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The BetterLife Podcast

Uncover the secrets to living a BetterLife with us – investors and friends, Brandon Turner & Cam Cathcart. Join our conversations about real estate investing, wealth building, and lifestyle design with industry experts and seasoned entrepreneurs. Join us as we explore the habits, actions, and beliefs that will lead you to your BetterLife without losing your soul.

Copyright: © BetterLife 2023

Latest Episodes:

Real Estate Investing Kinda Sucks Right Now. What We’re Doing About It Nov 11, 2025

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Real estate in 2025? It's rough. Brandon's dealing with plummeting rents and property values. Cam's flipping half the houses he used to. But hard times separate the winners from the quitters.

Today, we're getting brutally honest about what's NOT working right now and exactly what we're doing to get through it. From moving 3,000 miles to solve problems, to pursuing a “fringe” cashflow strategy, to building systems that'll crush it when the market turns—we're sharing our 8-step playbook.

Plus: the coming shift in 2027 that could change everything (really!).

If you're struggling right now, feeling like giving up, or just want to know how to position yourself to build monster wealth on the next wave—this one's for you.

🧔‍♂️ WHO ARE WE?

Our names are Brandon Turner and Cam Cathcart! We teach people how to BUILD WEALTH WITHOUT LOSING THEIR SOUL through real estate investing!

1️⃣ WANT TO GET YOUR FIRST DEAL?

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📈 WANT TO SCALE YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO?

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🤝 CONNECT WITH ME ON INSTAGRAM

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DM me the word “FRINGE” to get the FREE “Cashflow Isn’t Dead” E-Book

👋 CONNECT WITH CAM ON INSTAGRAM

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📚 READ ONE OF MY BOOKS

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☝️DISCLAIMER

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Proximity is Power | Ep 171 Sep 30, 2025

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🏠 JOIN MY FREE 5-DAY DEAL ANALYSIS CHALLENGE

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🧔‍♂️ WHO ARE WE?

Our names are Brandon Turner and Cam Cathcart! We teach people how to BUILD WEALTH WITHOUT LOSING THEIR SOUL through real estate investing!

1️⃣ WANT TO GET YOUR FIRST DEAL?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.firstdeal.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

📈 WANT TO SCALE YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🤝 CONNECT WITH ME ON INSTAGRAM

⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/beardybrandon/⁠⁠

👋 CONNECT WITH CAM ON INSTAGRAM

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🙌 CONNECT WITH GAGE ON INSTAGRAM

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📚 READ ONE OF MY BOOKS

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• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BetterLife Tribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: If you're an existing real estate investor and you want to scale but you don't know how to supercharge your journey, just know... I've been there! And if that's you, check out my personal mastermind for EXISTING INVESTORS ONLY called the BetterLife Tribe at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🎥 DESCRIPTION

On this episode, I sit down with Gage Heward on the Proximity is Power podcast and break down one of the biggest principles that changed my life and business: proximity is power. I share how intentionally surrounding myself with mentors, peers, and communities of high achievers accelerated my growth from small-time investor to running a $80M+ portfolio. This is a candid look at why relationships, masterminds, and the right environments matter more than raw tactics when it comes to building wealth and a better life.

❌ DISCLAIMER

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Skip the Fluff: Become a Millionaire by 40 | Ep 170 Sep 23, 2025

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🏠 JOIN MY FREE 5-DAY DEAL ANALYSIS CHALLENGE

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🧔‍♂️ WHO ARE WE?

Our names are Brandon Turner and Cam Cathcart! We teach people how to BUILD WEALTH WITHOUT LOSING THEIR SOUL through real estate investing!

1️⃣ WANT TO GET YOUR FIRST DEAL?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.firstdeal.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

📈 WANT TO SCALE YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO?

