I'm a brand and I work with you,and I make low-carb foods, you're my person. I want that. So I think that again I always say this, the internet's a really big place, and if you can find your niche and go deep into it, and be authentic, I feel like you have a leg up. Like you have a leg up over your general food blogger. Now your cakes might not perform as well as those gooey delicious fondant cakes, but you've been able to really carve out a place for yourself on the Internet. So I just have to call that out. And that everything you've been able to build off of it, all comes from people who are really looking for low carb solutions. Kyndra: [00:12:12] It's a blessing and a curse. So for a while as you know, my own lifestyle changed and I tried different things. I really felt locked in because I actually had low carb in the title, and that kind of dietary climate wasn't always what it is. Kyndra: [00:12:27] Now there's a very big uptake in low carb in Paleo and it's great to see someone who is kind of at the forefront of that movement because my blog is heading into its seventh year. But in the beginning people poo-pooed low carb so much. Yes. And then when Paleo got really huge, you know a lot of the Paleo influencers were kind of bashing low carb as well. And so I kind of went through this period where, gosh, why you get so specific. Kyndra: [00:12:53] Now that people have caught on and we're kind of moving away from the fat phobic society that we've been in, now I'm able to say I stuck true to my mission for all of these years and it paid off. Jillian: [00:13:06] Yes. And again who knows. Like there is tremendous uncertainty in picking a name. and it might go your way. Like you were saying you were on Facebook at the exact time where you could sell books. So again sometimes you get lucky, like you with Facebook, it was the perfect time to be selling cookbooks on Facebook, but a lot of times also you make these opportunities for yourself by making a decision, seeing if it works, and if it's not working pull up and try something else. Jillian: [00:13:36] So let's go through the other income streams that you have that we haven't touched on. Monetizing through ads Kyndra: [00:13:43] OK. So obviously there is ad revenue from this site. That's a big one. Jillian: [00:13:48] And who and what ad network do you use? Kyndra: [00:13:51] I use AdThrive. And they they've been amazing for years. Jillian: [00:14:09] And we are big fans of Ad Thrive as well. Kyndra: [00:14:11] And some of the other ones is partnering with other bloggers to help promote their products through their affiliate programs. So it's still a form of affiliate marketing but it's kind of like a rising tide lifts all boats. Jillian: [00:14:23] I love that. I love that. So somebody will come to you who you probably know through social media and being in your niche and says, I have this new cookbook. Will you promote it and you get a cut of the sales. Is that how it works? Kyndra: [00:14:41] Yeah absolutely. And I always believed that there's enough room for all of us and that if you're coming from a place of authenticity and nature and passion that it doesn't matter if someone's doing something similarly to you. So for example I sell meal plans but I push other people's meal plas as well, because mine might not be right for them. Kyndra: [00:15:01] But this other blogger might have mealplans that worked for som…

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    #000 The Blogger Genius Podcast Will Help You Grow Your Business Dec 19, 2017
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    Welcome to The Blogger Genius Podcast brought to you by MiloTree.

    In this first episode, Jillian Leslie tells you about her background, explains why she's starting this podcast, and shares what bloggers and entrepreneurs will get out of it.

    So if you're trying to grow your online business, please subscribe to this podcast!

    And if you're trying to grow your social media followers on Instagram Facebook YouTube, and Pinterest, plus your email list, take a look at how MiloTree can help you.

    It is the smart popup you add to your blog or site, and it asks your visitors to follow you on social media or subscribe to your list.

    Sign up for MiloTree now and get your first 30 DAYS FREE!

    EPISODE #000 TRANSCRIPT Welcome to the Blogger Genius Podcast With Jillian Leslie

    Hey, welcome to the Blogger Genius Podcast. I'm your host Jillian Leslie. I'm also the founder of MiloTree with my husband, David. For those of you who don't know, MiloTree is a smart popup you add to your blog or your site, and it pops up and asks your visitors to follow you on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Pinterest, or join your email list.

    And it's smart because you configure it how you like, and it can grow multiple platforms at once.

    OK to give you a little backstory. My husband and I started our first online company called Catch My Party in 2009. So yes, we have been at this a long time.

    Since 2009, we've grown Catch My Party into the largest party idea site on the web, and I have been busy blogging ever since.

    One of the ways we grew our site was to grow our social media followers, and we did this by building our popup for ourselves.

    And it was only when it works so well did we launch it as a separate company. And we named it MiloTree after our favorite tree in Hawaii.

    So what is this podcast all about?

    Well, I created it because I think blogging is such a powerful way to build a business. But I also think blogging can be a little lonely. A lot of times you're trying stuff because someone told you to, and you don't know if it's going to work. And I think there's an element of flying blind when you're a blogger.

    So with this podcast, I wanted to interview other bloggers who have had success, and I want to ask them how they got started, and their strategies, even their failures.

    So this is a podcast where I want to learn the truth about people's businesses. I want to know how they monetize, what their income streams are, what social platforms are most important to them, what products they sell. Because no blog is the same as any other.And I also want to ask these bloggers how they balance everything in their lives. How many hours a week do they work.

    My goal is to give you real takeaways that you can apply to your own business, and I want to give you inspiration and insights. But I really want to give you ideas and a-ha moments that you can incorporate.

    And also I want this to be real. There are too many people telling you that they went from zero to seven figures in seven months, and I have to say don't believe them, because one thing I've learned in my journey as a blogger and entrepreneur is there are no magic bullets but...

    There are smart people finding smart ways to build businesses. And that's what I want to share.

    I think of this podcast as a co-creation between you and me. So if there are things you'd like me to ask my guests. or ideas you have for episodes please reach out. I read every email and respond. I'm jillian@milotree.com and please subscribe to this podcast. I promise you will learn something new and important in every episode. I look forward to taking this journey with you!


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