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    Chemistry

    Rule Your Pool

    Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what’s really going on with your swimming pool chemistry, this might be the podcast for you. Each week, we’ll cover a new topic related to swimming pools, water chemistry, or indoor air quality. With our help, you’ll be able to rule your pool without over-treating it with chemicals and wasting money.

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    Pools Per Gallon | Chemical Efficiency Aug 10, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    02:18 - Housekeeping: WU class 3611 at the Int'l Show, and swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda.

    04:55 - The Orenda Philosophy

    07:38 - Algaecides (except chlorine) leave behind long-term byproducts that will eventually conflict with chlorine

    11:33 - Pools per gallon, starting with Orenda products

    11:56 - CV-600/700 pools per gallon

    15:45 - PR-10,000 pools per gallon

    18:27 - CE-Clarifier pools per gallon

    21:05 - SC-1000 pools per gallon

    22:06 - Acid pools per gallon

    24:47 - Changes to acid dosing in the 3.0 Orenda Calculator

    26:04 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

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    Pool Brain®

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    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Understanding Borates Aug 03, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Another long intro, reminding listeners about Swim Across America, and WU C3611 at the Int'l Pool & Spa show in Vegas this November.

    03:34 - Orenda is neither pro-borate, nor anti-borate. We don't find them necessary, but we don't criticize those who use them responsibly either.

    05:41 - Never exceed 50 ppm borate in your water, for toxicity reasons.

    07:46 - What are borates?

    08:49 - Bicarbonate/carbonate alkalinity and its pKa value of 6.14 pH.

    09:52 - Boric acid/Borate and its pKa value of 9.2 pH.

    11:22 - Borates buffer against the rise in pH by taking a hydroxyl ion (OH-). This is the opposite of what bicarbonate alkalinity does.

    13:05 - Borate algaestat claims

    13:52 - Borate water clarity claims

    14:40 - Borate toxicity and availabiliy in California

    15:40 - Use properly labeled products for their intended use

    17:15 - Why borates are in the Orenda App? They impact the LSI.

    18:10 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Can't hold chlorine for a week? Jul 27, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - An extra-long intro, complete with Jarred's new microphone and some housekeeping topics.

    06:39 - There's a difference between using chlorine and losing chlorine.

    09:01 - With CYA in the water, pH does not control chlorine strength, but at a high enough pH, OCl- breaks away from CYA and can be lost to sunlight.

    11:42 - Chlorine demand is both the sanitizer demand and oxidant demand. Let's start with the sanitizer demand.

    13:29 - Oxidant demand, starting with metals

    15:35 - Nitrogen compounds

    23:47 - Non-living organics

    28:38 - Are you being proactive?

    30:44 - Jarred's closing

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Why are LSI and chemical dosing results different in Orenda 3.0? Jul 20, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    00:44 - Orenda 3.0 features new, improved formulas. Most of the update was about improving the formulas.

    01:43 - The LSI reference chart is the basis for most LSI calculators.

    02:52 - The old Orenda app extrapolated within the LSI dosing chart to be more accurate.

    04:39 - The new Orenda calculator is more true to the Saturation Index, and that's why the LSI results will be slightly different than before. They are more precise now.

    05:53 - Dosing calculator formula upgrades

    07:20 - You can now select your preferred acid and chlorine types

    08:26 - Dry chemicals are by weight, liquids are by volume. This is because dry chemicals of the same volume can have different weights.

    09:40 - Use a graduated dry pool chemical scoop that shows you different lines for what one pound of each chemical is in volume.

    09:59 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    App Feedback and RIP Startup Barrel Platform Jul 18, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:53 - Our annual meeting made light of some costly mistakes

    02:13 - The two mistakes to explain are the premature Orenda 3.0 release and the Startup Barrel Platform

    03:24 - Without customer feedback, we could not have found the bugs as quickly as we have. Your feedback is incredibly valuable!

