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    The Bitcoin Collective

    Welcome to The Bitcoin Collective podcast with Jordan Walker. Are you sick of finance bros and techie nerds saying to learn Bitcoin but then leaving you high and dry? Don’t worry, I’ve got you.

    On this podcast, you’ll hear real, honest and relatable stories, news and guests from the Bitcoin space. Nothing techie and geared towards helping you understand and keep up with Bitcoin.

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    What Would a Bitcoin-Native Bank Actually Look Like? | Piotr Bedkowski #223 May 21, 2026
    Show notes

    The pound has lost 95% of its purchasing power since 1971. Every fiat currency in history has eventually gone to zero. Bitcoin might be the first money that actually holds its value — and building the financial services around it is what Piotr, Product Manager at Xapo Bank, has spent years working on.


    In this episode, Jordan sits down with Piotr to explore:


    • How Piotr Bedkowski went from ING Bank sceptic to fully orange-pilled Bitcoiner
    • Why Xapo Bank only holds USD and BTC — and why that's a deliberate choice
    • The case for borrowing against Bitcoin instead of selling it
    • How Xapo's underground vaults earned the nickname "Fort Knox of Bitcoin"
    • Why rehypothecation of collateral is off the table at Xapo — full stop
    • Earning yield and monthly Bitcoin income from your existing stack
    • What the "iPhone moment" for global Bitcoin adoption might actually look like
    • Why Bitcoin-backed lending rates should, in theory, be the lowest in the world

    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 Intro — Bitcoin is currency for the people

    01:00 Welcome and Piotr's background

    02:00 Joining Xapo Bank and building wealth products

    04:00 Bitcoin-backed lending and yield on Bitcoin

    06:00 Discovering Bitcoin twice — and why most people do

    09:00 Looking for the next Bitcoin (and why that's a mistake)

    10:00 Currency debasement — Argentina, Europe, and everywhere else

    13:00 The history of money and why fiat always fails

    17:00 What Xapo Bank is actually building and why

    19:00 Self-custody vs. custodial — meeting people where they are

    22:00 Inside Xapo's vaults — the Fort Knox of Bitcoin

    27:00 MPC security and why transactions are now near-instant

    32:00 How Xapo decides what products to build next

    38:00 Bitcoin-backed cards and what's coming

    42:00 Zero rehypothecation — and why it matters

    44:00 The iPhone moment and Bitcoin's next ten years

    48:00 Why Bitcoin-backed lending rates should be the lowest


    🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/


    CONTACT JORDAN:

    X: https://x.com/JayW132

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/

    Email: hello@bitcoincollective.co


    CONTACT PIOTR:

    💬 X: http://x.com/piotrbed

    💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/piotrbedk/


    READ OUR NEWSLETTER:

    https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/


    LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eec

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613

    Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWN

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1


    All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.


    Borrow Against Bitcoin Without Selling a Single Sat — Xapo Bank's Product Manager Explains How

    Why Every Fiat Currency Eventually Goes to Zero — and What Comes Next

    Bitcoin-Backed Loans, Yield, and the Future of Money With Xapo Bank


    ⸻


    EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/


    Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.

    This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.


    The Plan to Put a Bitcoiner in Every Boardroom on Earth | Scott Ellam #222 May 14, 2026
    Show notes

