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    She Said / She Said

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    What it takes to raise (and become) an innovator: author Margot Machol Bisnow (Episode 153) May 17, 2021
    Show notes

    This week’s guest set out to understand how some of the most successful and creative entrepreneurs were raised. She interviewed a diverse mix of innovative founders and executives (as well as some of their parents) including: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki; TOMS Shoes founder Blake Mycoskie; Under Armour founder Kevin Plank; Supermodel Karolina Kurkova; movie director Jon Chu, among others. What she learned provides insight not only for raising children to be risk takers and problem solvers, but also how we can embrace practices in our own lives that help us develop those same capacities.

    Margot Machol Bisnow spent much of her early career in government, including on the Federal Trade Commission. Before that, she served as chief of staff to President Ronald Reagan’s Council of Economic Advisers. It was only after Margot’s two sons were grown that she became inspired by the idea of entrepreneurship and how we can do a better job of cultivating it — in our children and in ourselves.

    I’ll let Margot tell you the rest of the story, but here are a couple of important highlights from our conversation: the value of supporting and pursing the passions and interests that fuel you, and allowing kids to do the same. (With so many folks contemplating career pivots, it can be incredibly valuable to get back to what initially sparked your passion, and what you loved doing as a kid!) We also talk about the valuable role of competition in building confidence and risk taking, as well as the power of learning to embrace failure and setback.

    Margot’s journey and findings led her to publish “Raising and Entrepreneurs: 10 Rules for Nurturing Risk Takers, problem solvers, and change makers” in 2016. The book has been expanded and updated for re-release in the fall. You can pre-order the book in July 2021.

    Friend, I’m grateful you tuned in, and I’d love to know what you thought about today’s conversation, or any of our She Said/She Said Podcast episodes. How have you thought about this idea of pursuing your passion, and encouraging your children — if you have them — to do the same? How did Margot’s findings strike you? Any surprises? I’d love to know. You can reach me via the contact link at SheSaidSheSaidPodcast.com or DM me on Instagram @LauraCoxKaplan or message me on Linked In at Laura Cox Kaplan

    Most of all, I hope you found this little investment in you well worth it! Have a great week!

    The post What it takes to raise (and become) an innovator: author Margot Machol Bisnow (Episode 153) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Develop your perfect pitch and be “Great on the Job” with author & CEO Jodi Glickman (Episode 152) May 09, 2021
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    This week’s guest is passionate about developing leaders, and making her clients look good on the job. She is a master at helping people think through how best to position themselves for that next move — inside their current companies and organizations, getting that first job, or making a major career pivot. With so many women leaving the workforce and transitioning into other roles, this advice could not be more timely! My guest is Jodi Glickman and she is the founder and CEO of the appropriately named company “Great on the Job.” “Great on the Job” also happens to be the name of her critically-acclaimed book.

    Jodi has worked with some of the most influential organizations and highly revered brands. She counts LinkedIn, JP Morgan, Abbott, and Harvard Business School among her longest standing clients. She’s also appeared on the TEDx stage with a talk entitled “ Why You Should Stop Looking for Work You Love.

    I’m really excited to share this conversation with you! I first became aware of Jodi through a course she developed for Linked In. I watched Jodi’s presentation, and knew you guys would love her! And, that was even before I knew about her interesting career journey, and how she got where she is today. Not to give too much away, but Jodi served in the Peace Corp, and worked at the EPA, Exxon, and Goldman Sachs, before launching her business. One thing you’ll want to listen for in our conversation is how she tied all of that together for maximum impact — and how you can do the same with your own story.

    TIP: You might want to grab your notebook and and a pen for this one! And, be sure to hit the save button on the podcast as you may want to refer back to Jodi’s fabulous suggestions and advice, and please be sure to share this episode with others who you think would benefit.

    I’d love to know what resonates with you in this episode. What are your favorite take-aways, and what other topics should we cover if I’m lucky enough to get Jodi to come back again!

    Also, if you have a minute, please be sure to rate the episode and include any feedback about what you liked. Those comments help others find She Said/She Said Podcast and to join us on this journey!

    Until next week, take care!

    Great on the Job

    “Great on the Job: What to say, how to say it; The secrets of Getting Ahead”

    On Pitching Yourself

    The post Develop your perfect pitch and be “Great on the Job” with author & CEO Jodi Glickman (Episode 152) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Embracing change with one of the most powerful women on Wall Street: Barbara Novick co-founder of Blackrock (Episode 151) May 03, 2021
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    Hey friend!

