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    The AI XR Podcast.

    Get the inside story on the biggest tech developments from founders, former executives, and industry veterans who built companies like OpenAI, Google DeepMind, Meta Reality Labs, Apple Vision Pro, Microsoft HoloLens, and Unity.

    Join Charlie Fink (Forbes), Ted Schilowitz, (Red Camera, Fox, Paramount Futurist) & Rony Abovitz, (founder Magic Leap).as they interview startup CEOs, ex-Google/Meta/Apple insiders, Hollywood directors, and AI researchers reshaping spatial computing.

    Every week we break down the latest tech news with our signature hot takes, then dive deep with a founder or industry leader. We cover artificial intelligence breakthroughs, virtual reality hardware, augmented reality applications, synthetic media tools, and how enterprises are adopting these technologies.

    We’re industry insiders who have the connections to get the biggest names on the show, but we’re not afraid to ask the tough questions about where big tech is heading. Our guests trust us because we’ve been in their shoes.

    Listen now to get ahead of the next wave of computing.


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    33 Years of AI XR Innovation & the GameStop of Smart Glasses. Paul Travers, CEO, Vuzix Sep 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Paul Travers, founder and CEO of Vuzix Corporation, returns to join hosts Charlie Fink, Ted Schilowitz, and Rony Abovitz for a masterclass in enterprise XR resilience and the long game of hardware innovation. As the architect behind the world's first consumer VR headset (the VFX1 in 1992), Travers has survived every boom and bust cycle in wearable technology for over three decades. Now publicly traded with 80,000 shareholders, Vuzix represents what Rony calls "the GameStop of XR"—a dramatically undervalued company ($200M market cap) that could become the consolidation hub for smaller XR startups while taking on tech giants with superior enterprise focus and manufacturing capabilities.


    The episode opens with the hosts' unfiltered critique of Meta's recent Connect announcements, where Rony argues that despite $100+ billion invested in Reality Labs, Meta's Ray-Ban display glasses represent minimal advancement over the original Google Glass—a "disappointing" return that small startups with minimal funding are already surpassing. This sets the stage for deeper discussions about Neon, the controversial app paying users $800/month to record conversations for AI training (which Rony compares to Neal Stephenson's "gargoyles" from Snow Crash), and Meta AI's new "Vibes" feed that separates AI-generated content from real-world posts to address deepfake concerns.



    Guest Highlights

    Travers pulls back the curtain on three decades of XR survival:

    • The "Lindy Effect" advantage—how Vuzix's longevity through multiple extinction events creates predictive value for continued success, like "alligators surviving when everything else didn't make it"
    • Enterprise-first strategy—why focusing on warehouse workers, Amazon distribution centers, and pharmaceutical operations (1,000+ systems deployed at Nadro) creates sustainable revenue streams versus consumer fashion battles
    • Manufacturing at scale—Vuzix's Rochester facility produces 1.5 million waveguides annually at 90%+ yield rates, enabling 10,000-unit weekly deliveries and potential silicon carbide waveguide production (the same exotic technology Meta claims costs $10,000 per pair in their Orion prototypes)
    • AI-agnostic platform approach—unlike Meta's closed ecosystem, Vuzix allows BMW, Amazon, and other enterprise clients to run their own AI models locally through NVIDIA Blueprint technology for IP protection
    • The "GameStop potential"—with smart money recognizing XR's AI-enabled inflection point, Travers envisions Vuzix becoming the acquisition vehicle for consolidating smaller XR companies, potentially reaching the $20+ billion valuation that experience and manufacturing capability warrant



    News Segment Highlights

    • Meta Connect critique reveals $100+ billion Reality Labs investment yielded minimal advancement over original Google Glass—disappointing monocular displays that startups with minimal funding already surpass
    • Neon app controversy pays users $800/month to record conversations for AI training, creating "voice gargoyles" that transform people into data input mechanism
    • Meta AI launches "Vibes" newsfeed separating AI-generated content from real-world posts to address deepfake and authenticity concerns across social platforms
    • ChatGPT privacy settings reminder that users can disable data sharing through hidden personalization and security menus to avoid training their AI replacements


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    Building Community, Creator IP & Viral Content with AI. Tricia Biggio, Invisible Universe Sep 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Tricia Biggio, CEO of Invisible Universe, joins hosts Charlie Fink and Ted Schilowitz for an illuminating deep-dive into how AI is revolutionizing content creation for social media. A veteran television producer who transitioned from traditional media to Snap, then launched her own company, Biggio reveals how her team built the world's first AI-powered content creation platform that reduces production costs by 95% per minute. From creating viral characters like Serena Williams' daughter's doll "Qai Qai" to launching Invisible Studio—a comprehensive AI toolset now used by eighth-graders to compete with major studios—Biggio demonstrates how authentic storytelling paired with rapid iteration is reshaping entertainment. Her company's brands have achieved billions of views across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, and Roblox, proving that social platforms can serve as testing grounds for intellectual property development rather than just marketing channels.



