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    Education

    Shop Talk: A podcast for the beauty industry, hairstylists and hair-salon owners. By 124Go

    An educational podcast to help salon professionals succeed.
    Created by the founders of 124Go.

    A learning podcast for hairstylists, salon and spa owners, salon managers, cosmetology students, and spa professionals. In this podcast Co-hosts, Chris Sulimay and John Palmieri of @salon124group and @124.go have conversations with some of the salon industries most prolific educators, salon owners and beauty industry social media influencers.

    Shop Talk has one mission, to share information to the ambitious salon professional and cosmetology student that they can use to grow their career !

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    J Ladner @itsmrjladner Pt. 2 - How to Feel Like You are Enough | Showing Up | Being open to Education, Mentorship and Experience Sep 20, 2021
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    J Ladner @itsmrjladner Pt. 2 - How to Feel Like You are Enough | Showing Up | Being open to Education, Mentorship and Experience

    In this episode J dives deeper into the stylist career journey and why being open to education and mentorship early in your career is so important.

    He also leaves us with some beautiful final words - so be sure to listen until the end!


    Connect with J - https://www.jladner.com

    Salon owner, what if I told you We created the most thorough online course for salon owners in the business to help you grow your business, gain access to the exact strategies that salon 124 group uses to be one of the most successful independently owned salon groups in the country.. Visit 124Goacademy.com to join the movement for profitable salons.

    Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com

    September 26 - 27 - Nikki Le and Geno Stampora host Mentor and Masters at the turf valley resort https://www.facebook.com/mentorandmasters

    https://www.mentorandmasters.com

    4-day intensive of 2021. That happens over two weekends Nov 7-8 - 14-15 - Apply go to https://124go.com or email us @ info@124go.com for just $1595, we allow up to 3 people of your choosing to attend. Trust me, you don’t want to miss this!


    Everyone that has taken that course on zoom has loved the convenience and candidness that we share..

    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!


    TBT - Intention Equals Power | Vivian Mackinder | Icon and Founder Hairdesigner TV Sep 16, 2021
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    Intention Equals Power | Vivian Mackinder | Icon and Founder Hairdesigner TV Vivian Mackinder is an Icon in the beauty industry (and she is just getting started). A master reinventer, and pilgrim of online education Vivian has taught and inspired millions of hair stylists around the globe. In this episode she shares her philosophy for success and her keys to becoming a master hairstylist. Connect with Vivian and Join Hairdesigner TV https://www.hairdesignertv.com https://www.facebook.com/VivienneMackinder https://www.instagram.com/hairdesignertv/ Say hi to Chris and John on social: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ https://www.instagram.com/chrissulimayhair/ https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/ If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!! Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ / Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa… Thank you for stopping by! Chris and John


    Adapt and Evolve | Having Grit in the face of Change | @itsmrjladner Sep 13, 2021
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    Adapt and evolve | Having Grit in the face of Change | @itsmrjladner

    “Be vulnerable with them and the magic will exist”

    Hello everyone it’s John here - welcome back to the Shop Talk Podcast, thw educational podcast for salon pros looking to up their game.

    This is part 1 of our conversation with J Ladner and I promise you it’s gonna be wicked good

    J, who is a bundle of energy - - is the digital creative director for Oligo pro and Founder of J Ladner Education. He is also the cohost along with Nina Tulio onj the No-Stylist left behind podcast.

    Even for being relatively young in his career J has done quite a LOT – Starting in Tampa Fl – Jay and his husband moved to North Dakota where they opened J Ladner Salon and quickly became the talk of the town. After 7 years of ownership, they sold the salon, and following their dreams, moved to LA where they reside today.

    In this conversation with J discuss:

    · Building credibility and drawing on your experience

    · Asking difficult questions and leaning into your vulnerability

    · Waking up to change

    Chris and I loved this conversation and know you will too!

    Connect with J - https://www.jladner.com

    Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com

    September 26 - 27 - Nikki Le and Geno Stampora host Mentor and Masters at the turf valley resort https://www.facebook.com/mentorandmasters

    https://www.mentorandmasters.com

    Salon owners and Managers attend the Final virtual 4-day intensive of 2021. That happens over two weekends Nov 7-8 - 14-15 - Apply go to https://124go.com or email us @ info@124go.com for just 1595, we allow up to 3 people of your choosing to attend. Trust me, you don’t want to miss this!


    Everyone that has taken that course on zoom has loved the convenience and candidness that we share..

    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!


