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    Startups For the Rest of Us

    The original podcast for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped startups, this show follow the stories of founders as they start, acquire, and grow SaaS companies. Hear when they fail, struggle, succeed, and take you with them through the tumultuous life of a SaaS founder. If you like Mixergy, This Week in Startups, or SaaStr, you’ll enjoy Startup for the Rest of Us.

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    Episode 643 | Feature Flags, Impostor Syndrome, and More Listener Questions with Derrick Reimer Jan 10, 2023
    Show notes

    In episode 643, Rob Walling chats with fan favorite Derrick Reimer, the founder of SavvyCal, as they answer listener questions. They cover topics ranging from SaaS feature flags to communicating product needs to a technical founder and combating imposter syndrome.

    Episode Sponsor:

    Find your perfect developer or a team at Lemon.io/startups

    The competition for incredible engineers and developers has never been more fierce. Lemon.io helps you cut through the noise and find great talent through its network of engineers in Europe and Latin America.

    They take care of the vetting, interviewing, and testing of candidates to make sure that you are working with someone who can hit the ground running.

    When it comes to hiring, the time it takes to write your job description, list the position, review resumes, schedule interviews, and make an offer can take weeks, if not months. With Lemon.io, you can cut down on a lot of that time by tapping into their wide network of developers who can get started in as early as a week.

    And for subscribers of Startups For the Rest of Us, you can get 15% off your first 4 week contract with a developer by visiting lemon.io/startups

    Topics we cover:

    • 2:17 - How to think about feature flags for different pricing tiers
    • 10:31 - How to communicate product needs to a technical cofounder
    • 22:03 - When to put your main SaaS on the backburner
    • 28:13 - Combating developer imposter syndrome

    Links from the Show:

    • Derrick Reimer (@derrickreimer) I Twitter
    • SavvyCal
    • MicroConf US
    • The Stair Step Method to Bootstrapping

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you.

    Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher


    Episode 642 | The Pros and Cons of Building a No-Code MVP Jan 03, 2023
    Show notes

    In episode 642, Rob Walling chats with Tara Reed, who is the founder of Apps Without Code. We talk about her journey getting into no-code, bootstrapping Apps Without Code to $5M ARR, and the decision she made last year to throttle growth to become more profitable. In our conversation, we also cover some of the pros and cons of no-code tools, along with some entrepreneurial mindset shifts that new entrepreneurs need to make.

    Topics we cover:

    • 1:46 - How Tara came up with the idea for Apps Without Code
    • 3:56 - Why Tara deliberately scaled the business back from $5M to $3M in ARR
    • 5:35 - Tara’s approach to building the Apps Without Code Team
    • 6:04 - Two ways that Apps Without Code makes money
    • 10:50 - The biggest no-code limitations today
    • 16:29 - Using no-code tools to build MVPs and internal apps
    • 19:07 - Tara’s preferred no-code platform
    • 20:24 - The biggest positives of building with no-code tools
    • 22:40 - The biggest drawbacks of building with no-code tools
    • 26:56 - 3 entrepreneurial mindset shifts that new founders need to make

    Links from the Show:

    • Tara Reed (@tarareed_) I Twitter
    • Apps without Code
    • MicroConf 2023 Accountability Challenge
    • MicroConf Connect
    • State of Independent SaaS Report
    • Glide
    • Episode 14 I Overcoming Fear

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you.

    Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher


    Episode 641 | Dealing with High Churn, Rolling Out an MVP, and More Listener Questions Dec 27, 2022
    Show notes

    In episode 641, join Rob Walling for a solo adventure as he answers more listener questions. Topics covered range from dealing with high churn when your tool is project-based, what product feedback to listen to in the early days, and when to hire project-level thinkers vs. task-level thinkers.

    Topics we cover:

    • 3:18 - Dealing with high churn when your tool is project-based
    • 8:38 - Going upmarket
    • 9:42 - Who to listen to in the early days to improve your product
    • 15:47 - Should I worry about people copying my business idea?
    • 24:26 - Should I join MicroConf Connect if I’m still in the idea validation phase?
    • 25:54 - Hiring project-level thinkers vs. task-level workers

    Links from the Show:

    • The SaaS Playbook
    • MicroConf 2023 Accountability Challenge
    • MicroConf Connect

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you.

    Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher


    Episode 640 | Hot Take Tuesday: Recession and Bootstrappers, ChatGPT, Twitter Drama Dec 20, 2022
    Show notes

    In episode 640, join Rob Walling, Einar Vollset, and Tracy Osborn for Hot Take Tuesday, where they analyze and discuss some of the latest news. We dig into ChatGPT, the new tool everyone is talking about from OpenAI. We also discuss Elon Musk acquiring Twitter and the drama around this entire endeavor and whether or not the U.S. is in a recession right now.

