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#82 Bye Bye Boobies — The Why, The How, and What No One Tells You About Breast Reduction Surgery Jun 17, 2025

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Okay, so… I got my boobs done. Not implants. I got a breast reduction—and in this episode, I’m walking you through everything: the emotional backstory, the wild insurance hurdles, the drains (ugh), the Hooters farewell tour, and why I would do it again in a heartbeat.

From being the first girl in fourth grade told to wear a bra to breastfeeding three kids, this has been a long time coming. I share what pushed me to finally do it, how I chose my surgeon, and all the things no one really preps you for when it comes to healing and reclaiming your body.

We talk about:

Growing up with big boobs and feeling hyper-visible from a young age
Why this felt like a personal and physical reclamation—not just a cosmetic decision
The continued struggles with health insurance coverage
How painful and weirdly humbling recovery really is (have you ever tried showering without raising your arms?!)
Shower hacks, pain meds, body image shifts, and parenting while healing
Answering your DMs about cost, implants vs. reductions, and explaining it all to your kids
Why running out of Hooters in slow motion should honestly be an Oscar-nominated short film (someone call Pamela Anderson and ask her how she survived Baywatch beach runs!)

This episode is for the girls who’ve ever wanted to feel more at home in their body—and the ones Googling “can you sleep without a bra?” because same.

👀 MENTIONED:

Dr. Victoria Suh in Fairfax, VA https://www.victoriacosmeticsurgery.com/
My viral Hooters farewell video https://www.instagram.com/p/DGLgaEmJMzZ/
Post-op items I wish I’d known about before surgery https://amzn.to/442OPh6

💬 If you’re thinking about a reduction…

You don’t owe anyone an explanation. Not the internet, not your cousin, not some guy named Henry from Norfolk. 🙃 But if you want the story, this is mine—and I hope it helps you feel more prepared, informed, and supported (pun intended).

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Music: Far Eye House

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#81 From Turntables to Toddler Snacks: How Va$htie Does It All Without Losing Herself Jun 10, 2025

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From designing Jordans and DJing for Prince to launching a day party for parents, Downtown’s Sweetheart Va$htie Kola has done it all—on her own terms. In this episode, Lauren and Va$htie get real about what happens when that girl becomes that mom: how your body, identity, friendships, and creative rhythms all shift… and how you build something entirely new from the mess. There's birth story realness, co-sleeping confessions, and a cameo from a baby boom–era applesauce empire. Yes, really.

In this episode, we talk about:

Va$htie’s origin story as a downtown NYC icon—and her shift into motherhood
Being the first woman to design a Jordan sneaker
How motherhood shattered (and rebuilt) her sense of identity
Why she created “A Parently Kidding” and what it means to make space for joy as a parent
Losing friendships, finding your mom village, and setting new boundaries online
Home birth plans vs. hospital reality: the unfiltered truth
Gentle parenting, big feelings, and TikTok therapy

Guest:

🎧 Va$htie Kola — Director, designer, DJ, and now… co-sleeper and applesauce visionary.

Follow her at @vashtie on Instagram or catch her spinning IRL at A Parently Kidding.

Mentioned:

A Parently Kidding day party for kids + grownups
Baby Boom (1987 movie we’re now fully obsessed with)
The Business of Being Born (documentary)
The mango cutting TikTok that changed Va$htie’s life

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Editing: Nomadic Orca

Music: Far Eye House

Photo: Birch Thomas

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#80 Singing Through the Hard Stuff: Motherhood, Magic, and Midnights with Lauren Paley May 27, 2025

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What happens when a viral singer known for hauntingly beautiful Disney ballads shares her unfiltered motherhood journey? You get this gem of an episode. Lauren Berty sits down IRL in Nashville with internet-sensation-turned-mama Lauren Paley—aka the Stairwell Siren—for a tender, hilarious, and deeply validating convo on motherhood, identity, and the magic of Disney cruises. From viral fame to postpartum anxiety, we cover it all (and yes—there’s singing at the end).

In this episode, we talk about:

How Lauren’s viral stairwell videos turned into a full-blown creative career
The motherhood magic of their Disney cruise meet-cute
Why singing in front of 15 million people is less scary than doing karaoke
Postpartum anxiety, night-time dread, and the myth of “good sleepers”
Pumping stress, milk freezers, and learning to let go
What it looks like to parent with intuition (not the internet)
Social media perfection vs real-life motherhood mess
How Lauren’s birth unfolded—including the Niagara Falls moment 😳

Guest:

✨ Lauren Paley – Vocalist, viral content creator, and mama to sweet Piper. You’ve probably seen her singing in stairwells, garages, and your For You page.

Follow her on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/laurenpaley and TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@laurenpaley.

Mentioned in this episode:

Disney Creator Celebration Cruise
The Oura ring that snitches on your sleep deprivation https://amzn.to/4mvaTZ0

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Production: Berty Enterprises

Editing: Nomadic Orca https://www.nomadicorca.com/

Music: Far Eye House

Photo: Birch Thomas

Design: Erin Fox Creative

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#79 Healing After Twins, Honoring Your Body, and Redefining Motherhood with Kristin McGee May 20, 2025

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If you’ve ever whispered “my body is not my own” after motherhood—or stared at your postpartum belly wondering what happened to your core—this one’s for you.

