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    Stephan Livera Podcast

    Join Stephan as he interviews the sharpest economic and technical minds in Bitcoin & Austrian Economics to help you understand how money is changing and evolving. Leading names in the world of Bitcoin join the show to share their insights, whether they are developers, CEOs, economists, authors, analysts and more.

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    Will Stablecoins help in Bitcoin adoption? with Gareth Grobler | SLP726 Feb 25, 2026
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    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and Gareth Grobler discuss the innovative features of the Layerz Wallet, focusing on its multi-layered approach to cryptocurrency transactions, the importance of stablecoins for Bitcoin adoption, and the technical challenges of integrating various blockchain technologies. They explore user experience, onboarding strategies, and the future of stablecoins in the context of global markets, while emphasizing the need for a user-centric design that simplifies the process for everyday users.

    Takeaways:

    🔸 Stablecoins are crucial for Bitcoin adoption.

    🔸The dollar is the best of the worst.

    🔸We need to meet people where they are at.

    🔸User experience is key for onboarding.

    🔸Stablecoins provide a smoother transition to Bitcoin.

    🔸Technical challenges exist but can be managed.

    🔸Convenience is what most users want.

    🔸Backup responsibility should shift to the wallet.

    🔸Global markets require localized solutions.

    🔸Bitcoin needs to be useful to people.

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (00:55) - What is the premise of Layerz wallet?

    (02:42) - Which L2s does Layerz support?

    (04:03) - Who is the wallet for?

    (05:54) - Stablecoin layer

    (08:00) - How is Lightning integrated into the wallet?

    (10:00) - User-centric design & onboarding

    (11:41) - The role of Stablecoin layer in Bitcoin adoption

    (16:56) - Understanding swaps & transaction fees

    (21:39) - Should Bitcoin be only on-chain and lightning?

    (26:28) - Which Layer 2 would work best for the user?

    (28:38) - Technical challenges in wallet development

    (31:42) - Will Layerz also be a fiat-to-Bitcoin onramp?

    (32:39) - Hardware wallet support & recovery

    (36:05) - Closing thoughts

    Links:

    • https://x.com/GarethGrobler

    • https://x.com/LayerzWallet

    • https://layerzwallet.com/

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    $1B monthly volume on lightning with Sam Wouters | SLP725 Feb 23, 2026
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    Sam Wouters from River shares the latest insights on Bitcoin and Lightning Network adoption, highlighting recent data, growth trends, and misconceptions. Stephan and Sam also discover how Lightning is scaling, the role of institutional and business adoption, and effective strategies for individual investors.

    Takeaways:

    🔸Lightning Network transaction volume and capacity

    🔸Growth and efficiency improvements in Lightning routing

    🔸Misconceptions about Lightning Network scalability

    🔸Institutional and business adoption of Bitcoin

    🔸Behavior patterns of individual Bitcoin investors

    🔸Narratives and misconceptions in Bitcoin adoption

    🔸Impact of institutional buying and selling on Bitcoin price

    🔸Strategies for Bitcoin evangelism and education

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (00:45) - Overview of River’s report on Lightning Network growth

    (03:31) - Public Lightning Network capacity & usage

    (09:14) - Lightning Network user insights & transaction patterns

    (13:25) - Misconceptions among Bitcoiners about Lightning adoption

    (20:29) - Centralization in Lightning Network

    (23:27) - OGs selling Bitcoin

    (28:21) - Growing institutional adoption of Bitcoin

    (32:33) - Businesses adopting Bitcoin

    (38:47) - Individual Bitcoin investment patterns

    (41:19) - The importance of DCA in bear markets

    (44:38) - Bitcoin evangelism

    (52:22) - Closing thoughts

    Links:

    • https://x.com/SDWouters

    • https://x.com/River

    • https://x.com/SDWouters/status/2024507942708351443

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    Bitcoin spam debates with Charlie Spears | SLP724 Feb 21, 2026
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    In this interview, Stephan Livera chats with Charlie Spears from Blockspace about Bitcoin's ongoing debates on spam, protocol upgrades, and the future of Bitcoin development. They explore the nuances of on-chain data, the impact of ordinals, and the importance of ecosystem diversity.

