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Welcome to the RiskReversal Pod, where Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by the most brilliant minds in markets and tech.

We break down the most important market moving headlines to help listeners make better informed investing decisions.

Our goal is to deconstruct Wall Street speak and offer contrarian insights and strategies that help investors navigate increasingly volatile markets.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it’s advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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Blue Sweep, Red Screens: The Midterms Hit the AI Trade with Liz Thomas + Bill Capuzzi, CEO of Apex Fintech Solutions Nov 09, 2026

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Apex Fintech Solutions provides the tools and services that enable hundreds of clients to launch, scale, and support digital investing for tens of millions of end investors. The company provides essential infrastructure and a comprehensive ecosystem of cloud-based products to enable and streamline trading, wealth management, cost basis, tax reporting, and, through its subsidiary Apex Clearing™, custody and clearing.

LEARN MORE: https://apexfintechsolutions.com/?utm_source=Risk+Reversal&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_campaign=701PJ00000fnXhaYAE

Learn more about Astraeus Wealth Management: ⁠http://astraeuswealth.com/partner-with-us⁠

Guy Adami and Liz Thomas discuss a sharp market selloff led by semiconductors and the AI/data-center trade, noting semis peaked mid-June, the NASDAQ entering correction territory, and that large one-day drops are historically periodic. They review Thomas’s tactical bond call as 10-year yields fall from about 5.25% to around 4.87%, debate how strong jobs data, incomplete CPI year-over-year comparisons due to last year’s shutdown, and tightening financial conditions could influence a potential December Fed hike, and touch on rotations into healthcare (XLV rally then profit-taking), consumer risks, and uncertainty in energy and refiners. In Austin at Apex’s Innovation Summit, Dan Nathan and Guy interview Apex Fintech Solutions CEO Bill Capuzzi on fintech/wealth convergence, custody and risk management, Apex’s real-time ledger and Ascend OS, skepticism about near-term tokenizing public stocks versus utility in private securities, prediction markets (sports vs elections and hedging use cases), and maintaining culture while scaling.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.
Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.
Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

This Week Flipped The AI Trade On Its Head + PEAK6's Jenny Just & Matt Hulsizer Nov 06, 2026

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This episode is sponsored by Fidelity Investments and the all-new Fidelity Trader+ platform.

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Fidelity Investments and Risk Reversal are not affiliated. Views, opinions, products, services, and strategies discussed are not endorsed or promoted by Fidelity Investments. Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC, Member NYSE, SIPC.

Apex Fintech Solutions provides the tools and services that enable hundreds of clients to launch, scale, and support digital investing for tens of millions of end investors. The company provides essential infrastructure and a comprehensive ecosystem of cloud-based products to enable and streamline trading, wealth management, cost basis, tax reporting, and, through its subsidiary Apex Clearing™, custody and clearing.

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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami recap the Apex Innovation Summit in Austin ahead of an interview with Peak6/Apex founders Jenny Just and Matt Hulsizer. They discuss midterm-election market reactions, a sharp two-day rotation and selloff led by AI-centric stocks and semiconductors (including major declines in Nvidia and the SOXX/SMH), widening stress in “neocloud” names like CoreWeave, and high volatility spilling into banks and private-credit-related financials. They review an October jobs report print of 165,000 versus an estimate near 70,000, its impact on yields, and how the Fed’s inflation fight could be complicated by an AI-trade slowdown. In the interview, Just and Hulsizer cover innovation such as prediction markets, 24/7 trading, fractional options, liquidity provision, investing in founders and culture, “Poker Power” and risk-taking, and Apex’s stock-rewards loyalty programs.

