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    That Real Blind Tech Show

    A podcast Hosted by Brian Fischler, Ed Plumacher, and Allison Meloy discussing the good and bad of assistive technology for the low vision and totally blind. Key topics include Apple’s VoiceOver, Amazon’s VoiceView, Windows Narrator, Freedom Scientific Jaws, Described Video, and basically any product that talks to you. We are not NPR, as we are an entertainment technology show.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Episode 91 - Trendsetters, A Conversation with PodFather Rodney Edgar from Tech Access Weekly Jul 11, 2022
    Show notes

    Brian and Ed welcome in Rodney Edgar to the That Real Blind Tech show lair for another Trendsetters episode.

    Rodney began podcasting back in 2009 with the show Tech Access Weekly. We find out how Rodney and his wife Erin started the show, what gave them the idea for the podcast, and what tools they were using back then to produce the podcast. Rodney walks us through his workflow of putting the show together.

    That's right, Brian let it slip out, as Blindtechshow.com will be launching some time this week, so check back soon. And as we launch our website for our show, we find out what caused the demise of Tech Access Weekly.

    We discuss the fun of going to the ATM when you are blind as Rodney used to work in banking and ATM coding.

    Rodney then explains to us how he ended up on the Podcast High Contrast. Rodney walks us through reviewing products and software and being brutally honest about it all to their listeners.

    We find out how Rodney got in to a career in coding and web design. He shares with us some of the biggest accessibility design issues facing developers.

    We discuss how podcasting has evolved, and how advertising is ruining a lot of podcasts.

    Rodney shares his advice for those low vision and blind people wanting to get in to a career in web development.

    You can keep up with Rodney on Twitter.

    And it's a special with Rodney Edgar Watcha Streaming, Watcha Reading.

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


    Episode 90 - Review of the Echo Frames and Big Announcements From Aira Jul 04, 2022
    Show notes

    It's an all new That Real Blind Tech Show product unveiling, as Brian could not wait to get in to the That Real Blind Tech show lair to discuss his new Echo Frames with you.

    Brian walks you through the design of the glasses, what the buttons on the glasses do, and how the touch pad works. He talks about the differences between the Bose Frames and Echo Frames so you can make a good decision about which pair of Smart Glasses may be right for you.

    Jeanine Stanley then pops in from Aira and That Real Blind Tech show. Jeanine is here to share some very exciting announcements coming out of Aira over the next few days and at this year's NFB and ACB Conferences.

    To get in on the Aira Desktop beta please visit Aira here.

    Aira is at this year's NFB and ACB Conferences so you can learn more about everything going on at Aira at the conferences or just listen to this entire episode for the other very exciting announcements coming out from Aira.

    Then it's a brief What's Pissing Off Brian Now.

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


    Episode 89 - Singaporian Echo Urns Jun 26, 2022
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    It's an all new That Real Blind Tech Show with the gang in their separate lairs. And we start talking about how someone wants to copy That Real Blind Tech show and build their own lair.

    China claims it has discovered aliens, but then quickly deletes the report. How did a man in Japan lose his entire town's digital information?

    The A Lady may soon be able to mimic the voice of a deceased relative. Creepy or cool? Instagram is testing out a new tool that will be able to tell your age by scanning your face. Again, creepy or cool?

    It has been awhile since the three of us recorded last, and one of us, has a new M1 Mac Book Pro. Who will never guess who, and you will not want to miss the story behind the purchase, as it was not bought at your every day retailer. Brian then tells his adventure with his Air Pod Pros and what he learned at the Apple Store that you may be able to try and do if your Air Pod Pros are making funky noises. Rumors be running wild that the Air Pod Pro 2's could have heart monitoring and work as hearing aids.

    Allison is the brave one as she is running both the iOS and Mac betas. Even though the betas are in the very early stages we figured we would find out what she likes so far besides the Eloquence voices. This some how leads to a debate about the Singaporean English voice and what the heck language do people speak in Singapore if there is no language called Singaporean?

    The fun continues with a little more smack talk with the guys and gal over at Blind Guy Talks Tech.

    In iOS 16, you will now be able to mark junk text messages as spam. Personalized Spatial Audio is coming to Air Pod Pros, but we have no clue what this means or actually will be, but Apple claims it is a thing. Here's a list of what features will not be coming to Intel Macs and what features may not be ready when OS Ventura is released in the fall.