    Takeaways:

    🔸The history and evolution of Bitcoin data debates, including the fork and filter strategies

    🔸The real impact of spam and arbitrary data on Bitcoin's security and censorship resistance

    🔸Analysis of proposed protocol changes like BIP 110 and their effectiveness in curbing spam

    🔸The game theory behind spam vectors and how the ecosystem adapts to soft forks and filters

    🔸The role of different Bitcoin clients and the importance of client diversity for network robustness

    🔸The future of ordinals, inscriptions, and their potential resurgence tied to Bitcoin's overall adoption and price cycles

    🔸Insights into Bitcoin Layer projects and the importance of ecosystem tracking and transparency

    🔸The significance of Bitcoin conferences like Opnext for fostering developer-institution collaboration and debate

    🔸The overarching principle: increasing Bitcoin adoption as the best solution to data and spam concerns

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (01:13) - The BIP110 fork and filter debate

    (03:59) - Consensus changes vs. policy solutions

    (08:36) - Understanding spam and data on the Bitcoin blockchain

    (11:29) - Diversity of Bitcoin clients

    (14:29) - What is considered spam?

    (17:55) - Will BIP110 stop or curb spam?

    (24:51) - Evolution of spam tactics in Bitcoin

    (29:18) - The future of Ordinals

    (32:16) - Does Ordinals & spam make Bitcoin a worse money?

    (37:04) - What is ‘Bitcoin Layers’?

    (43:02) - What is OPNEXT 2026?

    (52:49) - Closing thoughts

    Links:

    • https://x.com/cbspears

    • https://blockspace.media/

    • https://x.com/blockspace

    • https://x.com/opnext2026

    • https://x.com/oklahomabtc

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    Is Your Bitcoin Transaction Safe? with Keith Gardner | SLP723 Feb 19, 2026
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    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and Keith from Branta discuss the intricacies of Bitcoin payments, focusing on the importance of address verification and security in the context of increasing digital threats. They explore how Branta's zero-knowledge verification process can enhance user experience and security, particularly in the face of potential scams and malware. The discussion also touches on the integration of Branta with Lightning and other Layer 2 solutions, as well as the future of Bitcoin user experience in an AI-driven world.

    Takeaways:

    🔸Bitcoin payments require careful address verification to avoid scams.

    🔸Branta uses zero-knowledge proofs to enhance security.

    🔸User experience in Bitcoin transactions needs improvement.

    🔸Address replacement attacks are a significant risk.

    🔸Branta aims to provide a seamless verification process.

    🔸Integration with wallets and exchanges is crucial for adoption.

    🔸AI may introduce new scamming vectors in cryptocurrency.

    🔸The goal is to make Bitcoin as user-friendly as credit cards.

    🔸Businesses adopting Branta can enhance customer trust.

    🔸Future developments will focus on consumer use cases for Branta.

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (00:35) - What’s new with Branta?

    (01:32) - Address verification risks

    (04:59) - What is Branta's Zero-Knowledge verification process?

    (08:36) - Where is the verification taking place?

    (11:55) - Address verification in mobile and web interfaces

    (15:50) - Branta's integration with Lightning and L2s

    (18:17) - Costs of using Branta

    (18:58) - Future of Bitcoin security and AI threats

    (21:03) - Branta's role in consumer adoption

    (25:25) - Closing thoughts

    Links:

    • https://x.com/unfakekeith

    • https://x.com/BrantaOps

    • https://branta.pro/

    Stephan Livera links:

    • Follow me on X: @stephanlivera

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    Monetizing the Megawatt with Robert Warren | SLP722 Feb 17, 2026
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    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and Robert Warren discuss the evolving landscape of Bitcoin mining, focusing on the intersection of energy consumption and human flourishing. They explore the impact of AI on energy demand, the misconceptions surrounding the cost of production in Bitcoin mining, and innovative strategies for monetizing energy. The discussion highlights notable examples of companies and initiatives that are redefining the mining industry, emphasizing the importance of flexibility and community-driven innovation.

    Takeaways:

    🔸Energy consumption correlates with human flourishing.

    🔸The narrative around Bitcoin mining is evolving positively.

    🔸AI's demand for energy is reshaping the mining landscape.

    🔸Cost of production metrics are often misleading in Bitcoin mining.

    🔸Henry Ford's principles of continuous production apply to Bitcoin mining.