    This week on She Said/She Said Podcast we’re talking about change. It can be so challenging! In many ways we’re not wired for it. That’s odd, especially since change is inevitable. It’s also critical for building risk tolerance, and for building the confidence you need in order to take those risks in the first place.

    So, how can we build greater capacity to embrace change, and greater capacity for embracing risk? This week’s guest has charted her entire career doing just that.

    Barbara Novick is one of the eight founding partners of Blackrock, the world leader in asset management. The firm has almost $9 trillion under management, but it didn’t start that way. Barbara and her seven co-founders had a simple plan. Through their focus on both leading and embracing change, they have grown the firm into the incredibly successful and influential organization it is today.

    Barbara is a trailblazer. Not only was she one of the most powerful if not the most powerful women at Blackrock, but she also has topped lists of the most powerful women in finance and on Wall Street. She has been at the forefront of leading and inspiring change in the asset management industry, while also adapting to the changing needs of customers and the global environment.

    In this conversation, Barbara shares great advice on navigating some very typical workplace and professional development challenges including: career pivots; work/life balance; finding and leveraging mentors; how to think about the mentor/mentee relationship; how to approach your boss with a problem; tips for working from home; the future of work and how different it will look after covid; being the only woman in the room; speaking up; understanding and internalizing your value; and more.

    I’m grateful you tuned in today, and would love your feedback on this or any of our She Said/She Said Podcast episodes. Please reach out and share your thoughts about what in our conversation resonated with you. I’d really love to hear! You can reach me via the contact link on the website SheSaidSheSaidPodcast.com or via DM me on Instagram Laura Cox Kaplan or Facebook, or LinkedIn.

    And, a quick favor, if you are enjoying She Said/She Said Podcast, please share us with your friends and followers! You can take a screenshot of the episode with your phone and share it to your social channels. Tell us, and your followers, what you enjoyed and why you found the time spent with us a great investment in YOU!

    See you next week! Until then, take care!

    The post Embracing change with one of the most powerful women on Wall Street: Barbara Novick co-founder of Blackrock (Episode 151) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Overcoming fear, defying odds, and helping others do the same: Megan Bushell, CEO, DEFY & Miss Kansas 2004 (Episode 150) Apr 26, 2021
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    Megan Bushell is the CEO of Defy, a sports and performance drink and product brand she co-founded with former NFL hall of famer Terrell Davis of the Denver Broncos.

    Defiance and perseverance are something Megan knows a bit about because her story and her path to the c-suite isn’t necessarily typical. It’s one of many things I love about this episode and think you will too!

    We do a deep dive into Megan’s origin story and how competition — specifically in the Miss America pageant system — fueled her ability to overcome fear. Megan was Miss Kansas 2004, and placed in the 10 top at Miss America that same year. Those accomplishments came only after trying and failing some nine times before.

    Megan and I talk about what she learned from that experience and the value that comes from challenging ourselves, learning to compete, and especially learning from our failures and setbacks. Those are such important building block for confidence. We also talk about work/life prioritization, picking partners, and knowing our value.

    And, we also talk about the innovation and growth in the CBD market and how products — like those at DEFY — are helping their customers compete and stay in the game.

    I’m grateful you joined me for this episode and I would love your feedback. What resonated with you? Please be sure to leave us a review, and I’d love for you to share the episode with others who you think would benefit from this content.

    Most of all…. I hope you found this time and investment in yourself worthwhile. Let me know!

    Until next week, take care!

    The post Overcoming fear, defying odds, and helping others do the same: Megan Bushell, CEO, DEFY & Miss Kansas 2004 (Episode 150) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    “Hiding in Plain Sight:” scholar and author Julia Sweig on the power and influence of Lady Bird Johnson (Episode 149) Apr 19, 2021
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    Julia Sweig is a scholar and author whose latest book reveals important and often surprising details about one of the most powerful (but often overlooked) people in the Johnson Administration — the President’s wife Lady Bird Johnson. Julia’s book is entitled: “Lady Bird Johnson: Hiding in Plain Sight.”

    Plowing through more than 123 hours of first-hand audio diaries that are housed at the LBJ Library at The University of Texas at Austin, Julia brings a much deeper and richer understanding of both the First Lady and of the Johnsons’ partnership. She also uncovers Mrs. Johnson’s role in practically every major issue of the Johnson Administration — from civil rights to Vietnam.

    In Episode 149, Julia and I dig into this incredible history. We also talk about how Julia, whose scholarly work up to this point had been largely focused on Cuba and Latin America, became inspired to take a fresh look at Mrs. Johnson’s legacy.

    In addition to the biography, Julia has produced an incredible podcast “In Plain Sight,” using some of the audio recordings featuring Mrs. Johnson.

