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The Woodwind Rises: On Andre 3000's New Blue Sun Nov 28, 2023

Just the other night at the Local, Yoh was wondering what it would take for the crew to hop back on the mic. One week later, that reason came, courtesy of Andre 3000. In this reunion episode, we unpack New Blue Sun and wonder how Dre's debut solo album will function in our lives—as we age, as we mature, and as hip-hop enters its next 50 years. Watch 'May the Lord Watch: The Little Brother Story' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_LQmpx5l-E

Omeretta the Great's Border Patrol vs. The Illegal ATLiens Feb 21, 2022

Just when we thought apartheid in the A was over, Omeretta the Great's "Sorry Not Sorry" turned "We grew here, you flew here" into a song. In this 911 emergency episode, the crew came out of pod-tirement to discuss with entertainment manager Steven Dingle (@stevozone4).

The Legacy Route (w/ Taylor Crumpton) Nov 30, 2020

Edit: This is our season 3 finale. See y'all in 2021. When we talk about Southern rap’s evolution, we tend to focus on Atlanta’s contributions in particular. Cultural critic Taylor Crumpton reminds us that there are other Southsides — stories about this genre that still need to be told and amplified. As one of five writers selected for Shea Serrano's Halfway Books pilot program, she maps out Dallas rap history by way of Big Tuck's 'Purple Hulk.' Buy Taylor's essay at www.taylorhalfway.com Support for Sum'n to Say is provided by patreon.com/sumntosay

Icefinity War: The Gucci Mane-Jeezy Verzuz Recap Nov 23, 2020

After feuding for 15 or 20 years (hell, they argued over that too), Gucci Mane and Jeezy met at Magic City to settle the score by way of Verzuz. We wrap our heads around the night that was part reunion, part reconciliation and part retaliation. Support for Sum'n to Say comes from patreon.com/sumntosay

From Nujabes to Atlantis (w/ Chester Watson) Nov 16, 2020

Chester Watson released his new album 'A Japanese Horror Film' this past Halloween. Halloween was a Saturday this year, though as the music makes clear, he navigates time and space by his own rules. We discuss how Samurai Champloo, astral projection experiences and a good talking-to from an ex informed his heady personal journey. Support Sum'n to Say at patreon.com/sumntosay

Who is T.I. Doing This Verzuz? Oct 26, 2020

"We hear T.I.'s voice all the time. And depending on your perspective, sometimes we've heard too much of T.I.'s voice," says Jah. This week we debate whether his new album, The L.I.B.R.A., is essential listening. Support for this podcast comes from: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay

Sum'n to Replay: T.I's Preaching to Pushers and Proletariats Oct 19, 2020

We'll be back with a new episode next week. Until then, in honor of T.I.'s new album The L.I.B.R.A., we're bringing back Episode 9 (!) from 2018, exploring 'Trap Muzik' 15 years later. Support for Sum'n to Say comes from: www.patreon.com/sumntosay

How OutKast Split the Atom in 'Stankonia' 20 Years Ago Oct 12, 2020

Once OutKast got its 5-mic review in The Source, what else was left to do? As Jah put it, the resulting sound wasn't Organized Noize — it was disorganized, to its biggest mainstream successes yet. We look back at how 20 years ago, Stankonia fundamentally changed our ideas of what the South had to say. Read Yoh's "Stankonia: The OutKast Album That Defies Reality," on Vinyl Me Please: http://magazine.vinylmeplease.com/magazine/outkast-stankonia-yoh-liner-notes/ Support for Sum'n to Say comes from: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay

The Savage Mode 2 Spooktacular Oct 05, 2020

On one hand, 21 Savage and Metro Boomin double down on what made them bankable stars in the first place. But those searching for the introspection that earned 21 Grammy nods might only find dust and cobwebs. This week we debate the merits and Morgan Freeman interludes of 'Savage Mode II.'