    🔸Monetizing the megawatt involves diverse revenue streams.

    🔸Gridless compute is revolutionizing energy use in Bitcoin mining.

    🔸Smaller miners can thrive by leveraging unique opportunities.

    🔸Flexible load strategies can stabilize energy markets.

    🔸Innovation labs like Choya are crucial for industry advancement.

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (00:50) - Overview of National Energy & Mining Summit

    (02:42) - Human flourishing and energy consumption

    (06:11) - The energy narrative around Bitcoin

    (10:00) - Bitcoin miners pivoting to AI

    (14:04) - Hashrate growth

    (16:59) - “Cost of Production” analyst metric criticism

    (22:50) - Early years of Bitcoin mining

    (24:54) - Henry Ford's crystal palace

    (29:38) - Monetizing the Megawatt

    (33:10) - Different revenue streams in Bitcoin mining

    (36:20) - How is Gridless Compute innovating Bitcoin mining ops?

    (40:15) - Robert’s Home Bitcoin mining setup

    (42:38) - What is ‘Flexible Load Management’ in Bitcoin mining?

    (46:41) - Upstream Data bridging Oil & Bitcoin mining

    (50:49) - The Cholla Innovation Lab

    (54:23) - Upcoming events at Bitcoin Park

    Links:

    • https://x.com/robertwarren

    • https://x.com/bitcoinpark_

    • https://x.com/robertwarren/status/2019449339811131840

    • https://bitcoinpark.com/MONETIZING%20THE%20MEGAWATT%201_26.pdf

    • https://linktr.ee/bikesandbitcoin

    Stephan Livera links:

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    Is Quantum FUD BS with James O'Beirne SLP721 Feb 13, 2026
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    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and James O'Beirne discuss the implications of quantum computing on Bitcoin, exploring skepticism towards the perceived threats, the current state of quantum research, and the potential responses from Bitcoin developers. They delve into proposed solutions, the role of institutions like NIST, and the challenges of Bitcoin protocol development. The discussion also touches on user experience, self-custody, and the future of Bitcoin adoption amidst evolving technological landscapes.

    Takeaways:

    🔸Quantum computing poses theoretical risks to Bitcoin, but practical threats are far off.

    🔸Skepticism about quantum computing's immediate impact is prevalent among experts.

    🔸Bitcoin developers have more pressing issues to address than quantum threats.

    🔸Proposed solutions like BIP 360 could enhance Bitcoin's security regardless of quantum risks.

    🔸NIST's push for post-quantum cryptography raises concerns about government influence.

    🔸The academic and business interests in quantum computing may hype its urgency.

    🔸Bitcoin's protocol development faces challenges due to a lack of strong leadership.

    🔸User experience is crucial for Bitcoin adoption and self-custody.

    🔸The future of Bitcoin may depend on how well it adapts to user needs and technological changes.

    🔸Bitcoin remains a unique solution to fiat debasement and economic instability.

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (00:46) - What is the deal with quantum computing and Bitcoin?

    (05:05) - Advancing progress in quantum computing

    (09:43) - Is the quantum threat to Bitcoin around the corner?

    (11:57) - Quantum resistant schemes developed by Bitcoiners

    (15:45) - NIST and diverse views on Post-quantum cryptography

    (22:31) - The future of Bitcoin in a Post-quantum world

    (29:45) - 'Matt Corallo Quantum Plan'

    (34:08) - A modest version of the Big Blocker view

    (38:41) - Covenants and Scaling Bitcoin

    (43:35) - Comparing OP_TEMPLATEHASH & OP_CTV

    (48:01) - The ‘Slow and Steady’ approach to Bitcoin development

    (55:19) - What’s the next adoption pathway for Bitcoin?

    (1:04:04) - AssumeUTXO, Utreexo & Floresta

    (1:07:20) - Why are so few people running Bitcoin nodes?

    (1:14:52) - Closing thoughts

    Links:

    • https://x.com/jamesob

    • https://ctv-csfs.com/

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Qs31E80cA

    Stephan Livera links:

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    Bitcoin Loans at Arch | Dhruv Patel SLP720 Feb 12, 2026
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    In this episode, Stephan Livera and Dhruv Patel, CEO of Arch Lending, discuss the current state of Bitcoin lending, market trends, and the unique products offered by Arch Lending. They explore the mechanics of Bitcoin-backed loans, risk management strategies for borrowers, and the importance of custody and security in the lending process. The conversation also touches on the future of Bitcoin lending, growth strategies, and the evolving landscape of financial products in the cryptocurrency space.