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🤝 CONNECT WITH ME ON INSTAGRAM

⁠https://www.instagram.com/beardybrandon/⁠

🙌 CONNECT WITH CAM ON INSTAGRAM

⁠https://www.instagram.com/cam.cathcart/⁠

📚 READ ONE OF MY BOOKS

⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/bb_pod_storefront⁠⁠⁠⁠

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• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BetterLife Tribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: If you're an existing real estate investor and you want to scale but you don't know how to supercharge your journey, just know... I've been there! And if that's you, check out my personal mastermind for EXISTING INVESTORS ONLY called the BetterLife Tribe at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🎥 DESCRIPTION

On this episode, I, share the 40 real lessons I’ve learned on my journey to becoming a millionaire before turning 40. These aren’t theories or fluff — they’re the principles, habits, and mindset shifts that actually worked for me and thousands of others. From setting a scary vision and house hacking my first property to avoiding lifestyle creep and building systems, this episode is a no-nonsense playbook for anyone serious about wealth, freedom, and living a better life.

❌ DISCLAIMER

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"Is now a good time to buy a house?" | Ep 169 Sep 16, 2025

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🏠 JOIN MY FREE 5-DAY DEAL ANALYSIS CHALLENGE

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🧔‍♂️ WHO ARE WE?

My name is Brandon Turner! I teach people how to BUILD WEALTH WITHOUT LOSING THEIR SOUL through real estate investing!

1️⃣ WANT TO GET YOUR FIRST DEAL?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.firstdeal.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

📈 WANT TO SCALE YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO?

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📚 READ ONE OF MY BOOKS

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• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BetterLife Tribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: If you're an existing real estate investor and you want to scale but you don't know how to supercharge your journey, just know... I've been there! And if that's you, check out my personal mastermind for EXISTING INVESTORS ONLY called the BetterLife Tribe at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🎥 DESCRIPTION

Today, In this episode, I sit down with Graham and Jack from the Iced Coffee Hour podcast and share my biggest lessons from building wealth. From house hacking my first property, to house hacking my current $5M property, and scaling a multimillion dollar portfolio, we break down the real life truth behind real estate investing in 2025.

Specifically, we talk about:

• the importance of creating a vision first: reverse engineering your future

• buying assets, not liabilities

• house hacking to lower expenses and build wealth

• focusing on systems, consistency, and cash flow

• and so much more!

❌ DISCLAIMER

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Finding Balance in the Beautiful Chaos of Fatherhood | Ep 168 Sep 09, 2025

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🏠 GET MY FREE RENTAL PROPERTY CALCULATOR

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🧔‍♂️ WHO ARE WE?

Our names are Brandon Turner and Cam Cathcart! We teach people how to BUILD WEALTH WITHOUT LOSING THEIR SOUL through real estate investing!

1️⃣ WANT TO GET YOUR FIRST DEAL?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.firstdeal.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

📈 WANT TO SCALE YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🤝 CONNECT WITH ME ON INSTAGRAM

https://www.instagram.com/beardybrandon/

🙌 CONNECT WITH CAM ON INSTAGRAM

https://www.instagram.com/cam.cathcart/

📚 READ ONE OF MY BOOKS

⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/bb_pod_storefront⁠⁠⁠

🙏 SPONSORS

• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TurboTenant⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: Market your rental, screen tenants, and collect rent… all in one place! Use the code BRANDON10 to get 10% off upon sign-up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/tt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or check out all of their incredible FREE resources for landlords at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/toolbox_pod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BetterLife Tribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: If you're an existing real estate investor and you want to scale but you don't know how to supercharge your journey, just know... I've been there! And if that's you, check out my personal mastermind for EXISTING INVESTORS ONLY called the BetterLife Tribe at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🎥 DESCRIPTION

On this episode, Cam steals the show and opens up about his personal journey from being a broke youth pastor in Missouri to building an $18M real estate portfolio while living in Maui. He shares how a $15,000 hospital bill and a clear vision exercise changed everything for him, leading to bold sacrifices like moving into his in-laws’ basement and flipping their first home with no money. This is a story about vision, sacrifice, and the relentless pursuit of building a better life.

Specifically, he talks about:

• vision matters more than tactics

• sacrifice often looks like setbacks

• consistent daily actions create alignment with your vision• clear vision turned -$60K debt into an $18M portfolio

• and so much more!

❌ DISCLAIMER

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/bb_pod_disclaimer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

How I Went from Single Family to MultiFamily Investing (and why) Sep 02, 2025

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🧔‍♂️ WHO ARE WE?