    Guest Highlights

    • How "minimum viable content" philosophy allows rapid testing and iteration with audiences rather than traditional seven-year development cycles
    • Why authenticity beats polish—her grittiest Snap show (Bhad Bhabie) generated hundreds of millions of views while polished influencer content flopped
    • The "Trojan horse" strategy of using social media as IP incubation rather than just distribution, turning audience feedback into real-time creative direction
    • Building Invisible Studio—an all-in-one AI platform for script writing, voice generation, image creation, and video production that enterprise partners and individual creators can access
    • How community-driven iteration replaces traditional media's "perfect then release" model, allowing brands to evolve in public and capture viral moments


    Tricia emphasizes that successful AI content creation requires storytellers building tools for storytellers, not just technologists creating features. Her platform approach addresses both content creation and distribution challenges, recognizing that in a world of infinite content, strong narrative voice becomes more critical than ever. The conversation explores whether rapid AI-enabled production maintains creative integrity or if audiences actually prefer speed and authenticity over traditional craftsmanship.



    News Segment Highlights

    • Meta's display-enabled AI glasses launch with mixed reviews—monocular display creates adjustment issues, neural wristband shows gesture control promise despite device failing twice in live demos
    • TikTok sale finalized to consortium including Larry Ellison, algorithm changes suspected to appease conservative concerns, potential government stake like Intel deal
    • Snap CEO "betting the house" on Spectacles AR glasses strategy—risky move requiring major behavior change may keep devices in "exotic Ferrari" market vs mainstream "Toyota" adoption
    • Nothing raises $200M for UK-based minimalist Android phone expansion
    • Nintendo releases Virtual Boy accessory in cardboard and premium plastic versions


    Subscribe for weekly insider perspectives from industry veterans who aren't afraid to challenge Big Tech. New episodes every Tuesday. Watch the full videos on YouTube.


    Thank you to our sponsors, Zappar and Viture!


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    The AI/XR Podcast September 15, 2025 Ft. Don Carson, Senior Art Director at Mighty Coconut Sep 15, 2025
    Show notes

    Charlie is back from the Venice Film Festival Immersive, where he also judged the Reply AI Film Festival. His standout was Blur, which he shared with Ted and Rony, though the Grand Prize went to The Clouds Are 2000 Meters Up. He also praised Doug Liman’s Asteroid on Samsung’s Moohan headset and noted growing work on Apple Vision Pro.


    In the news: Anthropic raised $13B at a $183B valuation, Replit secured $250M, Viture raised $100M, Mojo Vision closed $75M, and Higgsfield raised $50M. Rony highlighted Rivet’s Army award and Brainlab’s ML2 FDA clearance. Apple AirPods added live translation.


    Don Carson joined to discuss Walkabout Mini Golf and the upcoming Alice in Wonderland course, set for December. Carson, a former Disney Imagineer and now senior art director at Mighty Coconut, explained how each hole is designed as a vignette to guide players through the story. Amazon is preparing new smart glasses, and TwinMind is testing lifelogging concepts.


    Thank you to our sponsor, Zappar!


    Don't forget to like, share, and follow for more! Follow us on all socials @TheAIXRPodcast


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    The AI/XR Podcast Sept 9th, 2025 ft. Jason Zada and Monica Monique of Secret Level Sep 09, 2025
    Show notes

    On this week’s AIXR podcast, Ted Schilowitz and Rony Abovitz sit down with Jason Zada and Monica Monique of Secret Level, an AI-native production studio behind projects for Coca-Cola, Mercedes, and Will.i.am. The conversation explores the rapid changes in technology and storytelling, from Jason’s TED Talk experiment about a beaver and a magic sock, to the future of production where small creative teams can achieve what once took hundreds. Along the way, they cover Google’s antitrust case, Apple’s next iPhone event, Meta’s new headset prototypes, and how story and human taste remain central even as AI reshapes content creation.


    Thank you to our sponsor, Zappar!


    Don't forget to like, share, and follow for more! Follow us on all socials @TheAIXRPodcast


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    SPECIAL EPISODE - The AI/XR Podcast August 26th, 2025 ft. Rokid Glasses Dev and Launch Team Sep 05, 2025
    Show notes

    Charlie Fink hosts a special episode of the AIXR podcast with Rokid and CaringKind to discuss the launch of Rokid Glass, lightweight AI smart glasses. The conversation centers on how the device supports people with vision loss, dementia, and other disabilities through features like navigation, memory support, and safety monitoring, while also addressing privacy safeguards. Rokid announced a successful Kickstarter launch ($300k+ day one) and plans to expand use in healthcare and underserved communities.


