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    Robinson’s Podcast – Robinson Erhardt

    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, weightlifters, artists, and everyone in-between.

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    229 - Rashid Khalidi: October 7th Revisited | Israel, Palestine, Gaza, Hamas, & The Nakba Oct 13, 2024
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    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    Robinson’s Fashion Empire: http://bit.ly/3XBKqO2


    Some speakers, like Norman (https://youtu.be/vhFm62msNGc), are whip-smart and all I can do is ask a question before letting them take me along for the ride. Others are just as sharp, but the interview is an entirely different experience. I feel silly being this dramatic, so forgive me; it just seems that what follows is the proper extended metaphor to describe our conversation. Rashid crackles with energy when he talks, just as if he were a fighter. Even if he’s not using his fists, his cadence is like a boxer’s and I had to roll with the punches. This was another great one, and as usual I bear very little responsibility beyond sticking it out in the ring. I’m going to resist the urge to make any more boxing comments and instead finish with this: Thanks for listening.


    - Robinson


    P.S. In a number of recent episodes I’ve mentioned Maui Nui Venison, which is a company operating out of Hawaii that manages the invasive deer population of Maui that is decimating the landscape. Instead of culling the animals and disposing of their bodies, the meat is butchered and sold. It is the only meat I eat, full-stop, and the ethical reasons are sufficient for this, but it is also the best meat that I have ever eaten. I reached out to Maui Nui and told them that I support what they are doing and would like to be of any help that I can. They gave me this coupon code—ROBINSON—which you can use for 20% off. I am not being paid for this in any way. I believe in what they are doing and I want this model to succeed. People are going to be eating meat for the foreseeable future and I would be happier if it was not factory-farmed meat. So please check Maui Nui out and give them a try!

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    Rashid Khalidi is the Edward Said Professor Emeritus of Modern Arab Studies at Columbia University. He was editor of the Journal of Palestine Studies, President of the Middle East Studies Association, and an advisor to the Palestinian delegation to the Madrid and Washington Arab-Israeli peace negotiations from October 1992 until June 1993. In this episode, Rashid and Robinson discuss the history that culminated in October 7th, 2023, what has happened since then, and what might happen in the future. More particularly, they talk about Zionism, the Nakba, how Gaza was created, the war between Israel and Hamas, Egypt’s role in the crisis, the question of genocide, and the future of Palestine. Rashid’s most recent book is The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine (Metropolitan Books, 2021).


    The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine: https://a.co/d/7Mrwuz9


    The Neck and the Sword: https://shorturl.at/N7HRo


    A New Abyss (The Guardian Long Read): https://shorturl.at/oVn5j


    OUTLINE

    00:00 Introduction

    01:07 On His Palestinian Ancestors’ Battle Against Zionism

    04:04 Is the Israel-Hamas War an American War?

    06:04 How Far Back Must We Go to Understand October 7th?

    07:33 The Nakba Versus the Bible

    12:42 The Zionist Propaganda War

    15:40 Is the War Between Israel and Hamas Fought in the Media?

    18:52 Is All Zionist History Propaganda?

    22:12 How Did the Nakba Create Gaza?

    27:16 How Rashid’s Family Was Scattered by the Nakba

    28:45 Has Gaza Become a Concentration Camp?

    33:10 Did Hamas Cause the Apocalyptic Blockade on Gaza?

    38:04 Did the Election of Hamas Further Doom Gaza?

    40:21 Is Israel Committing Genocide in Gaza?

    45:17 Were the War Crimes of October 7th Justified?

    46:52 Can Israel’s War Crimes Against Gaza Be Justified?

    48:48 Can Israel Destroy Hamas?

    51:30 Is Egypt Responsible for the Gaza Crisis?

    53:30 Who Are the Biggest Players in the Israel-Hamas War?

    54:30 Is the Israel-Hamas War Just Beginning?

    01:00:07 How Soon Will Israel Conquer Gaza?

    01:05:19 Rashid’s Hope for the Future of Israel and Palestine


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University.


