Star Wars: Prototypes and Production

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216. Revisiting The Extraordinary 2022 Star Wars Celebration Anaheim Convention, Live From The Event! Apr 13, 2025

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Let’s step back in time, to another epic Celebration weekend: Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader, in the same room. The first massive gathering of Star Wars fans and collectors in three years. And a mountain of Star Wars-themed swag. This was the unforgettable event that was Star Wars Celebration Anaheim. Join host David Quinn as he revisits the Celebration weekend of 2022, through the lens of the collectors and fans who traveled out to Anaheim for the once-in-a-lifetime event! A sincere thank-you to Rob Amantea, Elon Bartlett D.C., Bill Cable, Paul Chu, Jarrod Clark, Mike De Stefano, FJ DeRobertis, Matt George, Justin Haynie, Mark Huber, Dora Huber, Duncan Jenkins, Tony Johnson, Jim Jones, Joe Kersavage Jr, Yehuda Kleinman, Maggie Moore, Gordy Owen, Jon Peck, Tom Quinn, Steven Rensi, Will Russ, Steve Sansweet, Amy Sjoberg, Jenn Thunders, Daniel Uthman, Brandon Vise and Mona Vise, Jason Wasulko, Glen Williams and everyone else who helped to make this episode happen. This is another example of why you need to attend Star Wars Celebration. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

215. Star Wars Celebration: Revisiting The History, The Magical Moments and Unforgettable Stories! Apr 09, 2025

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Have you ever dined with Chewbacca? Have you been in the same room with George Lucas, Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and John Williams? Have you encountered the Running of the Willrow Hoods? And do you know which item may have been the first swag from Star Wars Celebration? For Star Wars fans and collectors, there's nothing like the multi-day convention dedicated to George Lucas' creation and everything that goes with it. Join host David Quinn as he explores the history of Star Wars Celebration, and why it continues to be the best event in the galaxy! And hear from passionate fans and Star Wars collectors as they recount their once-in-a-lifetime stories from past conventions. This is the magic of Celebration. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

214. The Galactic Newsdesk: An EPIC Month Of Star Wars Collectibles, Updates And News You Need! Mar 30, 2025

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The latest Star Wars news is soaring through the galaxy at lightspeed. Which iconic original trilogy prop just sold at Propstore for more than $750,000? Why did George Lucas never finish his first live-action series? What does the latest Hake’s auction tell us about the vintage action figure market? Which panels and presentations await fans at Star Wars Celebration Japan? Surprisingly, how did Mara Jade recently return to the Star Wars universe? And that’s only the beginning…. Join host David Quinn for a fascinating series that explores Star Wars news from around the galaxy. From film and series updates to the collector-related reports, to news from the theme parks, the publishing world and more, this episode covers the stories you may have missed but need to know! This is the Galactic Newsdesk: March Edition. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

213. Kennedy's Exit Strategy: Analyzing What's REALLY Happening With Star Wars And Lucasfilm! Mar 23, 2025

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This is the episode Lucasfilm’s leader hopes you’ll ignore. Kathleen Kennedy recently responded to reports that she would be exiting her role as Lucasfilm’s president by the end of the year. But her Deadline interview revealed much more than Kennedy likely planned. Join host David Quinn for what may be the most in-depth analysis of that interview, and what’s really happening with the future of Star Wars and Lucasfilm: What is the succession timeline? Has Lucasfilm chosen a new leader? Which Star Wars projects are actually in development currently? And do Kennedy’s responses actually make a case for an executive change? This episode will provide a clearer perspective and a better understanding of what is really happening, and why a new era of the franchise is quickly approaching. This is a fascinating time to be a fan. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

212. The Galactic Newsdesk: A Season Of Change For Star Wars, Lucasfilm, Hasbro And Disney's Parks! Feb 26, 2025

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The year is off to a wild start in the Star Wars universe. Kathleen Kennedy is reportedly exiting Lucasfilm. Hasbro is adapting a new global strategy for its Star Wars toys. The future of Star Wars is at a true crossroads. And that’s just the tip of the galactic iceberg! Which iconic original trilogy props are hitting the auction block in March? Which A-list actor may helm the next Star Wars movie? Which decades-old character is set to make his canonical debut? And which theme park is about to celebrate the Season of the Force? Join host David Quinn for a fascinating series that explores Star Wars news from around the galaxy. From film and series updates to the collector-related reports, to news from the theme parks, the publishing world and more, this episode covers the stories you may have missed but need to know! This is the Galactic Newsdesk: February Edition. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

211. Why Toy Shows Matter: Five MAJOR Benefits For Star Wars Collectors! Feb 19, 2025

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Toy show season is almost here! With the return of weekend ventures to venues stocked with toys and collectibles, Star Wars collectors need to take note of something truly important: Toy shows matter. Whether you’re hunting for carded and loose Kenner figures, or the modern Hasbro lines, or the vast number of items bearing the Star Wars logo, a toy show may offer some of the best pieces at the best prices. But there are a number of benefits to these in-person events, ones that may change your life! Join host David Quinn for a look at the toy show experience, and how it positively impacts collecting and connecting within the Star Wars community. This is why toy shows matter. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