    What if every executive recruiter on the planet became a Bitcoiner? That's not a thought experiment, it's Scott Ellam's actual plan.Scott is back on the show six months after taking XCE public. He breaks down how XCE is solving the three biggest problems facing private recruitment companies — cash leakage, scaling headcount, and the near-impossible exit — by structuring the entire business around a Bitcoin treasury.🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT SCOTT:💬 X: https://x.com/btconlyscott💼 LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/scott-p-ellam-5a097449Topics covered:- Why XCE presented at Bitcoin 2025 in Las Vegas as the first traditional operating business built around an active Bitcoin treasury- Accepting 0.516 Bitcoin as payment for a recruitment fee — and what comes next- How Adam Back has followed on through multiple raises, including a recent equity raise where 100% went into Bitcoin- XCE's performance-based equity scheme and how it's already attracting staff who aren't even Bitcoin-native- AI in executive recruitment — what it can do, what it can't, and why person-to-person roles may be the safest careers going forward- International settlement pain, stablecoins, and where Bitcoin fitsTIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro — Disrupting global executive recruitment with Bitcoin01:00 Welcome back: six months since the pre-IPO episode01:30 Bitcoin 2025 Las Vegas — what the conference felt like03:00 Who was in the room: institutions, nation states and Michael Saylor05:30 XCE's Vegas presentation: the first Bitcoin-treasury operating business06:30 The three biggest problems for private recruitment companies08:00 How XCE solves cash, scale and exit using Bitcoin10:00 Educating the recruitment industry on Bitcoin13:00 How private owners can join the XCE group without needing to self-custody17:00 Talent retention: Bitcoin-backed equity and the IPL analogy21:00 How XCE attracted staff who weren't Bitcoin-native28:30 Accepting 0.516 BTC as a recruitment fee — how it happened33:30 International settlement, stablecoins and Bitcoin rails38:00 The latest raise, Adam Back's continued backing and what's next41:30 AI inside XCE — from negotiation training to full business integration49:00 The K-shaped AI recovery and why high-skill careers will pull ahead55:00 Roadmap: growing Bitcoin per share, acquisitions and global disruptionREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.The Plan to Put a Bitcoiner in Every Boardroom on EarthHow a UK Recruitment Company Is Using Bitcoin to Disrupt a Global IndustryHow to Use Bitcoin to Solve the Three Biggest Problems in Recruitment⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.


    Why the UK Is Drifting on Bitcoin, And How to Fix It | Ben Cousens #221 May 07, 2026
    Show notes

    The UK has the talent, the capital, and the financial infrastructure. So why are Bitcoin founders still hesitating?


    Ben Cousens — Chief Strategy Officer at ZBD, co-founder of Antidote, and one of the few people who’s been backing Bitcoin businesses from inside venture capital — joins Jordan on the rooftop at Antidote’s Hatton Garden space to get into it.


    🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here:
    https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/


    CONTACT JORDAN:
    X: https://x.com/JayW132
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
    Email: hello@bitcoincollective.co


    CONTACT BEN:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bencousens/
    Website: https://antidotebtc.com/


    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 Intro — The UK Is Drifting, Not Falling Behind
    01:37 Ben’s Background — Video Games, Film and a Hard Pivot to Finance
    03:00 How Ben First Encountered Bitcoin
    04:15 The Hairdresser Top Signal and Selling at the 2017 Peak
    06:25 Top Three Video Games of All Time
    08:24 Getting Sign-Off to Research Bitcoin Inside a VC Fund
    09:33 Building a Bitcoin Investment Thesis at Lake Star
    11:15 What Is ZBD and How Does It Work?
    15:59 ZBD’s $40M Series C
    19:29 What People Get Wrong About Building Bitcoin Businesses
    25:15 The Moment Ben Decided to Found Antidote
    28:31 The UK Isn’t Falling Behind — It’s Drifting
    33:32 What Kind of Founders Is Antidote Looking For?
    38:48 How Early Do You Need to Be to Apply?
    41:50 Why Antidote Is Based on Hatton Garden
    49:53 Where Does Ben Want Antidote to Be in Five Years?


    READ OUR NEWSLETTER:
    https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/


    LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eec
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613
    Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWN
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1


    All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.


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    EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/


    Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.


    This Is What Bitcoin Adoption Actually Looks Like | Will Reeves #220 Apr 30, 2026
    Show notes

    A fast food chain integrated Bitcoin payments in a matter of weeks, and same-store sales went up 10%. That’s not a marketing stunt. That’s the flywheel starting to turn.


    Will Reeves, CEO of Fold, joins Jordan to break down what Bitcoin adoption actually looks like for businesses right now — and why the companies moving early are building advantages that will be almost impossible to close later.


    🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here:

    https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/


    CONTACT JORDAN:

    X: https://x.com/JayW132

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/

    Email: hello@bitcoincollective.co


    CONTACT WILL:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/will-reeves/

    Website: https://x.com/willreeves


    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 Intro — Every Business Activity Should Earn You Bitcoin

    01:00 What Is Fold and How Does It Work?

    06:00 Bitcoin Rewards — Meeting People Where They Are

    10:00 Why Most People Get Into Bitcoin Through Skin in the Game

    15:00 Will’s Personal Bitcoin Origin Story

    20:30 Fold for Business — How It Started

    24:00 The Steak and Shake Bitcoin Bonus Programme

    28:00 Will Businesses Start Rewarding Customers in Bitcoin?

    32:00 Why the Infrastructure Flywheel Is Finally Ready

    36:30 The Supply Chain Effect — Bitcoin Daisy-Chaining Through Industries

    46:00 Fold Is Not a Bitcoin Treasury Company — Here’s Why

    49:30 “Bitcoin Is Not the Goal. The Life It Enables Is.”

    54:00 What’s Coming Next for Fold and Bitcoin Business Adoption


    READ OUR NEWSLETTER:

    https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/


    LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eec

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613

    Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWN

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1


    All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.


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    EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/


    Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.


    Why This Non-profit Started Accepting Bitcoin | Dr Sheela Sharma #219 Apr 15, 2026
    Show notes

    A nonprofit in West London is accepting Bitcoin donations to fund the next generation of entrepreneurs — and it all started with one conversation at a judging panel.

    Sheela Sharma is CEO of Portobello Business Centre, a 30-year-old nonprofit that helps underserved entrepreneurs — 70% of them women — start and grow their own businesses. Before that, she spent 14 years in investment banking, including as an equity analyst at Merrill Lynch covering medical devices and pharma. She came in knowing nothing about finance. She left as a COO.


    🇬🇧 Portobello Business Centre are members of BBN. Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/


    Contact Sheela:

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-sheela-sharma/

    Website: https://www.pbc.co.uk/


    00:00 Opening clip — Bitcoin donations for entrepreneurs

    00:40 Introduction and welcome

    01:30 From Oxford DPhil to Merrill Lynch — the unlikely pivot

    03:30 Learning to value medical technology companies

    05:30 "What is a share price?" — the interview moment

    06:30 14 years in investment banking: analyst to COO

    07:30 Why she left — and what pushed her out

    08:30 Joining Portobello Business Centre as chair, then CEO

    10:00 The brands PBC has supported — Innocent Drinks, Charlie Bigham's, Karen Millen

    12:00 Why PBC started accepting Bitcoin

    14:00 Getting set up: Strike, Coin Corner and the Sustainable Society Trust

    16:30 Understanding Bitcoin six months in

    19:00 The utility of Bitcoin as a payment and store of value

    21:00 Financial education in the UK — what's missing

    24:00 Should entrepreneurship be taught in schools?

    27:30 The scrunchie business — born at age 11

    31:00 Roberta Huntington, Vinted and the power of simple ideas

    34:00 Entrepreneurship as mindset — can it be taught?

    39:00 The businesses PBC supports today

    44:00 Why storytelling wins pitches

    45:00 B Corp certification explained

    48:00 The Bitcoin and B Corp community overlap

    53:00 Bitcoin's future role in funding early-stage entrepreneurs

    59:00 One piece of advice for anyone thinking about starting a business


    LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eec

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613

    Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWN

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1


    This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice.


    ⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/


    Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.


    Building the UK's Biggest Bitcoin Treasury Company | Andrew Webley #218 Apr 07, 2026
    Show notes

    Andrew Webley is back for episode three. Since we last spoke in July, Smarter Web Company has achieved its London Stock Exchange main market listing, entered the FTSE All Share and FTSE Small Cap indices, grown its Bitcoin stack to nearly 2,700 BTC, and completed an acquisition that has grown revenue by roughly 10x. Not bad for a bear market.


    Jordan sits back down with Andrew to find out what's next, what Saylor told him at Strategy World, why he believes a Bitcoin treasury company will one day be the biggest company in the UK, and what a UK income equity product could look like.