    Takeaways:

    🔸Bitcoin lending is gaining traction despite market volatility.

    🔸Arch Lending offers flexible Bitcoin-backed loans with up to 60% LTV.

    🔸Understanding the mechanics of Bitcoin loans is crucial for borrowers.

    🔸Customized loan products cater to specific needs of clients.

    🔸Risk management is essential when borrowing against Bitcoin.

    🔸Arch Lending does not rehypothecate client collateral, ensuring security.

    🔸The market for Bitcoin-backed loans is expected to grow significantly.

    🔸Debt can be a powerful tool for wealth building if managed wisely.

    🔸Interest rates for Bitcoin loans have decreased over time.

    🔸Current market conditions may present safer borrowing opportunities.

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (01:22) - How does Arch Lending work?

    (02:50) - What does Arch Lending offer?

    (05:15) - LTV conditions & specialised loan products

    (09:20) - Risk-managed borrowing against Bitcoin

    (14:20) - How does Arch Lending custody the Bitcoin?

    (15:46) - Comparing various Bitcoin lending models

    (19:46) - Thoughts on borrowing against Bitcoin ETFs

    (21:37) - Capital providers for Arch Lending

    (23:16) - Will Arch Lending provide Proof of Reserves?

    (24:34) - All-in-one Bitcoin financial services

    (25:48) - Growth & future of Bitcoin lending

    (28:08) - Who should NOT use Bitcoin lending services?

    (32:45) - Will TradFi offer similar Bitcoin lending products?

    (34:08) - Closing thoughts

    Links:

    • https://x.com/ArchLending

    • https://archlending.com/

    Stephan Livera links:

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    What do Bitcoiners do about Quantum? with Matt Corallo | SLP719 Feb 11, 2026
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    In this episode, Stephan Livera and Matt Corallo discuss the implications of quantum computing on Bitcoin's security. They explore expert opinions on the timelines for quantum threats, the current stance of Bitcoin developers, and potential solutions for quantum resistance. Matt introduces his proposed plan for integrating quantum-resistant features into Bitcoin wallets, emphasizing the need for gradual adoption and community consensus. The conversation also touches on market dynamics, the role of seed phrases, and the importance of preparing for a future where quantum computing could pose a significant risk to Bitcoin.

    Takeaways:

    🔸Quantum computers are not an immediate threat to Bitcoin.

    🔸Experts suggest a timeline of 10 to 25 years for quantum threats.

    🔸Bitcoin developers have historically underestimated quantum risks.

    🔸There is ongoing research into quantum-resistant solutions.

    🔸Wallet adoption of new technologies is slow and challenging.

    🔸The future Bitcoin community will make decisions on quantum security.

    🔸Market dynamics will influence the value of quantum-vulnerable coins.

    🔸Seed phrases provide a layer of security against quantum threats.

    🔸The proposed quantum plan aims for minimal disruption to users.

    🔸Preparation for quantum threats should start now, even if the risk is distant.

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (00:51) - Quantum computer’s breakthrough timelines

    (03:38) - Are Bitcoin developers taking the quantum threat seriously?

    (07:41) - Evaluating the quantum threat

    (10:00) - The Matt Corallo Quantum Plan

    (17:48) - Future community decisions on quantum security

    (20:12) - Will Bitcoin need a soft fork?

    (23:30) - Market’s response to quantum threat

    (28:15) - The role of seed phrases in quantum security

    (33:40) - Post quantum cryptographic schemes

    (37:23) - Patoshi miner adapting to Q-Day

    (43:25) - Which public cryptography scheme is most vulnerable?

    (50:20) - Closing thoughts

    Links:

    • https://x.com/TheBlueMatt

    • https://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/

    • https://saveourwallets.org/

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    A semi-custodial model for Bitcoin? with Jos Lazet | SLP718 Feb 10, 2026
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    In this episode, Stephan Livera interviews Jos Lazet from Blockrise, discussing the recent volatility in Bitcoin prices, the semi-custodial model of Blockrise, and the future of Bitcoin lending. They explore the implications of market movements, the importance of risk management in lending, and the evolving landscape of Bitcoin services. Joss shares insights on Blockrise's offerings, including asset management and lending, and emphasizes the need for user-friendly solutions in the Bitcoin space.

