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    Rule Your Pool

    Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what’s really going on with your swimming pool chemistry, this might be the podcast for you. Each week, we’ll cover a new topic related to swimming pools, water chemistry, or indoor air quality. With our help, you’ll be able to rule your pool without over-treating it with chemicals and wasting money.

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    Minimalist Pool Care, with Harold Evans Jun 23, 2021
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:20 - Orenda is more of a philosophy than a product line

    04:12 - Chemical conflicts

    14:43 - No long-term byproducts left behind (Papaw's Law)

    19:29 - Minimalist pool care

    31:40 - The love affair with chlorine and acid is a bad habit, and it has consequences

    37:24 - A trusted source of information for all levels of pool owners/operators

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

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    The Golden Rule, with Harold Evans Jun 16, 2021
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    03:48 - Our strategy at Orenda: a minimalist approach, proactive pool chemistry

    06:24 - What has changed in the pool industry culture?

    09:00 - The aptitude in the industry has improved, and is essential for our future

    09:47 - Old habits still dominate...but change is already occurring in a good direction

    14:03 - Cynicism in pool forums is hurtful to our industry

    18:20 - Give the customer the service you would want if you were the customer

    26:25 - Customers buy things online and ask service pros to install it

    32:45 - Respect must flow both ways in a service relationship with a customer.

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    How to Fix 3 Types of Green Pools Jun 09, 2021
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:31 - Green water from calcium/alkalinity imbalance. Add calcium.

    03:08 - Copper. Figure out where the copper is coming from (and stop it), then remove copper.

    04:51 - SC-1000 is not a stain or metal remover. It is a chelating agent that needs to be used in conjunction with a citric/ascorbic acid and a metal filter/remover.

    07:17 - Algae. Chlorine (HOCl) is the best algaecide. Orenda does NOT make any algaecides.

    14:20 - Remove debris from a green pool, because piles underwater can protect algae from chlorine.

    18:45 - Liquid chlorine is the preferred chlorine method for green pool cleanups.

    19:46 - Reminder: never mix different types of chlorine!

    23:25 - Green pool cleanup process (in order): remove debris. Netting, brushing, vacuuming. Super-chlorinate, add PR-10,000, then CV-600 or CV-700 enzymes.

    26:21 - When do we add enzymes? Some add them same day, some add the next day. Both seem to work.

    31:00 - Recap: first, figure out why your pool is green. It may not be algae.

    33:23 - Thank you for listening!

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    Why is My Pool Green? Jun 02, 2021
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:43 - This pool wasn't an opaque green, it was translucent, tinging green.

    02:09 - We know of at least three reasons pools turn green.

    03:11 - We could safely rule out copper for this customer.

    03:43 - Jarred is a popular guy (phone rings).

    04:50 - The next day, the water was perfectly clear and blue, by increasing calcium relative to alkalinity.

    05:48 - We don't know why, but if you have too little calcium hardness relative to alkalinity, the water can turn green (but clear).

    06:18 - Dr. McNamara: Optimal ratio to inject CO2 is 4:1 (calcium to total alkalinity). If you're under 3:1, water can start to tinge green.

    10:43 - The white bucket test (add chlorine to green water and observe color change)

    18:08 - If you have algae taking over your pool, your algae is outpacing the killing rate of chlorine.

    19:12 - Control what you can control. CYA and chlorine, phosphate levels (indirect relationship, but important). What really matters is your free chlorine and CYA.

    24:00 - Wrapping up with two more topics: CO2 feeders and Potassium Monopersulfate. Both can fuel algae growth.

    27:21 - Summary: pool can turn green for three reasons: copper, calcium/alkalinity imbalance, algae.

    27:55 - Thank you for listening!

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    Pillar 4: Minimal Cyanuric Acid (CYA) | Orenda's Four Pillars May 26, 2021
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:19 - What is CYA and why do we use it?

    04:54 - Hot temperatures do NOT mean you need more CYA. Temp has nothing to do with sunlight protection and CYA. But chlorine does get used up faster because it works better.

    10:52 - You do not need a lower pH to have strong chlorine (%HOCl) when you have CYA in your water.

    12:00 - Percentages of HOCl without CYA are pH-dependent. With CYA, that no longer applies.

    15:57 - Overstabilization = too much CYA relative to Chlorine

    19:39 - Oversabilization is an accumulation problem, usually from stabilized chlorines Trichlor and Dichlor.

    19:59 - One pound of trichlor in 10,000 gallons of water adds 6-6.5 ppm of CYA. It adds up quickly.

    23:30 - How often should we be testing for CYA?