Baby Keem's Mystery Machine Sep 28, 2020

This week we attempt to solve some mysteries, from Kanye West's war against Universal and Sony [6:24] to Baby Keem's new deal with Kendrick Lamar and Dave Free as label bosses [29:17]. We also check out the latest mashup project by DJ Critical Hype, 'ANDRE,' featuring Andre 3000 raps and Tyler, the Creator instrumentals [53:21]. Support for Sum'n to Say comes from https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay

Freestyles Still Matter. Ask Mulatto. Sep 21, 2020

In her 2020 XXL Freshman freestyle, Mulatto says, “Who else do you know that came from a TV show, turned down a deal and still taking off?” We talk about all the twists and turns in her career, from skating rink gigs(shoutout to Yoh's parents) to scoffing at a scarcity mindset. Help support the show at https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay

Sum'n to Hear: God Bless Nick Grant Sep 14, 2020

It's disappointing when an artist's debut project doesn't match the hype, like when Nick Grant, a lyricist by trade, raps about cufflinks in 2017's 'Return of the Cool.' But 2020's 'God Bless the Child' marks the return of Nick Grant as we know it. This is part of Sum'n to Hear, where we discuss the not-yet-household names who have caught our attention.

In Our Feelings Sep 07, 2020

This episode is different because these times are difficult. We're not talking new releases. Instead, Jah tasked us with creating five-song EPs that actually speak to how we're feeling right now. Which songs would be on yours? Let us know at twitter.com/SumnSay. Jah's EP, 'AmeriKKKa the Usual' (5:20): https://open.spotify.com/playlist/64HP462XtOZ5rZa8OgDVKP?si=pVCXe33lQJ-DDohd6onm1A Christina's EP, 'Shaun King Can Go Fuck Himself' (28:59): https://open.spotify.com/playlist/22au1CZwQqBGicHFPj1ler?si=eVDJduI0RRqJ6O4Ki74zcQ Yoh's EP, 'Rome is Burning' (46:04): https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0SZHVpQrmx03nwY59ij3N6?si=k-TiAPk7SZGiEJ4uFI9EZA

The Howard University of Frat Rap Aug 31, 2020

By now it's easy to take Young Money's biggest success stories for granted. But we should remember how strange it was a decade ago to see Lil Wayne handpick his successors. We revisit the strange family portrait that is 2009's 'We Are Young Money,' disgusting CollegeHumor bars and all.

Oh Well... I'm So Contentious Aug 24, 2020

Our original plan this week was to release a throwback episode. But we were so disheartened by the current state of affairs, from Megan Thee Stallion being called a snitch (4:09) to Pharrell and Jay Z's scolding dad energy in "Entrepreneur" (34:26), that this special news bulletin edition felt necessary. We ask the most pressing questions, from "Why is everyone Tory Lanez' friend now?" to "What do we do with rise-and-grind rap when capitalism is broken?"

Wet Ass Popeyes Aug 17, 2020

The alternate title to this episode, about Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's "WAP," is "J. Edgar Jenner." We react to the reactions surrounding the first instant classic of 2020.

Hot Girl Bummer 2: Revenge of the Bummer Aug 10, 2020

Between "Savage" and Quarantine Radio, Megan Thee Stallion and Tory Lanez were behind some of America's greatest quarantine pastimes. Then there was a shooting. We discuss how, between the tasteless takes and Megan's tears of disbelief, the world doesn't deserve a "Hot Girl Summer." Taylor Crumpton for Harper's Bazaar: https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/art-books-music/a33471010/megan-thee-stallion-shooting-misogynoir/ Support on Sum'n to Say's Patreon went directly to purchasing new mics for Jah and Yoh — what's made it possible to restart season 4 during the COVID-19 pandemic. www.patreon.com/sumntosay

Stranger Things Aug 03, 2020

Exactly how well can a posthumous album reflect the artist in question? We compare the new Pop Smoke and Juice WRLD to the closest hip-hop has seen to a platonic ideal: Notorious B.I.G.'s Life After Death. Support on Sum'n to Say's Patreon went directly to purchasing new mics for Jah and Yoh — what's made it possible to restart season 4 during the COVID-19 pandemic. https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay

Lil Babies 'R' Us Mar 09, 2020

There are two types of people. Yoh and Christina are Lil Baby people. They think that twinge of sadness in his voice makes you root for him, which makes the resolve in his lyrics all the more satisfying. But Jah is a DaBaby person. He catches flights, not feelings. This week: a (slightly) grown discussion about baby shit.

K Camp's Unlikely Jackpot Mar 02, 2020

Weeks after The New York Times discovered Renegade dance creator Jalaiah Harmon, we discuss the song that inspired it all. Yes, we're talking "Lottery (Renegade)" by K Camp, the 2015 XXL Freshman behind Mykko Montana's "Do It," "Cut Her Off," "Money Baby" and "Comfortable." Where does he go from here? We play armchair A&Rs to discuss further.