    🇬🇧 The Smarter Web Company are members of BBN. Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/


    CONTACT JORDAN:

    X: https://x.com/JayW132

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/

    Email: hello@bitcoincollective.co


    FOLLOW ANDREW:

    X: https://x.com/asjwebley

    Website: https://www.smarterwebcompany.co.uk/


    CHAPTERS:

    00:00 Coming up

    00:34 Andrew returns to the podcast

    02:15 Why bear markets help builders

    02:58 What SWC achieved in the last six months

    03:48 FTSE index inclusion and what it means

    05:19 Share price vs MNAV frustration

    07:22 What shareholders should track instead of price

    08:44 Why treasuries can beat ETFs over time

    13:20 The three education jobs SWC must do

    15:44 What Andrew saw at Strategy World

    22:26 Debanking still holding the UK back

    25:27 Everything slowly then suddenly

    28:19 Next milestones FTSE 250 and beyond

    34:39 What the LSE listing changed with institutions

    38:07 Stretch and the idea of UK income equity

    45:19 Why the operating business matters


    READ OUR NEWSLETTER:

    https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/


    LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eec

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613

    Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWN

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1


    All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.


    ⸻


    EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/


    Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.


    Debanking Is Driving Business Out of the UK | Keith Grose #217 Mar 25, 2026
    Show notes

    The UK says it wants to be a global crypto hub. But banks are still closing accounts for anyone who touches Bitcoin, stablecoin holding caps are being proposed, and a Bitcoin ETN U-turn is threatening to force retail investors to lock in losses. So is the UK actually serious, or just saying the right things?


    Keith Grose, CEO of Coinbase UK, joins Jordan Walker to give his honest take on where the UK stands, what's going wrong, and what needs to change.


    Available now on YouTube and all podcast platforms.


    🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/

    CONTACT JORDAN:

    X: https://x.com/JayW132

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/

    Email: hello@bitcoincollective.co


    CONTACT KEITH:

    X: https://x.com/kmgrose

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithgrose/


    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro and why banking apps will add crypto

    00:49 Keith joins the show

    01:19 Keith’s role as CEO of Coinbase UK

    02:13 Is the UK serious about being a crypto hub

    03:30 Keith’s background in payments infrastructure

    05:22 UK vs US on innovation and regulation

    08:17 What the UK must do to stay competitive

    09:24 Fixing regulatory clarity and stablecoin rules

    10:03 The UK culture shift around investing

    12:18 Coinbase equities and why investing habits matter

    13:47 Debanking in the UK why it’s still happening

    15:51 Two types of debanking and why both matter

    21:50 Stablecoins and Lightning practical use cases

    26:21 How banks are reacting behind the scenes

    30:50 Why institutions are moving faster than retail

    35:32 The stablecoin holding cap problem in the UK

    39:22 The Bitcoin ETN ISA mess and shifting goalposts

    42:05 Making Bitcoin a normal long term holding

    47:54 What a pro innovation UK framework looks like

    51:00 Closing thoughts and wrap up


    READ OUR NEWSLETTER: https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/


    LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eec

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613

    Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWN

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1


    All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.

    ⸻

    EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/

    Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.



    Why Treasury Companies Need Lightning | Dave Lund #216 Mar 18, 2026
    Show notes

    Most Bitcoin treasury companies are sitting on their Bitcoin and paying custody fees. But there's a way to make that Bitcoin work, earning native yield on the Lightning Network, without giving up your keys or taking on counterparty risk.Dave Lund, co-founder of FlowRate, joins Jordan Walker to break down one of the most underexplored business models in Bitcoin right now, and why treasury companies may be the key to unlocking the Lightning Network's next phase of growth.Available now on YouTube and all podcast platforms.🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: hello@bitcoincollective.coCONTACT DAVE:X: https://x.com/davelund_Flowrate: https://www.flowrate.com/ Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up00:31 Welcome and why Lightning matters01:13 Dave’s background and why he built Flowrate03:12 Swedish Bitcoin Association and Lightning growth04:37 Bitcoin as asset vs money and why payments matter08:51 Utility argument and why Lightning unlocks adoption10:53 What Flowrate is and the Lightning “ISP” analogy19:29 How Flowrate works with treasury companies27:11 Liquidity leasing explained for businesses34:00 The inbound liquidity problem and why it blocks adoption42:30 Security trade-offs and how to deploy safely54:02 ARK and what comes after Lightning55:30 Closing thoughts and follow-up planREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.#Bitcoin #Flowrate #lightningnetwork The Lightning Network Business Model Nobody Is Talking AboutThe Bitcoin Yield Strategy Most Treasury Companies Haven't Tried YetHow to Earn Yield on Bitcoin Without Giving Up Your Keys


