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    Chemistry

    Rule Your Pool

    Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what’s really going on with your swimming pool chemistry, this might be the podcast for you. Each week, we’ll cover a new topic related to swimming pools, water chemistry, or indoor air quality. With our help, you’ll be able to rule your pool without over-treating it with chemicals and wasting money.

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    Podcasting with the Pool Chasers Oct 19, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:21 - We met the Pool Chasers in their studio before COVID

    02:20 - Podcasts are catching on, but Pool Chasers were one of the first

    08:38 - Podcasting wasn't as accepted and understood 5 or 6 years ago. Now it's mainstream.

    11:51 - There should be more podcasts, because it's a great medium for sharing information

    16:10 - We don't talk about our products and that annoys Greg.

    24:03 - If you want to be treated differently, act differently

    27:20 - Podcasting is different from classes and trade show activities because it's not based on a finite window of time, and every week it can be new.

    29:48 - Tyler thinks its cool that Orenda listened to them and took them seriously about podcasting. Because most people don't.

    32:13 - We love hearing from our listeners on podcast@orendatech.com and ask.orendatech.com

    32:51 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

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    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Swimming Pool Recovery After a Hurricane Oct 12, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    03:08 - Let's start with pool damage, electrical and physical

    05:26 - Electrical Hazards

    06:31 - Contamination, physical and chemical

    07:48 - Biohazards

    09:20 - How to clean up a pool after a Hurricane

    11:59 - Chemistry and chlorination after circulation is up and running

    14:21 - Brief summary

    16:44 - Drinking water contamination

    17:42 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

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    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
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    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Winter is Coming...Again (feat. Miguel Chavez) Oct 05, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro - We're doing it LIVE

    01:54 - Orenda help line rings with people asking about winterization

    03:19 - The type of safety cover affects water chemistry

    05:20 - Winterization is like bear hibernation

    06:21 - Sanitizing and Balance: two separate things

    08:28 - Winterization kits miss the point

    11:38 - Even sitting next to each other looking at the same laptop, Jarred is still somehow not looking at the show notes

    14:24 - What is a winter watch program?

    15:32 - Spring openings

    19:54 - What are calcium crystals?

    22:04 - Winter dust

    23:22 - Swim Across America recap. Jarred survived...barely.

    30:13 - Introducing our spanish podcast hosted by Miguel, Controlando la Piscina

    30:56 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Here's to the Naysayers Sep 29, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro - Jarred is a Debbie Downer

    02:23 - Jarred printed the show notes for this episode

    03:17 - Criticism: Orenda downplays the importance of pH

    07:09 - Criticism: Orenda advocates for alkalinity below 80 ppm, but that will destroy a pool

    08:38 - Criticism: Orenda says 50 ppm CYA or less, but you can't hold chlorine for a week with such low levels

    09:54 - Criticism: Phosphates don't matter, and Orenda just says they do to sell more PR-10,000

    11:25 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup conflicts with other standard methods

    13:38 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup doesn't work

    14:40 - Criticism: Orenda's "education" is just propaganda for you to buy more products

    17:23 - Criticism: Orenda likes calcium hardness too high

    20:44 - Criticism: Orenda says calcium flakes from salt cells are calcium carbonate, but I was told they're calcium phosphate

    22:32 - Criticism: Orenda was anti-borate, but now they've flip-flopped and are pro-borate?

    24:17 - Criticism: The Rule Your Pool podcast is lame. (We agree with this one).

    25:07 - Criticism: The Orenda Calculator is inaccurate because it differs from other LSI calculators out there

    26:29 - Criticism: SC-1000 is no better than other sequestering agents, plus it wipes out chlorine

    28:19 - Criticism: Orenda is just another greedy chemical company

    30:39 - Criticism: Orenda makes stuff up and calls it "research"

    32:55 - Criticism: Orenda unfairly criticizes algaecides...they work so well

    34:04 - Criticism: Enzymes don't "digest" because they aren't living

    35:07 - Criticism: The LSI wasn't made for pools

    36:34 - Criticism: Orenda says pH cannot be controlled...but my pool has a pH controller on it

    39:49 - Closing. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Good Enough is the Enemy of Great Sep 21, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro...Jarred is the host this time

    01:12 - People call us for advice, and most of them are wanting "the easy button"

    04:54 - Old school thinking (good enough) prevents you from being great

    06:45 - What is your added value to the pool owner?

    11:04 - Traditional pool care

    16:04 - Relying on chlorine to do too much

    18:30 - Ways to add additional value

    20:20 - Do not be fearful of educating customers if you're adding additional value

    21:38 - Six bad habits to avoid

    23:56 - Four Pillars (action steps)

    27:16 - The Orenda Cult

    28:32 - Thank you for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    We Learned How to Plaster a Pool... Sep 14, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    01:34 - Tempool plaster school

    03:21 - We learned a LOT by physically plastering a pool

    06:23 - Plasterers are artisans. There's both an art and a science to this trade

    07:57 - We learned the entire process from waterproofing/prep, to plastering, to exposing

    12:57 - Water to cement ratio. The mixer matters!