    228 - Norman Finkelstein: October 7th Revisited | Israel, Palestine, Hezbollah, & The End of Gaza Oct 06, 2024
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    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    Robinson’s Fashion Empire: http://bit.ly/3XBKqO2


    Norman Finkelstein received his PhD from the Princeton University Politics Department, and is best known for his research on Israel and Palestine. In this episode, Norman and Robinson sit down for a discussion centered around the anniversary of October 7th, and they speak about the immensity of what has happened in the Israel-Palestine region in the time before and since. Norman also appeared on episode 192, where he and Robinson discussed allegations of genocide and apartheid, Hamas and Hezbollah, and connections between the war and the Holocaust. Norman was also featured on episode 218, where he addressed the facts and fictions generated by the Israel-Hamas War. Norman’s most recent book is I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Get to It! Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic Freedom (Sublation Media, 2023).


    Norman’s Website: https://www.normanfinkelstein.com


    OUTLINE

    00:00:00 Introduction

    00:01:44 Why Norman Couldn’t Have Predicted October 7th

    00:04:45 Gaza’s Last Victim

    00:07:55 Is the Palestine Question Dead?

    00:11:13 What Hamas in Gaza and American Slave Rebellions Have in Common

    00:17:22 How the Nakba Created Gaza in 1948

    00:21:21 Is Gaza a Concentration Camp?

    00:25:20 High-Tech Israeli Killing Sprees in Gaza

    00:29:23 The Butcher of Beirut & The Sabra and Shatila Massacre

    00:31:20 On the First Intifada and the Silencing of Gaza

    00:37:11 On Hassan Nasrallah, Leader of Hezbollah

    00:41:59 How Israel Will Destroy Hezbollah

    00:42:35 Israel Vs The Party of God

    00:45:32 On the Courage of Dying for a Cause

    00:48:24 On His Time with Hezbollah and Nasrallah

    00:52:41 Noam Chomsky on Hezbollah’s Threat to Israel

    00:56:30 On Nasrallah’s Prophetic Speech Before His Assassination

    01:02:10 On Martin Luther King Jr’s Final Words

    01:04:35 On Nasrallah and the Assassination of Pro-Palestine Leaders

    01:07:08 The Parallel Between American Slaves and Gazan Palestinians

    01:12:37 Will the Gazans Be Emancipated like American Blacks from Slavery?

    01:19:16 Norman’s Big Question for Noam Chomsky

    01:21:26 The Question of Gaza as a Concentration Camp

    01:23:03 The Crushing Toll of the Holocaust on Norman

    01:32:08 On His Mother, Piers Morgan, and Gaza as a Holocaust

    01:34:14 On the Rise of Hamas

    01:38:49 On Hamas, Nasrallah, and the Sealed Fate of Gaza

    01:41:36 Does Israel Have the Right to Commit Genocide?

    01:45:48 Does Israel Intentionally Murder Innocent Civilians?

    01:50:10 Just How Brutal Are Israel’s High Tech Military Operations?

    01:54:09 On Gandhi’s Meditations in Jail

    01:56:07 Does Israel Go on Killing Sprees in Palestine?

    01:58:43 Are the Leaders of Hamas Rich Billionaires?

    02:04:43 Comparing Gaza and the Warsaw Ghetto

    02:09:33 The Absurdity of Gaza’s Economy

    02:15:11 What Was Hamas’s Intentions on October 7th?

    02:18:14 Did Hamas Commit Sexual Violence Against Israelis on October 7th?

    02:24:07 On Israel’s Violent Revenge Against Hamas

    02:26:50 Has Israel Restored Its Fearsome Reputation in the Middle East?

    02:30:34 Has Israel Exterminated Gaza?

    02:36:31 The Bottom Line on Israel and the Desolation of Gaza

    02:39:39 Will There Be a Ceasefire in Gaza?

    02:43:58 Why Does Israel Always Win?

    02:52:40 On Philosophy, Chattel Slavery, and Justice in Palestine

    02:58:02 On Justice and Norman Finkelstein’s Purpose in Life


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, historians, economists, and everyone in-between.