Wastemen Not, Want Not: Jah's Guide to UK Rap Feb 24, 2020

The UK rap scene is reaching critical mass. Jah has noticed, as he's dropped albums like Little Simz's 'GREY Area' in the group text. But when will the States embrace rap in the Queen's English, embrace Stormzy as much as Oasis, much less embrace some actual Black Beatles? To quote Yoh: Buy foreign verses, not foreign cars.

Tyga's Nine Lives Feb 17, 2020

Fun fact: One artist who has more monthly Spotify listens than Chris Brown, J. Cole, Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar and Lil Wayne is... Tyga. Against our better judgment, we discuss how he inexplicably became the Fashion Nova of rap, Pornhub bars and all. Follow us on Twitter @SumnSay.

No Time for Losers ('Cause Khaled's a Champion) Feb 10, 2020

Ten years ago rap game's Adam Sandler released his crowning achievement: a winning jock jam. But could his playbook use an update? We revisit “All I Do is Win” and how DJ Khaled has suffered from success ever since.

Unlock the Swag (w/ Marz and Ducko McFli) Feb 03, 2020

Just when we had grown accustomed to trap becoming the post-recession soundtrack of our lives, we now had to figure out how to pronounce “Rae Sremmurd.” Ebro would rather have pulled the covers over his head. Critics felt old as fuck. For our season 4 premiere, special guests Marz and Ducko McFli of Ear Drummers discuss the making of 'Sremmlife' and the duo who reminded hip-hop how to have fun again, no matter how hard we resisted.

Snowed Out: Revisiting 'The State vs. Radric Davis' and 'Til the Casket Drops' Dec 05, 2019

Ten years ago next week, just when Clipse managed to escape label purgatory and release an album without years of delays ('Til the Casket Drops'), Gucci Mane confirmed his status as the South's new cult rap hero (with 'The State vs. Radric Davis'). In our final episode of 2019, we compare and contrast the two releases to revisit how an era of cocaine rap came to a close, and listeners instead got white boy “Wasted.”

We'd Like to Thank Our Moms Nov 28, 2019

It's that time of year again! The Recording Academy announces its Grammy nominees, and hip-hop complains that the Grammys just don't understand. We debate whether these trophies still matter and revisit the best award show moments in hip-hop history: Diana Ross jiggling Lil Kim's breast. Three 6 Mafia thanking their choreographer. And of course, the South's declaration of independence.

Why Refinance, When You Can Refinesse? ('Parasite' Film Review) Nov 21, 2019

'Parasite' intrigued Jah and Christina so much, they saw it again in theaters. They also insisted that Yoh join them. If you've seen this Bong Joon-ho film, and you're obsessing over every detail and still trying to make sense of its symbolism and hairpin turns, this recap and analysis is for you.

Summer Walker is Over It. Now What? (w/Clarissa Brooks) Nov 14, 2019

QT is the Patreon tier where supporters ask us a question that we tackle in a future episode. (Find out more at patreon.com/sumntosay.) This week patron and longtime listener Jalen K. Wright asks, "What advice would y’all give to an artist like Summer Walker who is not having the best/easiest time dealing with fame?" Critic and community organizer Clarissa Brooks (https://clarissambrooks.contently.com/) joins us to discuss the reluctant star's rapid rise, coupled with the high music business expectations facing an female R&B singer today.

Patreon Unlocked: Getting Back to the Roots Nov 07, 2019

Ain't Gon' Let Up is our Patreon tier where folks can request an episode topic, for any verse, song, album or event taking place in hip-hop and R&B, in the South or otherwise. Find out more at patreon.com/sumntosay. Shoutout to Robbie McClellan for requesting a look back at Things Fall Apart, the Roots album that recently turned 20. Revisiting the album prompted us to look back at the late '90s battle lines between mainstream and alternative hip-hop — and how the Roots found commercial and critical acclaim, despite being firmly on the "losing" side of that battle.

