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    Scott & Mark Learn To…

    Join tech industry veterans Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich as they dive into the challenges and innovations of today’s fast-paced world. Whether you’re an experienced developer or simply curious about technology, each episode offers a fresh perspective on emerging trends, familiar topics, and insights that go beyond the strictly technical. From the latest in AI to effective ways to influence without authority, Scott and Mark set out to ‘learn’ something new in every episode, and they’re bringing you along for the ride. Join Scott and Mark for engaging discussions, expert advice, and a shared journey of learning and discovery. There’s always something new to learn! 

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    Scott & Mark Learn To... Scroll TikTok Oct 21, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich try something new as Mark reacts to TikTok videos exploring the decline of reading, shrinking attention spans, and the impact of AI on critical thinking. What starts as a lighthearted experiment turns into a deeper debate about technology, education, and what it means to be human in an AI-driven world.

    Takeaways:

    • How social media is changing our attention spans and reading habits

    • Why critical thinking matters in an AI-driven world

    • The risks of relying too heavily on AI to think for us

    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Scott & Mark Learn To... SemanticStart Oct 07, 2026
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    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich dive into Mark’s new SemanticStart project, exploring how semantic search can make finding Windows apps, tools, and settings more intuitive. Along the way, they experiment with AI-assisted coding, discuss how agents could interact with local tools, and debate a bigger question: does prompting an AI actually count as programming?

    Takeaways:

    • How semantic search combines keywords, embeddings, and enriched data

    • Why AI is changing the way developers build and prototype software

    • Whether prompting an AI should actually be considered programming.

    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Scott & Mark Learn To... Fool's Gold Sep 23, 2026
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    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich dive into the security risks surrounding increasingly capable open-weight AI models and Mark’s latest research into a new defense called Fool’s Gold. Mark explains how safety guardrails can be removed from open models and explores an alternative approach: training models to provide convincing but deliberately flawed information when those protections are bypassed. They discuss how the technique works, whether it affects legitimate model behavior, and what it could mean for the future of AI safety as open models continue to advance.


    Takeaways:

    • Why open-weight AI models can create new security risks

    • How Mark’s Fool’s Gold approach uses decoy responses as a defense decoy responses as a defense

    • Techniques that can protect against harmful use without degrading normal model performance

    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Scott & Mark Learn To...Enjoy the Journey Sep 09, 2026
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    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich explore when to let AI solve a problem and when figuring it out is half the fun. They celebrate 30 years of Sysinternals by looking back at how the tools have evolved and how AI is changing software engineering and troubleshooting. Along the way, they debate efficiency versus learning by doing and consider a future where tools may increasingly be built for AI rather than humans.

    Takeaways:

    • How Sysinternals has evolved over the past 30 years
    • How AI is changing software engineering and troubleshooting
    • Why future developer tools may be designed for AI, not humans

    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Produced by Hangar Studios



    Scott & Mark Learn To...Game Aug 26, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich talk about gaming, from the countless hours they’ve spent playing over the years to why they gravitate toward very different types of games. Scott makes the case for immersive single-player experiences like Crimson Desert, while Mark explains why Battlefield is his go-to for switching his brain off. Along the way, the conversation turns to the future of AAA games, AI-generated content, and whether knowing something was created by AI changes how we value it.

    Takeaways:

    • Different games serve different purposes for each player
    • Can AI-generated games deliver the same value as something created primarily by people
    • Does knowing the work and craftsmanship behind a game changes the experience

    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Produced by Hangar Studios


    Scott & Mark Learn To...Rethink Authorship Aug 12, 2026
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    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich explore how AI is rapidly changing the way software is built, from acting as a true research assistant to generating production-ready code and even helping write academic papers. They debate whether AI deserves credit for its work, discuss the future of developer tools like CLI vs. GUI and MCPs, and dive into creative AI projects like generating custom Doom levels from simple prompts. The conversation wraps with a thoughtful discussion about AI-generated art, creativity, and where human craftsmanship still matters most.

    Takeaways:

    • Human judgment is still essential, even when AI does most of the implementation
    • AI is evolving from a coding assistant into a genuine research collaborator
    • The industry hasn't settled how AI contributions should be credited


    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Produced by Hangar Studios


    Scott & Mark Learn To...Process Explorer for Mac Jul 29, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich explore Mark's latest AI-assisted coding project: bringing the iconic Sysinternals Process Explorer to macOS. They discuss how AI dramatically accelerated development, where human expertise was still essential, and why building reliable software still requires careful iteration, debugging, and judgment. Along the way, they compare Windows and macOS internals and examine what these advances mean for the future of software development.

    ZoomIt for Mac is now available here: Sysinternals ZoomIt for MacOS.

    Takeaways:

    • What it took to bring Process Explorer to macOS
    • Key differences between Windows and macOS system tools.
    • Practical lessons for building with AI effectively

    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Produced by Hangar Studios


    Scott & Mark Learn To... Polypost: A Multi-Platform Post Editor Jul 15, 2026
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    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich explore the realities of vibe coding by walking through a few of Mark's recent AI-assisted projects, including Polypost, a tool for writing and formatting social media posts and a nearly feature-complete Mac version of ZoomIt. They discuss where AI excels, where it still struggles, and why building software has become less about writing code and more about guiding, testing, and refining an AI collaborator. Along the way, they share lessons on prompt engineering, user experience, debugging, and why human judgment remains essential even as AI accelerates development.

    Polypost — multi-platform post editor

    Takeaways:

    • Successful AI development still relies on human decision-making
    • Mark shares the challenges and wins of building Polypost with AI
    • The iterative process of prompting, testing, and refining that turns AI-generated code into production-quality software

    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Produced by Hangar Studios


    Scott & Mark Learn To...The Cutting Room Floor Jul 01, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich pull back the curtain on Microsoft's Build conference with a look at the cutting room floor of Mark's Inside Azure Innovations breakout session. They explore fascinating technologies that didn't make the final presentation, including AI-powered network repair agents, advanced data center cooling systems, supply chain security innovations, prompt injection defenses, and groundbreaking approaches to cloud infrastructure. Along the way, they discuss how major technology presentations are assembled, the challenge of choosing what to showcase, and the incredible engineering work happening behind the scenes at Microsoft.

    See the innovations that did make the final cut in the recording of Mark’s Inside Azure Innovations talk at Microsoft Build 2026: Inside Azure Innovations with Mark Russinovich.

    Takeaways:

    • How Mark decides what innovations make it into major conference presentations
    • New technologies and tools being used to manage cloud infrastructure at scale
    • Why some of the most interesting innovations never make it onto the conference stage

    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Produced by Hangar Studios


    Scott & Mark Learn To...Build from Vibes to Craft Jun 17, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich reflect on conversations from Microsoft Build before diving into a thoughtful debate about AI's impact on software engineering. They explore why coding is ultimately about clear specifications, testing, and evaluation, not just generating code and discuss whether AI will truly replace developers or simply change how software is built. Along the way, they compare AI-generated software to IKEA furniture versus custom craftsmanship, examine the future of junior engineers, and share their perspectives on quality, responsibility, and what it really means to ship software in an AI-driven world.

    Takeaways:

    • How experienced engineers evaluate AI-generated code
    • The critical role of testing, evaluation, and human oversight in AI-assisted development
    • Why clear specifications are still the foundation of successful software projects.


    Who are they?

    View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn

    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn

    Watch Scott and Mark Learn on YouTube

    Listen to other episodes at scottandmarklearn.to

    Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts


    Produced by Hangar Studios


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