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Trump’s Trouncing Gives Warsh Room for Maneuver on Rates (Bloomberg)

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Dan Ives: How to Survive AI’s Volatile "Air Pockets" Nov 03, 2026

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Dan Nathan hosts Dan Ives to discuss a sharp Nasdaq and semiconductor selloff, shifting AI leadership, and how investors should navigate violent drawdowns. Ives explains his move from Wedbush to the new Yorkville Ives “modern merchant bank,” continued involvement with the Ives ETF, and the launch of a $200 million IPO vehicle investing in private AI companies. They debate AI as an 8–12 year buildout versus dot-com, emphasizing the gap between massive CapEx and monetization, energy constraints, and leverage risks at firms like Oracle and neo-clouds. The conversation contrasts Microsoft’s enterprise-driven AI upside with Alphabet’s ad/search cannibalization fears, highlights stock-picking across chips, hyperscalers, software, and cybersecurity, and examines bear arguments on GPU depreciation, token economics, and political risks from potential data-center restrictions after midterms.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

If Big Tech Is Selling Stock and Debt, Why Are You Buying? Nov 02, 2026

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In a solo Monday edition of the RiskReversal Podcast, Dan Nathan recaps a volatile week marked by major tech earnings, a Fed decision and press conference, rising yields, and looming catalysts including the election and the October jobs report. He notes the S&P’s tight consolidation despite sharp moves in mega-cap tech, with weakness in Alphabet, Meta and Amazon contrasted with relative strength in Microsoft, and highlights a dramatic Intel plunge on weak guidance as a warning about AI-trade narratives, heavy CapEx and negative cash flow. He questions enthusiasm for massive AI-related IPOs amid widespread debt and capital raising by large tech firms, flags stress in “neo-clouds” and software (including ServiceNow), and previews key upcoming reports from Apple, Palantir, AMD and others while discussing oil, volatility and market positioning.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Finding The Best Stocks In The Market with Josh Brown Oct 30, 2026

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Josh Brown, CEO of Ritholtz Wealth Management and co-host of The Compound and Friends, joins Dan Nathan for a wide-ranging conversation recorded on a volatile morning for AI stocks. They dig into why Josh calls this “the age of AI” rather than a trade. They also cover why he thinks the long-term winners will have to own their compute end to end, and whether Anthropic’s upcoming IPO can draw real retail demand at a $1.5–2 trillion valuation.

Josh also explains his framework for finding the best stocks in the market: start with the stocks that are already going up. He covers how Ritholtz uses custom indexing and 130/30 strategies to harvest tax losses. And he makes the case that Elon Musk may have built the last trillion-dollar company that everyday investors got to ride from the start.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Why The AI Bubble Isn’t Dot-Com 2.0 with David Steinberg, Zeta Global Founder & CEO Oct 28, 2026

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Dan Nathan hosts David Steinberg, CEO and founder of Zeta Global, for a wide-ranging conversation recorded after Zeta Live in New York, where Steinberg says the event drove $10 of business for every dollar spent last year and expects 12–14x this year. Steinberg explains Zeta’s 2017 decision to re-architect its platform with proprietary data and AI native to the application layer, a bet he says paid off after ChatGPT made AI a boardroom priority; he cites growth from $283M trailing revenue at the 2021 IPO to about $1.8B this year and strong ROI metrics for clients. He describes intent-driven marketing built on a large opted-in data cloud, expansion into Dynamic Enterprise Intelligence, and the launch of Athena evolving into Athena OS for enterprise-wide use cases. They discuss announcements including making Athena headless and integrated with major models, a custom chip strategy, recent acquisitions like SensorAI for agentic commerce, and a partnership with Palantir Foundry tied to speed, ontology, data sovereignty, and Zeta Gov/FedRAMP. The conversation also covers public-market repricing, valuation multiples, key SaaS KPIs, and the outlook for frontier vs open models and an emerging agentic internet.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

AI’s Credit Problem Is Here: Meta, CoreWeave & SpaceX CDS Spike Oct 26, 2026

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Learn more about Astraeus Wealth Management: ⁠http://astraeuswealth.com/partner-with-us⁠