How DJ OHSO's Life Got Twisted Upside Down (w/DJ OHSO) Oct 31, 2019

DJ OHSO was working at a call center when she stumbled across a Will Smith interview saying, "What's the point of a plan B? It distracts you from a plan A." As this episode's special guest, she explains how that random YouTube clip led to the start of her DJ career (in front of the Fresh Prince himself!) and honoring black women with her signature "Bounce Dat" parties. Catch her at Red Bull Music Festival Atlanta 11/7: https://www.redbull.com/us-en/music/events/red-bull-music-festival-atlanta-ohsos-bounce-dat

Sum'n to Hear: Get a GRIP Oct 24, 2019

Bringing back Sum'n to Hear, where Jah, Yoh and Christina discuss the newcomers who have caught their attention. This month we discuss GRIP's 'Snubnose,' a full-length exploration of how the allure of even a revolver can change an East Atlanta native, in the age of "Pull Up Wit Ah Stick." Yoh's DJBooth interview with GRIP: https://djbooth.net/features/2019-10-21-grip-snubnose-inside-bullet-riddled-world

Ten Years of Wale. Wow... That's Crazy Oct 17, 2019

In his 2009 debut 'Attention Deficit,' Wale wants to be it all: a blog darling who can cross over, the DMV native who can carry go-go's torch. We revisit those impossible expectations and discuss how he's recovered ten years later, to meet his criteria for success — and his alone.

I'm DaBaby, Gotta Love Me! Oct 10, 2019

In the time it takes to listen to a DaBaby project, we debate his past life as a Jesus-worshiping Rich Homie Quan soundalike, the best and worst guests on 'KIRK,' and where the Energizer Bunny of hip-hop possibly goes from here.

No Ray J Required Oct 03, 2019

We've never received an episode request like this. This week producer Michael Saba asked us to discuss how the influence of Phil Collins has played out in '808s and Heartbreak,' intros by Meek Mill and Rapsody, songs by DMX — and an unfortunately named tribute album from 2001. More commentary from Mike here: https://www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis

Debate Me, Nerd: The Most Influential Hip-Hop City of 2019 Sep 26, 2019

Hip-hop history is about how the sphere of influence has migrated, from the East Coast to the West Coast, Midwest to the South. Yoh, Jah and Christina attempt to figure out where that sphere of influence is in 2019. Could Megan Thee Stallion inspire a gold rush to Houston? Atlanta was as productive as ever, but was the music as memorable? And is City Girls' "PERIOD" enough to offset DJ Khaled's temper tantrum about bundles? Check out Sum'n to Say on Is the Mic Still On: https://deadendpodcasts.com/tekashi-snitch-nine-ft-christina-and-yoh-sumn-to-say/

Sum'n to Hear: Pretty Girls 18-Wheelin' in the Trap Sep 19, 2019

Introducing Sum'n to Hear, where Jah, Yoh and Christina discuss the newcomers who have caught their attention. This month's playlist features: Benny the Butcher's "18 Wheeler," Maxo Kream's "Meet Again," Summerella's "Pretty Bitch in the Trap," Ari Lennox's "BMO" and Kenny Mason's "Hit."

Rich Gang's Super Saiyan Swagger Sep 12, 2019

The tour itself didn't actually exist. No one was fluent in the Blanguage. And with its DJ interludes, this mixtape could never be mistaken for an album. Yet as we rediscover, Rich Homie Quan and Young Thug's 'Rich Gang: Tha Tour, Pt. 1.' sounds as vital as it did in 2014. The question is whether it requires a sequel.

Hot Girl Bummer Sep 05, 2019

What makes a perfect song of the summer? We reunite to launch season 3 with Chance hats on, debate the merits of Megan Thee Stallion's “Hot Girl Summer,” and submit our picks for 2019: “Act Up” by City Girls (Yoh), “Ballin'” by Mustard and Roddy Rich (Jah), and “Truth Hurts” by Lizzo (Christina).

Think It's A Game?!?! w/ YFN Lucci Jul 25, 2019

On the season finale of Sum'n To Say the gang sits down with Atlanta rapper YFN Lucci to talk about his experience growing up in the city, his journey through the music industry, and his new Gangsta Grillz 650 Luc. Produced by Mike Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Put Sum'n On Our Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

The Thrilling Delusion Cruise of 'Teflon Don' Jul 18, 2019

The opening line to 'Teflon Don' — “I'm not a star” — was a punchline in of itself. In the aftermath of being sued by the actual Freeway Rick Ross and outed as a correctional officer, Rick Ross became more committed to his outlandish persona than ever. Have you ever tried rapping like him? See when your lungs give out. Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

Patreon Unlocked: Confessions, Pt. IGOR Jul 11, 2019

We used to avoid Tyler, the Creator for how he'd lash out in homophobic and misogynistic anger. But in due time, anyone can learn how to process their emotions differently, to where grief can actually end with acceptance. We discuss how 'IGOR' reminds us of that fact. This episode was requested by Patreon supporter Jalen K. Wright. Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