    Prime Day 2022 will be July 12 and 13, but the sales have already begun, and Brian and Allison already jumped on the massive sale for the Echo Frames.

    CNN was baffled that there are PodFasters out there. Obviously the crack writers at CNN have never ever met a blind person.

    And for the inner hippy in all of us, we found this article about soundscapes from all over the world that you can listen to to chill out.

    And it's more of What's Pissing Off Brian Now and Watcha Streaming, Watcha Reading!

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


    Episode 88 - A Demo of How to Transfer Music Playlists From One Provider to Another Jun 18, 2022
    Show notes

    It's been awhile, but it's another Super Cool, super Solo That Real Blind Tech Show demo from Brian. With more big companies playing nice together, it was about time for Brian to ditch his subscription to Amazon Music, and switch to Apple Music as part of the Apple One Plus option.

    The issue with switching music providers is how do you take your playlists with you that you have been spending so much time creating over the years. Well, with the help of a third party free website, called Tune My Music,

    The good news is with Tune My Music you can transfer playlists between almost any music provider. The disappointing news, at least on the Mac, is you have to take all of your playlists with you, as the feature to deselect individual playlists is not accessible. Still, even with this issue, we thought it was worth it to demo how to take all of your music playlists from one provider to another.

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


    Episode 87 - A Conversation with the Miami Lighthouses Virginia Jacko and Jorge Hernandez Jun 14, 2022
    Show notes

    It's an all new fully packed That Real Blind Tech Show lair, as Brian and Ed welcome in Virginia Jacko, CEO of the Miami Lighthouse and Jorge Hernandez, IT Manager for the Miami Lighthouse.

    We kick things off catching up with Virginia since we last spoke with her mid-pandemic, and find out how things have been going at the Miami Lighthouse.

    We then learn what Jorge does as the IT Manager on a day to day basis.

    Next we dive in to the headache of web overlays and where we are in fighting the battle against them.

    The conversation then moves too distant learning, and the importance of teachers understanding basic accessibility and accessible instruction.

    Here is the web accessibility Overlay fact sheet we discuss during the interview.

    The Miami Lighthouse was heavily involved in reviewing the Presidential candidates websites during the 2020 election. We find out if politicians are following the Lighthouses's advice on the importance of making their website accessible as we approach the Mid-term elections.

    Virginia then walks us through one outstanding example of a case where The Florida Division of Blind Services really excelled.

    We then discuss the differences between working with younger and older visually impaired and blind individuals.

    We discuss policy of government agencies, and the Lighthouse, and how important tackling the mental health side of blindness needs to be.

    Virginia then explains to us some of the non-technical services that the Miami Lighthouse offers.

    We find out how and who is eligible for services from the Miami Lighthouse.

    There are several ways to keep up with the Miami Lighthouse. If you are eligible for services through them, you may want to check out their online shop. To check out all of the amazing services the Miami Lighthouse offers, please visit their website.

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


    Episode 86 - WWDC 22 Release the Geek, Part Deux! Jun 08, 2022
    Show notes

    It's an all new That Real Blind Tech show, and we have found Jeanine, she's alive, and we sucked her in to the That Real Blind Tech Show lair for a massive recap of WWDC 2022. So welcome back Jeanine Stanley, and Allison Meloy is here as well. Sorry Allison no creative lengthy intro for you.

    We start off finding out what the Matrix has been like, as that is the only reasonable explanation to where has Jeanine been.

    We start off discussing the new S lady, er, well it took us awhile but eventually we found a name for the new Sonos assistant, how about the S dude! We don't believe it is taken yet.

    Next before jumping in to everything WWDC, we discuss a landmark lawsuit coming in from Australia against Google and YouTube.

    Then it is on to WWDC 2022. We start off discussing the high quality audio description for this year's keynote, what some of our highlights were and if we had any disappointments from the keynote.

    We got two new Macs coming next month, an M2 Mac Air and a M2 Mac Book Pro. Will either of these devices be in any of our futures? We also got a new Apple 35W charger that will have two UsbC ports.

