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    Scoop & Scale: An Equine Podcast (Mostly) About Nutrition

    Dr. Clair Thunes and Jill Jackson dish up the science and weigh the facts about equine nutrition, horse care, and industry topics.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Ep. 57: Not All Equine Nutritionists Are Created Equal: How to Find Qualified Advice Sep 01, 2025
    Show notes

    What does it really mean to be an equine nutritionist, and how can horse owners tell if the advice they’re getting is coming from an appropriately qualified expert? In this episode, Jill and Dr. Clair Thunes are joined by Dr. Rachel Mottet of Legacy Equine Nutrition to discuss the often confusing world of equine nutrition credentials.
    In this episode we discuss:
    -Why “Equine Nutritionist” is not a protected title and what that means for horse owners
    -The difference between formal degrees (BS, MS, PhD) and non-credentialed programs
    -Why some PhDs believe the term “equine nutritionist” should be reserved for doctoral-level professionals
    -What to ask before hiring someone to evaluate your horse’s diet
    -The role of certified equine nutrition advisors and how they differ from nutritionists
    -How to spot red flags when seeking nutrition advice online
    -Practical steps to ensure you and your horse gets expert, evidence-based nutritional guidance
    If you’ve ever wondered how to separate expertise from opinion in equine nutrition, this episode will give you the tools to make informed decisions for your horse’s health.

    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


    Ep. 56: Horse Feed Tags Demystified: How to Read and Compare Feeds Aug 18, 2025
    Show notes

    Ever found yourself in the feed store (or deep in a late-night Google search) wondering if there’s a better horse feed out there for your equine partner? With so many options and so much marketing jargon, it’s easy to feel overwhelmed. In this episode, we take you through how to read and understand horse feed labels, so you can cut through the noise and make confident, informed choices for your horse’s nutrition.
    What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
    - Why a feed's name can be misleading
    - How to find and understand the feed's purpose statement
    - What the guaranteed analysis really tells you
    - Why reading an ingredient list beyond the first few items is important
    - Why feeding rate and bag weight can drastically change the real cost per day
    - Common marketing buzzwords and product names designed to sway your decision (and how to look past them).
    By the end of this episode, you’ll have a clear framework to evaluate your horse feed so you can confidently answer the question: Is this the right feed for my horse?

    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


    Ep. 55: What to Feed When Hay Isn’t an Option: Hay Pellets & Cubes Explained Aug 04, 2025
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    In this episode of Scoop & Scale, we explore the practical and nutritional role of hay pellets and cubes in the equine diet. Typically associated with senior horses with poor teeth or as a carrier for supplements, these hay alternatives have so many more uses and benefits. This is especially true during hay shortages, evacuations, or when managing specific health issues like equine asthma or free fecal water syndrome. In this episode we discuss:
    - When pellets or cubes are necessary alternatives to hay
    - The difference between hay pellets and hay cubes
    - Why hay pellets may offer better digestibility and nutrient absorption than hay
    - Common myths around "processed" feed and fiber content
    - Practical tips on feeding during emergencies and ways to improve feeding time

    If you're rethinking your forage options or just want a deeper
    understanding of hay pellets and cubes, this episode will give you the
    insight and confidence to feed smarter.
    Mentioned in this episode:
    Ep. 38: Body Weight, Condition Scoring and Equine Nutrition
    https://scoopandscale.com/ep-38-body-weight-condition-scoring-and-equine-nutrition/
    Ep. 49: Beyond Diarrhea: Identifying and Managing Free Fecal Water
    Syndrome (FFWS) in Horses
    https://scoopandscale.com/ep-49-beyond-diarrhea-identifying-and-managing-free-fecal-water-syndrome-ffws-in-horses/
    Pre-Vent Feeder https://youtu.be/VVUMjg5ENc4?si=i4HghUJKBy99QBbq