The Ghetty Green New Deal Jul 04, 2019

J. Cole, Cardi B and Drake interpolate his lyrics. Gucci Mane and 21 Savage wouldn't exist without him. But before that, Project Pat was an underground sensation setting the tone for Memphis hardcore rap. To understand the extent of his influence, we go back to where Pat's story begins: 1999's 'Ghetty Green.' Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

DG Yola Never Let Up Jun 27, 2019

Jah's list of all-time favorite records goes something like this: “Purple Rain.” “Thriller.” “Ain't Gon' Let Up.” We time-travel back to 2006, when DG Yola's self-help to steel drums (“Go get your brain a bath / Go to church”) went diamond in the streets. Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

D.O.D.O.A. (Death of 'Death of Auto-Tune') Jun 20, 2019

Back when Southern artists went platinum off a ringtone, and hip-hop's birthplace was notably absent from radio, Jay Z fired off "Death of Auto-Tune." We reflect on how this anticlimactic warfare forever changed how we view Hov as a business, *man,* T-Pain and noogies. Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

Keep Your Drums, Pimp C, Keep Your Drums Jun 13, 2019

What began as an overlooked Project Pat single reemerged in 2007 as the definitive hip-hop wedding song. We look back at how UGK, Three 6 Mafia and OutKast formed a perfect union with "Int'l Players Anthem" — as in, DJ Khaled should stay as far away from this as possible. Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

Make America Buck Again Jun 06, 2019

Crime Mob weren't adults when they arrived in the scene. They drowned in their tall tees. We revisit how, against all odds, this teen group came in the club, shaking their dreads, to create the soundtrack to your smoke with "Knuck If You Buck." Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

Patreon Unlocked: Holy MF Doom, Batman! May 30, 2019

This is a Patreon-exclusive episode, but it's so good that we had to unlock it to share it with everyone. If you're interested in listening to more patron-only content like this, consider contributing to our Patreon crowdfunding page so we have the resources to keep delivering great content like this: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay Twenty years ago Daniel Dumile slipped a Doctor Doom-inspired mask in the fight against the mainstream. We revisit MF Doom's debut album 'Operation Doomsday' (“The character is there, but he is still finding the voice and finding the flow,” says Yoh) and how, despite its limited release, its outsized impact on independent rap. Produced by Michael Saba: https://www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba

Waka Flocka Seagulls May 23, 2019

When Waka Flocka Flame said, “Drug dealing music / I influence,” he had no idea how right he'd be. We discuss how he and Lex Luger's straight brown liquor energy shook up the music industry ten years ago and can still be heard halfway across the world. Produced by Michael Saba: https://www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Closing music by Slimm Leary

How Jermaine Dupri, Ludacris and T.I. Welcomed Us to Atlanta May 16, 2019

Today Jermaine Dupri and Ludacris' smiling faces appear on a giant digital screen at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport to greet the 275,000 passengers flying in on a daily basis. This is the future these homegrown superstars first envisioned in their 2002 hit "Welcome to Atlanta." Plus, a detour through T.I.'s star turn in 'ATL.' Shoutout to new Patreon support Sharod Clerge. Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

TLC and the Perils of the Passenger Side May 09, 2019

The term "scrub" wasn't always gender-specific. But in 1999, TLC, Kandi Burress and Tameka Cottle rewrote the definition to put the patriarchy on notice. Jah, Yoh and Christina revisit how "No Scrubs" alerted them to thirst buckets worldwide. Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

Soulja of Fortune May 02, 2019

You could call it a stroke of luck: how Soulja Boy invented clickbait when he had unsuspecting Limewire users downloading "Donk" instead of the latest Britney Spears single. But to quote Yoh, "Crank Dat"'s lasting impact on music, the industry grind and us all (YOU!) wasn't a joke. Thanks to our first Patreon supporters: Robbie McClellan, Sarah Lawrence and Jalen Wright Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

Missy Elliott Has Been That Bitch Apr 25, 2019

Even Missy Elliott once feared the sophomore slump. We discuss how she answered to that fear 20 years ago: She watched The Matrix, called up Hype Williams and delivered a feminist manifesto called "She's a Bitch." Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

Lil Nas Jesus Apr 18, 2019

The American Dream suggests that anyone here can achieve anything, as long as you work hard. Thanks to Lil Nas X, the American Dream could be summed up even more succinctly: Can't nobody tell me nothing. Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

