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Chat Was Us | Siblings Jun 02, 2026

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This week on That Was Us, we’re trying something a little different. Inspired by the heart of This Is Us and where we currently are in the rewatch with Kevin and Randall’s reconciliation, the hosts kick off a brand new “Group Chat” format centered around one big theme: siblings! From birth order and family roles to rivalry, resentment, and deep love, Mandy, Sterling, and Chris open up about their own sibling dynamics and the ways those relationships continue to shape who they are today.

In this episode, the hosts chat about:

* Their own sibling dynamics, age gaps, and the roles they played growing up

* How birth order can shape personality, ambition, and family identity

* Why siblings raised in the same household often feel like they had completely different parents

* The ways Kevin, Kate, and Randall mirror real-life sibling dynamics and coping mechanisms

* How trauma and major life events can permanently shape sibling relationships

* Caring for aging parents and how siblings divide emotional and logistical responsibilities

* Why the sibling who moves away often experiences family differently

* The lasting impact of family roles well into adulthood

* Whether siblings naturally grow closer with age—or drift apart

* “Hot takes” about siblings, including parent favorites, youngest-child privilege, and whether siblings are built-in best friends or built-in enemies

* The value of staying connected to family, even when relationships are complicated

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show: The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.

Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.

Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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Kevin & Randall Reconcile | "Brotherly Love" (513) May 26, 2026

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This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 13: “Brotherly Love.” As Kevin travels to Philadelphia to finally confront the unresolved tension between himself and Randall, the episode explores race, identity, jealousy, and the complicated realities of growing up as brothers who experienced the same childhood very differently.

In this episode, the hosts chat about:

* The meaning behind Philadelphia being called the “City of Brotherly Love”

* What real apologies and amends actually look like

* Thoughtlessness vs. overt racism and how those conversations show up in everyday life

* Choreographing fights, drunk acting, and Milo’s performance as intoxicated Jack

* Personal stories about early adulthood struggles, cheap meals, and figuring life out in your twenties

They also break down the episode, including:

* Young Randall imagining his “ghost kingdom” parents

* Jack taking Kevin and Randall to a taping of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood

* Kevin’s resentment over Randall receiving “special treatment” as a child

* Kevin and Randall’s drunken spring break trip and explosive cab fight in college

* Randall explaining the emotional complexity of growing up Black in a white family

* Their argument about gratitude, adoption, and feeling like an outsider in your own home

* Kevin finally acknowledging his jealousy and Randall’s lived experience as a Black man

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual!" That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:

The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.

Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday. ------------------------- Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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Jack's Proposal to Rebecca| "Both Things Can Be True" (512) May 19, 2026

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This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 12: “Both Things Can Be True.” As Kevin and Madison’s wedding approaches, the episode explores commitment, family expectations, and the complicated ways people learn to communicate with the ones they love. From Jack’s proposal plans for Rebecca in the past, to Kevin navigating unresolved tension with Randall in the present, the episode asks what it really means to show up for the people you care about.

In this episode, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan chat about:

* Asking for a partner’s parents’ blessing and whether that tradition still feels meaningful today

* Parenting dynamics and the emotional complexity of stay-at-home parenting

* The pressure parents can unknowingly place on their children

* Digital de-aging, wigs, and the behind-the-scenes magic

* Candy Corn: love or hate?

They also break down the episode, including:

* Miguel helping Jack rehearse his proposal to Rebecca

* Miguel defending Jack to Rebecca’s father and proving just how loyal of a friend he is

* Kevin struggling to ask Randall to be his best man after their explosive fight

* Nicky and Miguel clashing and feeling “replaced” by Jack’s death

* Madison opening up about what kind of wedding she actually wants

* Toby struggling with stay-at-home parenting while Kate starts her new job

* Beth navigating Tess and Alex’s relationship while trying to support Tess without judgment

* Randall attending a transracial adoptee support group

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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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Eris Baker and Us | Tess Pearson May 12, 2026

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This week on That Was Us, we’re so beyond excited to be joined in studio by actor Eris Baker, who grew up playing Tess Pearson on This Is Us! Eris reflects on her journey from child actor to USC film production student, opening up about balancing school and set life, stepping into storytelling behind the camera, and how playing Tess shaped both her personal life and creative voice.