    227 - David Eagleman: Synesthesia, Brain Plasticity, AI, and Conspiracy Theories Sep 29, 2024
    Show notes

    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    Robinson’s Fashion Empire: http://bit.ly/3XBKqO2


    David Eagleman is a neuroscientist at Stanford University who works on synesthesia, brain plasticity, and sensory substitution, among other topics. He is also a bestselling author, the host of the Inner Cosmos podcast, and writer and presenter of the international PBS series The Brain with David Eagleman. In this episode, Robinson and David discuss brain plasticity and its optimization, the neuroscience of language-learning, consciousness and animal minds, synesthesia, sensory substitution, artificial intelligence, conspiracy theories, and more. David’s most recent book is Livewired: The Inside Story of the Ever-Changing Brain (Vintage, 2021).


    David’s Website: https://eagleman.com


    Livewired: https://a.co/d/67w3TQ3


    Inner Cosmos: https://eagleman.com/podcast/


    OUTLINE

    00:00:53 David’s Interest in the Mind

    00:02:52 Solving A Problem of Kant with Modern Neuroscience

    00:06:08 On Brain Plasticity and How to Maximize It

    00:15:23 Do Children Really Learn Languages Faster than Adults?

    00:19:46 Using Neuroscience to Maximize Weight Loss and Improve Diet Outcomes

    00:22:09 Was Helen Keller Conscious?

    00:24:14 Why Neuroscience Hasn’t Figured Out Consciousness

    00:28:32 What Really Is Synesthesia?

    00:36:44 On Animal Consciousness and Eating Meat

    00:42:56 What Is Intelligence?

    00:45:52 What Is the Intelligence Echo Illusion?

    00:52:02 Will ChatGPT Surpass Our Greatest Thinkers?

    00:55:50 Do We Need to Replace the Turing Test?

    01:05:57 Inner Cosmos

    01:09:16 Why Does the Brain Love Conspiracy Theories?

    01:11:33 Why Does the Brain Fall for Magic Tricks?

    01:13:14 Why Can’t We Tickle Ourselves?


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, historians, economists, and everyone in-between.


    226 - David Builes: The Metaphysics of Time and Consciousness Sep 22, 2024
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    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    David Builes is an Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Princeton University, where he works in metaphysics and epistemology and has made serious contributions to the philosophies of mind, science, and mathematics. In this episode, Robinson and David discuss the metaphysics of time—including debates about the reality of the past, present, and future—the question of whether science can explain consciousness, and whether numbers exist as abstract objects.


    David’s Website: https://davidbuiles.com


    OUTLINE

    00:00 Introduction

    01:05 David’s Interest in Philosophy

    05:47 On the Philosophy of Time

    16:01 In Defense of Presentism

    24:21 How Long is the Present?

    25:58 Humean and Non-Humean Laws

    28:02 Can Science Explain Consciousness?

    40:25 Does David Believe His Work?

    43:32 First-Person Realism

    53:18 Is First-Person Realism Correct?

    57:42 The Philosophy of Math

    01:01:45 Do Numbers Exist?


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, historians, economists, and everyone in-between.


    225 - Alexander Nehamas: Nietzsche, Eternal Recurrence, and the Will to Power Sep 14, 2024
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    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    Alexander Nehamas is the Edmund N. Carpenter II Class of 1943 Professor in the Humanities, both of philosophy and comparative literature, at Princeton University. He is best known for his work on ancient philosophy, literary theory, the philosophy of art, and his scholarship on Friedrich Nietzsche. In this episode, Robinson and Alexander primarily discuss the latter, though they also delve into some of his other work. More particularly, they discuss Nietzsche’s writings on eternal recurrence, the will to power, and morality, among other topics, as well as the perils of doing history as a philosopher, the infamous Elgin marbles, great works of literature, and personal style. Alexander’s most well-known work on Nietzsche is Nietzsche: Life as Literature (Harvard, 1987).


    Nietzsche: Life as Literature: https://a.co/d/7V3MYk0


    OUTLINE

    00:00 Introduction

    3:07 The Essentials of Nietzsche

    11:42 Nietzsche and Eternal Recurrence

    14:46 Nietzsche on Free Will

    19:06 Nietzsche on Art and the Ideal Life

    20:41 Nietzsche on Herd Morality and Mediocrity

    23:20 Nietzsche on the Will to Power

    27:02 Nietzsche on Our Dominance Over Animals

    30:41 Was Nietzsche an Anti-Semite?