Our names are Brandon Turner and Cam Cathcart! We teach people how to BUILD WEALTH WITHOUT LOSING THEIR SOUL through real estate investing!

1️⃣ WANT TO GET YOUR FIRST DEAL?

⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.firstdeal.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠

📈 WANT TO SCALE YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🤝 CONNECT WITH ME ON INSTAGRAM

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🙌 CONNECT WITH TANNER ON INSTAGRAM

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📚 READ ONE OF MY BOOKS

⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/bb_pod_storefront⁠⁠

🙏 SPONSORS

• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TurboTenant⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: Market your rental, screen tenants, and collect rent… all in one place! Use the code BRANDON10 to get 10% off upon sign-up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/tt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or check out all of their incredible FREE resources for landlords at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/toolbox_pod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BetterLife Tribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: If you're an existing real estate investor and you want to scale but you don't know how to supercharge your journey, just know... I've been there! And if that's you, check out my personal mastermind for EXISTING INVESTORS ONLY called the BetterLife Tribe at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🎥 DESCRIPTION

On this episode, I join Tanner Litchfield to share my journey from small beginnings into scaling a multimillion-dollar real estate portfolio. I talk about the early struggles, the strategies that worked, and the mindset shifts that helped me move from single-family deals into large multifamily and beyond. We dive into raising capital, building teams, and the lessons I’ve learned about scaling without losing sight of what really matters in life.

Specifically, we talk about:

• how I went from single-family to multifamily

• why raising capital changed everything

• the mistakes I made while scaling fast

• how to build a team and freedom at the same time

• and so much more!

❌ DISCLAIMER

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/bb_pod_disclaimer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Pivoting from Pharma to Real Estate Investing | Chase Ingram (Ep 166) Aug 26, 2025

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🏠 JOIN MY FREE 5-DAY DEAL ANALYSIS CHALLENGE

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🧔‍♂️ WHO AM I?

My name is Brandon Turner! I teach people how to BUILD WEALTH WITHOUT LOSING THEIR SOUL through real estate investing!

1️⃣ WANT TO GET YOUR FIRST DEAL?

⁠⁠⁠https://www.firstdeal.com/⁠⁠⁠

📈 WANT TO SCALE YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🤝 CONNECT WITH ME ON INSTAGRAM

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🙌 CONNECT WITH CHASE ON INSTAGRAM

⁠https://www.instagram.com/chase.ingram/

📚 READ ONE OF MY BOOKS

⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/bb_pod_storefront⁠

🙏 SPONSORS

• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TurboTenant⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: Market your rental, screen tenants, and collect rent… all in one place! Use the code BRANDON10 to get 10% off upon sign-up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/tt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or check out all of their incredible FREE resources for landlords at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/toolbox_pod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BetterLife Tribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: If you're an existing real estate investor and you want to scale but you don't know how to supercharge your journey, just know... I've been there! And if that's you, check out my personal mastermind for EXISTING INVESTORS ONLY called the BetterLife Tribe at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🎥 DESCRIPTION

On this episode, I talk with Chase Ingram, a pharmaceutical sales rep and gym owner turned real estate investor, about building discipline, pursuing mastery, and finding fulfillment beyond the scoreboard. Chase shares his journey from chasing competition wins to building a life built on purpose, the systems that keep him consistent, and the mindset shifts that help him push through challenges in training, business, and life.

Specifically, we talk about:

• how to build discipline

• importance of focusing on mastery, not just results

• building systems to stay consistent

• identify shifts

• and so much more!

❌ DISCLAIMER

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/bb_pod_disclaimer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Campground Cash Flow: How a Corporate Dropout is Building a Real Estate Empire and a Lifestyle Business All In One | Kevin Thueson (Ep 165) Aug 19, 2025

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🏠 JOIN MY FREE 5-DAY DEAL ANALYSIS CHALLENGE

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🧔‍♂️ WHO ARE WE?

Our names are Brandon Turner and Cam Cathcart! We teach people how to BUILD WEALTH WITHOUT LOSING THEIR SOUL through real estate investing!

