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    Take as Directed

    Take as Directed is the podcast series of the CSIS Global Health Policy Center. It highlights important news, events, issues, and perspectives in global health policy, particularly in infectious disease, health security, and maternal, newborn, and child health. The podcast brings you commentary and perspectives from some of the leading voices in global health and CSIS Global Health Policy Center in-house experts

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    Prof. Victor Cha: Unpacking North Korea’s isolation Apr 13, 2023
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    We sit down again with Victor Cha, Professor at Georgetown University and Senior Vice President at CSIS, for an update on what we know, suspect, and do not know about a North Korea still in extreme isolation from the rest of the world; the status of its Covid outbreak and response; the heightened risk of famine; and the burgeoning exchange of North Korean weapons and ammunition in return for Russian food and energy. A narrow reopening with China is underway, while the continued high pace of missile launches is unnerving much of the world and is crowding out humanitarian considerations. The international presence inside North Korea remains miniscule. How might this isolation be cracked? Give a listen.


    Professor Jennifer Nuzzo: “I am glad we are having this conversation” on school closures. Apr 06, 2023
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    Professor Jennifer Nuzzo, Brown University SPH Pandemic Center, reflects on the recent March 28 hearing that the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic staged on school closures. The subject remains “a political football.”

    But “we now better understand the potential harms. We have not all suffered the same harms.” Progress possible? Not clear, given how toxic the politics has become. Need to “take down the heat.” “We need a national plan for schools’ recovery.”


    Admiral Raquel Bono (ret.): At the pandemic’s front face in Washington State Mar 30, 2023
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    Dr. Raquel Bono, a recently retired, highly accomplished 3-star Admiral as 2020 opened, unexpectedly found herself advising Washington State Governor Inslee at the very advent of the pandemic. What did she experience and learn over the next six and a half months? Subsequently she became the chief medical officer for Viking Cruises, as it reopened its operations. What did that reveal, in particular about its interactions with CDC? Her views on Congress rescinding the mandate for Covid vaccines among US servicemen and women?


    Sheryl Gay Stolberg, NYT: “You cannot keep a raccoon dog as a pet.” Mar 24, 2023
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    Sheryl Gay Stolberg, the iconic health policy/politics reporter at the New York Times, helps us inaugurate The CommonHealth podcast, companion to the newly launched CSIS Bipartisan Alliance for Global Health Security. Her recent prodigious output delves deeply into the evolving – and thoroughly confusing – story of the swirling debate over Covid origin in China. The Biden administration will soon declassify what intelligence it has on the Wuhan Institute of Virology: what might that mean? Will it cast light on the Institute’s cooperation with the Chinese military? Is a legitimate civil debate possible in America? Will we ever get the evidence to reach serious conclusions? Yikes! Give it a listen.


    Goodbye, Coronavirus Crisis Update. Hello, The CommonHealth! Mar 23, 2023
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    Welcome to The CommonHealth, the podcast of the CSIS Bipartisan Alliance for Global Health Security. The CommonHealth replaces the Coronavirus Crisis Update.

    In it, we delve deeply into the puzzle, at home and abroad, that connects pandemic preparedness and response, HIV/AIDS, routine immunization, primary care, and the geopolitical impacts these have on human and national security.


    Sam Radwan, Enhance International “Is this the calm before the storm?” Mar 09, 2023
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    Sam Radwan, founder of Enhance International, has worked on health developments inside China for two decades. He shares his insights and raises some difficult questions. Over 80 year olds continue to be highly vulnerable; only 66% have been vaccinated. China’s 400 million rural poor live with starkly different medial support realities, and we have little visibility into what they are experiencing. An increasing number of Chinese will be traveling abroad to seek medical care, as medical literacy rises. Hong Kong is gearing up as a medical center. Can we imagine a radical decoupling in the health sector, between China and the United States? The deterioration of the US-China relationship is pushing in that direction and will have consequences for reform of the health care sector in China. We need to watch the Chinese government’s drive to restore economic growth. His hope: “cooler heads will prevail” as we realize we need one another in health.


    Dr. Michael Osterholm, CIDRAP, Univ. Minnesota: Fighting Omicron “like trying to stop the wind.” Feb 16, 2023
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    In this newest episode in our series on China, Mike Osterholm reflects. There is no easy explanation for why the Chinese government did so little to prepare while knowing Zero-Covid was failing. Even as Omicron reached an R-naught of up to 16, and 8 million elderly above 80 had received no vaccine. We are now seeing progress by the Chinese in data sharing through George Gao’s recently published Lancet paper. Luckily, there Is no evidence of a dangerous new subvariant emerging, though we have to be cautious and humble. China has experienced a massive increase in deaths. After the Omicron surge that swept the United States in 2022, Omicron settled into a “high plains” continued outbreak of 380-550 deaths per day. That pattern may be seen in China. On the Covid origin controversy, we will likely never know the source. Prospects for an informed U.S.-Chinese dialogue on preparing for the next pandemic? “We are back in the 1970s.”


    Dr. Scott Rivkees, former Florida Secretary of Health: What happened behind the scenes? Feb 09, 2023
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    Dr. Scott Rivkees served under Governor DeSantis as Florida’s Surgeon General and Secretary of Health for 27 months during the pandemic, in what became a rocky political experience. Behind the scenes, what was he able to achieve, in serving Florida’s 67 counties, and in particular, in protecting seniors, managing schools, setting early vaccine priorities? What were the hard lessons for public health professionals, as vaccine hesitancy grew, and morphed into refusal? How well did CDC fare in this period? In his current position as a Professor of Practice at the Brown University School of Public Health, how has he used his columns to push against misinformation and conspiracy theories and urge medical professionals to be more vocal?


    Dr. Chris Murray, IHME, "…we are in for a harder spell…” Feb 02, 2023
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    As part of our series on China post-COVID-19, Chris Murray reflects on where things stand, almost two months after President Xi threw off Zero-Covid controls.

    A huge Covid-19 wave has likely led thus far to a million deaths. It is likely not over. Don’t expect greater Chinese government transparency on numbers. That remains a highly sensitive matter domestically and, no less important, an integral component of China’s foreign policy image and prestige. The Chinese government is driving to get through the outbreak as fast as possible, tough it out, and reopen the economy. China's elderly bear the biggest toll.


    Dr. Scott Kennedy, CSIS -- “Give us our lives back!” Jan 26, 2023
    Show notes

    In our continued series on China post-Zero Covid, Dr. Scott Kennedy recounts the revelations from his six weeks in Beijing and Shanghai in late 2022, and reflects on what has transpired – societally, politically, medically -- since President Xi suddenly threw off the Zero-Covid controls in early December. What is the “toll” for not preparing for the colossal speak of Covid? What to make of a “crisis of confidence” that the government has to face, that is going to “hurt?” What can we expect in the spring in terms of “normalization?’


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