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    The Beyond Addiction Show

    The Beyond Addiction show is a weekly podcast hosted by Dr. Josh King where he talks about the evidence-based treatments of substance abuse and other co-occurring behaviors. In his role as Director of Digital and Clinical Service Integration at the Center for Motivation and Change in New York City, Dr. King interviews leaders in the fields of treatment and research, as well as talking to those people who are working to change the conversation around substance use.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Is Online Therapy As Effective As In-Person Therapy? with Dr. Ashley Batastini Feb 17, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Josh King welcomes you to another episode and a new season of The Beyond Addiction Show.

    One year ago, our lives changed dramatically as our society moved online, as our work moved online, our therapy did it as well, and since that happened many people have wondered if therapy done over the internet is as effective as therapy done in person.

    Today, Dr. King is accompanied by Dr. Ashley Batastini, a teacher and a researcher at the University of Memphis who shares her research about the efficacy of online therapy.

    Key Takeaways:

    [2:43] Dr. Batastini has been researching online therapy for over a decade.

    [5:25] What are the misconceptions about online therapy?

    [7:41] Teletherapy is not that new, it actually began in 1997.

    [14:20] Dr. Batastini talks about her research.

    [16:46] Research shows that online therapy works as well as in-person therapy.

    [18:21] Dr. Batastini explains why women have better outcomes having online therapy.

    [22:01] Who are the people that would benefit the most from online therapy?

    [25:30] Online therapy can help to shorten the wealth and power gap in regards to access to treatment.

    [28:42] Teletherapy has played a key role during the pandemic.

    [31:15] Dr. Batastini talks about the case of the agoraphobic patient benefiting from online therapy.

    [35:25] The I-don't-have-time-for-therapy kind of person can also benefit from online therapy.

    [38:56] Dr. Batastini talks about The Batastini Psych Lab.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    The Beyond Addiction Show

    Center for Motivation and Change

    Center for Motivation and Change on Facebook

    Center for Motivation and Change on Twitter

    Center for Motivation and Change on Linkedin

    Email Dr. Josh King at beyondaddiction@motivationandchange.com or tweet him at @DocJoshKing

    Learn more about Dr. Ashley Batastini

    Email Dr. Batastini at ashley.batastini@memphis.edu

    Tweetables and Quotes:

    "Research shows that online therapy works as well as in-person therapy, in even in some cases it shows to be a better way on a patient engagement aspect." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "Online therapy can be not the best approach for people that are psychotic, have delusions, or paranoia." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "Most people can use online therapy and get benefits from it." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "Online therapy can help to shorten the wealth and power gap in regards to access to treatment." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing


    How COVID-19 Is Impacting Our Adolescents with Dr. Shannon Caspersen Feb 10, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Josh King welcomes you to another episode and a new season of The Beyond Addiction Show. The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a huge impact on everyone and has caused an alarming rise in substance use among adults, but what about our adolescents? has the increased time at home around their parents prevent them from using substances?

    Today, Dr. King is accompanied again by Dr. Shannon Caspersen who is an adolescent psychiatrist, to talk about the impact that COVID-19 has had on adolescents' substance use. In today's episode, Dr. Caspersen walks us through a case so you get to look at it through the eyes of a psychologist.

    Key Takeaways:

    [2:18] Did adolescents' alcohol and substance use decrease as a result of the pandemic?

    [3:26] How did adolescents find their way to get drugs?

    [4:18] What is driving the adolescents' use at this point of the pandemic?

    [5:37] The role of academic stress on adolescents' substance use.

    [6:38] There has been a rise in anxiety in general since the strike of COVID-19.

    [7:48] The challenges of the remote learning experience.

    [8:30] Dr. Caspersen explains what a case presentation is about.

    [10:45] Dr. Caspersen presents a very typical case of adolescent substance use.

    [13:37] The benefits of being diagnosed with ADHD: medication and extra time for tests.

    [15:05] Dr. Caspersen talks about the subculture of stimulants as performance-enhancing medication even though the data does not support this concept.

    [18:20] Cannabis used to treat sleeping problems.

    [19:04] The perceived pros of marijuana use for an average adolescent.

    [21:47] ADHD is associated with substance use.

    [24:08] Dr. Caspersen describes marijuana withdrawal symptoms: nausea, anxiety, excessive sweating, and even fever.

    [26:10] Dr. Caspersen talks about the many ways that adolescents find to get drugs.

    [28:43] A high use of marijuana can cause ADHD-like symptoms.

    [30:15] Exploring the negative sides of using marijuana.

    [31:14] Dr. Caspersen talks about contingency management: behavioral rewards and consequences that parents can provide to their adolescents struggling with drug use.

    [34:01] Dr. Caspersen extends her suggestion to all parents who have their children at home: Take advantage of this time to get to know your kids' behaviors.

    [36:30] COVID-19 has set boundaries that parents have difficulty imposing on their children.

    [37:44] Parents have to model the behaviors that they expect out of their children.

    [41:43] Why are case studies so useful?