    Takeaways:

    🔸Bitcoin's volatility is expected to continue for several years.

    🔸The semi-custodial model offers a balance between security and usability.

    🔸Risk appetite is crucial when considering Bitcoin loans.

    🔸Institutional adoption is necessary for Bitcoin's growth.

    🔸Blockrise aims to provide transparent and user-friendly services.

    🔸The lending market is evolving with new standards and players.

    🔸Understanding liquidation points is essential for borrowers.

    🔸The European banking system is efficient for fiat transactions.

    🔸Blockrise focuses on a hybrid custody solution for clients.

    🔸The future of Bitcoin lending will involve more innovative financial products.

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (01:00) - Bitcoin’s recent price volatility & ETFs role

    (05:31) - What is Blockrise?

    (08:08) - Semi-custodial model

    (11:44) - How does Blockrise work?

    (18:55) - Onboarding & user journey in Bitcoin custody

    (24:42) - Does Blockrise support stablecoins?

    (28:34) - Fiat integration and future of stablecoins in Bitcoin lending

    (32:21) - Insights from ‘Bitcoin Lending Standards’ report

    (42:00) - Leveraged Bitcoin or Stay humble & stack sats?

    (47:27) - Loan terms, interest rates and fees

    Links:

    • https://x.com/jos_lazet

    • http://blockrise.com

    • https://www.blockrise.com/en/resources/the-bitcoin-lending-standards-2026-article

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    Bridging Bitcoin to TradFi with Harsha Goli | SLP717 Feb 08, 2026
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    In this episode, Harsha Goli from Magnolia Financial discusses the launch of their Bitcoin-enabled banking services across the US, navigating regulatory challenges, and the importance of partnerships with banks. He emphasizes the need for better user experiences in Bitcoin transactions, the role of price oracles, and the implications of the Clarity Act on Bitcoin development. The conversation also touches on the tension between traditional banks and the crypto industry, the future of community banks, and innovations in Bitcoin technology. Harsha shares insights on potential use cases for Magnolia's services and the challenges of bridging the gap in Bitcoin adoption, while also addressing privacy concerns in Bitcoin transactions.

    Takeaways:

    🔸Magnolia Financial has launched Bitcoin-enabled banking services across all US states.

    🔸The company aims to provide a better user experience in Bitcoin transactions.

    🔸Partnerships with banks are crucial for navigating regulatory challenges.

    🔸The Clarity Act is seen as a positive development for Bitcoin institutions.

    🔸Stablecoins are currently dominating the financial landscape.

    🔸Magnolia is focused on integrating financial services into Bitcoin applications.

    🔸The future of community banks may involve adapting to crypto innovations.

    🔸Innovations in Bitcoin technology, especially Layer 2 solutions, are promising.

    🔸Privacy concerns in Bitcoin transactions are becoming increasingly complex.

    🔸Harsha emphasizes the need for seamless money transfers in the Bitcoin ecosystem.

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) - Intro

    (00:36) - Magnolia enabling Bitcoin-enabled banking

    (03:10) - Regulatory hurdles in the US

    (05:03) - Can Banks provide their own native Bitcoin rails?

    (08:24) - Improving UX with Magnolia

    (11:48) - Magnolia as Price Oracle in Bitcoin finance

    (13:35) - Magnolia's pricing and onboarding process

    (17:10) - What is the impact of US regulations on Bitcoin development?

    (21:11) - CLARITY Act

    (25:00) - Tension between Banks & Crypto

    (28:01) - Community Banks and Crypto?

    (29:31) - What is Harsha excited about in Bitcoin and its L2’s?

    (32:08) - Use cases of Magnolia

    (33:48) - Stable channels & Taproot assets

    (38:10) - Increasing Bitcoin adoption?

    (40:51) - Bitcoin privacy and financial scams

    (46:58) - Closing thoughts on building with Magnolia

    Links:

    • https://x.com/arshbot

    • https://x.com/magnolia_rails

    • https://magnolia.financial/

    Stephan Livera links:

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