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    Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

    Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” on WGN Plus from WGN Radio in Chicago.

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    Getting to Yes, And… ‘Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI’ May 27, 2025
    Show notes

    Kelly has a fascinating conversation with University of Toronto professor Christopher DiCarlo where they discuss his new book: “Building a God: The Ethics of Artificial Intelligence and the Race to Control It.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7434695/7434695_2025-05-27-021335.64kmono.mp3

    “Let me be very clear: the threat from AI of existential risk and annihilation to humanity is very real.”

    “The word ‘robot’ is derived from a Czech word for forced labor.”

    “AI is only as good as the data sets it is trained on.”

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    Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Sarah Ruhl – ‘Lessons From My Teachers’ May 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Kelly welcomes renowned playwright, poet and teacher Sarah Ruhl back to the podcast. Sarah is a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, a Tony Award nominee, and the recipient of the MacArthur Genius Fellowship. She has a new book, it’s called “Lessons from My Teachers.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7431361/7431361_2025-05-23-032401.64kmono.mp3

    “Our phones can give us facts but not story; information, but not relation.”

    “Sometimes the teacher is wrong, and you should refuse to do their assignment.”

    “Theatre folk exist in a state of perpetual emergency. And yet, it’s almost never really an emergency.”

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    Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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    Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Rosalind Chow – ‘The Doors You Can Open’ May 20, 2025
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    Kelly opens the door for Rosalind Chow, an associate professor of organizational behavior and theory at Carnegie Mellon University. Her new book is called “The Doors You Can Open: A New Way to Network, Build Trust, and Use Your Influence to Create a More Inclusive Workplace.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7424276/7424276_2025-05-20-032116.64kmono.mp3

    “Mentors talk to you; sponsors talk about you.”

    “The key to effective sponsorship is trust.”

    “Performance is not the driver of who gets promoted; perceived potential is.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Zach Mercurio – ‘The Power of Mattering’ May 13, 2025
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    Kelly speaks with Zach Mercurio, a positive leadership and organizations researcher and Honorary Fellow of Psychology in the Center for Meaning and Purpose at Colorado State University. He has a new book: The Power of Mattering: How Leaders Can Create a Culture of Significance.

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7412622/7412622_2025-05-12-203922.64kmono.mp3

    “We can’t have healthy organizations with unhealthy people.”

    “Noticing is an ongoing practice that takes skill.”

    “Schedule your good intentions.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Melody Wilding – ‘Managing Up’ May 12, 2025
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    Kelly speaks to Melody Wilding, an executive and leadership coach, licensed social worker and a former researcher at Rutgers University. She is a professor of Human Behavior at Hunter College and is a contributor to Harvard Business Review, Forbes, and Business Insider. She has a new book, “Managing Up: How to Get What You Need from the People in Charge.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7397914/7397914_2025-05-05-035014.64kmono.mp3

    “Before you can align with others, you have to know what you want.”

    “Be fully present during your conversation.”

    “You’ll be more successful by listening more than you talk.”

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    Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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    Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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    Getting To Yes, And… | Sandra Matz – Mindmasters – Big Data and Behavior Change Apr 29, 2025
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    Kelly connects with Columbia Business School professor Sandra Matz to discuss her new book “Mindmasters: The Data-Driven Science of Predicting and Changing Human Behavior.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7389448/7389448_2025-04-29-140448.64kmono.mp3

    “We are fighting for attention. We want to be seen.”

    “Behavioral residues are the by-product of our lives.”

    “Each of us comes in many different versions.”

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    Getting To Yes, And… | Scott Barry Kaufman – ‘Rise Above and the Victim Mindset’ Apr 22, 2025
    Show notes

    Kelly welcomes Scott Barry Kaufman back to the podcast to talk about his new book “Rise Above: Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself, and Realize Your Full Potential.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7379620/7379620_2025-04-22-125820.64kmono.mp3

    “We’re living in a time when we identify so strongly with our victimhood that our potential has taken a back seat to our pain.”

    “There’s big money in trauma right now.”

    “The thing is, when we’re rigid, we become fragile.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Raffi Grinberg – ‘How to Be a Grownup’ Apr 15, 2025
    Show notes

    Kelly connects with Raffi Grinberg, a business leader, author, and educator based in Washington, DC. When teaching at Boston College, Raffi created a popular class called “Adulting 101.” He’s turned the teachings from that class into the book, “How to Be a Grownup.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7367604/7367604_2025-04-14-011704.64kmono.mp3

    “Many newly minted adults are more educated than ever, yet more lost than ever.”

    “Knowledge is pointless unless you know what you want.”

    “The most useful skill for any career is empathy.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Abby Davisson – ‘Money and Love’ Apr 08, 2025
    Show notes

    Kelly talks to former Gap executive Abby Davison, who has co-written a book with legendary Stanford University Professor Myra Strober called, “Money and Love: An Intelligent Roadmap for Life’s Biggest Decision”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7359298/Abby_Davison_2025-04-08-020838.64kmono.mp3

    “Talking about money often ranks high on the list of least favorite conversations.”

    “Productive fighting is better for a relationship than poor communication.”

    “We can’t make good decisions about our lives without looking at the whole picture.”


    Getting to Yes, And… | Wes Adams & Tamara Myles – ‘Meaningful Work’ Apr 01, 2025
    Show notes

    Kelly connects with CEO Wes Adams and Professor Tamara Myles about their new book, “Meaningful Work: How to Ignite Passion and Performance in Every Employee.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7348980/Wes_Adams_Tamara_Myles__2025-04-01-034520.64kmono.mp3

    “Trust at work – like in improv – is the oil that keeps the gears turning smoothly.”

    “Storytelling can be a powerful tool to create belonging.”

    “Micromanagement is a meaning killer.”

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