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    Education

    Shop Talk: A podcast for the beauty industry, hairstylists and hair-salon owners. By 124Go

    An educational podcast to help salon professionals succeed.
    Created by the founders of 124Go.

    A learning podcast for hairstylists, salon and spa owners, salon managers, cosmetology students, and spa professionals. In this podcast Co-hosts, Chris Sulimay and John Palmieri of @salon124group and @124.go have conversations with some of the salon industries most prolific educators, salon owners and beauty industry social media influencers.

    Shop Talk has one mission, to share information to the ambitious salon professional and cosmetology student that they can use to grow their career !

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    Latest Episodes:
    Disrupting Beauty With CLEARSTEM Skincare With Danielle Gronich And Kayleigh Christina Sep 21, 2026
    Show notes

    Struggling with persistent cystic acne can feel like an endless, exhausting battle against your own body. If you’ve tried every prescription, laser, and cream only to find yourself back at square one, it’s time to look beyond the surface and discover the power of Clearstem Skincare. In this episode, guests Danielle Gronich and Kayleigh Christina, the co-founders of CLEARSTEM, dive deep into the real root causes of breakouts, from hidden dietary triggers to pore-clogging ingredients in your daily routine. They share their inspiring journey of bootstrapping a revolutionary, non-toxic brand that targets both acne and aging simultaneously, while offering a refreshing look at how conscious communication and executive coaching keep their partnership thriving.


    For information on coaching and in-salon classes, email Info@124Go.com.


    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/124GO/


    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager, or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review HERE!

    Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    Thanks for stopping by!


    Save your seat for Leading Forward at https://leadership.124go.com/

    Use the coupon code keune to get $400 off your ticket price


    Fancy Hairdressers Jacob Kahn and Ben White Sep 14, 2026
    Show notes

    The beauty and hair styling industry is undergoing a massive shift, moving away from corporate brand gatekeepers and sliding toward a future shaped by independent artists who value authenticity and simplicity. For stylists looking to thrive in this new landscape, finding high-quality, practical resources is essential, and that is where fancy hairdressers come in to bridge the gap. In this episode, we sit down with Jacob Kahn and Ben White, the passionate educators and co-founders behind Fancy Hairdressers, to dive deep into the evolution of salon business models and modern hair cutting education. They share invaluable insights on transitioning from commission structures to booth rental options, the realities of balancing a career behind the chair with outside passions, and why keeping hair styling straightforward and approachable is the ultimate key to client satisfaction.

    For information on coaching and in-salon classes, email Info@124Go.com.


    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/124GO/


    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager, or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review HERE!

    Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go/


    Thanks for stopping by!




    Save your seat for Leading Forward at https://leadership.124go.com/

    Use the coupon code keune to get $400 off your ticket price


    Decoding Salon Software With John Harms Sep 07, 2026
    Show notes

    Running a successful salon or spa requires far more than artistic talent—it demands a deep understanding of business numbers, customer retention, and modern salon management software. In this episode, John Harms, founder and majority owner of Millennium Systems International, shares how four decades of hands-on experience shaped Meevo, one of the beauty industry's leading software platforms. From creating the first multi-step computerized appointment book to leveraging AI for real-time business insights, John reveals the key metrics that drive exponential growth, the power of frequency of visit, and why maintaining a client-first culture is essential for long-term success.


    For information on coaching and in-salon classes email, Info@124Go.com.


    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/124GO/


    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager, or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review HERE!

    Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go/


    Thanks for stopping by!




    Achieving Salon Business Growth With Gina Bianca | EP 308 Mar 31, 2025
    Show notes

    A thriving salon business is not just about great hair. It is also about business growth and creating an amazing experience clients keep coming back to. John Palmieri chats with Gina Bianca about the reality of salon ownership, the shift to a hybrid salon model, and what it takes to retain both clients and stylists. From pricing challenges to leadership struggles, they break down the lessons every salon owner needs to succeed. Plus, Gina shares her personal journey of growth, the importance of healing as a leader, and why strong systems—not just talent—drive long-term success.


    Say hi to John on social:

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/124GO


    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager, or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review HERE!


    Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go


    Thanks for stopping by!


    Save your seat for Leading Forward at https://leadership.124go.com/

    Use the coupon code keune to get $400 off your ticket price


    How Great Salon Leaders Build A Legacy That Lasts With Philip Barrington Feb 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Leadership and legacy are the foundation of a thriving salon business. In this episode of Shop Talk, host John Palmieri sits down with financial advisor Philip Barrington to discuss how salon owners can step into leadership roles, build a lasting legacy, and secure their financial future. Philip shares insights on mentorship, creating a culture of excellence, and the business strategies that help salons grow beyond just day-to-day operations. They also cover why financial planning is often overlooked in the beauty industry and how salon owners can take control of their business finances to ensure long-term stability. If you’re a stylist or salon owner looking to lead with confidence, grow your business, and create financial security, this episode is packed with actionable takeaways.


