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    Source Code

    Welcome to Source Code, Protocol’s show about the people, power and politics of tech. Twice a week, we talk to the most important people, and about the most important stories, happening all over the world of tech.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Tech vs. researchers and DocuSign vs. everybody Mar 21, 2021
    Show notes

    Issie Lapowsky joins the show to talk about why researchers and social platforms want to work together, and why that’s a lot more complicated than it sounds. Then, Joe Williams explains why the digital signature industry is so hot right now, and where it goes from here.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • Issie Lapowsky on Twitter
    • Platforms vs. PhDs: How tech giants court and crush the people who study them
    • Joe Williams on Twitter
    • The e-signature war is going beyond the dotted line

    For all the links and stories, head to Source Code’s homepage.


    How a pipe-smoking alien became the 'digital Mona Lisa' Mar 17, 2021
    Show notes

    Two of the most important sales in NFT history happened last week: Beeple’s $69 million auction through Christie’s, and the $7.5 million sale of CryptoPunk #7804. Dylan Field, the CEO of Figma, was 7804’s previous owner. He joins the show to talk about what selling the punk meant to him, why crypto art is important — and why it’s booming right now — and where the real art lies.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • Dylan Field on Twitter
    • CryptoPunk #7804
    • LarvaLabs’ Autoglyph project
    • More on DAOs
    • How Dapper Labs scored NBA crypto millions
    • Beeple’s Everydays

    For all the links and stories, head to Source Code’s homepage.


    Hackers, trustbusters, and internet librarians Mar 14, 2021
    Show notes

    Joe Williams joins the show to talk about SolarWinds and the Hafnium hack, and what it means for the future of enterprise software (and for Microsoft). Then Emily Birnbaum explains who Tim Wu, Vanita Gupta and Lina Khan are and what they mean for the Biden administration’s antitrust plan. Finally, Anna Kramer discusses her story about the Internet Archive’s attempt to preserve the internet forever.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • Joe Williams on Twitter
    • Microsoft Exchange hack: China hacking group hits Microsoft
    • Emily Birnbaum on Twitter
    • 'She got into the weeds': Biden’s associate AG pick is a top tech watchdog
    • ‘This could be dangerous’: Why Tim Wu’s appointment has Big Tech rattled
    • A tiny team of House staffers could change the future of Big Tech
    • Anna Kramer on Twitter
    • The internet is splitting apart. The Internet Archive wants to save it all forever.

    For all the links and stories, head to Source Code’s homepage.


    How to avoid the next World War Mar 10, 2021
    Show notes

    Admiral Jim Stavridis and Elliot Ackerman join the show to talk about their book, “2034: A Novel of the Next World War,” and what the future holds for China, the U.S., cyberwarfare and hoverboards.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • “2034: A Novel of the Next World War”
    • Admiral James Stavridis on Twitter
    • Elliot Ackerman on Twitter
    • Wired’s six-part series of excerpts

    For all the links and stories, head to Source Code’s homepage.


    Square buys Tidal, App store laws, and Microsoft AR Mar 07, 2021
    Show notes

    First, an update on the Google ad-tracking change. Then Ben Pimentel joins the show to discuss Square buying Tidal, and what it means for the fintech and music worlds. Later, Emily Birnbaum explains the bill moving through the Arizona legislature that has Google and Apple worried about the future of app stores. And finally, Janko Roettgers discusses Microsoft Mesh, the state of AR and VR headsets, and when we’re all going to be doing meetings as holograms.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • Ben Pimentel on Twitter
    • Jack Dorsey is so money: What Tidal and banking do for Square
    • Emily Birnbaum on Twitter
    • Apple and Google lobbyists are swarming Arizona over a bill that would reform the app store
    • Virginia becomes second state with comprehensive privacy law
    • Janko Roettgers on Twitter
    • Microsoft’s master plan for consumer AR: Start with the plumbing
    • How Microsoft Could Beat Facebook In AR

    For all the links and stories, head to Source Code’s homepage.


    Google's vision for the future of work Mar 04, 2021
    Show notes

    Javier Soltero, the head of Google Workspace, joins the show to talk about his ideas about the future of work, building software that helps bosses and employees, work-life balance, privacy, and why calendars matter much more than you might think.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • Javier Soltero on Twitter
    • Google’s recent Workspace announcements
    • David’s interview with Javier from last year

    For all the links and stories, head to Source Code’s homepage.


    Vaccine passports, Facebook in Australia, and chess on Twitch Feb 28, 2021
    Show notes

    Mike Murphy joins the show to talk about the tech industry's push for vaccine passports. Then Issie Lapowsky talks about Facebook's latest moves in Australia, before Hirsh Chitkara joins to discuss how chess became a streaming giant.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • Mike on Twitter
    • Blockchain, QR codes and your phone: the race to build vaccine passports
    • Issie on Twitter
    • Facebook says it gladly pays for news, but rejects 'open ended subsidies'
    • Facebook made a deal to get news back in Australia
    • Hirsh on Twitter
    • How Chess.com built a streaming empire

    For all the links and stories, head to Source Code’s homepage.


    Citizen’s plan to keep people safe (and beat COVID) with an app Feb 24, 2021
    Show notes

    Andrew Frame is the CEO of Citizen, an app meant to help people know more about what’s going on in their community. Citizen has been scrutinized for enabling voyeurs, encouraging people to put themselves in danger, and glorifying crime through livestreaming videos. But Frame said that’s not how Citizen works, and that it actually just helps people stay safe and aware.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • Citizen’s website
    • Vice’s rundown of the criticism of Citizen
    • More on Citizen’s COVID-tracking software
    • How Citizen played a role in solving an SF kidnapping

    For all the links and stories, head to Source Code’s homepage.


    Facebook bails on Australia and Airbnb heads to Atlanta Feb 21, 2021
    Show notes

    Issie Lapowsky dissects what's happening between Facebook, Google and the Australian government. Then Anna Kramer joins to explain why Atlanta is the next big US tech hub.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • Issie on Twitter
    • Facebook blocks all news in and from Australia
    • Anna on Twitter
    • Airbnb is building a new hub in Atlanta

    For all the links and stories, head to

    Source Code’s homepage.


    Bumble’s IPO, digital books and PayPal’s future Feb 14, 2021
    Show notes

    Hirsh Chitkara on Bumble’s big IPO, Anna Kramer on Libby and the future of digital books, and Tomio Geron PayPal’s plan to win the future of finance.

    For more on the topics in this episode:

    • Hirsh on Twitter
    • Bumble IPO: Everything you need to know
    • Anna on Twitter
    • Libby is stuck between libraries and e-book publishers
    • Tomio on Twitter
    • PayPal wants to be an all-in-one super app. It has its work cut out.

    For all the links and stories, head to Source Code’s homepage.


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