At the Mercy of 2 Chainz Apr 11, 2019

Once upon a time at Club Frequency, Jah used to always see this tall ass dude with long ass braids wearing an itty bitty shirt. The rapper previously known as Tity Boi has always been this larger-than-life presence. We revisit the moment where 2 Chainz had truly arrived: his feature on G.O.O.D. Music's "Mercy." Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

It Takes Two to Tether('Us' Movie Review ft. David Dennis, Jr.) Apr 04, 2019

We discuss the underexplored themes, jarring scenes and true-to-life horrors of this tinfoil hat thriller. (Of course there are spoilers.) Plus: Is 'Us' the 'Late Registration' of Jordan Peele's catalog? And how would your doppelgänger take you down? Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

The Gang Meets Keri Hilson Mar 28, 2019

MS. KERI, BABY! joins us to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of her debut 'In a Perfect World.' She talks about balancing music with her Emory University studies, catching Timbaland's attention when he was actually considering retirement, and reckoning with how R&B has changed since "Turnin Me On." Feelings of "Intuition" by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Opening music by Slimm Leary

Lil Wayne and the Good Ship Lollipop Mar 21, 2019

"Lollipop" wasn't the Lil Wayne that anyone knew when he recorded it on March 13, 2008. But it would be the Lil Wayne that took over the world. Yoh, Jah and Christina revisit how Weezy bet on himself to become the Auto-Tuned alien force whose DNA can still be found in rap and even rock (I'm sorry, Framing Hanley, for getting your name wrong). Lighter flicks by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Closing music by Slimm Leary

Killer Mike, Atlanta 'Monster' Mar 15, 2019

By 2003, Killer Mike had won Grammy without having an album out. This week we revisit how this "new school Ice Cube" answered to such high expectations with his debut 'Monster,' with all its Bizarre twists and Andre 3000-produced turns. Squeaky A.D.I.D.A.S. by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Closing music by Slimm Leary

Juvenile's Azz Starter Pistol Turns 20 Mar 07, 2019

In a world when even Ellen DeGeneres tries to twerk, we revisit the Billboard hit that turned mainstream America into azz folks, by Juvenile, Mannie Fresh and a prepubescent Lil Wayne. Dragnet suspense by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Intro music by Slimm Leary

Lil Jon, Dave Chappelle, & The Chronicles Of Crunk Feb 28, 2019

The Sum'n To Say podcast consists of Christina, Jah, and Yoh. This week they celebrate the 15 year anniversary of the first time Dave Chappelle did a Lil Jon sketch on Chappelle's Show.

BONUS: Casting Trapula After Seeing 'Horror Noire' Feb 21, 2019

Mere days after we get spooked by the trailers for Jordan Peele's 'Us' and Octavia Spencer's 'Ma,' we find and review a new documentary about black horror from the ages of 'Birth of a Nation' to MAGA hats. Subscribe to watch 'Horror Noire': https://www.shudder.com/ In-depth interview with 'Night of the Living Dead' star Duane Jones: https://youtu.be/w8lDmF2oH4w John Trapenter production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis

Revisiting Geto Boys' First Stab at Horrorcore Feb 21, 2019

In 1988, the Geto Boys emerged out a nightclub called the Rhinestone Wrangler to drop its debut album 'Making Trouble.' We revisit that awkward first stab at what the group would call "horrorcore reality hip-hop," which, for Yoh, led to some awkwardness at Zaxby's. Production and printer smash scenes by Michael Saba: https://www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Intro music by Slimm Leary

Speakerboxxx/The White Grammy Feb 14, 2019

WE'RE BACK. Today we revisit OutKast's 'Speakerboxxx/The Love Below,' the sprawling tour de force where Big Boi relegates Jay Z to hook duty and Andre 3000 completes his transformation to elite grand wizard ATLien. Plus, we discuss the historic Grammy win in what Jah calls the "white" category: Album of the Year. Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis #Free21Savage: https://campaigns.organizefor.org/petitions/free-and-stop-the-deportation-of-21-savage-now-1 Intro music by Slimm Leary

2018 Season Finale Nov 28, 2018

This week on the Sum'n To Say podcast, Jah, Christina and Yoh come together for the end-of-year 2018 wrap-up episode. After Jah and Yoh hash out their opposing opinions on Anderson.Paak’s major label debut album, Oxnard. The trifecta go over their highs, lows, disappointments, and surprises of 2018. This will be the last episode of the year, but we will be back in 2019. Thank you to all our guests and listeners, we hope to see you all next year.