    Topics we cover:

    • 2:06 - ChatGPT
    • 14:29 - Is there a path to bootstrap an AI startup?
    • 18:59 - Is the U.S. in a recession right now?
    • 29:37 - Elon Musk acquiring Twitter and the drama around his early moves

    Links from the Show:

    • Tracy Osborn (@tracymakes) I Twitter
    • Einar Vollset (@einarvollset) I Twitter
    • ChatGPT

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you.

    Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher


    Episode 639 | The Secret Sauce to Building Happy, Motivated Teams Dec 13, 2022
    Show notes

    In episode 639, Rob Walling chats with Andrew Berkowitz, the co-founder and CEO of Suggestion Ox, about the secret sauce to building happy, high-performing teams and how we as founders need to unlearn some of the strict policies that have been in place for hundreds of years.

    Suggestion Ox is a feedback platform that helps HR teams build candid communication between leadership and employees. And before that, Andrew co-founded a sports management platform that was acquired in 2021.

    Episode Sponsor:

    Find your perfect developer or a team at Lemon.io/startups

    The competition for incredible engineers and developers has never been more fierce. Lemon.io helps you cut through the noise and find great talent through its network of engineers in Europe and Latin America.

    They take care of the vetting, interviewing, and testing of candidates to make sure that you are working with someone who can hit the ground running.

    When it comes to hiring, the time it takes to write your job description, list the position, review resumes, schedule interviews, and make an offer can take weeks, if not months. With Lemon.io, you can cut down on a lot of that time by tapping into their wide network of developers who can get started in as early as a week.

    And for subscribers of Startups For the Rest of Us, you can get 15% off your first 4 week contract with a developer by visiting lemon.io/startups

    Topics we cover:

    • 2:10 - Why trust is the key ingredient when building high-performing teams
    • 6:56 - Flexible vacation policies
    • 9:17 - Flexible work hours
    • 15:08 - The link between remote work and hiring and retaining great employees
    • 18:14 - Using transparency to build trust with your team
    • 19:43 - How transparent should you be with your team for temporary issues?
    • 21:55 - Does this approach to trust and transparency work at scale?
    • 25:57 - Getting better at giving constructive feedback as a manager
    • 28:20 - Is it possible to hire the best people at scale?
    • 32:08 - Andrew’s approach to dealing with bad apples or people who slack off
    • 36:41 - Building a company culture where employees feel safe to give candid feedback

    Links from the Show:

    Andrew Berkowitz I Twitter

    Suggestion Ox


    Episode 638 | How to Generate Startup Ideas (Plus 8 Ideas You Can Steal) Dec 06, 2022
    Show notes

    In episode 638, Rob Walling chats with Justin Vincent about how to generate startup ideas. They share 8 startup ideas in this episode along with Justin’s approach for coming up with thousands of startup ideas.

    Topics we cover:

    • 1:58 - Coming up with SaaS ideas
    • 3:51 - Transcription for team meetings
    • 11:42 - Online time capsule
    • 15:41 - Pest control using drones
    • 20:29 - Prerecorded live interviews
    • 25:06 - Special diet builder
    • 26:30 - AI-casting director
    • 29:53 - Cash burn alert for VC
    • 31:47 - database modeling tool

    Links from the Show:

    • Justin Vincent (@justinvincent) I Twitter
    • Nugget.one
    • Techzing
    • Episode 526 I Launching, learning and teaching with Justin Vincent

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you.

    Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher


    Episode 637 | B2B vs. B2C, Hiring for Sales, and Bootstrapping a 2-Sided Marketplace Nov 29, 2022
    Show notes

    In episode 637, join Rob Walling for another solo adventure as he answers a handful of listener questions. Topics covered range from hiring your first salesperson and acquiring a web app to dealing with the fear of having your idea copied and why bootstrapping a two-sided marketplace is usually a bad idea.

    Episode Sponsor:

    Find your perfect developer or a team at Lemon.io/startups

    The competition for incredible engineers and developers has never been more fierce. Lemon.io helps you cut through the noise and find great talent through its network of engineers in Europe and Latin America.

    They take care of the vetting, interviewing, and testing of candidates to make sure that you are working with someone who can hit the ground running.

    When it comes to hiring, the time it takes to write your job description, list the position, review resumes, schedule interviews, and make an offer can take weeks, if not months. With Lemon.io, you can cut down on a lot of that time by tapping into their wide network of developers who can get started in as early as a week.

    And for subscribers of Startups For the Rest of Us, you can get 15% off your first 4 week contract with a developer by visiting lemon.io/startups

    Topics we cover:

    • 1:14 - You either die a consumer startup hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become a B2B SaaS founder.
    • 2:40 - Hiring your first salesperson
    • 9:36 - Bootstrapping a talent marketplace
    • 15:10 - Acquiring a web app
    • 19:40 - Getting over your fear of being copied when doing idea validation interviews

    Links from the Show:

    • Daniel Nguyen (@daniel_nguyenx)’s tweet
    • The Mom Test

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you.

    Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher


    Episode 636 | A Customer-Led Approach to Driving More Recurring Revenue Nov 22, 2022
    Show notes

    In episode 636, Rob Walling chats with Claire Suellentrop about the new book she co-wrote with her co-founder, Georgiana Laudi. The book is called Forget the Funnel: A Customer-Led Approach to Driving Predictable Recurring Revenue. Gia and Claire have run a consulting firm for the past several years where they are working with startups and SaaS companies to help them learn more about their customers in order to drive more revenue. And this book is a distillation of their learnings.

    Topics we cover:

    • 1:09 - Why did Claire name their new book, Forget the Funnel?
    • 2:36 - A three-step approach for unlocking customer-led growth
    • 3:09 - A framework for getting inside your customers’ heads
    • 14:01 - How to learn from future customers
    • 20:21 - Applying and operationalizing all your customer insights

    Links from the Show:

    • Claire Suellentrop (@ClaireSuellen) I Twitter
    • Georgiana Laudi (@ggiiaa) I Twitter
    • Forget The Funnel: a Customer-Led Approach to Driving Predictable, Recurring Revenue
    • The Jobs-to-be-Done Handbook: Practical techniques for improving your application of Jobs-to-be-Done
    • Deploy Empathy: A practical guide to interviewing customers
    • Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It
    • Episode 537 | On Launching, Funding, and Growth with Serial SaaS Founder Rand Fishkin
    • Sparktoro
    • MicroConf Growth

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you.

    Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher


    Episode 635 | Where Are They Now? Catching up with TinySeed Tales' Tony Chan Nov 15, 2022
    Show notes

    In episode 635, Rob Walling catches up with Tony Chan, the co-founder of CloudForecast, an AWS cost monitoring tool. Tony shared his victories, challenges, and failures in TinySeed Tales Season 3. It has been over eight months since we recorded the final episode.

    In this episode, we reflect and catch up on what’s been happening with Tony and CloudForecast.

    Episode Sponsor:

    Find your perfect developer or a team at Lemon.io/startups

    The competition for incredible engineers and developers has never been more fierce. Lemon.io helps you cut through the noise and find great talent through its network of engineers in Europe and Latin America.

    They take care of the vetting, interviewing, and testing of candidates to make sure that you are working with someone who can hit the ground running.

    When it comes to hiring, the time it takes to write your job description, list the position, review resumes, schedule interviews, and make an offer can take weeks, if not months. With Lemon.io, you can cut down on a lot of that time by tapping into their wide network of developers who can get started in as early as a week.

    And for subscribers of Startups For the Rest of Us, you can get 15% off your first 4 week contract with a developer by visiting lemon.io/startups

    Topics we cover:

    • 3:03 - Losing one of CloudForecast’s engineers
    • 5:35 - Tony’s approach to hiring engineers
    • 8:31 - Did Tony end up hiring someone to help with content marketing?
    • 17:32 - What is Tony struggling with right now?
    • 21:07 - Managing your founder psychology
    • 25:08 - Tony’s recent conundrum

    Links from the Show:

    • Tony Chan (@toeknee123) I Twitter
    • CloudForecast
    • TinySeed Tales Season 3
    • MicroConf Local: Austin

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you.

    Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher


    Episode 634 | Naming Your Startup, Tapping Out a Niche, and Licensing Your IP Nov 08, 2022
    Show notes

    In episode 634, join Rob Walling for another solo adventure where he answers listener questions on topics ranging from naming your startup to initial aha moments and how to know if you have tapped out a specific niche.

    Episode Sponsor:

    Find your perfect developer or a team at Lemon.io/startups

    The competition for incredible engineers and developers has never been more fierce. Lemon.io helps you cut through the noise and find great talent through its network of engineers in Europe and Latin America.

    They take care of the vetting, interviewing, and testing of candidates to make sure that you are working with someone who can hit the ground running.

    When it comes to hiring, the time it takes to write your job description, list the position, review resumes, schedule interviews, and make an offer can take weeks, if not months. With Lemon.io, you can cut down on a lot of that time by tapping into their wide network of developers who can get started in as early as a week.

    And for subscribers of Startups For the Rest of Us, you can get 15% off your first 4 week contract with a developer by visiting lemon.io/startups

    Topics we cover:

    • 2:38 - Naming your startup
    • 6:02 - How to know if you tapped out a specific niche?
    • 13:21 - Did you have an initial aha moment when you felt that this was the winning idea to start up?
    • 22:25 - How would you value your time if you have a client that is gonna be competing in the same space?

    Links from the Show:

    • MicroConf Europe

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you.

    Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher


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