    Inside Strategy: How the World's Biggest Bitcoin Company Actually Works | Chaitanya Jain #215 Mar 11, 2026
    Show notes

    CJ, part of the Bitcoin team at Strategy, joins Jordan to explain what’s really happening behind the company’s new preferred equities — and why Stretch is becoming a headline product.


    🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/


    CONTACT JORDAN:

    X: https://x.com/JayW132

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/

    Email: hello@bitcoincollective.co


    CONTACT CJ:

    X: https://x.com/CJ_Bitcoin

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jainchaitanya


    CHAPTERS:

    00:00 Intro

    00:51 CJ’s role on Strategy’s Bitcoin team

    02:12 What CJ does day to day

    05:25 Behind Saylor’s messaging and Strategy’s content

    08:34 What CJ has learned working closely with Saylor

    11:22 Why Strategy uses AI so aggressively

    14:21 How the Bitcoin and software sides fit together

    17:07 Strategy’s model explained (Jesse Meyers graphic)

    24:27 What Stretch is and why it exists

    27:27 How Stretch helps Strategy buy more Bitcoin

    31:07 How the dividend rate gets set and adjusted

    34:43 Stretch vs stablecoin yield

    38:44 Why Stretch could be Strategy’s “iPhone moment”

    41:41 Who can copy this model and why size matters

    44:46 Building products on top of Stretch outside the US

    46:28 A UK bank product backed by Stretch

    47:48 Why it’s attractive for businesses holding cash

    50:07 Why “Bitcoin for corporations” may now be Stretch

    52:53 Where to learn more and what’s coming next


    READ OUR NEWSLETTER:

    https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/


    LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eec

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613

    Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWN

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1


    All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.


    ⸻


    EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/


    Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.


    What AI Means for Bitcoin and Business | Jeff Booth #214 Mar 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Jeff Booth, entrepreneur and author of The Price of Tomorrow, joins Jordan to discuss what AI and Bitcoin mean for business owners trying to stay resilient through rapid change.


    They explore why AI is still in its earliest stages, how exponential technology is already collapsing costs and changing execution, and why businesses that fail to adapt may struggle to survive. Jeff also explains why Bitcoin matters as a long-term foundation for preserving value, how he would integrate it into a non-Bitcoin business today, and why curiosity and agency matter more than fear in the years ahead.


    🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/


    CONTACT JORDAN:

    X: https://x.com/JayW132

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/

    Email: hello@bitcoincollective.co


    CONTACT JEFF:

    X: https://x.com/JeffBooth

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-booth-8a1b1a1/

    Book: https://www.thepriceoftomorrow.com/


    CHAPTERS:

    00:00 Intro

    01:00 Why Jeff’s book matters now

    02:17 Are we seeing The Price of Tomorrow play out

    06:17 AI is the worst it will ever be

    09:14 How AI collapses time from vision to execution

    10:55 Shiny objects vs real AI leverage in business

    13:31 AI agents, energy, and what happens next

    15:47 Why Bitcoin matters in an AI-driven world

    18:28 How Jeff would integrate Bitcoin into a business

    24:14 Why entrepreneurs are best placed to adapt

    27:39 What a deflationary world means for business

    32:27 Manipulated money, truth, and distorted incentives

    40:00 Bitcoin and AI are different but converging

    46:07 What Jeff says to people worried about AI jobs

    48:35 Bitcoiners missing the signal in the noise

    50:02 Jeff’s advice for the next five years

    51:23 Stay curious and take agency


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