    We discuss the rumor that Eloquence voices are coming to the iPhone and Mac. We cannot confirm or deny this rumor. We then get in to what excites us most about iOS 16. We then discuss all the changes coming to the newly redesigned locked screen. Next we will be getting iCloud Family Sharing of the photo library. You will now be able to edit and delete sent messages, however, people will be able to tell that changes have been made to the message. Siri is going to kind of get smarter, as she will now be able to hang up phone calls and add emojis. Medication tracking is coming to the health app. Safety Check, a new feature will help people escape domestic violence. iOS 16 apps will now need to ask permission to access the clipboard, ugh. Haptic feedback will be coming to the keyboard, really, we thought it was already there for VoiceOver users.

    Apple Pay later is coming to Apple wallet, but is this really a good thing? Shockingly, we learned Apple Maps currently does not have multi-stop directions, well it will in iOS 16.

    We talk about sports scores and play by play coming to sports, and if you are an Apple News Plus member, you will be able to get news about your favorite teams, but some of us already have apps that do this. The Home app will get an all new badly needed redesign.

    In our favorite segment of the keynote, the Geek was back, as he told us all about the new Watch OS. I love this guy! We are not runners on this show, but lots of new things for those of you who have been known to run. More on sleep tracking to, but nothing about keeping Freddy out of those dreams.

    Mac OS Ventura is coming and is supposed to improve continuity between all of our devices. We discuss the new Stage Time coming to FaceTime and Zoom, and the new Desk. View. We try and figure out what the difference is between deleting a sent message and recalling one, as some of this stuff got quite confusing. Free Form collaboration is coming to the Mac, but will it be accessible, and useful? Stage Manager is yet another feature coming to the Mac, but again, will it be useful for VoiceOver users? And yet another new feature called App Windows will be coming to the Mac. Head can explode now.

    The biggest most revolutionary announcement at this year's WWDC, in our opinion, is PassKey, Apple's attempt to replace old school annoying passwords. Wow, if this actually works.

    The long awaited global nightmare of the iPad not having a weather app is over!

    We discuss Live Text and Jeanine gives us an example of how she has used it.

    And it's more of Watcha Streaming, Watcha Reading.

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


    Episode 85 - Blind Dream Warriors, Some, None, or All! May 29, 2022
    Show notes

    The gang is back together again in the That Real Blind Tech Show lair.

    On this episode we start off discussing WWDC, oh wait, that is still a few weeks off.

    What does Morgan Freeman and Zuckhead have in common? Well, you will have to listen or read this article to find out.

    We figure that we're all adults here, well maybe except for Brian, but we still discuss how Pornhub has changed the world.

    In the absolutely ridiculous portion of the news, California parents will soon be able to sue over their children's social media addictions.

    In more sensible news, Apple is reminding developers that by June 30th, if their app offers the ability to create an account, it must offer the option to delete an account. In a totally utopian world, Apple wants you to be able to switch devices just by picking one up.

    Netflix is stepping up its commitment to Audio Description and Captioning. Did you see the memo the CEO of Netflix sent to woke employees? We did.

    One of us never dreams, so we thought it would be a good time to ask, do blind people dream? And if so, do they dream visually or in sound? And if you dream, what about nightmares too?

    From dreams and nightmares to employment of the blind and low vision. We thought it would be a good time to re-visit how much of a struggle it still is for many people in the low vision and blind community to find suitable employment. And does remote work lead to more low vision and blind people getting employed?

    In honor of the upcoming WWDC from Apple, we decided to take a look back at last year's WWDC to recall what excited us about new features, and what we think about those new features now that we have been using them for a year. Hold on to your hat for this ride!

    The one thing that does have us excited about WWDC 22 is the recent mention of Door Detection coming in the next iOS update, hopefully it will not be as much as a lame duck as recent iOS new features.

    And it's more of What's Pissing Off Brian Now and Watcha Streaming, Watcha Reading!

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


    Episode 84 - Chasing Windmills, A Recap of Google IO with Joe Steinkamp May 20, 2022
    Show notes

    It's an all new That Real Blind Tech Show as Brian is joined in the That Real Blind Tech Show lair by Joe Steinkamp. Joe is here to discuss all the exciting news that came out of this year's Google IO.

    We start off discussing Joe's tweeting habits during big tech announcement sessions, and then directly move in to why Talk Back still sucks so bad.