In this episode, Eris chats about:

* Booking This Is Us at just 10 years old after filming a Target commercial

* Growing up on set alongside the cast and forming lifelong bonds with the Black Pearson family

* Navigating school while working and missing out on a traditional high school experience

* Choosing USC’s film production track and her dream of becoming a creative producer and director

* Writing and directing her own short films and the emotional response one of them got from Sterling

* Working as a PA on Dan Fogelman’s series Paradise and hustling for internships at production companies

* Saying yes to Tess’s coming-out storyline at age 12

* Cutting her hair for the storyline and how it impacted her confidence entering high school

* Preparing emotionally for Tess’s coming-out scene with support from Sterling, Susan Kelechi Watson, Ken Olin, and Dan Fogelman

* Her close friendship with Lyric Ross and Faith Herman both on and off screen

* Where she imagines Tess, Deja, and Annie would be today

* Why she hopes to one day run her own production company

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual!" That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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Uncle Nicky Meets The Twins | "One Small Step" (511) May 05, 2026

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This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 11: “One Small Step.” Centered on Uncle Nicky’s journey to meet Kevin and Madison’s twins, the episode explores how the smallest steps can lead to the biggest changes—and how the stories we tell ourselves can shape an entire lifetime.

In this episode, the hosts chat about:

* Media saturation, smartphones, and the idea of going back to a simpler “brick” device

* The importance of setting intentional boundaries with technology—for yourself and your kids

* How limiting choices can actually lead to more clarity and happiness

* Challenging your own “core belief” stories and the narratives that hold you back

* The difference between routine and rut—and how to break out of it

* The loss of shared cultural moments and what brings people together today

They also break down the episode, including:

* Nicky’s emotional journey from isolation to connection

* His first flight since Vietnam and what it represents

* Cassidy helping Nicky prepare for the trip—and confront his fears

* Nicky’s arrival in California and his misunderstanding about the twins’ baptism

* Flashbacks to his relationship with Sally and the life he almost chose

* The moon landing as a symbol of hope, possibility, and connection

* His attempt to reconnect with Jack after the war and why he ultimately walks away

* Kevin and Madison welcoming Nicky into their home

* Nicky’s powerful monologue to the twins and the meaning behind “you two are my moon”

* The emotional final moment with Kevin discovering Nicky in the nursery

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Jennifer Morrison and Us | Cassidy Sharp Apr 28, 2026

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This week on That Was Us, we’re thrilled to be joined in studio by actor and director Jennifer Morrison, who brought Cassidy to life on This Is Us. Jennifer reflects on her journey from acting to directing, the challenges of transitioning from fantasy to grounded drama, and how This Is Us unexpectedly changed her life in a very real way.

In this episode, Jennifer chats about:

* Playing Cassidy across Seasons 4–6 and navigating her place within the Pearson family

* The love quadrangle between Cassidy, Kevin, Zoe, and Nicky

* Transitioning from Once Upon a Time to the grounded realism of This Is Us

* Why she still had to audition for the role—and what that experience taught her

* Her evolution from actor to director and why she feels she has more to contribute behind the camera

* The intensity of shooting 100 scenes in 12 days

* The challenges of proving herself as a director after years of acting

* Her early experiences directing short films and her first feature, which sold to Netflix

* Her time on House and the demanding pace of network television

* Growing up in a marching band–focused household and how it shaped her work ethic

* The surreal story of buying Dan Fogelman’s house after feeling an unexpected connection to it

* What makes great writing so impactful for actors and why This Is Us scripts felt like a gift.

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual!" That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. -------------------------

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🍋 About the Show:

The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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Parenting Woes | "I've Got This" (510) Apr 21, 2026

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This week on That Was Us, we’re chatting about This Is Us Season 5, Episode 10: “I’ve Got This.” This episode explores the pressures of pride, money, and what it really means to provide for your family.