    26:36 - Enroll in Orenda Academy™ for more information

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    ______________________________

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    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Pillar 3: Phosphate Removal | Orenda's Four Pillars May 19, 2021
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:21 - Why do we need to remove phosphates? Do they really matter?

    03:59 - What do phosphate test kits actually measure?

    04:40 - What are phosphates? And what variations of phosphates are there?

    06:25 - Why are there phosphates in our drinking water?

    09:34 - Environment and bathers

    11:03 - Most metal sequestering agents are phosphate-based

    14:32 - Time your phosphate removal treatments appropriately

    15:59 - You don't need a lot of phosphate remover. Or you could just throw a lot more chlorine at the problem if you ignore them.

    16:18 - Growth/reproduction rate vs. killing rate of sanitizer(s)

    16:46 - Phosphates will be within algae's cell walls. You may test low, but phosphates are present if you see algae.

    19:09 - Thank you for listening!

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    ______________________________

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    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

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    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Pillar 2: Non-living Organics | Orenda's Four Pillars May 12, 2021
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:54 - Chlorine's responsibilities

    02:48 - More of an oxidant demand than a sanitizer demand

    03:02 - Three categories of oxidants: metals, nitrogen compounds, and non-living organics

    03:19 - What does oxidation mean?

    05:11 - Nitrogen compounds: ammonia and urea, and combined chlorine

    07:54 -The bulk of chlorine's responsibilities (over 90%) are non-living organics

    10:23 - Secondary oxidizer systems (ozone, AOP, and hyper-dissolved oxygen)

    11:21 - Our not-so-shameless plug: enzymes are used to supplement chlorine against non-living organics

    13:49 - Enzymes are not required, but beneficial, especially with larger bather loads

    14:26 - Wildfire smoke/ash puts organics, nitrogen and phosphates in your pool. That's a serious chlorine demand.

    16:48 - Thank you for listening!

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    ______________________________

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    Pool Brain®

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    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Pillar 1: LSI Balance | Orenda's Four Pillars May 05, 2021
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:32 - Origins of the Orenda App's LSI calculator

    02:47 - Traditional "RANGE CHEMISTRY" vs. the LSI

    04:31 - Why pools in different areas may need different chemistry parameters to satisfy the LSI

    05:03 - What is the Langelier Saturation Index (LSI), and its six factors?

    06:20 - What does the LSI actually tell us?

    08:00 - Calcium hardness is NOT the leading factor that causes scale

    16:18 - What does colder water temperature do?

    16:54 - You can have ideal range chemistry and still be out of LSI balance

    18:54 - Distinguishing between Carbonate Alkalinity and Total Alkalinity

    21:22 - The LSI reigns supreme, and LSI violations occur at a local level

    23:45 - The action step for Pillar 1: Keep LSI balanced year-round

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    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    4 Types of Chlorine | Trichlor and Dichlor Apr 15, 2021
    Show notes

    00:47 - Where's Jarred? Oh yeah, we lost that recording... oops.

    01:18 - "Stabilized" refers to two different things: sunlight protection for chlorine, and safer storage and handling.

    03:10 - What are the dangers of having too much Cyanuric Acid (CYA)?

    06:15 - Advantages of dichlor over trichlor?

    07:49 - How much CYA does trichlor put into the water? Answer: 6 to 6.5 ppm per pound, per 10,000 gallons of water. Two 3" tabs = one pound of Trichlor.

    09:23 - Do you even know how high your CYA is? If you're over 100 ppm, did you take the time to dilute the sample? And even if not, you should dilute your pool and lower your CYA regardless. It's already too high.

    10:46 - Trichlor lowers (or suppresses) pH, and lowers alkalinity gradually. You need higher alkalinity in your pool to account for this.

    12:25 - Never put trichlor in the skimmer!

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    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    4 Types of Chlorine | Calcium Hypochlorite Mar 10, 2021
    Show notes

    Of all types of chlorine, Calcium Hypochlorite (Cal Hypo) might be the strongest, but it is also the most volatile to handle. Even its fumes can rust just about anything in your garage or storage container. In this episode, Eric and Jarred discuss Cal Hypo and the strategies you may need to adopt to properly manage this powerful chemical. If you are having issues with cal hypo because of calcium drift up, high pH, or otherwise, our boys have your back. BE AWARE: Different types of chlorine are volatile if exposed to each other. They can cause fires and literally explode. Never store two different types of chlorine in the same enclosed area. Always handle with care and caution. ______________________________ Connect with us! Game Changing Pool Business Software: Pool Brain® Realize your full potential. Watershape University® Water chemistry questions? Orenda® Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show: ruleyourpool@gmail.com Facebook: @ruleyourpool YouTube: @rule-your-pool


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