    iFeed Automatic Feeder https://ifeednaturally.com/


    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


    Ep. 54: Understanding Pasture Grass Sugar Levels — The Long and the Short of It with the Equine, PhD Jul 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Is short grass really sweeter? Is tall grass actually safer for
    metabolic horses? Or have we been grazing on myths? In this powerful,
    research-backed episode, we sit down with Dr. Michelle DeBoer of
    Equine, PhD, the voice behind the viral post that ignited over 1,500
    likes, 400+ comments, and 1,200 shares—and shook up everything we
    thought we knew about grass height, NSC (non-structural
    carbohydrates), and sugar intake in horses.
    We dive into:
    -What current research really says about grass height and NSC levels
    -How time of day, weather, and pasture management impact sugar content
    -Why warm- vs. cool-season grasses behave differently
    -Why maturity doesn't always mean "safe" when it comes to NSC
    -Why forage testing and horse-specific data matter more than social media myths
    -How the equine research system works—and why more support is desperately needed
    Whether you're managing a pony with metabolic issues, a performance horse on
    turnout, or just want to feed smarter with science, this episode will
    challenge what you know and empower you to make more informed decisions.
    Don’t miss the original post that inspired this episode:
    Tall Tales About Short Grass – Evaluating the Role of Grass Height & NSC Levels
    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16sC8Xeqoo/

    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


    Ep. 53: The Forage Based Diet Trend: What You’re Probably Already Doing Right Jul 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Lately, we've noticed a growing number of horse owners online seeking advice on how to feed “forage-based” diets. But are they already doing this without realizing?

    In this episode, we dig into:

    - what constitutes a forage-based diet and how to know if you are feeding one
    - why terms such as “forage-based”, “grain-free” and “carb-free” when it comes to equine diets can be misleading
    - why using the wrong language can lead you to make unnecessary changes to your horse's diets, waste your time and potentially cause you unnecessary stress
    - how using these terms incorrectly opens the door for misinformation and falling prey to misleading marketing

    When it comes to equine nutrition, details matter. This includes how, and what words are used to describe our horse's diets. If you've ever felt confused by some of these nutrition buzzwords, or just want to make sure you aren't being misled, this episode is for you.

    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


    Ep. 52: Summer Heat and Your Horse Part 2: Nutrition and Management Jun 20, 2025
    Show notes

    In our last episode, we explored how horses manage their body temperature and what happens when they experience heat stress. Now, we're diving into how to adjust their diet during hot weather! In this episode we discuss:

    • hay adjustments to reduce metabolic heat,
    • the impact of high-protein diets on hydration,
    • whether or not your horse needs a biotic,
    • and so much more!

    Plus, we'll cover crucial summer nutrients like chromium, the difference between salt and electrolytes, and how to manage electrolyte needs. We'll also share tips for safe feed storage and the importance of keeping those feed tubs clean!

    Kemin Chromium for Horses https://www.kemin.com/na/en-us/markets/animal/products/kemtrace-chromium/horse#KTCRFINDNOW

    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


    Ep. 51: Summer Heat and Your Horse Part 1: The Science Behind the Stress Jun 20, 2025
    Show notes

    Join us as we dive into how horses handle hot weather and the internal changes they undergo when stressed by the heat. We answer critical questions about horse physiology in high temperatures. We'll explore why horses get hot, how they regulate their body temperature, and what happens when they can't. Other important topics discussed include:

    • sources of heat stress,
    • natural cooling strategies,
    • signs of overheating and what to do,
    • how heat stress negatively impacts your horse's gut,
    • inflammatory and immune response to heat stress,
    • just how much electrolyte your horse is losing when he sweats,
    • how exercise compounds heat stress,

    This episode is crucial for understanding how heat negatively impacts your horse even when everything looks just fine.


