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    School for School Counselors Podcast

    Ready to cut through the noise and get to the heart of what it really means to be a school counselor today? Welcome to The School for School Counselors Podcast! Let’s be honest: this job is rewarding, but it’s also one of the toughest, most misunderstood roles out there. That’s why I’m here, offering real talk and evidence-based insights about the everyday highs and lows of the work we love.

    Think of this podcast as your go-to conversation with a trusted friend who just gets it. I’m here to deliver honest insights, share some laughs, and get real about the challenges that come with being a school counselor. 

    Feeling overwhelmed? Frustrated? Eager to make a significant impact? I’m here to provide practical advice, smart strategies, and plenty of support.

    Each week, we’ll tackle topics ranging from building a strong counseling program to effectively using data—and we won’t shy away from addressing the tough issues. If you’re ready to stop chasing impossible standards and want to connect with others who truly understand the complexities of your role, you’re in the right place.

    So find a quiet spot, get comfortable, and get ready to feel more confident and supported than you’ve ever felt before. 

    For more resources and to stay connected, visit schoolforschoolcounselors.com.

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    Student Summer Safety Plans May 08, 2023
    Show notes

    Summer plans are something that you can help students develop to help hold off any "summer slide" of social emotional skills they've built during the school year.
    They can also be used to support students who may be living in tenuous circumstances or for other social-emotional concerns.
    But how to write them? What do we include? And how can we know that students will even utilize them over the summer?
    We'll dive into all this and more in this episode.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    **FREE DOWNLOAD- Student Summer/Safety Plan**
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
    "Get the Job!" Interview Prep Program
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    Support the show


    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Unpacking the Role of School Counselors: We're NOT "Adjunct Teachers" May 01, 2023
    Show notes

    School counselors often fall into a gray area on campus, not quite fitting into the "administrator" or "teacher" category. This can result in ambiguity around our job roles and expectations.

    With Teacher Appreciation Week approaching, it's common for school counselors to be included in celebrations despite our jobs being vastly different from classroom teachers. Continuing to group counselors in with teachers could have consequences, so in this episode, we'll explore ways to set ourselves apart and ensure that all school counselors receive the recognition and appreciation they deserve.
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Social-Emotional Learning vs Character Education: Are You Teaching the Right One? Apr 23, 2023
    Show notes

    The debate regarding the implementation of character education versus social-emotional learning (SEL) has been reignited recently in light of Florida's new Resiliency Education Standards.

    Character education emphasizes the development of specific virtues, such as respect, responsibility, and citizenship. Proponents of character education argue that these virtues can be taught in a structured way, and that this approach leads to better academic and social outcomes for students.

    On the other hand, social-emotional learning (SEL) focuses on the development of emotional intelligence, including skills like self-awareness, self-management, and relationship-building. Advocates of SEL argue that these skills are essential for success in school and in life, and that they can be taught through explicit instruction and experiential learning.

    So, which approach is best for students? The answer isn’t simple, as both character education and SEL have their strengths and weaknesses. We break it all down in this episode.
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com


    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    WTH Just Happened to School Counseling in Florida??!!? Apr 17, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, I HOPE I AM WRONG about what appears to be a systematic dismantling of school counselors in Florida. Less than a month ago, the Florida First Lady announced an initiative to "reframe mental health education with a focus on resiliency" and teach students to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
    As part of this initiative, Florida is inviting literally anyone off the street to take a short "counseling course," go into schools, and serve as unqualified "coaches" in lieu of students accessing school counselors.
    "Coaching" isn't counseling.
    And if that wasn't bad enough- there's more.
    Listen in on the details of the plan (which has already been approved by the Florida Department of Education), the discrediting of school counselors as school-based mental health providers, and discussion about WHY ON EARTH our representatives aren't making noise about this.
    It's a modern tragedy in the making, and something we should ALL be talking about.
    Referenced in this episode:
    Florida Dept of Ed article: "First Lady Casey DeSantis Announces Florida Is First in Nation to Reframe and Rethink the Way Mental Health Is Taught in Schools"
    Orlando Spectrum News 13: "Florida to reframe mental health education with a focus on resiliency"
    Florida School Counselor Association comments from their Advocacy Committee (Mar 28, 2023)

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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    Support the show

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    STOP Talking About ODD! What School Counselors Can Do Instead Apr 10, 2023
    Show notes

    Oppositional Defiant Disorder is a term that we hear people toss around in schools all the time. It just seems to be the world we're living in right now: if you don't know what to do with "that kid," if they get persnickety, if they're argumentative, if they don't cooperate, they refuse to complete work, threaten others, etc., etc... everyone seems to feel free to start talking about ODD.
    In this episode, I'll talk about the damage that can be done with this type of label, why some prominent experts think a whole other term is better, and how can you support ANY student with tough behaviors, ODD or not.
    I'll also give you the information and insight you need to confidently reframe conversations with teachers, administrators, or other staff when the idea of ODD comes up.
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    Support the show