    33:02 Nietzsche’s Relationship to Animals

    36:53 Was Nietzsche an Enemy of Morality?

    39:54 Nietzsche and the Worship of Greatness

    41:06 Favorite Literature

    48:39 Nietzsche and the Perils of the History of Philosophy

    1:05:43 The Elgin Marbles

    1:13:50 On Plato and Ancient Philosophy

    1:22:34 Nietzsche on Animal Agriculture

    1:29:10 Nietzsche on Seeing Life as a Literary Work

    1:34:10 Nietzsche on the Weak and the Great

    1:39:32 Philosophy and Life

    1:46:11 On Philosophy and Fashion


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, historians, economists, and everyone in-between.


    224 - Peter Woit: String Theory and the Crisis in Physics Sep 08, 2024
    Show notes

    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    Peter Woit is a senior lecturer in the Department of Mathematics at Columbia University, where he researches quantum field theory and quantum gravity. Peter is one of the most well-known critics of string theory, and in this episode he and Robinson discuss his work and research in the area, which is encapsulated in his book Not Even Wrong: The Failure of String Theory and the Search for Unity in Physical Law (Basic Books, 2007), as well as his website by the same name. More particularly, they talk about the standard model of particle physics, the problem of quantum gravity, the main figures in string theory, the arguments for and against this approach to physics, its many alleged failures, and the future of research in the area.


    Not Even Wrong (Book): https://a.co/d/iVnPEi1


    Not Even Wrong (Website): https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/


    OUTLINE

    00:00 Introduction

    02:29 Peter’s Training in Physics

    06:21 What Is the Standard Model of Physics?

    10:42 What Is Symmetry?

    21:37 Experiment and the Standard Model of Particle Physics

    26:15 What’s Wrong with the Standard Model of Particle Physics?

    29:36 What Are Grand Unified Theories in Physics?

    34:47 What Is Supersymmetry?

    40:15 On Ed Witten and the Genius Mind Behind M-Theory

    49:08 What Is String Theory?

    1:04:56 What Is M-Theory?

    1:07:59 On AdS/CFT

    1:16:03 On Holography and Quantum Gravity

    1:20:27 String Theory and the Sokal Hoax

    1:24:09 Peter’s Love of Physics

    1:32:13 On the String-Theoretic Landscape and the Multiverse

    1:41:51 What’s the Path Forward for Physics?

    1:47:52 Is String Theory the Only Game in Time?

    1:53:17 How Did String Theory Become Dominant?

    1:56:45 String Theory: Not Even Wrong?


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, historians, economists, and everyone in-between.


    223 - Michael Graziano: Consciousness, Animal Minds, and the Neuroscience of Suffering Sep 01, 2024
    Show notes

    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    Michael Graziano is Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Princeton University, where he and his lab research the brain basis of consciousness. This is Michael’s second appearance on Robinson’s Podcast. In episode #169, they discussed Michael’s Attention Schema Theory of consciousness, in which consciousness is a way in which the brain models attention to better organize and monitor itself. In this conversation, Robinson and Michael reexamine the Attention Schema Theory with an eye toward the problem of studying the consciousness not only of humans, but of other animals, and with particular regard to the moral questions surrounding animals’ roles in our lives. Michael’s most recent book is Rethinking Consciousness (W. W. Norton, 2019).


    Rethinking Consciousness: https://a.co/d/8euR1EL


    Graziano Lab: https://grazianolab.princeton.edu


    OUTLINE

    00:00 Introduction

    04:28 Michael’s Interest in Consciousness

    07:22 What Is Consciousness?

    16:03 Is there a Magical Essence to Consciousness?

    28:43 How Did Consciousness Evolve?

    35:29 Testing Michael’s Model of Consciousness

    44:55 What’s It Like to Be a Human?

    48:25 Is Human Suffering an Illusion?

    54:07 The Neuroscience of Pain and Suffering

    01:00:39 Is There Value to Human Life?

    01:10:42 Was Helen Keller Conscious?