In this week’s episode, I’m joined by twin mama, yoga and Pilates instructor, and all-around calming presence Kristin McGee. We talk about everything from healing diastasis recti (yep, that dreaded core separation) to parenting solo, starting over after divorce, and how to actually make time for yourself when everything feels like “too much.”

We get into:

Becoming a mom later in life and navigating IVF, pregnancy in your 40s, and the “geriatric” label 🙄
The honest truth about twin birth (Kristin went to 39.5 weeks!) and recovering from both vaginal birth and a C-section
Why pelvic floor therapy should be standard postpartum care
Tips for managing life as a single parent (and finding a new path after a dream job ends)
Her new book Somatic Exercises for Dummies—and how reconnecting with your body is emotional and physical
Breathwork and tiny rituals that actually help in moments of mom-overwhelm

Kristin is the real deal—so grounded, so generous, and deeply honest about the beauty and the burnout that comes with this season of life. Whether you’re healing your core, healing your heart, or just figuring out how to hold everything you're carrying, this episode is like a deep exhale.

🛠️ Resources + Mentions:

Diastasis recti healing tips and KT tape (!!)
5-4-3-2-1 grounding technique for anxiety
Breathwork for moms: box breathing + peace fingers
Kristin’s new book: Somatic Exercises for Dummies

@kristinmcgee on IG and Substack (linked below)
https://www.kristinmcgee.com/
https://kristinmcgee.substack.com/

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Editing: Nomadic Orca https://www.nomadicorca.com/

Music: Far Eye House

Photo: Birch Thomas

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#78 Parenting by Design — Human Design, Energy Types, and Doing Less to Feel More with Erin Claire Jones May 13, 2025

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What if your parenting style, work habits, and even your sleep struggles could all be explained by your energy type?

In this episode, Human Design expert Erin Claire Jones is back—this time to talk about her new book (How Do You Choose), the realities of parenting with young kids while launching creative work, and how understanding Human Design has shifted the way she parents, partners, and paces herself.

We cover:

What Human Design looks like in real life—with babies, back-to-back meetings, and someone always needing a snack

Why being “lit up” matters more than being productive (especially for Manifesting Generators)

How rest, space, and honoring your energy type actually makes you a better parent

What it’s like raising kids with four different energy types in one household

Ways to support your kids and yourself using Human Design—without adding more to your plate

Plus: Erin breaks down all five Human Design types—Manifesting Generator, Generator, Projector, Manifestor, and Reflector—and shares stories, myths, and practical insights to help you better understand yourself and your family.

✨ Whether you’re deep in toddler mode, navigating marriage after babies, or simply trying to get a decent night’s sleep, this episode will help you feel more grounded, more aware of your patterns, and more compassionate with your own capacity.

📚 Erin’s New Book

How Do You Choose: A Human Design Guide to What’s Best for You in Work, Love, and Life out TODAY (May 13)!

Look up YOUR human design: https://humandesignblueprint.com (use the code TWINMAMA for a discount on your full guide and other courses)

🧠 Try This:

Notice how you feel at the end of your day. Are you “delightfully spent” or restlessly drained? Erin shares how this simple check-in can tell you a lot about whether you're aligned with your energy type—or headed for burnout.

👯‍♀️ Stay connected:

Follow Erin at @erinclairejones

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Production: Berty Enterprises

Editing: Nomadic Orca https://www.nomadicorca.com/

Music: Far Eye House

Photo: Birch Thomas

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#77 Happy Mother’s Day from That Twin Mama and Ryan: What We Wish We Knew Before Becoming Parents May 06, 2025

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In this special Mother's Day episode, I’m joined by my husband Ryan for a real and unfiltered conversation about parenting—what we expected, what caught us off guard, and how our relationship has changed over time. From toddler meltdowns to teenage moods to the mental load of planning dinner every night, we’re covering the parts of parenting that don’t always get talked about.

We get into:

What’s shifted in our parenting roles lately (and how we’re managing it)
The surprising parts of motherhood and how it reshaped my identity
Why I used to sit in the car after daycare drop-off and now Ryan does too
How the way your partner shows up affects the kind of parent you get to be
What we’ve learned about parenting teens vs. toddlers (spoiler: both are wild)
Our honest take on twin life—and how it’s different than we thought
Supporting aging parents while raising young kids

Plus, I read some of your thoughtful and funny messages about what you wish you knew before becoming a mom—and we reflect on the comments that hit home the most.

✨ Whether you’re in newborn fog, school drop-off mode, or parenting across stages like we are, I hope this conversation helps you feel a little more seen and a little less alone.

Links:

Postnatal care across cultures: https://www.themindfulbirthgroup.com/parents/blog/postnatal-rituals-from-around-the-world/

That Twin Mama Podcast: Multiracial Adoption with the Schoeller Family https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_TDuAkYPYQ

📣 If this episode resonated, share it with a friend or leave a quick review. It helps us keep growing this space for honest convos about parenting and identity.