    TBT - Sustainable Luxury and being a High Performing Stylist | Benjamin Novak Hudgins Sep 09, 2021
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    Benjamin Novak Hudgins is Founder and CEO of Novak Hair Studios. As a nationally-recognized hairstylist with over 18 years of industry experience, Hudgins uses his expertise to inspire Novak’s 90+ Luxury Solo Artists in two unique locations throughout North Texas. His work has been displayed at New York fashion week, the Mercedes-Benz tent at Swim Week Miami, and on stages and classrooms across the US. He has been the preferred stylist of many contestants in a variety of pageant systems and the go-to beauty pro for high profile/celebrity clients across the nation. From Hudgins’ early career in the competitive pageant world, Novak Hair Studios has carried that tradition by proudly serving as an official sponsor of Mrs. Texas America and Mrs. Oklahoma America. Hudgins’ foundation in life and work are to build a better life, while actively creating a better and more beautiful planet. Benjamin’s passion for hair began at a young age when he would steal his sister’s Collection Edition Barbies to style their hair. No longer styling barbies, he can be found at his small Texas ranch aptly named the “Hudgins Honey Bee Ranch” with husband Justin Hudgins and their chickens, ducks, bees, and Scottish Highland cows - Edna, Walter, and baby Otis. Connect with Ben https://www.instagram.com/benatnovaks/ And at https://novakhairstudios.com Say hi to Chris and John on social: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ https://www.instagram.com/chrissulimayhair/ https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/ If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!! Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ / Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa… Thank you for stopping by! Chris and John


    Commitment and Having Tough Conversations | It’s Not What You Say It’s How You Say It | Are we Losing Sight of What Flexibility Really Means @kimsclfani1 Sep 06, 2021
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    Commitment and Having Tough Conversations | It’s Not What You Say It’s How You Say It | Are we Losing Sight of What Flexibility Really Means @kimsclfani1

    This episode is part 2 of Multiple salon owner and Loreal National Artists. Kim Sciafani Her salons are called Color Cafe Hair Studios in Greenwich and Norwalk Connecticut.


    In this Episode we dive deeper into


    Salon owners and Managers attend the Final virtual 4-day intensive of 2021 to

    That happens over two weekends Nov 7-8 - 14-15 - Apply go to https://124go.com or email us @ info@124go.com for just 1595, we allow up to 3 people of your choosing to attend. Trust me, you don’t want to miss this!


    Everyone that has taken that course on zoom has loved the convenience and candidness that we share..

    September 26 - 27 - Nikki Le and Geno Stampora host Mentor and Masters at the turf valley resort https://www.facebook.com/mentorandmasters

    https://www.mentorandmasters.com

    Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com

    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!


    Service is Service | Manners | Scripting and More | Tammy Cosper COO @Salon124Group Sep 02, 2021
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    Hey salon pro happy throwback. This is one of our all time favorite conversations with a very special and impactful woman. Her name is Tammy Cosper and she is the Chief Operations Officer for the salon 124 group.. Lot of people out there claiming to be a #ladyboss well Tammy’s got the resume to prove it… More on that in a moment..

    One thing John and I realize we are not doing such a great job informing you all about is where we’ll be and what we have going on in the upcoming months..

    So here’s three fast things - 1 - September 12-13 - DATA DRIVEN SUMMIT IN CHICAGO -- We’re not on the roster but will be doing podcast interviews with some of the keynote speakers. https://www.datadrivensalon.com

    September 26 - 27 - Nikki Le and Geno Stampora host Mentor and Masters at the turf valley resort -- https://www.mentorandmasters.com

    Finally we’ll be hosting our last virtual 4-day intensive of 2021. https://124go.com or email us info@124go.com

    This is where we cover the top strategies that brian and Karen Perdue used to grow from 4 hairstylists to 6 salons and over 120 hairstylists. This is a no holds barred event where we share all of the secrets to help you grow your salon - no matter the size. That’s November 7-8 and 14-15.. Everyone that has taken that course on zoom has loved the convenience and candidness that we share.. You can find links to all of those events in the show notes…

    You are about to join in an edited down version of episode # 2 of Shop Talk.. As I mentioned Tammy has a rich professional background and I consider her one of the foremost experts on a lot of things in business, her we discuss


    One more thing I need to say - in these early episodes we were a little less refined with the sound quality. We appreciate you bearing with us -

    Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com

    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!


    Stepping Up Your Game |Being Drama Free | Focus on your Client | Kim Scalfani @kimsclafani1 Aug 30, 2021
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    Stepping Up Your Game |Being Drama Free | Focus on your Client | Kim Scalfani @kimsclafani1

    In this episode John and I sat down with Multiple salon owner and Loreal National Artists. Kim Sciafani Her salons are called Color Cafe Hair Studios in Greenwich and Norwalk Connecticut.