    01:21:15 The Global Workspace Theory of Consciousness

    01:30:20 Do Animals Value Their Own Lives?

    01:41:23 Are Shrimp Conscious?

    01:52:23 Should Science Inform Morality?

    01:54:03 Can Chickens Suffer?

    01:57:12 Are Salmon Conscious?

    02:09:40 Are Octopuses Conscious?

    02:22:43 Are Poultry Conscious?

    02:29:43 Are Barnyard Animals Conscious?


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, historians, economists, and everyone in-between.


    222 - Richard Wolff: Israel, Ukraine, China, and the End of the American Empire Aug 25, 2024
    Show notes

    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    Richard Wolff is Professor Emeritus of Economics at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and a visiting professor at The New School, where he works on economics in the Marxist tradition. This is Richard’s fourth appearance on Robinson’s Podcast. In episode #127, he and Robinson discussed some of the most profound criticisms of capitalism; in #154, they focused on the myths surrounding Marxism and Marx himself; and in #190 they covered the Israel-Palestine conflict from a Marxist perspective. In this wide-ranging episode, Richard and Robinson talk about the end of the American empire. More particularly they discuss the wars in Russia, Ukraine, Israel, and Palestine, the rivalry between China and the United States, the global interplay between capitalism and socialism, the distinction between socialism and communism, the conflict between the BRICS and G7 nations, and more. Richard’s latest book is Understanding Capitalism (Democracy at Work, 2024).


    Understanding Capitalism (Book): https://www.democracyatwork.info/understanding_capitalism


    Class Theory and History (Book): https://a.co/d/ht4trZN


    Understanding the 2024 Elections (Article): https://asiatimes.com/2024/08/capitalism-mass-anger-and-2024-elections/


    Richard’s Website: https://www.rdwolff.com


    Economic Update: https://www.democracyatwork.info/economicupdate


    OUTLINE

    03:10 On the Trauma of His Family Background

    10:50 Academia’s War on Marxism

    22:45 Economics as the Secret Undercurrent of History

    28:01 Will Ukraine Defeat Russia?

    31:52 Is China the Empire of the New World?

    39:04 The Best American Strategy Against China

    45:24 How Trump Won and Lost America

    56:22 Is Israel a Colonialist State?

    01:03:23 On the Expulsion of the Palestinians from Israel

    01:10:49 Israel as America’s Economic Baby

    01:18:08 Global Capitalism as the Enemy of the Islamic World

    01:23:00 Why You Should Distrust Wartime Propaganda

    01:33:03 Zelensky and the Ukrainian Chess Match

    01:42:53 The Economic Conspiracy Behind the American Pick-Up Truck

    01:49:31 Israel, Ukraine, and the New Cold War

    01:54:20 The Many Taboos of Socialism and Communism

    01:58:54 The War Between Socialism and Capitalism

    02:07:51 Is Socialism More Efficient than Capitalism?

    02:16:58 World War I and the Rise of Socialism

    02:22:58 The Failed American Attempt to Destroy Russian Communism

    02:27:26 Why Did Russia Choose Communism over Socialism?

    02:38:06 Communism, Socialism, and the War for the Workplace

    02:43:00 Is China Secretly Capitalist?

    02:53:18 America’s Choice Between Equality or Subservience to China

    02:58:45 Europe’s Hidden Economic Apocalypse


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, historians, economists, and everyone in-between.


    221 - David Albert: The Measurement Problem of Quantum Mechanics Aug 18, 2024
    Show notes

    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    David Albert is the Frederick E. Woodbridge Professor of Philosophy at Columbia University, director of the Philosophical Foundations of Physics program at Columbia, and a faculty member of the John Bell Institute for the Foundations of Physics. This is David’s eighth appearance on Robinson’s Podcast. He last appeared on episode 210 with Tim Maudlin, which was a more advanced episode on Niels Bohr and the foundations of quantum mechanics. In this episode, David gives a pedagogical and introductory overview of the measurement problem, which is the issue at the core of many discussions about the foundations of quantum mechanics. David’s most recent book is A Guess at the Riddle (2023). If you’re interested in the foundations of physics, then please check out the JBI, which is devoted to providing a home for research and education in this important area. Any donations are immensely helpful at this early stage in the institute’s life.