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Production: Berty Enterprises

Editing: Ryan Berty

Music: Far Eye House

Photo: Birch Thomas

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#76 Finding Your Voice: A Conversation on Self-Advocacy, Ambition, and Parenting with Author TianEn Stephenson Apr 29, 2025

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What happens when you're born with a mirror—and spend your life learning how to be your own person? In this episode, TianEn Stephenson—author, track star, twin sister, and proud boy mom of four—talks about ambition, identity, motherhood, and the real work of self-advocacy.

We get into everything from her journey as an athlete, a mom, and now an author; plus she shares the heart behind her book Closed Mouths Don’t Get Fed—and why speaking up for what you want might be the most powerful thing you do this year.

If you're learning how to be "your own you"—in motherhood, in work, or just in life—you’re gonna feel seen in this one.

💛👉 Connect with TianEn:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asktianen/
Check out her book: Closed Mouths Don’t Get Fed https://www.tianenstephenson.com/book

If this episode sparked something for you, share it with a fellow mama, twin parent, or ambitious woman in your life. Tag me @thattwinmamapodcast so we can lift each other up. 💬

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#75 Red Dye, Raw Milk, & Nutrition Myths: What Moms Deserve to Know with Dr. Jessica Knurick Apr 22, 2025

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This one’s for the mom who saw one too many “you’re poisoning your kids” videos and panicked. In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Jessica Knurick—PhD in Nutrition Science and certified dietitian—to talk about the wellness misinformation targeting moms, especially during pregnancy and postpartum.

We unpack:

What “ultra-processed” actually means (spoiler: it’s not just junk food)
Seed oils, food dyes, and the scary headlines
Why formulas contain what they do—and what’s true about high fructose corn syrup
The difference between correlation and causation (and the shark attack example that changed my brain)
How to spot fear-mongering and bad science online

And we get honest about why moms are especially vulnerable to fear-based marketing—and how to protect our peace while still caring deeply.

“Your baby isn’t being poisoned. You’re just being marketed to.” — Dr. Jessica Knurick

🎧 Tune in now for science-backed clarity, myth-busting moments, and the reminder every mom needs: you’re doing better than the algorithm wants you to believe.

👉 Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review if this episode gives you a little exhale—we’re building a softer, smarter internet for moms like you.

📚 Follow Dr. Knurick @dr.jessicaknurick

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Production: Berty Enterprises

Editing: Nomadic Orca https://www.nomadicorca.com/

Music: Far Eye House

Photo: Birch Thomas

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#74 Swapcast with Bola Sokunbi of The Clever Girls Know — Starting Out as a Social Media Influencer: Tips For Monetizing and What Lauren Wishes She Knew Apr 15, 2025

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Want to get paid for being yourself online—but not lose yourself in the process? This one’s for you.

In this swapcast episode, Lauren shares her guest appearance on The Clever Girls Know Podcast with Bola Sokunbi—founder of Clever Girl Finance and all-around financial fairy godmother. They dive into the real work behind content creation, motherhood, and making a sustainable living online. From YouTube monetization to brand deals that don’t feel icky, this conversation pulls back the curtain on the business of influence—and how Lauren built a brand rooted in joy, not just metrics.

What You’ll Hear:

How Lauren went from “just posting” to full-time content creator
Lauren’s mindset shift around money, creativity, and boundaries
The power of saying no to off-brand offers
Why starting small—and starting real—always wins

“Resilience isn’t just bouncing back—it’s becoming someone new.” – Lauren

Follow Bola @clevergirlfinance and check out her award-winning platform Clever Girl Finance for more on budgeting, wealth building, and financial freedom.

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Credits:

Production: Berty Enterprises + Clever Girls Know Podcast

Editing: 1 Life/Studio Alliance

Music: Far Eye House

Photo: Birch Thomas

Design: Erin Fox Creative

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#73 Jon Fogel on Punishment-Free Parenting: Neuroscience-Backed Strategies for Raising Toddlers and Teenagers into Successful Adults Apr 08, 2025

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Ever feel like you’re constantly putting out fires with your kids—whether it’s toddler tantrums or teen attitude? What if you could ditch the punishments and still raise emotionally intelligent, successful humans?

In this episode of That Twin Mama Podcast, host Lauren Berty sits down with parenting researcher Jon Fogel to explore a game-changing approach to discipline: punishment-free parenting backed by neuroscience.

Jon shares his personal journey into parenting research and how his academic background and lived experiences shaped his philosophy. He breaks down how understanding your child’s brain can lead to more effective and compassionate strategies—whether you're navigating meltdowns with toddlers or pushing boundaries with teens.

From practical tools for emotional regulation to ways of fostering collaboration and connection, this conversation is packed with transformative ideas to help you parent with less stress and more intention.

“The goal isn’t to control our kids—it’s to help them learn to control themselves.” — Jon Fogel

🎧 Tune in now for science-backed strategies, relatable real-talk, and the mindset shift every parent needs.

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