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Post-Covid Kids and School Counseling Apr 03, 2023
    Show notes

    It seems we're always talking about, "Before COVID... Since COVID... Now that COVID has happened...."
    I wanted to bring you an episode about what REALLY happened for students and families during the height of the COVID pandemic. Although a lot of the research is still yet to be released, what we do have so far has given us some really interesting insights as to where students stood during the fury of lockdowns and social distancing, and some of the things they experienced along the way.
    Those factors have definitely come into play in current school settings, so it's important for all of us as school counselors to dive into what we know so far about COVID and post-COVID kids.
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    When Tragedy Strikes and It Feels Like Too Much Mar 30, 2023
    Show notes

    When tragedy strikes, it's hard to know what the next best steps are as school counselors. For so many people, the world feels like a disorienting mess right now.
    So what do we do in times like these?
    I'm offering some thoughts from our recent School for School Counselors open support & consultation chat.
    Because when I learned that many of you were hurting, I immediately dropped all plans and began working to ensure that my team and I could provide space for our colleagues to process their thoughts about what our work means and how we can rise to the occasion without losing ourselves.
    These are some of my thoughts that I recorded immediately after the chat.
    I'm releasing them in hopes that they somehow speak to the purpose and meaning in your work.
    Be well, friends. ❤️️
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Want to Feel Good About Your School Counseling Career? You Need This Mar 27, 2023
    Show notes

    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind <--- signup/info link
    Cited Sources:
    Bardhoshi, G., et al. (2022). Novice school counselors’ burnout profiles and professional experiences: A mixed-methods study. Professional School Counseling, 26(1): 1–13. doi: 10.1177/2156759X221126686

    Butler, S.K. (2005). Collective self-esteem and burnout in professional school counselors. Professional School Counseling, 9(1): 55-62.
    Frye, H.J., Cook, R.M. & Baylin, A. (2022). Exploring individual and organizational predictors of school counselor wellness. Professional School Counseling, 26(1): 1–9. doi: 10.1177/2156759X211067959
    Lyon, A.R., et al. (2013). “If it’s worth my time, I will make the time”: School-based providers’ decision-making about participating in an evidence-based psychotherapy consultation program. Adm Policy Ment Health, 40(6): 467–481.


    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Check out our Modern Planner for School Counselors

    A modern, elegant take on the traditional school counselor planner with an easy, minimalistic vibe.
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Join our game-changing "Get the Job!" program

    Never worry if you're ready for that big interview or whether you'll be able to answer the questions well without a ton of stress or nervousness... with our exclusive interview prep sequence, materials and templates, you'll be prepared to SHINE!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    The Surprising Truths About Color Psychology and School Counselor Interviews Mar 13, 2023
    Show notes

    We get lots of questions from our "Get the Job!" prep program each year, and one of the most popular is, "What do I wear?"
    In this episode of the podcast, we'll jump into color choice: how are the colors of your interview attire perceived, and what does the research really say? We'll walk through the research about your color choices, how they may be interpreted, and how you can use the research to your advantage.
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    "Get the Job!" <--- signup/info link
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Check out our Modern Planner for School Counselors

    A modern, elegant take on the traditional school counselor planner with an easy, minimalistic vibe.
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Join our game-changing "Get the Job!" program

    Never worry if you're ready for that big interview or whether you'll be able to answer the questions well without a ton of stress or nervousness... with our exclusive interview prep sequence, materials and templates, you'll be prepared to SHINE!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    The Secret Ingredient in School Counselor Success & Longevity Mar 06, 2023
    Show notes

    It's time to focus on something that is really overlooked in our field and that we should be talking more about: it could be the single most important skill that you can develop to not only survive- but thrive!- in your career as a school counselor. Can you guess what it might be?
    Self-compassion may seem like kind of a silly thing to be talking about when we think about all of the really big, important, stressful things going on in our school counseling worlds, but research shows us that self-compassion is vital if you want to endure in this career for any amount of time.
    Jump in to see if you REALLY know what self-compassion is, how to exercise it when you work in an environment where you feel like you're being judged EVERY SINGLE DAY or where you don't have a moment's peace, and how to cultivate your capacity for self-compassion.
    We round things out with a bonus exercise in self-compassion that may completely change the way you see your work- for the better!
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
    Harvard Health: 4 Ways to Boost Your Self-Compassion
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Check out our Modern Planner for School Counselors

    A modern, elegant take on the traditional school counselor planner with an easy, minimalistic vibe.
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Join our game-changing "Get the Job!" program

    Never worry if you're ready for that big interview or whether you'll be able to answer the questions well without a ton of stress or nervousness... with our exclusive interview prep sequence, materials and templates, you'll be prepared to SHINE!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



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