Dan Nathan and Guy Adami “bookmark” a pivotal week heading into major tech earnings, a Fed meeting, and the midterms, noting the S&P’s resilience near highs despite sharp damage in former leaders like semis and select tech. They argue money isn’t leaving equities but rotating into defensives such as staples, utilities, healthcare, defense, software, and especially cybersecurity (Palo Alto, CrowdStrike, Zscaler), while discussing how 10-year yields around 5% and shifting bond-market dynamics affect rate-sensitive stocks and tech financing. They focus on AI-driven CapEx, negative free cash flow at Meta, dilution via a new share class, and rising CDS levels (including CoreWeave and Meta) as potential warning signs. They also cover weakening AI sentiment via chip-equipment weakness, questions around Anthropic/OpenAI IPO readiness amid decelerating growth, crude oil strength tied to geopolitics, and puzzling gold weakness despite the macro backdrop.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Cameron Dawson: Americans Have Never Been This All-In on Stocks Oct 23, 2026

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Apex Fintech Solutions provides the tools and services that enable hundreds of clients to launch, scale, and support digital investing for tens of millions of end investors. The company provides essential infrastructure and a comprehensive ecosystem of cloud-based products to enable and streamline trading, wealth management, cost basis, tax reporting, and, through its subsidiary Apex Clearing™, custody and clearing.

LEARN MORE: https://apexfintechsolutions.com/?utm_source=Risk+Reversal&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_campaign=701PJ00000fnXhaYAE

Guy Adami interviews Cameron Dawson of NewEdge Wealth about growing scrutiny of the AI trade, arguing hyperscalers’ AI CapEx is diluting legacy high ROIC businesses and that “neo cloud” returns may not clear a higher cost of capital, potentially pressuring ROIC further. They discuss why markets are reacting now, tying it to both AI revenue-growth deceleration and a broader shift in risk appetite as higher rates drive rotations into defensives (utilities, staples, insurance) and away from cyclicals like banks. Dawson breaks down bank cyclicality across lending, investment banking, and trading, noting weak IPO/issuance signals despite still-healthy loan fundamentals. They debate whether falling yields reflect attractive rates or AI fundamentals, implications for earnings revisions and wealth effects in an “over-equitized” household sector, rising CCC spreads and private-credit concerns, subdued gold after a blow-off top, and Dawson’s view that higher rates are here to stay.

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(Golden) Eye of the Bondholder (NewEdge)

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

The Real AI Threat Is Two Dudes and a GPU with Damien Lewke, CEO & Founder of Nebulock Oct 21, 2026

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Dan Nathan hosts Damien Lewke, CEO and founder of AI-native cybersecurity company Nebulock. Lewke recounts his career from nation-state defense at Northrop Grumman to CrowdStrike, Palo Alto Networks, MIT research in NLP, and leading AI detections at Arctic Wolf. They discuss how the threat surface has expanded with distributed environments and how the ChatGPT moment accelerated both defensive usability and offensive capability. Lewke explains Nebulock’s “hunt-first” mission to give any team machine-speed detection and response, positioning it across converging markets like SIEM, MDR, AI SOC, and insider threat/UEBA. The conversation covers enterprise AI adoption, supply-chain risk, investor perceptions following “Mythos” breach disclosures and agent security as insider risk.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.
Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Nothing Matters in the Market Until It Does with Mike Tracey Oct 19, 2026

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Learn more about Astraeus Wealth Management: ⁠http://astraeuswealth.com/partner-with-us⁠

Guy Adami welcomes Mike Tracey, Vice President of Risk at Apex Fintech Solutions, to discuss how credit and debt markets are increasingly driving equity action, with bond volatility and elevated yields pressuring the AI CapEx trade now funded more by debt. They examine revenue-whisper risk around OpenAI and Anthropic and describe Oracle as a tracking stock for OpenAI expectations, given its dependence on data-center buildouts. Despite the S&P 500 near highs and a VIX around 16, they argue dispersion and rotation are masking risk and that investors should watch more targeted measures like VXN and SMH volatility. The conversation highlights cybersecurity as a major “unknown unknown,” the fragility of hyperscaler CapEx “sanctity,” gold’s appeal amid persistent deficits, uninspiring Bitcoin flows, risks from short-vol positioning, and potential market impacts from midterm-election surprises and Middle East escalation feeding into inflation, yields, and corporate debt.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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