    14:53 - The pro's at Tempool moved differently than us newbies

    16:17 - Finishing steps - butter/cream removal

    18:23 - Finishing steps - wet brushing/brooming, rinsing

    21:05 - Exposure types: acid wash, advanced acid wash w/bicarb rinse, and Pool Wash™

    22:50 - Passing the baton: shotcrete > prep crew > plaster crew > exposure crew > startup technician

    24:25 - Watershape University class C3611, Essential Plaster Workshop, Nov. 12-13, 2022.

    25:04 - Closing. Thanks for listening! We think we passed 50 listeners!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Three Water Tests that are 100% Reliable, but not Precise Sep 07, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Intro

    02:18 - Thermometers are reliable and accurate, but because they're not water tests, they're not included in our list of three tests in this episode.

    04:19 - No test kit stays accurate and precise forever. All of them need to be maintained, used properly, calibrated and reagents need to be taken care of (and not expired).

    05:13 - The White Bucket Test

    07:43 - Our first white bucket test...green water out of the hose on a startup

    10:23 - White bucket tests can be used to identify if there are metals in tap water too

    13:47 - Melamine clouds with Cyanuric Acid (CYA)

    15:20 - PR-10,000 clouds with phosphates of any kind (red cap test)

    17:55 - Ruling out variables helps you narrow in on the cause of the problem

    20:06 - Closing remarks. Thanks for listening!

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    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Plaster Finish Issues (w/ Bill Drakeley, Watershapes University) Aug 31, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Introduction with Bill Drakeley, Watershapes University

    01:47 - Cement cracks

    05:43 - Concrete issues cause plaster issues

    07:55 - What are "structural cracks"?

    08:48 - Calcium nodules

    12:46 - Concrete core samples

    15:45 - Lack of bonding / delamination

    17:21 - Bill pounds on his desk when talking about concrete

    21:13 - Start with the pool foundation when diagnosing plaster problems

    21:58 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

    ------------------------------------

    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Understanding Shotcrete (w/ Bill Drakeley, Watershapes University) Aug 24, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - Introduction to Bill Drakeley

    02:22 - Concrete 101: What happens when water mixes with dry cement?

    04:02 - Concrete mix design (water:cement ratio)

    05:18 - Compressive value (PSI)

    07:49 - ACI and ASA minimum for pool concrete is 4000 PSI.

    08:59 - How do you regulate PSI? Concrete mix design (water:cement ratio)

    11:41 - Quality control

    13:08 - Is waterproofing necessary when you have a proper, watertight concrete pool shell?

    16:39 - Rapid-fire definitions

    20:20 - Types of cracks

    21:56 - Hydrating vs. Curing

    29:15 - How to prep concrete before plaster

    32:27 - Watertight vs. waterproof

    33:42 - Summary: do your homework. Thanks for listening!

    ------------------------------------

    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


    Cyanuric Acid (CYA) and Chlorine Strength Aug 17, 2022
    Show notes

    00:00 - An extra-long intro, complete with Jarred's new microphone and some housekeeping topics.

    01:24 - Housekeeping: We're teaching with Watershapes University. WU C3611, November 12 and 13 in Las Vegas: Essential Plaster Workshop. And we're participating in Swim Across America, September 24 in Dallas. You can contribute to our team at swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda.

    03:38 - Check out the chlorine and CYA chart here: https://blog.orendatech.com/chlorine-ph-and-cya-relationships

    04:55 - When you introduce CYA into the water, pH no longer controls the strength of chlorine (%HOCl)!!

    08:23 - Chlorine strength is determined by the FC:CYA ratio. It's only a matter of time until health departments recognize this.

    10:58 - At a high enough pH, OCl- will break away from CYA and can be destroyed by sunlight. Focus on your pH ceiling to avoid this fate.

    13:50 - Simplifying the complex

    15:36 - The Orenda program takes these overlapping factors into account, so you do not need to understand all of the chemistry. We've taken things into consideration for you. Just follow the plan and the chemistry will behave.

    18:05 - Paradigm shifts are never comfortable

    18:42 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

    ------------------------------------

    Connect with Orenda Technologies

    Website: https://www.orendatech.com

    Help Center: https://ask.orendatech.com

    Blog: https://blog.orendatech.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologies

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/

    Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda

    ______________________________

    Connect with us!

    Game Changing Pool Business Software:

    Pool Brain®

    Realize your full potential.
    Watershape University®

    Water chemistry questions?
    Orenda®

    Questions? Comments? Or apply to sponsor the show:
    ruleyourpool@gmail.com

    Facebook: @ruleyourpool

    YouTube: @rule-your-pool


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