The Gift and the Curse (with Steven "Stevo" Dingle) Nov 21, 2018

The Atlanta talent manager and brand strategist (OG Parker, Kollision) looks back on life and times before and after Quality Control: how he was late to boarding the Jay Z train, helped launch a viral hit before streaming became actual currency and lived to see James Corden singing one of his clients' hits. Production and King of the Hill references by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Special guest Steven "Stevo" Dingle: https://twitter.com/stevozone4 Intro music by Slimm Leary

You Want It To Be One Way...(w/ DJ Wally Sparks) Nov 14, 2018

On this episode of the Sum'n To Say podcast we are joined by the incomparable DJ Wally Sparks to talk about his roots here in Atlanta and his epic R&B party The Groove. Wally also opines about the nature of "fickle" music fans. Is NYC still the mecca of hip-hop? Can meccas move? We dive into that topic as well. Also, Soulja Boy is a political activist (not really, but kinda?)

The Kids Are Alright Nov 07, 2018

This week on the Sum'n To Say podcast, Jah, Christina and Yoh talk about the possibility of Drake becoming a "house show" TV host, the potential future for up-and-coming Atlanta artists like Keenon Rush, Wiley From Atlanta and Boregard. We also plan to make a field trip to Magic City's open mic night and explain why record labels should hire strippers to be A&Rs.

Dreamcast and Nightmares (with Dr. Regina Bradley) Oct 31, 2018

Literal hip-hop scholar Dr. Regina Bradley shares her theses on what the youth are missing out on today: skits, sexually explicit lyrics from male artists, and the joy of spades games IRL. Production and retro console vibes by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Special guest Regina Bradley: twitter.com/redclayscholar Music by Slimm Leary

Literally Everything is a Battle Rap (with David Dennis) Oct 24, 2018

Writer David Dennis expounds on his theories on how God created Dana Carvey in his own image, the Game of Thrones episode that is the Drake and Pusha beef, and how battle rap is the biggest rap influence you're not talking about. Production and pillow talk receipts by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Special guest David Dennis: https://twitter.com/daviddtss "When it all falls down: The twisted nightmare of Kanye West and Donald Trump" https://theundefeated.com/features/when-it-all-falls-down-the-twisted-nightmare-of-kanye-west-and-trump/ Intro music by Slimm Leary

Beware The Ides Of March Oct 19, 2018

On this episode of the Sum'n To Say podcast Christina, Yoh and Jah discuss Drake's interview with LeBron James on 'The Shop' in addition to our reactions to the recent release of albums from Atlanta artists (T.I., Quavo, Usher, Lil Baby & Gunna).

Where's the fuckin blow?? (The A3C Extravaganza Episode With Dom Maldonado) Oct 10, 2018

Passionate music nerd, creator of the Leaders of the New Cool concert series, and Warner Bros. Records A&R Dom Maldonado joins us to talk her first night of the annual A3C Music Conference and Hip-Hop Festival, explains what a Zoovie is, the legendary Magic Mall in Orlando, and shares stories and perspectives on the state of music. Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Special guest Dom Maldonado: https://twitter.com/SunshineDBaby

Can You Feel the Thug Tonight Oct 03, 2018

Ahead of A3C, his first live show since Tha Carter V's arrival, we revisit how Lil Wayne's influence has continued to grow since he actually collaborated with Jason Mraz. We trace said influence through the latest by J.I.D and Young Thug. "'About the Money'? That's Young Thug and a fan." -- Quavo Yohda, who will also appear at A3C this Wednesday, October 3: http://www.a3cfestival.com/schedule/conference/hip-hop-journalists-covering-the-culture-186337 Production and flair by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Intro music by Slimm Leary Further reading: http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/is-young-thug-having-a-moment-or-is-it-passing-him-by.html

Underground To Stone Mountain: Donald Glover's Enigmatic Atlanta Arc Sep 26, 2018

Christina, Jah and Yoh take their DeLorean back to when Childish Gambino was simply a creative kid exploring his musical voice. We then journey forward to the present where he has become a cultural hero. Production and leery 'Camp' references by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Intro music by Slimm Leary

Vision 6oard for the 5tarter Mansion Sep 19, 2018

The new album by 6lack, East Atlanta Love Letter, enters the Sum'n to Say discussion colosseum. We dig into the heart of his sophomore offering, praise the inventive drive-in movie listening party, and consider what the East Atlanta Love Letter can possibly do next. Production and "Vacation" auto-reply by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Intro music by Slimm Leary