    You’ll never think about Mrs. Johnson, the Johnson Administration, or her beautification efforts the same way again!

    I’d love to hear your thoughts on this or any of our She Said/She Said Podcast episodes. Be sure to contact me via the website, or DM me on Instagram @LauraCoxKaplan

    And, if you have an extra minute, I’d be so grateful for a review on Itunes!

    Thanks for listening! I hope you found this little investment in you well worth it. See you next week!

    The post “Hiding in Plain Sight:” scholar and author Julia Sweig on the power and influence of Lady Bird Johnson (Episode 149) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Helping women grow power and influence through podcasting: Marla Isackson, CEO, OSSA Collective (Episode 148) Apr 12, 2021
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    Growth in podcasting has exploded over the past few years. According to Edison Research, 51% of Americans over age 12 have listened to a podcast. While those numbers continue to climb worldwide, only about 22 percent of podcasts are hosted by women– a number strikingly similar to what we find with c-suite-level jobs, corporate boards, and elected office holders.

    This week’s guest is focused on helping women podcasters get the support and potentially funding needed to build thriving podcast businesses, and to secure a larger stake in this new medium. Marla Isackson is the Founder and CEO of OSSA, a podcast collective that matches women-hosted podcasts with advertisers to help monetize the content, and create a more sustained presence.

    Marla is a corporate marketing executive turned serial entrepreneur who actually stumbled into her love of podcasting. Her show “Mind of a Mentor” offers a deep dive into the career journeys of women (including myself) in her community. Like so many of us, Marla fell in love with the ability to connect her community through conversation about ideas via podcasting. Ultimately she shifted the focus of her business to focus exclusively on women podcasters. If you’ve ever considered starting a podcast, you won’t want to miss this!

    Even if you are not itching to get behind a mic and start your own podcast, there is so much great insight and perspective in this episode. Marla and I also talk about navigating career pivots, dealing with fear, building your network, building your brand, building a community, and much more!

    Last month, I joined Marla on her podcast Mind of a Mentor. You can find that conversation here: https://youtu.be/SHb0XJvWXY8

    Be sure to check out OSSA Collective! And let me know what you think of this week’s episode and what resonated most with you. Until next week, take care, but please be sure to send me some feedback and follow me on Instagram @lauraCoxKaplan . xo

    The post Helping women grow power and influence through podcasting: Marla Isackson, CEO, OSSA Collective (Episode 148) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Spring Cleaning Your Goals (Episode 147) Apr 05, 2021
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    This week, we’re tackling Spring Cleaning! But I’m not talking about your closet. I’m talking about your goals and your network. Check out Episode 147 for some thoughts and advice on why it’s important to reevaluate your yearly goals at each quarter, and why Spring is the perfect time to refresh your personal network.

    I’d love your feedback on Episode 147, or any of our She Said/She Said Podcast Episodes. Please be sure to send me a note via the contact link on the website, and make sure you are following me @LauraCoxKaplan where I post additional content to compliment episodes. Thanks for listening! Until next week, take care!

    The post Spring Cleaning Your Goals (Episode 147) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Life lessons and smart, actionable advice from Dana Perino (Episode 146) Mar 27, 2021
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    Ever wish for a hugely successful big sister or mentor — someone a few years ahead of you who had actually “been there/done that” — who could boil down practical, relevant life lessons and advice into smart, actionable chunks? The type of advice you could actually put to use!

    My friend Dana Perino is just that person. She’s compiled her best advice into a terrific new book entitled: “Everything will be ok: Life Lessons for Young Women from a Former Young Woman.” She joins me in Episode 146 to talk about the book, the advice, and why it’s so important for women to support other women.

    Many of you know Dana from her work as an anchor on Fox News Channel. She is co-host of The Five, co-anchor of America’s Newsroom, and an analyst for Fox election coverage and specials. She’s also a NYT bestselling author — three times over! In addition to her current book, other titles include: “And the Good News Is…Lessons and Advice from the Bright Side” and “Let me tell you about Jasper.”

    Dana is also a history maker as the first Republican woman to assume the podium as White House Press Secretary for President George W. Bush.

    Much of Dana’s off-air time these days is spent engaged in efforts to support other women. That includes her work with an organization called Minute Mentor, which she co-founded with friends Dee Martin and Jamie Zuieback. In fact, much of the advice in her latest book stems from questions Dana often received during Minute Mentor sessions.

    I think you’ll find so much to love about this Episode and Dana’s terrific book. It’s great perspective whether you are just launching your career, or looking to pivot. As an aside, I was so honored that Dana included She Said/She Said Podcast in her list of favorites for career and life advice for women! I am truly grateful!!