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    The Beyond Addiction Show

    Center for Motivation and Change

    Center for Motivation and Change on Facebook

    Center for Motivation and Change on Twitter

    Center for Motivation and Change on Linkedin

    Email Dr. Josh King at beyondaddiction@motivationandchange.com or tweet him at @DocJoshKing

    Learn more about Dr. Shannon Caspersen

    Dr. Shannon Caspersen on Twitter

    Dr. Shannon Caspersen on Instagram

    Tweetables and Quotes:

    "Adolescents usually don't deal directly with a dealer, but get the drugs from a friend that can have contact with another friend who deals with the dealer." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "Adolescents are more dependent on substances than what they or their parents realized." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "In regards to academics, since the pandemic has started, it is absolutely harder to stay engaged and feel that you know where you stand in the remote learning experience." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "Adolescents tend to think that if they take stimulants they would perform better on exams, even though research does not support this idea." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "People who have a diagnosis of ADHD are more prone to substance use." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "High use of marijuana can cause ADHD-like symptoms." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "Get the time to know your kids' behaviors." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing

    "Parents have to model the behaviors that they expect out of their children." @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing


    Self-Compassion During a Global Pandemic with Dr. Christopher Germer Feb 03, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Josh King welcomes you to another episode and a new season of The Beyond Addiction Show which comes with a new format to deliver the best interviews with leaders in the field of mental health and substance use disorders.

    Today, Dr. King is accompanied by Dr. Christopher Germer, the co-author of The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook: A Proven Way to Accept Yourself, Build Inner Strength, and Thrive, and a leader in the field of self-compassion therapy. Dr. King and Dr. Germer dive deeply into the subject of self-compassion in the midst of a global pandemic and how it is now more important than ever to be compassionate to ourselves.

    Key Takeaways:

    [2:50] Why is the pandemic the right moment for more self-compassion?

    [5:01] We haven't been taught to love ourselves.

    [6:11] We are not instinctively kind to ourselves; we need to learn.

    [6:53] Dr. Germer talks about the evolutionary aspect of our lack of self-compassion.

    [9:03] How is COVID-19 triggering our threat and nervous systems?

    [11:28] Living with uncertainty.

    [12:20] Dr. Germer talks about Zoom fatigue.

    [15:01] What is self-compassion? How can you be more compassionate to yourself?

    [19:20] How can self-compassion help to choose better daily habits?

    [23:45] How to begin paying more attention to what you need to feel and choose better?

    [28:20] Shame is not a motivator!

    [29:40] Start self-compassion by first connecting and then motivating through encouragement.

    [32:31] How can you use self-compassion against the tendency to look for the instant gratification drugs and alcohol offer?

    [36:35] How can you get out of the cycle of using substances to avoid feeling terrible and then feeling shame for doing it? Begin to BE KIND to YOURSELF!

    [41:10] Dr. Germer talks about being in the process of writing a book about shame.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    The Beyond Addiction Show

    Center for Motivation and Change

    Center for Motivation and Change on Facebook

    Center for Motivation and Change on Twitter

    Center for Motivation and Change on Linkedin

    Email Dr. Josh King at beyondaddiction@motivationandchange.com or tweet him at @DocJoshKing

    The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook: A Proven Way to Accept Yourself, Build Inner Strength, and Thrive, Kristin Neff and Christopher Germer

    Center for Mindful and Self Compassion


    Learning About you Caveman Mind - With Dr. Russ Harris Jun 25, 2020
    Show notes

    Our world has evolved much faster than our brains, and our caveman minds are often still controlling our reactions to the world. Today, Dr. Russ Harris joins us to discuss how our minds work, how that impacts our everyday life, and how we can tolerate discomfort to help live a more valued life. BONUS: We talk about COVID, tips on how to tolerate and survive it, and how you can talk to your children about the uncertainty of this period of time.


    Food Myths in America with Dr. Camilla Mager Jun 18, 2020
    Show notes

    Is sugar addictive? Is BMI a good judge of my overall health and weight? Which diet should I choose? We look at all these questions and other food myths on this episode with Dr. Camilla Mager.


    Talking about Race and Whiteness with Dr. Lisa Martin and Cyndi Carnaghi-Collins Jun 11, 2020
    Show notes

    The murder of George Floyd sparked protests and pushed America into having a long overdue conversation about race, power, and privilege. Today, Dr. Lisa Martin and Cyndi Carnaghi-Collins, both antiracism trainers and therapists, talk to us about how these protests and these conversations can help us to begin to change and heal our broken society.


    The Collective Trauma of COVID-19 with Dr. David Yusko May 28, 2020
    Show notes

    The current pandemic is leaving scars in every community on the planet. Today we talk to Dr. David Yusko about the trauma we are all experiencing, how we can help protect ourselves from developing PTSD, and what you can do if you're having a strong traumatic response.


    Eat Well and Prosper with Rebecca Appleman, RD May 21, 2020
    Show notes

    It's hard enough to eat healthy and balanced in our regular life, but in the time of COVID, it can feel downright impossible. Registered Dietician Rebecca Appleman joins us today to talk about what RD's do, how they do it, and how you can be healthy and balanced even while practicing social distancing.


    Exploring Shame and Stigma with Jason Luoma May 14, 2020
    Show notes

    Shame and Stigma are very difficult emotions that impact functioning and willingness to engage in treatment. Today, we explore Shame and Stigma with Dr. Jason Luoma and find out how to treat it and how to help someone who is struggling with their shame.


    Treating Substance Use Disorders Online with Holly Whitaker & Julia Bernstein May 07, 2020
    Show notes

    Holly Whitaker is the founder, CEO, and driving force behind Tempest, an online treatment program for substance use disorders and Julia Bernstein is the COO. They join us to talk about Tempest, online treatment, taking a new approach to dealing with substance use disorders, and why now is the time to change your drinking.


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