    We then dive in to the big announcements that came out of this year's google IO. We start off discussing the upcoming Pixel Watch and Fit Bit accessibility. We then discuss Google copying Apple, which leads us in to discussing Google Glass.

    The word accessibility came up several times during Google IO, but not in the way we would have hoped.

    The conversation then turns to Android 13.

    Google announced the Google Pixel 6A, who is this device being marketed towards? And Pixel Tablets again.

    We then discuss both Google and Apple's current business philosophies, and the state of accessibility development.

    And of course it is more of Watcha Streaming, Watcha Reading.

    You can keep up with Joe at Blind Bargains. And make sure to follow Joe on Twitter.

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


    Episode 83 - Rewired Not Retired, This Is Your Life Larry Goldberg May 14, 2022
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    Brian and Ed are back in the That Real Blind Tech Show Lair, and are thrilled to be joined by the recently rewired, not retired Larry Goldberg. Larry just left Yahoo, as their Head of Accessibility.

    We start off asking Larry about the future of accessibility at Yahoo.

    We revisit our history over the past few years with Yahoo and the All Blind Fantasy Football League. If you have not seen the mini documentary about The All Blind League, you can watch it here. If you are interested in joining the Second All Blind Fantasy Football League which will be launching this August, email us in ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com to reserve your spot.

    Coming up in just a few days is Global Accessibility Awareness Day which Larry is involved with, we get his thoughts about where the state of accessibility is in 2022. Larry is also involved with XR Access, a group who's goal is making augmented and virtual reality accessible to all, we dive in to what is coming up with them as their virtual conference will be June 9th and 10th.

    We then begin our stroll down memory lane with a This is your life with Larry Goldberg. We discuss some of Larry's career highlights, some lesser known moments of Larry's career, and of course discuss all the amazing achievements Larry has accomplished in the name of accessibilityy.

    We discuss how a USC Broadcast graduate ends up working in accessibility. Larry explains how captioning eventually led to audio description in television and film. We discuss the early days of audio description and how audio description has evolved here in 2022.

    We then talk about Larry's involvement with the 21st Century Communications Act, and find all about Teach Access.

    We wrap up discussing what we can look forward to from Larry Goldberg the Consultant. You can keep up with Larry through his LinkedIn page.

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


    Episode 82 - Is There A Difference Between A Bluetooth Jerk and A Glasshole? May 07, 2022
    Show notes

    It's an all new That Real Blind Tech Show as the gang is back together in their still socially distant lairs of choice. We start off again with a little peek behind the curtains to our discussion before we actually hit record. Ok, so record had obviously already been hit, but we speak freely until we actually kick off the show.

    Once we get rock and rolling, we start off discussing Global Password Day. Who even knew this was a thing? So for the big day, we discuss our latest methods of managing all those messy passwords. In honor of Global Password Day, Apple, Microsoft, and Google have come together looking to get rid of passwords! And to do so they will be using Fido.

    CNN Plus Sleeps with the fishes! We didn't even get to talk about the launch. And is Netflix adding ads?

    At least as of June 1st on this show we will have some competition for the name the S Lady.

    Apple has announced they will be lowering trade in prices on all devices not named iPhone. Since we have the queen of returns on our show, we thought we would get Allison's expert advice on how she maximizes value on all those returns.

    VoiceDream Reader has come to the Mac, but why would someone need or want it?

    Some users are having a weird iOS bug where Apple Music is replacing other music providers in their dock. Conspiracy theorists are out in the millions!

    With Edge recently passing Safari as the second most used desktop browser, we thought we would visit our go to browsers of choice.

    We discuss the recent article about best wireless headphones in 2022.

    The conversation then moves to the word Transitioning and why is this word used so predominantly in the blindness community. One of us has a big issue with it. Bet you can guess which one of us does!

    Next we discuss our favorite items from the recent article top ten cellphone myths.

    We then go over a couple of emails from Dan and Mary regarding a blunder that happened with the release of an episode a few weeks ago.

    Finally, it's a classic story from Brian, and more of What's Pissing Off Brian Now, and Watcha Streaming, Watcha Reading.

    To contact That Real Blind Tech Show, you can email us at ThatRealBlindTechShow@gmail.com, join our Facebook Group That Real Blind Tech Show, join us on the Twitter @BlindTechShow , or leave us an old school phone message at 929-367-1005.


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