    For information on coaching and in-salon classes email, Info@124Go.com


    Say hi to John on social:

    Instagram: @124.go | @noindoorvoice

    Facebook: 124GO


    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager, or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review HERE!!


    Follow us on Instagram.


    Thanks for stopping by!


    Save your seat for Leading Forward at https://leadership.124go.com/

    Use the coupon code keune to get $400 off your ticket price


    Scalp Cooling: Keeping Hair And Hope Alive With Bethany Hornthal Feb 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Scalp cooling is revolutionizing the cancer journey for many, and Bethany Hornthal is one of those people leading the charge. In this conversation, the executive director and co-founder of HairToStay dives into the empowering option of unique procedure. Learn how scalp cooling minimizes hair loss during chemotherapy and how HairToStay is working to make it accessible to all cancer patients regardless of cost. Bethany also shares her inspiring journey, the science behind scalp cooling, and how the hair care industry can support this important cause.


    For information on coaching and in-salon classes email, Info@124Go.com

    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram: @124.go | @noindoorvoice

    Facebook: 124GO


    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager, or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review HERE!!


    Follow us on Instagram.

    Thanks for stopping by!


    Save your seat for Leading Forward at https://leadership.124go.com/

    Use the coupon code keune to get $400 off your ticket price


    Creating A Thriving Salon Culture With Amber Pope Feb 03, 2025
    Show notes

    What does it take to build an exceptional salon culture? Join John Palmieri and Chris Sulimay as they chat with Amber Pope, owner of Salon 27, who shares her incredible journey to becoming a passionate and thriving salon owner. Amber opens up about the many challenges and various triumphs of building a business, leading a well-rounded team, and cultivating a salon culture centered around support, growth, and genuine connection. Tune in to discover actionable strategies for creating the right salon environment where stylists flourish and clients feel truly cared for.


    For information on coaching and in-salon classes email, Info@124Go.com.

    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram: @124.go | @noindoorvoice

    Facebook: 124GO


    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager, or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review HERE!

    Follow us on Instagram.


    Thanks for stopping by!


    Save your seat for Leading Forward at https://leadership.124go.com/

    Use the coupon code keune to get $400 off your ticket price


    Digital Marketing And SEO Tips To Boost Your Salon’s Brand With Lucas Renfroe Jan 27, 2025
    Show notes

    Digital marketing and SEO optimization are buzzwords thrown around when talking about building your brand online. But how do you know when to invest and where? Here to share his expertise is Lucas Renfroe. Lucas is a founding partner of Salon.Marketing, a digital marketing agency specializing in the salon and spa industry. He is also a founding partner of Roots Southern Salon in Savannah, GA. In this episode, Lucas sits down with our hosts, Jenn Yeager and Lindsey Young, to share practical tips on boosting your salon’s branding and attracting more clients in the digital sphere. In addition, he touches on building your website, the importance of generating reviews, when to pay ads, and how to grow your business continually. Join in to get valuable business insight to help your salon’s exponential growth.


    Lindsey Young / From suite renter to salon owner Mar 06, 2023
    Show notes

    Is this the Salon Model of the Future - Lindsey Young Talks Quality Over Quantity

    In this conversation Lindsey Young, Owner of Luna Salon and Masters of Balayage Trainer, shares why she is choosing quality over quantity to grow her salon and how it is attracting the perfect stylists for their salon culture.

    She also shares lessons she is learning transitioning from behind the chair to full time owner.

    Connect with Lindsey - https://www.instagram.com/lunasalontally/

    http://thelunasalon.com

    https://www.mastersofbalayage.com

    To attend the 4-day virtual salon owner/manager workshop email us! Info@124go.com

    Say hi to John on social: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon/spa manager or beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!


    Jack Martin l A colorful conversaton Feb 27, 2023
    Show notes

    If you haven’t seen the work of this incredible, and humble human being than you are in for a treat! In this conversation, John and Chris give Jack the title of Hair Color Transformation King of the World. He is a multiple-time Behind the Chair #OneShot finalist. And WE GOT HIM TO SHARE ALL OF HIS SECRETS!

    Jack began his career, in his home country of Syria and France before coming to the United States where he met his wife (a hairdresser as well). After years of working and refining their craft, Jack saw the opportunity on Social Media… The rest is history and for you to enjoy by listening to this inspiring conversation.

    Follow Jack https://www.instagram.com/jackmartincolorist/

    If you enjoyed this podcast please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Follow us on the Social Media:

    https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://124go.com/

    Or email us @info@124Go.com

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa...


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