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    School Business Insider

    ASBO International’s official podcast. Each week we sit down down with school business professionals and industry experts from around the world to share their stories and explore the topics that matter most to you.

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    Innovation in Advocacy: How ASBO NY is Using AI to Support Members Nov 04, 2025
    Show notes

    One year after his first conversation on AI and innovation, ASBO New York’s Executive Director, Brian Cechnicki, returns to School Business Insider to share how his work has evolved — and what’s next.

    Host John Brucato reconnects with Brian to explore how ASBO New York is using AI, automation, and data visualization to create practical tools that empower members, enhance transparency, and support state-level advocacy.

    They discuss lessons learned, new initiatives, and how technology is helping associations serve their members in smarter, faster, and more meaningful ways.


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    • Website: https://asbointl.org/SBI
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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    The Juggle is Real: Lessons in Work, Family, and Identity Oct 28, 2025
    Show notes

    Leadership, family, and finding balance — what does it really look like in practice?

    In this solo episode of School Business Insider, host John Brucato steps away from the interviews to share personal reflections on managing family life, leadership, and self in the midst of constant motion.

    John recently welcomed his second child and offers an honest look at what it means to balance professional ambition with parenting, partnership, and personal identity.

    It’s a candid, heartfelt reflection on grace, growth, and redefining what success and balance truly mean.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Career Transitions in School Business: Insights from Rubie Harris Oct 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Career journeys are never linear — they’re built on experiences, lessons, and sometimes big leaps of faith.

    In this episode of School Business Insider, host John Brucato talks with Rubie Harris, Assistant Superintendent for Finance and Management Services at Huntington Union Free School District in New York. With more than a decade of experience in school business, Rubie shares her professional journey, the challenges and opportunities of relocating across the state to a new district, and the lessons she’s learned along the way.

    She also looks ahead to her future goals and reflects on the leadership values that continue to shape her career.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Building Up, Not Out: New Approaches to School Facilities Oct 14, 2025
    Show notes

    Schools are running out of land—but that doesn’t mean growth has to stop. Vertical design offers a compelling alternative for districts dealing with tight sites, rising costs, and changing educational requirements.

    In this episode of School Business Insider, we sit down with Kurt Peeters and Matt McGregor of Hoffman Planning, Design & Construction, Inc., authors of “The Vertical Advantage.” They take us through the practical, operational, and fiscal benefits of multi‑story school buildings—using the Tomorrow River case study and design best practices. If you’re involved in facilities, planning, or district leadership, this episode offers tools and strategy for reimagining school spaces for the future.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Why You Can’t Miss AC&E 2025 in Fort Worth Oct 07, 2025
    Show notes

    It’s almost time for ASBO International’s Annual Conference & Expo (AC&E 2025), happening October 21–23 in Fort Worth, Texas, with pre-conference workshops on October 20.

    In this episode, School Business Insider host John Brucato is joined by Cristin Watson, Lori Grooms, and Angie Smith from ASBO International to preview the event. Together, they highlight the theme “Navigate: Leading the Journey to Growth,” spotlight educational sessions and workshops, discuss networking and expo hall highlights, and share practical tips for both first-time and veteran attendees.

    Whether you’re already registered or still considering it, this episode is your guide to getting the most out of AC&E 2025.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Leading the Charge on School Facilities and Infrastructure Sep 30, 2025
    Show notes

    School buildings are the backbone of learning environments—but too often, districts lack the funding clarity, planning tools, or support they need to modernize facilities. That’s where the National Center on School Infrastructure (NCSI) comes in.

    In this episode of School Business Insider, host John Brucato speaks with Dr. Jeff Vincent, Director of NCSI, and Jo Ann Armstrong, CSBO, Chief Financial & Operations Officer at Belvidere CUSD 100 and NCSI advisory committee member. They explore how the Center is helping districts tackle challenges from indoor air quality and energy efficiency to facility master planning, resilience, and equity.

    The conversation covers:

    • Why the U.S. Department of Education created NCSI and what it aims to achieve
    • How the resource library and interactive data dashboard provide actionable tools
    • Real examples from Belvidere’s 10-year facilities plan across aging buildings
    • Opportunities for school business leaders to engage with NCSI

    Whether you’re managing deferred maintenance, planning capital strategy, or making the case for better infrastructure, this episode offers both inspiration and practical next steps.

