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    Education

    Shop Talk: A podcast for the beauty industry, hairstylists and hair-salon owners. By 124Go

    An educational podcast to help salon professionals succeed.
    Created by the founders of 124Go.

    A learning podcast for hairstylists, salon and spa owners, salon managers, cosmetology students, and spa professionals. In this podcast Co-hosts, Chris Sulimay and John Palmieri of @salon124group and @124.go have conversations with some of the salon industries most prolific educators, salon owners and beauty industry social media influencers.

    Shop Talk has one mission, to share information to the ambitious salon professional and cosmetology student that they can use to grow their career !

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    Latest Episodes:
    What’s it like to grow 9 salons? Ask Lorean Cairns owner of Fox and Jane Salons and Skin Habit Feb 20, 2023
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    What’s it like to grow 9 salons and two skin spas? Just ask Lorean Cairns co-founder of Fox and Jane Salons and Skin Habit.

    To think her journey as an owner started under 10 years ago is miraculous! In this conversation, Lorean shares her philosophies on leadership, culture, coaching and her plans for the future. This is a conversation for every level of salon professional.

    Say Hi to Lorean https://loreancairns.com/ @loreancairns

    Purchase Culture Fox https://www.amazon.com/Culture-Fox-Cultivate-Culture-International/dp/1544502311

    Check out Fox and Jane salons https://foxandjanesalon.com/bowery/

    Say hi to John on social: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!







    She Doubled Her Prices / Rachael Ford and Work-Life Balance Feb 13, 2023
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    She Doubled Her Prices!

    In this very special episode John and Chris interview Rachael Ford, and Rachael represents well, a lot of you - and if you're new to the career - she represents what your future might look like.

    You see Rachael is a hairstylist and the owner of an 8 chair salon. She is also a mother with five ranging from college to toddler, a wife - a homemaker… You get the picture.

    This year Rachael finally had enough, one day - maybe while doing dishes or picking up toys she decided something had to give.. She needed to make some changes if she was going to be happy and sustain..

    After going down a rabbit hole of self discovery - she decided to do something drastic!

    Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com

    4-day intensive of 2023, in Atlanta, GA, May 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th. - Apply go to https://124go.com or email us @ info@124go.com Trust me, you don’t want to miss this!

    • The top strategies that Brian Perdue used to grow from 4 hairstylists to 6 salons and over 140 hairstylists.
    • Get hand fed the systems and processes that salon 124 uses every day to be one of the most successful salon groups in the country.
    • This is a no holds barred event where we share all of the secrets to help you grow your salon - no matter the size.

    Say hi to John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone.https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!







    J Ladner Pt. 2 / How to Feel Like You are Enough / Showing Up, Being open to Education, Mentorship and Experience Feb 06, 2023
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    J Ladner Pt. 2 - How to Feel Like You are Enough / Showing Up / Being open to Education, Mentorship and Experience

    In this episode J dives deeper into the stylist career journey and why being open to education and mentorship early in your career is so important.

    He also leaves us with some beautiful final words - so be sure to listen until the end!

    • If you haven't met J here’s a bit more about him - he is an accomplished hair and makeup artist with experience in film, television, theatre, print and digital media.
    • Recognized as Modern Salon’s 2019 Top 100,
    • American Influencer Awards 2020 Emerging Hairstylist of the Year Nominee, J is also a successful entrepreneur, educator, digital author,
    • Digital Creative Director of Oligo Professionnel
    • Hosts the No Stylist Left Behind podcast with Nina Tulio.

    Connect with J - https://www.jladner.com

    4-Day Intensive of 2023. That happens May 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th, here in sunny Atlanta. To register, go to https://124go.com or email us at info@124go.com Trust me, you don’t want to miss this!

    • The top strategies that the Salon 124 Group used to grow from 4 hairstylists to 6 salons, 140 hairstylists and 10 Million Dollars in Sales.
    • Get hand fed the systems and processes that salon 124 uses every day to be one of the most successful salon groups in the country.
    • This is a no holds barred event where we share all of the secrets to help you grow your salon - no matter the size.

    Say hi on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone.https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!







    Adapt And Evolve: Having Grit In The Face Of Change With J Ladner | Episode 244 Jan 30, 2023
    Show notes

    “Be vulnerable with them, and the magic will exist”


    Hello everyone, it’s John here – welcome back to the Shop Talk Podcast, the educational podcast for salon pros looking to elevate their craft.


    This is Part 1 of our conversation with J Ladner, and I promise you, it’s going to be incredible!


    J, a bundle of energy, is the Digital Creative Director for Oligo Pro and the Founder of J Ladner Education. He is also the co-host of the No Stylist Left Behind Podcast, alongside Nina Tulio.