    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


    Ep. 50: From Shedding to Shining: Nutrition & Care Tips for Healthy Horse Coats Jun 09, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, cover the secrets of equine coat health, from shedding season struggles to the crucial nutrients found in spring pastures. Discover why vitamin E levels matter, even when they seem "normal," and how to choose the right fats and oils, including the benefits of omega-3s over corn and soy oil. We'll also explore the importance of trace minerals like copper, zinc, and manganese, and how to ensure your horse is getting the most bioavailable forms. Plus, get practical tips on effective washing techniques, debunking biotin myths, and addressing issues like sunburn, hives, and tail rubbing. Whether you're battling summer bleaching or simply aiming for a gleaming coat, this episode has the expert advice you need.

    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


    Ep. 49: Beyond Diarrhea: Identifying and Managing Free Fecal Water Syndrome (FFWS) in Horses May 26, 2025
    Show notes

    Free fecal water syndrome (FFWS) is a frustrating and often confusing problem for horse owners. A horse may pass normally formed manure while brown liquid is released before, during, or after manure passage, leaving the horse's hind legs and tail wet and soiled. But is free fecal water syndrome the same thing as diarrhea? What causes it? When should you call your veterinarian? And what can you actually do to manage it?

    In this episode, we explore the frustrating condition known as Free Fecal Water Syndrome (FFWS) in horses. If you’ve ever dealt with your horse passing brown liquid before or after manure, you know this condition and how challenging it can be. Join us as we welcome back Dr. Phoebe Smith DVM, DACVIM, (an internal medicine specialist), to help us understand what FFWS is, how it's diagnosed, and effective management strategies. In this episode, you'll hear Dr. Phoebe Smith discuss:

    • How FFWS differs from diarrhea and loose manure
    • Potential causes and risk factors
    • When veterinary evaluation is appropriate
    • Diagnostic and management approaches
    • Feeding and forage considerations
    • Supplements, medications, and other treatments
    • Skin care for horses affected by fecal water
    • Prevention strategies

    You can find more information about Dr. Phoebe Smith and Riviera Equine Internal Medicine & Consulting HERE


    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


    Ep. 48: Decoding Muscle Myopathies Part 2: Managing RER, MFM, MFM-ER, MFM-WB, PSSM2-ER; May 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Welcome to part 2. We're revisiting the complex world of muscle myopathies, specifically focusing on Myofibrillar Myopathy (MFM) in both Arabian and Warmblood horses. If you missed our previous episodes on PSSM Type 1 and the initial breakdown of other muscle myopathies, we highly recommend you go back and catch up. In this episode Dr. Katie Young returns to help us navigate the nuances of MFM-ER in Arabians, characterized by elevated muscle enzymes and desmin aggregates, and MFM-WB in Warmbloods, which presents with performance issues without elevated enzymes. Specifically, we discuss:

    • Diagnostic differences between conditions,
    • The progressive nature of MFM in Warmbloods, and what it means for diagnosing younger horses versus older horses.
    • What we think the metabolic issues are that cause these conditions and how these differ significantly from PSSM, RER and MFM.
    • Specific feeding recommendations for each conditions based on their metabolic differences.
    • Common misconceptions about high-fat diets, and play a game of "Feed that Horse!" to apply what we've learned to real-life scenarios.

    Join us as we unravel the complexities of muscle myopathies and provide practical advice for managing these conditions.

    https://ker.com/ – KER discount code: CT001

    Kentucky Equine Research https://ker.com/nmdl/resources/

    Pagan JD, Valberg SJ. The Role of Nutrition in Managing Muscle Disorders. Vet Clin North Am Equine Pract. 2025 Apr;41(1):151-163. doi: 10.1016/j.cveq.2024.11.007. Epub 2025 Jan 27. PMID: 39875249.

    https://ker.com/wp-content/uploads/The-Role-of-Nutrition-in-Managing-Muscle-Disorders-Veterinary-Clinics-of-North-America-Equine-Practice.pdf

    Do you have questions about feeding your horse? Contact us at info@scoopandscale.com

    Thanks for riding along with us!


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