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Short & Curly — Kids & Family
Short & Curly

Short & Curly is the fun and educational ABC Kids and Family podcast that makes philosophy and ethics easy, entertaining, and thought-provoking. Hosted by Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith, the show explores big questions for kids about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty, and art.

Perfect for kids aged 8–12, Short & Curly is loved by families, parents, and teachers worldwide. One of the best kids shows for curious minds, it inspires learning, laughter, and big ideas that help children learn how to think, not what to think.

Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children’s content.

Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

Classroom Resources: Listen to the podcast in the classroom or as homework and use these resources to explore and expand upon the diverse themes and subjects covered in the show.

Copyright: © Copyright 2024, Australian Broadcasting Corporation. All right reserved.

Latest Episodes:

Finders keepers Oct 02, 2026

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We’re travelling back to the stellar 1970s and Carl has spotted a totally far-out skateboard seemingly abandoned at the local skate park. Can he just… take it? When does finders keepers apply, and how much do we need to worry about the ‘losers weepers’ bit?

Should you be forced to keep learning a musical instrument? Oct 01, 2026

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Molly’s newly adopted son Carl Smith Hyphen Daniels Jnr does NOT want to play the violin. He says it’s boring, and hurts his fingers. But Mamma Molly knows best. Why is it that parents can tell us what to do?

The Tragedy of Commonalia Sep 30, 2026

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Commonalia is an idyllic paradise, and all the happy pixies that call Commonalia home spend their days exploring the grand forest. The trees of the forest have healing powers, their seeds can be used for medicine, and their branches used to build furniture and homes. But one day soon, the forest will disappear and Commonalia will be destroyed. What could possibly go wrong? And whose fault is it?

Is the number 5 real? Sep 29, 2026

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You can see 5 dogs playing in a park, you can hold 5 lollies, and you can be 5 years old. But is the number 5 itself real? Molly, Carl and Eleanor head on a road trip to find the number 5, and try to figure out what it even means for something to be real.

Zombies Right to Life Sep 28, 2026

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After five years of brutal fighting, Carl and Molly have defeated all the zombies on planet Earth, including the zombified version of their Producer, Kyla. But is that zombie still Kyla? And what would it mean if that zombie was Kyla… should that make a difference to how we treat them?

Wait... they didn't pay Indigenous workers and they stole their land? Sep 16, 2026

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Short & Curly will be back very soon, but while you're waiting you should check out the podcast Wait... They Did What!?

Just like Short and Curly, Wait... They Did What!? examines some ethical conundrums and questionable behaviour. Like in the 1960s when Indigenous people were forced to work practically for free on land that was stolen from them.

Hosted by Tilly Oddy-Black and Issac Muller, Wait... They Did What!? Takes us back in time to when kids were allowed to let off fireworks, seatbelts weren’t compulsory and teachers could even hit kids!

For more great kids podcasts, download the free ABC listen app (Australia). There you’ll find more kids news podcasts, educational children’s stories and storytelling, podcasts from your favourite characters like Bluey and Hey Duggee and plenty more of the best kids podcasts like Imagine This, Dino Dome and News Time. For all ages from 0–4-year-olds, 5–8-year-olds, 8–10-year-olds, tweens and teens. And you can watch our kids shows on ABC iview and on the ABC Kids and ABC Big Kids channels of YouTube kids.

BITES – Being forced to step out of your comfort zone? Jul 17, 2026

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It feels soooo nice staying in your comfort zone – it's so comfortable there! But stepping and stretching outside your comfort zone is an important part of life. Is it right when schools or parents push us to do things outside our comfort zone, before we’re ready? Or is a gentle push sometimes the only thing that will get us moving?

BITES – Is it fair if siblings get the same things at different ages? Jul 16, 2026

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It was supposed to be the greatest day of Carl’s life – finally, his parents said he was old enough to go on the big dipper ride at the fun park. But! Carl’s parents let his little sister go on the ride the same day! Is it fair that she only had to wait to be 8-years-old, but Carl had to wait to be 10? How do we tell the difference between something being truly unfair, and something just... making us feel jealous?

BITES – Getting annoyed when people don’t say your name properly? Jul 15, 2026

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Names are really important things – they form such a big part of our identities. But for people with less common names, or names with uncommon spellings, it can get really exhausting constantly correcting people's pronunciation. How important is it that we pronounce people's names correctly, and how annoyed can we be when people get ours wrong?

BITES – Do adults-only areas discriminate against children? Jul 14, 2026

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There are heaps of seemingly cool places that kids aren’t allowed to visit – fancy resorts, or sometimes even rock concerts. Most of the time we accept these rules, but are they actually unfair? And if we were to let kids into adult places, would we have to start letting adults in kids' spaces?

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