    Although relatively young in his career, J has achieved a lot:

    • Starting in Tampa, FL, J and his husband moved to North Dakota, where they opened J Ladner Salon and quickly became the talk of the town.
    • After seven years of ownership, they sold the salon and followed their dreams to LA, where they reside today.


    In this conversation, J discusses:

    • Building credibility and drawing on your experience
    • Asking difficult questions and leaning into your vulnerability
    • Waking up to change


    We loved this conversation and know you will too!


    Connect With J:

    • Website: https://www.jladner.com
    • Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint: https://www.124goacademy.com


    Salon owners and managers, attend the amazing 4-Day Intensive happening this May (May 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th).

    • Register: https://124go.com
    • Email us: info@124go.com


    Learn the top strategies the Salon 124 Group used to grow:

    • From 4 hairstylists to 6 salons
    • To 140 hairstylists and over $10 million in sales


    Get exclusive access to the systems and processes Salon 124 uses daily to be one of the most successful salon groups in the country. This is a no-holds-barred event where we share all the secrets to help you grow your salon – no matter the size.


    Say Hi On Social

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/124.go


    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager, or beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!


    Never Wanna Grow Up by Katrina Stone (Listen here)


    Thank you for stopping by!


    Vivian Mackinder / Icon and Founder of Hairdesigner TV / Intention Equals Power Jan 09, 2023
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    Intention Equals Power / Vivian Mackinder / Icon and Founder Hairdesigner TV

    Vivian Mackinder is an Icon in the beauty industry (and she is just getting started). A master reinventer, and pilgrim of online education Vivian has taught and inspired millions of hair stylists around the globe. In this episode she shares her philosophy for success and her keys to becoming a master hairstylist.

    Say hi to John on social: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone.

    https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa..

    Thank you for stopping by!


    Jay Williams v.3 / Better Thinking - Better Choices - Better Leader Dec 26, 2022
    Show notes

    Jay Williams may be the most prolific thought leader in the salon industry. In this conversation, Jay schools John and Chris on how to better lead yourself and influence others in such our fast-shifting 2020 environment.

    There is so much packed into this episode - you may have to listen twice!

    Connect with Jay Williams https://www.instagram.com/jaywilliamsco/

    Purchase This VS That and Leave Your Mark (all profits go to helping stop human trafficking) https://www.jaywilliamsco.com/the-book

    Say hi to John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!







    Tamera Czarnowski / Owner - Salon True / Vulnerability, Resilience & Finding What Works for You Dec 23, 2022
    Show notes

    Tamera is a salon owner, hair stylist, and author who's been in the industry for over 20 years. Through working towards bringing my vision to life. She strives to create a unique experience to the clients at True.

    "I wanted it to be a place where everyone felt beautiful and luxurious, while still maintaining affordability." This was the inception of Salon True. "Our clients are our extended family; when you enter the salon, you feel like you are home."

    I am committed to empowering the men, women and young adults around me, and often hold seminars and events at the salon in order to accomplish this. 'Speak Our Language' is a book I wrote in 2007 to help clients communicate to their stylist. Those tips still stay 'true' today.

    Say hi to John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone.https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…



    Pepper Pastor - Part 2 / Candor and Resilience Dec 05, 2022
    Show notes

    This Episode is part two of Pepper Pastor and she is amazing. Pepper is an artist in her soul who became fascinated with human behavior and in her spare time of being a busy salon professional, Global educator, a mother and wife with a life, She went to school and is finishing her PHD in organizational psychology.. In this part of the conversation Pepper really shares how to be more effective in your communications by using curiosity, learning candor and developing resilience. Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com Say hi to John on social: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/ If you’re a hairdresser, salon/spa owner, salon manager or beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!! Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa… Thank you for stopping by! - John


    Pepper Pastor - Part 1 / Understanding Creativity and the Strengths & Weaknesses that come with it. Nov 28, 2022
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    In this episode Pepper Pastor Salon professional and Organizational Psychologist shares lessons from her journey and studies in Creativity. Say Hi to Pepper on social - https://www.instagram.com/pepperpastor/ Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com Say hi to John on social: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/ If you’re a hairdresser, salon/spa owner, salon manager or beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!! Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa… Thank you for stopping by! - John


    Christine Zilinski l Empowered Salon Leaders Nov 14, 2022
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    Christine Zilinski is a lifetime salon pro who has devoted her career to technical mastery and growth as a leader. She and her partners have developed a mastermind group for like-minded stylists, salon owners, and leaders.

    https://www.instagram.com/christinezilinski/

    https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=empowered%20salon%20leaders

    Email Christine @ salonconcrete@gmail.com

    YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzJI27t8iHRRbSIgv2EBrxw

    Say hi to John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!







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