    Resources & Links

    • National Center on School Infrastructure: school-infrastructure.org
    • Resource Library: Explore Resources
    • NCSI Podcast Stretched + Fall 2025 Webinar Series


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Hard Choices, Smarter Schools: Surviving the Big Shrink Sep 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Enrollment is shrinking—and the pressure is on. But that doesn’t mean school districts need to cut blindly. It means they need to plan smart.

    In this episode, Dr. Marguerite Roza of Georgetown University’s Edunomics Lab joins School Business Insider to discuss what she calls “The Big Shrink”—a long-term, nationwide enrollment decline—and how school systems can respond with strategy rather than panic.

    She shares a roadmap for rethinking staffing models, evaluating programs for value, and leading through change with clarity and purpose.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Lessons in School Safety: What We Can Learn from Tragedy Sep 16, 2025
    Show notes

    School safety is not waiting for permission, it’s urgent. In this episode of School Business Insider, John Brucato talks with Frank Guglieri, Director of Regional Safety Services at PNW BOCES, about rapid, real-world responses to recent crises like the Minneapolis school mass shooting and corrective action in cases of credible internal threats.

    They unpack what happens when crisis hits, what gaps become painfully clear, and how school business officials, operations leaders, CFOs, and SBOs can lead preparation and response. You’ll walk away with actionable insights for strengthening alert systems, communications, interdepartmental drills, and districtwide readiness.

    Check out the Prevention, Preparedness, Partnerships and Pathways Forward
    School Safety Benchmarks 2025-2026 here!


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Inside a Cyber Attack: Lessons for Schools from the Front Lines Sep 09, 2025
    Show notes

    Cyber attacks on schools are on the rise — and when they happen, the impact is immediate and long-lasting.

    In this episode of School Business Insider, host John Brucato speaks with Johnty Mongan, Global Head of Cyber Risk Management at Gallagher Cyber Risk Management. With years of experience responding to some of the most challenging cyber incidents worldwide, Johnty pulls back the curtain on what really happens during an attack — from the first chaotic hours to the long-term fallout for students, staff, and communities.

    We cover:

    • The anatomy of a school cyber attack
    • Why criminals target education and what they hope to gain
    • The turning points when attacks go from bad to worse
    • The lasting human and operational impact
    • The top five cyber controls schools should implement now

    If you’ve ever wondered how cyber criminals operate and what SBOs can do to protect their districts, this is a must-listen.


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    Make sure to like, subscribe and share for more great insider episodes!
    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Tax Credits, Deadlines, and Your District’s EV Transition Plan Sep 02, 2025
    Show notes

    School districts have a unique opportunity to save money as they transition to electric buses and charging infrastructure. Through the federal 45W Clean Vehicle Credit and 30C Refueling Property Credit, districts can access up to $40,000 per bus and $100,000 per charger—but these tax credits are set to expire soon.

    In this episode of School Business Insider, John Brucato speaks with Katherine Roboff (World Resources Institute’s Electric School Bus Initiative) and Carolina Chacon Mendoza (Alliance for Electric School Buses). They explain eligibility, how elective pay works for tax-exempt entities, and the step-by-step IRS process to claim these funds.

    We also discuss how districts can combine these tax credits with EPA’s Clean School Bus Program and why planning ahead for infrastructure and community engagement is critical. Whether your district is just beginning to explore electrification or already has buses and chargers on order, this episode provides timely, practical guidance to ensure you don’t leave money on the table.

    Resources Mentioned:

    • IRS 45W FAQ
    • Alliance for Electric School Buses
    • Electric School Bus Initiative (WRI)
    • Recording and slides from WRI’s 45W webinar
    • IRA and CHIPS Act of 2022 Pre-filing Registration Tool (IRS)
    • IRS: Elective Pay and Transferability
    • IRS: Elective Pay Pre-Filing Tool
    • Lawyers for Good Government — Annotated Tax Forms
    • Lawyers for Good Government — Updates to Elective Pay Tax Credits
    • 30C Eligible Census Tracts Mapping Tool (ANL)
    • Sample Filing Walkthrough (not tax advice)


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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