210. A Life With Luke Skywalker Revisited: The Impact Of Star Wars, The Memorabilia And Mark Hamill! Feb 12, 2025

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We all love Star Wars. But do you remember why you fell in love with it in the first place? In this special episode, join host David Quinn for a nostalgic journey through a life with Luke Skywalker, as recounted in the podcast’s very first episode from 2019! Revisit the unforgettable moments that Star Wars created during the era of the original trilogy. From the first action figures, to intricate Halloween costumes, to moments shared with family and friends, Star Wars shaped our childhoods in vibrant and lasting ways. Hear how the journey with Luke continued into adulthood for a fellow Star Wars fan and collector. And the episode reaches an incredible, life-changing climax: meeting the legendary lightsaber-wielding hero in person. This is the magic of memories, the power of storytelling, and a life lived in a galaxy, far, far away. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

209. Does The First Hake’s Sale Of The Jeff Jacob Collection Reflect The Current Star Wars Market? Jan 28, 2025

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World records, clear bubbles, high grades and a ton of acrylic. On January 22nd, Hake’s hosted the first sale of the Jeff Jacob collection, bringing in an impressive $1.45 million. And Star Wars collectors aggressively pursued the hundreds of action figures, vehicles, playsets and memorabilia, some of which were the rarest and highest graded examples in the world. And as Auction 1035 kicks off a new year of Star Wars collector events, what do the sales tell us about the current state of the collectors market? Is $105,000 for an Obi-Wan really surprising? Which items shockingly sold for prices that were multiples of their high estimates? What effect does grade, name recognition and curation have on sales? And what do collectors need to watch out for when bidding on graded items at these larger auctions? Join host David Quinn for a look at the results and trends of January’s Hake’s auction, through the history of past auctions, previous comparable sales, and information only hardcore collectors would know! This is how a Prune Face hammers at $7800. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

208. A "Star War" In 1975? Talking Star Wars Miniatures, Milestones And Meetups With Ron Salvatore! Jan 20, 2025

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Were the rumors true? Did the maker of a gaming miniatures figurine line originally own the rights to the Star Wars name? What is “Star War 2250,” and how did it premiere two years before George Lucas released his first Star Wars film in 1977? What is it like to celebrate 30 years of the most comprehensive and groundbreaking Star Wars collectors site? And what is it like to bring new information about beloved Star Wars action figures, prototypes and memorabilia to a community of collectors? Join host David Quinn for part two of a new collectors conversation series, as he chats with collector Ron Salvatore. Go deeper into previously unexplored topics, as Ron shares insights and information from the articles he’s written for the website The Star Wars Collectors Archive over the past year. Ron and David also discuss the exciting collector events they’ve attended together, and the ways in which meetups can profoundly impact friendships within the Star Wars community. This is a worthwhile continuation of a wonderful conversation. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

207. Say YES To Repro?? Exploring Kenner Repro Art And Star Wars Collectibles With Ron Salvatore! Jan 13, 2025

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If you grew up during the era of the original Star Wars trilogy, you’re probably more familiar with Kenner’s repro art than you may realize. From weekly newspaper ads to many of the images on cardbacks, cups, and Star Wars memorabilia, repro art presented the latest toys in an appealing way, enticing both children and parents to “collect them all.” And for Kenner, repro art standardized how these action figures and assorted items appeared in print across the country. So, how much do you know about repro? Join host David Quinn for part one of a new collectors conversation series, as he chats with collector Ron Salvatore. Dive deeper into previously unexplored topics, as Ron shares insights and information from the articles he’s written for the website The Star Wars Collectors Archive over the past year. Ron and David also discuss the exciting collector events they’ve attended together, and the ways in which meetups can profoundly impact friendships within the Star Wars community. This is the essence of collecting and connecting, and why Star Wars resonates with each of us. And this is Star Wars: Prototypes and Production! To Listen to the Episode on the Prototype Archives Site: https://www.prototypearchives.com/podcast Links to the Episode on Various Podcast Platforms: APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460 YOUTUBE MUSIC/PODCASTS: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7UruGWpd8qKrObL8-DSLekomB8GuB1VT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/744L0XQhmpXn2AZeaxUhOZ CASTBOX: https://castbox.fm/channel/Star-Wars%3A-Prototypes-and-Production-id1904296?utm_source=website&utm_medium=dlink&utm_campaign=web_share&utm_content=Star%20Wars%3A%20Prototypes%20and%20Production-CastBox_FM STITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1054209 PANDORA: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/PC:1001054209 PODBEAN: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/u4ywr-80960/ AMAZON MUSIC: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/c98fb265-c233-43d9-ae3b-1102bfb03e45/star-wars-prototypes-and-production PLAYERFM: https://player.fm/series/2473540 SOUNDCLOUD: https://soundcloud.com/david-quinn-908355451/tracks PODVINE: https://podvine.com/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production iHEART: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-star-wars-prototypes-and-p-31050806/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-prototypes-and-production/id1448205460

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