The R-Word: The Audacity of Jeezy's 'HOPE' Sep 12, 2018

We revisit the pre-GoFundMe era where all the Tony Robbins of white needed is a Bentley, a kidney for his auntie and a black president. Production and "Vacation" auto-reply by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Intro music by Slimm Leary ICYMI: https://djbooth.net/features/2018-08-31-young-jeezy-the-recession-10-year-anniversary

Escaping the Trap: T.I.'s Preaching to Pushers and Proletariats Sep 05, 2018

"When Trap Muzik came out, it was just an album title," says Yoh. We look back at how T.I. branded this Atlanta cultural export from when Greg Street would bump "Rubber Band Man" back to back. Production and Wire references by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Intro music by Slimm Leary Further reading by Yoh: https://djbooth.net/features/2018-07-17-atlanta-price-hip-hop-authenticity

Creature from the Blacked Lagoon (with Myke C-Town) Aug 29, 2018

Dead End Hip Hop's Myke C-Town stops by to weigh in Nicki Minaj's social media foolishness and the overall perils of being a #content creator in Hellworld 2018. Plus, a brief TED talk on "blacked" (don't Google it, let Yoh's shock explain). Production and artwork by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Special guest Myke C-Town: https://www.youtube.com/user/mykectown Dead End Hip Hop: http://deadendhiphop.com/

Un Solo Migo Aug 24, 2018

On today's lost episode of 'Atlanta,' Yoh and Jah meet for the first time at a mansion party where Quavo is singing hooks a cappella. Production and Beatles vibes by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis

On BlackKlansman, AKA Racist Catfish Aug 22, 2018

We discuss the Trump subliminals, bigoted pillow talk and racists using their indoor voices in BlackKlansman. This review comes a week after we saw it in theaters and 30 seconds after we read Boots Riley's searing 3-page critique. Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis

Primetime, Hammer Time, Halftime: Music And Sports In Atlanta Aug 15, 2018

Pay us now, Super Bowl producers. Since next year's game is in Atlanta, us residents went ahead and curated the entire 2019 ceremony, from the walk-on song to halftime acts and community outreach. Also, Will Smith: Yoh starts as your presidential campaign manager Friday. Production and live action Street Fighter vibes by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis

Dawn of Justice: Our Origin Stories Aug 08, 2018

We look back at when Lenox Mall mixtape salesmen were the original 2 Dope Boyz, Christina's mom heard Eminem taunt Tipper Gore and Yoh's aunt had him review So Far Gone for her website. These are the moments that got us into hip-hop. Production and artwork by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis

Future Potter and the Codeine Stone Aug 01, 2018

Did Jay Z wear a helmet when he lost 92 bricks? Is Future the world's most renewable energy source? And how does he rank among other members of the Dungeon Family? Just asking questions. Production and artwork by Michael Saba: https://www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis

Drake: Scorpion, Shame And Single Dad Subterfuge Jul 25, 2018

Let the record show: We sat to talk Drake's 'Scorpion' two DAYS before 'Rolling Stone' reported Kanye's possible involvement in his beef with Pusha T. So put some respek on Prophet Yoh's name, as you listen to our half-drunk analysis on Drake's shame bars. Produced by Michael Saba.

Trap To The Future Jul 25, 2018

Dave Matthews rapping Migos lyrics on TV. Sounds like one of the seven signs of the apocalypse, right? But Jimmy Fallon's basic ass forced us Atlanta residents and rap critics to reckon with how trap catapulted into the mainstream. While you're here, put on DG Yola's "Ain't Gon' Let Up" for Jah one time: https://youtu.be/ipvkHY9VXOM Produced by Michael Saba.

BONUS: We Just Saw 'Sorry to Bother You' and WTF Jul 18, 2018

SPOILER ALERTS ABOUND. We couldn't help ourselves. We discuss the themes of Boots Riley's standout debut film and the scenes that had us reeling in our seats. Run to a theater near you: https://tickets.sorrytobotheryou.movie/ Produced by Michael Saba.

Introducing Sum'n to Say: Pusha's Paradox Jul 18, 2018

Introducing Sum'n to Say, a new Atlanta-based hip-hop culture podcast starring Jason "Jah" Lee (@HipHopObama), Christina Lee (@MinaAnnLee) and Yoh Phillips (@Yoh31). We ask the most important questions of our time: Will we be mad at Kanye forever? And who will win Pusha v Drake: Dawn of Justice? Produced by Michael Saba.

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