    07:13 - We are discontinuing the Startup Barrel Platform

    07:27 - Giving credit where credit is due: Lupe, Dave, Dave, Molinari Pools, and PurAqua

    10:16 - The platform became cost prohibitive, and even if we wanted to make more, we cannot reliably get the parts

    12:27 - Too much of the platform was out of our control, and it is officially discontinued

    12:57 - Summary. Thanks for listening, and thanks for your patience with Orenda and our mistakes.

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Orenda 3.0 | The new Orenda App Update Jul 13, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    02:14 - Our audience is becoming massive

    02:43 - We built this app as an investment in you. Paying it forward to help the industry and every pool owner

    06:01 - We make our money on selling chemicals, but this calculator is for everyone, whether you buy our chemicals or not

    06:36 - We insisted on this calculator being the most accurate pool calculator in the world

    08:28 - Borate is now included in the LSI calculator

    12:30 - New secondary readings

    15:28 - The Mac-daddy of features: future alkalinity

    17:29 - New toggles to select the type of chlorine(s) and acid you use

    19:54 - Three versions of the app: Android, iOS and now the web calculator.

    22:16 - The user survey when you first open the app is completely anonymous, and it helps us cater the app to our users.

    26:16 - Summary...and Jarred's attempted coup-de-tat. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    ask.orendatech.com | The Orenda Help Center Jul 06, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    00:36 - The URL is ask.orendatech.com

    01:55 - We get a ton of phone calls, and most of them are questions we get every week.

    02:35 - Don't see your question answered? Submit your question at the top of the web page.

    04:04 - Jarred asks a question we actually haven't yet answered, and shows how to submit a question.

    08:12 - The help center can be found from anywhere on our website, using a link in both the header menu and the footer of each page.

    08:29 - Summary - thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Different Types of Phosphates Jul 01, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:42 - Orthophosphates (PO4) are the building block of phosphate compounds

    03:58 - Inorganic phosphate types

    05:07 - If PR-10,000 clouds, you are watching it remove phosphates from water

    05:48 - Tests can be decieving, and inaccurate. And they only measure orthophosphates.

    07:52 - When PR-10,000 reduces less than expected, it removed phosphates that did not show up on your test kit

    08:54 - Try to avoid chemical conflicts

    10:21 - Phosphates in drinking water

    11:59 - Jarred gets to do the outro. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    CYA, Water Temperature, and Chlorine Loss Jun 22, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:03 - There's a difference between using chlorine and losing chlorine

    02:11 - Chlorinate and cross your fingers

    03:59 - Does warmer weather really mean you need more CYA to protect chlorine from more intense sunlight?

    08:49 - CYA's other impacts

    09:43 - High pH actually does increase chlorine loss, because OCl- dissociates from CYA in higher pH water

    12:07 - Jarred did not read all five bullet points in our extensive show notes

    13:53 - Low-energy Jarred summarizes for the fans

    14:32 - Summary - Thanks for listening! And check out our brand new Help Center: ask.orendatech.com

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Why Orenda's Advice sometimes Conflicts with Industry Standards, Textbooks and Pool Stores Jun 15, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:51 - Not all of our advice conflicts with industry standards and texbooks. We just don't believe in the dogma of range chemistry.

    02:56 - What is range chemistry?

    04:31 - Water never read the textbook. Just like Jarred.

    07:07 - Why are people more concerned with scale than etching?

    08:39 - Aggressive water looks good. Just like Jarred.

    16:08 - Being blind to the LSI is expensive, and it means you're going to fight your water to conform to ranges it doesn't want to conform to.

    19:09 - Chasing pH is not profitable, nor is it beneficial for the pool.

    21:07 - Be proactive and Rule Your Pool. Regardless of what the pool store's software says, because it's based on range chemistry. You can be focused on the LSI, which reigns supreme.

    23:22 - Jarred's summary: we teach this way because it helps you treat water the way water wants to be treated.

    23:50 - Eric's summary: Prescription without diagnosis is called malpractice. (Jarred's summary was better).

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


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