    Thank you to our sponsor, Zappar!


    Don't forget to like, share, and follow for more! Follow us on all socials @TheAIXRPodcast


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    SPECIAL EPISODE - From the Venice Film Festival August 30th, 2025 ft. Doug Liman and the 30 Ninjas Team Sep 01, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, recorded Friday, August 30, at the Venice Film Festival, Charlie Fink talks with director Doug Liman and the 30 Ninjas team, Juliana Tatlock and Jed Weintraub, about Asteroid, their new immersive XR film. The conversation covers the creative and technical process behind putting audiences inside a Hollywood movie, including the use of Google’s high-end digital human capture, Unreal Engine, and the Android XR platform with Gemini AI. Liman explains how the project evolved from a feature script into a 12-minute interactive experience. The team reflects on nearly a decade of experimenting with immersive technologies, from early VR series like Invisible to today’s high-fidelity headsets.


    Thank you to our sponsor, Zappar!

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    The AI/XR Podcast August 22nd, 2025 ft. Devon Eriksen, Author of Theft of Fire: Orbital Space #1 Aug 22, 2025
    Show notes

    This week on The AI/XR Podcast, Charlie Fink, Ted Schilowitz, and Rony Abovitz start with the latest news but quickly veer into bigger questions about where technology, storytelling, and human behavior collide. What begins as a conversation about tools and platforms spirals—in a good way—into riffs on consciousness, creativity, and what it means to live in a mediated world. It’s part debate, part improv, and occasionally a comedy of interruptions. Devon Erikson, author of the best-selling sci-fi novel "Theft of Fire" joins the discussion, adding a novelist’s perspective. The third week in August isn't a big news week, but it made room for a group of futurists who don't all agree on the present or the future of our tech-driven society.


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    The AI/XR Podcast August 15th, 2025 ft. Jess Loren, CEO at Global Objects Aug 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Jess Loren, CEO of Global Objects, joins Charlie, Ted, and Rony to talk about the company’s work creating photoreal digital twins for film, television, games, and beyond. She explains how her team scans everything from bugs to stadiums using LiDAR, photogrammetry, drones, and Gaussian splats, and why she’s building a “clean data” archive of the physical world. The conversation ranges from Hollywood’s shifting economics to the role of tech giants, the future of synthetic media, and how 3D assets could train robots and preserve cultural history.

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    The AI/XR Podcast August 8th, 2025 ft. Brent Bushnell, Co-Founder and CBO of DreamPark Immersive Aug 08, 2025
    Show notes

    On this episode of the AI/XR Podcast, Charlie Fink, Ted Schilowitz, and Rony Abovitz welcome Brent Bushnell, co-founder of DreamPark, for an energizing conversation about the future of mixed reality entertainment. Brent shares how DreamPark turns public spaces into interactive theme parks using Meta Quest 3 headsets, enabling immersive gameplay on city streets, at malls, and even music festivals. The hosts reflect on the legacy of Magic Leap, the overlooked brilliance of the Magic Leap game Dr. Grordbort's Invaders, made exclusively for Magic Leap by New Zealand's WETA studio. Rony compares Brent’s vision to Walt Disney, and the brainstorm an entire Dream Park business plan, discussing everything from retrofitting dead malls to launching pop-ups at Buc-ee’s and Walmart. Along the way, they discuss the shortcomings of Apple Vision Pro, Magic Leap’s lost potential, and the promise of scalable location-based XR. Equal parts XR therapy session and founder love-fest, this episode captures what happens when tech dreamers like Brent Bushnell find a working prototype.


    Thank you to our sponsor, Zappar!


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    The AI/XR Podcast August 1st, 2025 ft. Greg Shove, CEO of Section Aug 02, 2025
    Show notes

    On this episode, Charlie, Ted, and Rony are joined by longtime tech entrepreneur Greg Shove, who shares lessons from a career spanning seven startups and multiple pivots—including a missed opportunity to buy Amazon in 1996. Now CEO of Section, Shove has repositioned the company from an online business school to an enterprise AI transformation consultancy. He discusses the shift from pandemic-era digital learning to workforce upskilling for companies deploying large language models. The conversation covers AI’s “cut and create” phases, the moral imperative to retrain displaced workers, and the risk of becoming an AI “passenger” rather than a “driver.” Shove warns of cognitive offloading and the commodification of knowledge work, suggesting that skilled trades may prove more resilient in the age of automation. The hosts reflect on AI’s Orwellian dynamics and the widening education gap in America.


    Thank you to our sponsor, Zappar!

    Don't forget to like, share, and follow for more! Follow us on all socials @TheAIXRPodcast

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