    When we asked her what she’s learned in her 30 years in the salon industry she said,


    In this episode we talked about


    Next Monday for Part 2 of this


    Follow Kim on Instagram

    https://www.instagram.com/kimsclafani1/

    https://www.instagram.com/colorcafehairstudio/

    Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com

    Debora Routhe Full Strands Course https://fullstrands.teachable.com/?affcode=930134_yaae7kaj - Use the Code SHOPTALK15 for 15% off of your purchase.

    The American Hair Loss Annual Conference 2021 - https://ahlc.org/annualconference/

    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/chrissulimayhair/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ /

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!

    Chris and John


    TBT - Better Thinking | Better Choices | Better Leader | Jay Williams @Jayeilliamsco Aug 26, 2021
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    Jay Williams may be the most prolific thought leader in the salon industry. In this conversation, Jay schools John and Chris on how to better lead yourself and influence others in such our fast-shifting 2020 environment. There is so much packed into this episode - you may have to listen twice! Connect with Jay Williams https://www.instagram.com/jaywilliamsco/ Purchase This VS That and Leave Your Mark (all profits go to helping stop human trafficking) https://www.jaywilliamsco.com/the-book Say hi to Chris and John on social: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ https://www.instagram.com/chrissulimayhair/ https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/ If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!! Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ / Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa… Thank you for stopping by! Chris and John


    Vulnerability | Resilience & Finding What Works for You | Tamera Czarnowski Owner - Salon True Aug 23, 2021
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    Vulnerability | Resilience & Finding What Works for You | Tamera Czarnowski Owner - Salon True

    Tamera is a salon owner, hair stylist, and author who's been in the industry for over 20 years. Through working towards bringing my vision to life. She strives to create a unique experience to the clients at True.

    "I wanted it to be a place where everyone felt beautiful and luxurious, while still maintaining affordability." This was the inception of Salon True. "Our clients are our extended family; when you enter the salon, you feel like you are home."

    I am committed to empowering the men, women and young adults around me, and often hold seminars and events at the salon in order to accomplish this. 'Speak Our Language' is a book I wrote in 2007 to help clients communicate to their stylist. Those tips still stay 'true' today.

    Salon Business Blueprint Enroll before Oct 1st and SAVE $150.00 - https://www.124goacademy.com

    Debora Routhe Full Strands Course https://fullstrands.teachable.com/?affcode=930134_yaae7kaj - Use the Code SHOPTALK15 for 15% off of your purchase.

    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/chrissulimayhair/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ /

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for sto


    80% People 20% Hair | Good Enough is Not Enough | @Redhotstylist Ashley Lavallee Pt2 Aug 19, 2021
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    Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com

    80% People 20% Hair | Good Enough is Not Enough | @Redhotstylist Ashley Lavallee Pt2

    In this conversation Ashely reminds us that it’s not just about the haircut - but about how we make the client feel that makes the biggest impact.

    You can connect with Ashley

    https://www.instagram.com/redhotstylist/

    https://www.instagram.com/saveyourscissorssalon/

    https://redhotstylist.com

    https://saveyourscissorssalon.com

    Ashley Lavallee is the owner of Save Your Scissors Salon, an upscale and edgy salon where Ashley and her staff provide each client with their undivided attention and address their individual needs with creativity and professionalism.

    Ashley’s love for education and passion to help others is abundant.


    In this episode Ashley shares why it’s important to find your tribe, taking a leap of faith, and how she uses her passion for Disney to inspire the culture in her salon.

    Enroll in Salon Business Blueprint - https://www.124goacademy.com

    Debora Routhe Full Strands Course https://fullstrands.teachable.com/?affcode=930134_yaae7kaj - Use the Code SHOPTALK15 for 15% off of your purchase.

    The American Hair Loss Annual Conference 2021 - https://ahlc.org/annualconference/

    Say hi to Chris and John on social:

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/124.go/

    https://www.instagram.com/chrissulimayhair/

    https://www.instagram.com/noindoorvoice/

    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/124GO/

    If you’re a hairdresser, salon owner, salon manager or hair beauty professional, please subscribe and give us a Wicked Good Review!!

    Follow us on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/124.go/ /

    Music information: Never Wanna Grow up, by the incredible Katrina Stone. https://artlist.io/song/6748/never-wa…

    Thank you for stopping by!

    Chris and John


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