    Note: Unfortunately, the cameras turned off in the middle of the episode. For twenty minutes there is no video, and for most of the episode only the camera focusing on David is recording.


    A Guess at the Riddle: https://a.co/d/6qcsidl


    The John Bell Institute: https://www.johnbellinstitute.org


    OUTLINE

    00:00 Introduction

    04:54 On Philosophy and the Foundations of Physics

    15:35 The Bizarreness of the Quantum World

    19:16 What Is the World of Classical Physics?

    24:00 How Quantum Mechanics Destroyed the Classical World

    29:19 What Is Quantum Mechanical Superposition?

    32:18 How Quantum Mechanics Became the Theory of Reality

    39:53 What Is the Measurement Problem of Quantum Mechanics?

    51:05 Niels Bohr and the Foundations of Quantum Mechanics

    01:01:14 Niels Bohr and the EPR Paper

    01:08:45 Was Niels Bohr the Most Charming Physicist of All Time?

    01:15:59 Is the Measurement Problem a Scientific Problem?

    01:21:24 Is String Theory Pseudoscience?

    01:31:03 Why Don’t Many Philosophers Work on String Theory?

    01:34:08 The Wave Function and the Measurement Problem

    01:37:57 Quantum Measurement and Wave Function Collapse

    01:41:34 Hidden Variable Theories of Quantum Mechanics

    01:44:54 Quantum Mechanics and the Multiverse

    01:48:47 Solving the Measurement Problem with Experiment

    01:56:41 Quantum Mechanics and the Scientific Project


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, historians, economists, and everyone in-between.


    220 - Michael Hudson: Debt, Economic Collapse, and the End of Civilization Aug 11, 2024
    Show notes

    Patreon: https://bit.ly/3v8OhY7


    Michael Hudson is Distinguished Research Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri, Kansas City and President of the Institute for the Study of Long-Term Economic Trends. He researches domestic and international finance, the history of economics, and the role of debt in shaping class stratification, among many other topics. This is Michael’s third appearance on the show. He was also a guest on episode 180, where he and Robinson discussed neoliberalism, industrial capitalism, and the rentier economy, and on episode 198, where they discussed Marxism, economic parasites, and contemporary debt cancellation. In this episode, Michael and Robinson talk about the history of debt cancellation in the ancient world—including Babylon, Greece, and Rome—how they helped to stave off economic collapse, how the failure to implement them contributed to the demise of these civilizations, and how they might be used in today’s economies. Michael’s most recent book is Temples of Enterprise (ISLET, 2024). This episode was recorded at Austin’s Ale House in Kew Gardens, Queens, New York, and comes highly recommended.


    Michael’s Website: https://michael-hudson.com


    Temples of Enterprise: https://a.co/d/a3c53dm


    Austin’s Ale House: https://www.austinsteakandalehouse.com/


    OUTLINE

    00:00 Introduction

    03:08 Michael’s Interest in Debt

    08:23 Why Countries Can’t Pay Their Debts

    12:14 Debt Cancellations in the Ancient World

    16:51 Can Society Survive Forgiving Everyone’s Debts?

    21:30 The Brilliance of Bronze Age Economics

    29:19 What Happened When Ancient Harvests Failed?

    32:04 The Timeless War of Creditors Against Debtors

    37:49 Why States Should Print Their Own Money

    41:11 How the Catholic Church Created the Modern State

    55:50 On the Origin of Money

    01:01:28 On the Economics of Ancient Babylon

    01:07:17 Were Ancient Economists Better than Today’s?

    01:09:09 The Most Important Prices of an Economy

    01:11:39 Uncovering the Collapse of Babylon

    01:22:30 Debt and the End of Civilization

    01:24:58 Are Ancient Economics the Key to the Future?

    01:30:33 Should the Government Forgive Student Loan Debt?


    Robinson’s Website: http://robinsonerhardt.com


    Robinson Erhardt researches symbolic logic and the foundations of mathematics at Stanford University. Join him in conversations with philosophers, scientists, historians, economists, and everyone in-between.


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