1️⃣ WANT TO GET YOUR FIRST DEAL?

⁠⁠⁠https://www.firstdeal.com/⁠⁠⁠

📈 WANT TO SCALE YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🤝 CONNECT WITH ME ON INSTAGRAM

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👋 CONNECT WITH CAM ON INSTAGRAM

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/cc_pod_instagram⁠

🙌 CONNECT WITH KEVIN ON INSTAGRAM

https://www.instagram.com/campingkevinkcn/

📚 READ ONE OF MY BOOKS

⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/bb_pod_storefront⁠

🙏 SPONSORS

• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TurboTenant⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: Market your rental, screen tenants, and collect rent… all in one place! Use the code BRANDON10 to get 10% off upon sign-up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/tt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or check out all of their incredible FREE resources for landlords at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/toolbox_pod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BetterLife Tribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: If you're an existing real estate investor and you want to scale but you don't know how to supercharge your journey, just know... I've been there! And if that's you, check out my personal mastermind for EXISTING INVESTORS ONLY called the BetterLife Tribe at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🎥 DESCRIPTION

On this episode, I sat down with Kevin Thueson, a corporate dropout turned campground real estate investor. Kevin shares how he transitioned from the corporate world into investing in the great outdoors, the strategies that turned a single property into thousands in monthly cashflow, and why he thinks campgrounds are the diamonds in the rough of the real estate investing world. This conversation is full of real numbers, real risks, and the mindset shifts it takes to make the leap toward financial freedom.

Specifically, we talk about:

• what led him to sell his house and quit his job to go all-in

• building a vertically integrated team

• the mindset to bet on himself (even with a family)

• and so much more!

❌ DISCLAIMER

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/bb_pod_disclaimer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

15 Years of Real Estate Experience in 92 Minutes | Andrew Cushman (Ep 164) Aug 12, 2025

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🏠 JOIN MY FREE 5-DAY DEAL ANALYSIS CHALLENGE

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🧔‍♂️ WHO ARE WE?

Our names are Brandon Turner and Cam Cathcart! We teach people how to BUILD WEALTH WITHOUT LOSING THEIR SOUL through real estate investing!

1️⃣ WANT TO GET YOUR FIRST DEAL?

⁠⁠https://www.firstdeal.com/⁠⁠

📈 WANT TO SCALE YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO?

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.abetterlife.com/blt_pod_landing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🤝 CONNECT WITH ME ON INSTAGRAM

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👋 CONNECT WITH CAM ON INSTAGRAM

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🙌 CONNECT WITH ANDREW

https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcushmanvpa/

📚 READ ONE OF MY BOOKS

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On this episode, we sit down with Andrew Cushman to talk about what it really takes to thrive in real estate - especially multifamily - given today’s unique market. Andrew shares how he went from a chemical engineer making cold calls on a flip phone to owning thousands of units, and we unpack the mindset, systems, and long-term strategy that fueled that journey. We dive into lessons from the last cycle, how to build a portfolio when deals are scarce, why the next upcycle could be massive, and how hiring the right people and building partnerships changed everything for his business... and his life!

Specifically, we talk about:

• why multifamily prices could be down 20–30%, but long-term outlook is strong

• how he survived a nightmare first deal in Georgia

• how to build investor trust through honesty, not hype

• the importance of hiring early

• and so much more!

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From Heavy Metal Drummer to Real Estate Investor | Matt & Anni Weir (Ep 163) Aug 05, 2025

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Today, I sit down with Matt and Anni Weir to unpack their incredible journey - from almost going bankrupt on their first deal to building a thriving real estate business together. We talk about how they discovered their niche, the unique advantages it offers, and how they navigated the tough moments as a couple and business partners. If you’re curious about finding a real estate strategy with lower risk and high upside, their story is full of powerful lessons.Specifically, we talk about:• how to shift your identity and let go of the past to create real growth• how Matt and Anni bounced back from nearly going bankrupt on their first deal• the unique advantages of land over traditional real estate investing• navigating business and marriage through challenges, mindset shifts, and growth• and so much more!

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