In this episode, the hosts chat about:

* Survival vs. dreams and how priorities shift in different seasons of life

* Lessons they learned from their time on set

* Which This Is Us cast member couldn’t resist eating the prop food

* Navigating finances, including making more money than your spouse

* Deciding where to spend the holidays as your family grows They also break down the episode, including:

* Kevin and Madison hosting Kate and Toby for a sushi dinner that unravels

* Toby secretly losing his job

* Kate thanking Rebecca for a stable childhood

* Flashbacks of Jack chasing a promotion and Rebecca stepping in to take over finances

* Randall and Beth navigating family dynamics as Carol extends her stay

* Tess opening up about dating Alex and Malik seeking advice about co-parenting

* Beth and Carol’s emotional reconciliation

* Nicky’s surprise arrival in Los Angeles" That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday. -------------------------

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Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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New Parents | "The Ride" with Director Jon Huertas (509) Apr 14, 2026

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 9: “The Ride.” As new parents bring their babies home, the episode explores the fears, hopes, and expectations that come with the start of a new chapter for every Pearson family. Across timelines, it’s a reminder that the ride home is where everything begins. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Sharing their own stressful ride-home and early parenting experiences

* The emotional chaos of bringing newborns home across timelines

* Jack and Rebecca’s trip home with the triplets

* Jack’s anxiety about becoming his father, including the gas station confrontation and his admitted drink

* Kevin and Madison navigating paparazzi and the pressure of new parenthood

* Kevin’s dream conversation with Jack and his spur-of-the-moment proposal

* Kate and Toby bringing home Hailey and Ellie backing out of the open adoption arrangement

* Toby revealing that he’s been fired

* Future Deja arriving at Randall’s home pregnant and the show’s seamless casting continuity Plus, Jon Huertas joins the podcast to talk about: * Directing “The Ride” during COVID

* His transition from actor to director

* What he finds most fulfilling about directing

* The preparation that set him up for success behind the camera

* Fun memories directing Mandy Moore, Chris Sullivan, and Sterling K. Brown That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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The Next Generation of Pearsons | "In The Room" with Writer Vera Herbert (508) Apr 07, 2026

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 8: “In The Room.”

In this episode recap:

* Randall and Beth FaceTime Madison while waiting for updates on Kevin

* Kevin arrives at the hospital and tells Madison his family is his priority

* Kate and Toby navigate the emotional realities of adoption and their relationship with Ellie, the birth mother

* Rebecca and Miguel open up about life after Jack’s death

* Esther and Nasir’s story reveals the invention of the Discrete Cosine Transform, the technology behind video calls like FaceTime

Plus, Mandy Moore, Chris Sullivan, and Sterling K. Brown discuss:

* Working with guest stars like Michael O’Neill

* The Mandy moment that sent Chris into a laughing fit

* Why partner vacations without kids are so important

And writer Vera Herbert joins to talk about:

* Her unconventional path into Hollywood

* Writers’ room culture

* Writing personal grief into This Is Us

* The importance of thoughtful adoption representation

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Josh Einsohn and Us | Casting Director Mar 31, 2026

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This week on That Was Us, we’re joined by one of the most pivotal people behind This Is Us: casting director Josh Einsohn. Josh reflects on 25 years in casting and shares how he got his start in production, what led him to feel passionate about casting, and how This Is Us ultimately changed his life forever. In this episode, Josh chats about: * His 25-year journey in casting and how he got his start * The role Tommy Lee Jones played early in his career * Working on The Polar Express and The West Wing * Partnering with Tiffany Little Canfield to cast This Is Us * Bringing Jon Huertas onto the show * The pressure of casting multiple ages of the same characters * The urgent recasting of the teen Big Three * How auditions changed after COVID * Casting Griffin Dunne as Nicky * Casting Jennifer Morrison as Cassidy * His advice for actors navigating the industry * How This Is Us influenced his decision to adopt his daughter, Molly" That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors:

------------------------- 🍋 About the Show: The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

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00:00 Intro 00:02:22 Interview 01:10:13 Outro Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley Video Editor: Todd Hughlett Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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