    Dana is also a repeat guest on She Said/She Said having joined me for Episode 100 last spring. If you missed it, be sure to check it out!

    If you’re listening on your phone, please be sure to take a screen shot and tag us on Instagram and Facebook — @DanaPerino and me @LauraCoxKaplan to let us know what you think of the episode. Be sure to let us know what advice resonated with you!

    Thanks for listening! I’ll see you next week. xo

    The post Life lessons and smart, actionable advice from Dana Perino (Episode 146) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Leading through the transformative power of story: best-selling author & journalist Gayle Tzemach Lemmon (Episode 145) Mar 21, 2021
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    Gayle Tzemach Lemmon is a best-selling author (three times over) whose work and talent as a storyteller and journalist has given us a first-hand understanding of women facing incredible odds in both male dominated societies in the Middle East, and on the battlefield.

    What’s more Gayle has told the stories that might not otherwise have made it into our collective consciousness. Her latest book is “The Daughters of Kobani.” It is the extraordinary story of the women who took on the Islamic State and won, and it is incredible. It’s a story most of us have not heard, and likely wouldn’t without Gayle’s commitment and dedication to telling it. And, Gayle proves her metal as a uniquely gifted storyteller once again.

    Gayle’s earlier books have included: “Ashley’s War,” the untold story of a team of U.S. women soldiers on the special ops battlefield, published in 2015 and soon to hit the big screen. In 2011, Gayle published “The Dressmaker of Khair Khana” about a young woman entrepreneur who supported her community under the Taliban.

    The fact that Gayle’s latest book has been endorsed by both the author Elizabeth Gilbert and retired United States Navy four-star Admiral William McRaven is not only high praise, but speaks to Gayle’s power to capture the depth and importance of a challenging but important story.

    As we think about Women’s History Month, Gayle has not only memorialized women history makers, but in the process has solidified her own role as a uniquely gifted storyteller for this generation.

    In this conversation, we talk about Gayle incredible career, and what inspired her to write these amazing stories. She also shares amazing advice for following your own heart, even when others have different ideas for you!

    I’d love to know what you think of this or any of our She Said/She Said podcast episodes! Please be sure to rate and review on Itunes or wherever you are listening. And, if you are listening on your phone, please take a quick screen shot and share on your Instagram and Facebook stories with tags to @LauraCoxKaplan and @SheSaidSheSaidPodcast

    I’m grateful you tuned in and hope you found this investment in you worthwhile! See you next week!

    The post Leading through the transformative power of story: best-selling author & journalist Gayle Tzemach Lemmon (Episode 145) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    More than 150 years of leading by example: A’Lelia Bundles on her great, great Grandmother Madam C. J. Walker (Episode 144) Mar 14, 2021
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    One of the most compelling and inspiring American entrepreneurship stories is that of Madam C. J. Walker. The first Black woman millionaire in America, she was the first person in her family to be born free in 1867 just after Emancipation Proclamation. She rose from washerwoman to international entrepreneur before any woman even had the right to vote. To think about how incredible that achievement was is a testament to Madam Walker’s determination and ability to both inspire and empower others.

    Madam Walker made her fortune creating a hair care product that she and others needed, but the product became a conduit for something much more significant and transformational for many women of color in her generation: it gave them financial independence.

    Today, we’re sitting down with Madam Walker’s great, great granddaughter — journalist, author and historian A’Lelia Bundles. A’Lelia is joining me as part of our Women’s History Month series.

    In addition to the incredible leadership lessons we draw from Madam Walker’s story in this episode, A’Lelia’s story is also powerful. In 2020, Netflix released a mini series called “Self Made,” starring Octavia Spencer and Blair Underwood. The series is loosely based on A’Lelia’s book about Madam Walker: “On Her Own Ground: The Life and Times of Madam C.J. Walker.” (A’Lelia book is a wonderful read, and I highly recommend it!) The Netflix series, however, fictionalizes key aspects of Madam Walker’s story and disregards A’Lelia’s life-long dedication and carefully researched history of her family. I was struck by how A’Lelia responded to this heartbreaking disappointment, and how she dealt with it.

    There are so many valuable lessons packed into this episode. I’m excited for you to hear it, and would love to know your thoughts.

    Remember, if you are listening to this episode on your phone, please be sure to share a screen shot to your Instagram and FB stories and tag me @LauraCoxKaplan. And, if you have a couple of extra minutes, I would love a review on Itunes. I’m grateful you joined us today… I’ll see you next week! Take care!

    The post More than 150 years of leading by example: A’Lelia Bundles on her great, great Grandmother Madam C. J. Walker (Episode 144) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


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